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	<description>On the Artistry and Inspiration of David Archuleta</description>
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		<title>By: marym</title>
		<link>http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2008/09/here-it-is-crush-music-video/#comment-4458</link>
		<dc:creator>marym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a sweet little video.  Kudos to David and the independent company that put created it.

 After scanning some of the comments, it seems that the video is a Rorchach.  My take on the lake scene is that David looks at the other guy approaching the girl that David is captivated with, and he sees the other guy as everything he is not - confident and able to easily engage this girl.  I saw a world of emotion in David&#039;s look as he turned away with that sick, falling feeling in the gut, the chill in the heart of the shy, sensitive introvert who doesn&#039;t know how to approach what he most wants.

It struck me that David knows that experience in his core and has been there at least once.   I suppose I&#039;m just reading myself into it.  Yes, a Rorchach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a sweet little video.  Kudos to David and the independent company that put created it.</p>
<p> After scanning some of the comments, it seems that the video is a Rorchach.  My take on the lake scene is that David looks at the other guy approaching the girl that David is captivated with, and he sees the other guy as everything he is not -- confident and able to easily engage this girl.  I saw a world of emotion in David&#8217;s look as he turned away with that sick, falling feeling in the gut, the chill in the heart of the shy, sensitive introvert who doesn&#8217;t know how to approach what he most wants.</p>
<p>It struck me that David knows that experience in his core and has been there at least once.   I suppose I&#8217;m just reading myself into it.  Yes, a Rorchach.</p>
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		<title>By: kindredspirit</title>
		<link>http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2008/09/here-it-is-crush-music-video/#comment-4457</link>
		<dc:creator>kindredspirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 193, Rena

Sounds like you were offended by my reference to David wearing Peace T-Shirts.  (not sure why)

I&#039;d like to think that David is encouraging the following: (dictionary.com definition #3)
&quot;a state of mutual harmony between people or groups, esp. in personal relations: Try to live in peace with your neighbors.&quot;

But, that&#039;s just me.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 193, Rena</p>
<p>Sounds like you were offended by my reference to David wearing Peace T-Shirts.  (not sure why)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that David is encouraging the following: (dictionary.com definition #3)<br />
&#8220;a state of mutual harmony between people or groups, esp. in personal relations: Try to live in peace with your neighbors.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Abrra</title>
		<link>http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2008/09/here-it-is-crush-music-video/#comment-4456</link>
		<dc:creator>Abrra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job David! here is a link for the HQ Crush

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fdanf7

Still reading the posts, but i wanted to help out any who need this. It&#039;s huge 31MB  but  worth the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job David! here is a link for the HQ Crush</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sendspace.com/file/fdanf7" rel="nofollow">http://www.sendspace.com/file/fdanf7</a></p>
<p>Still reading the posts, but i wanted to help out any who need this. It&#8217;s huge 31MB  but  worth the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: hello gorgeous</title>
		<link>http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2008/09/here-it-is-crush-music-video/#comment-4455</link>
		<dc:creator>hello gorgeous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, jazzy19001.  In fact, we&#039;re probably one of the most respectful sites and even a &quot;safe space&quot; or &quot;comfort zone&quot; in which we can actually discuss these issues without fearing a lot of vitriol in response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, jazzy19001.  In fact, we&#8217;re probably one of the most respectful sites and even a &#8220;safe space&#8221; or &#8220;comfort zone&#8221; in which we can actually discuss these issues without fearing a lot of vitriol in response.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzy19001</title>
		<link>http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2008/09/here-it-is-crush-music-video/#comment-4454</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzy19001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me this discussion has not been about David.  It has been about a video that was not created by him, just one that he acted and sang in.  It is not his creation, it is not him.  David did a good job acting in the video, and it is easy to blur the lines between him and this character that he played, but we have to remember he did not create the story and he never met these &quot;friends&quot; before that day.  It is just an interpretation of a song by a talented and insightful director.   It involves universal themes about coming of age and navigating the changes that life brings as we move from adolescence to adulthood.  It is  universal story, with universal themes and no reflection of him personally.   But I think that it is interesting to discuss popular culture and art and society and learn something from others points of view, and enjoy this interesting video that has enhanced David&#039;s wonderful music.    I understand some of this discussion may have been PG, but it certainly has not been NC-17.  There has been nothing discussed here that you could not hear in any college in America.  I believe the discussion, though frank has been in good taste and respectful.  I think David has taken us to a new level, and nothing has been &quot;ruined&quot;, just the opposite, in fact,  it has become deeper and more meaningful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me this discussion has not been about David.  It has been about a video that was not created by him, just one that he acted and sang in.  It is not his creation, it is not him.  David did a good job acting in the video, and it is easy to blur the lines between him and this character that he played, but we have to remember he did not create the story and he never met these &#8220;friends&#8221; before that day.  It is just an interpretation of a song by a talented and insightful director.   It involves universal themes about coming of age and navigating the changes that life brings as we move from adolescence to adulthood.  It is  universal story, with universal themes and no reflection of him personally.   But I think that it is interesting to discuss popular culture and art and society and learn something from others points of view, and enjoy this interesting video that has enhanced David&#8217;s wonderful music.    I understand some of this discussion may have been PG, but it certainly has not been NC-17.  There has been nothing discussed here that you could not hear in any college in America.  I believe the discussion, though frank has been in good taste and respectful.  I think David has taken us to a new level, and nothing has been &#8220;ruined&#8221;, just the opposite, in fact,  it has become deeper and more meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: gracefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>gracefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that the upcoming post after this one confines the discussion to areas of his life that David has shared with us.  When we speculate about him, project onto him, or think for him we are moving out of our own roles as listeners and supporters.  I hate to see us ruin a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that the upcoming post after this one confines the discussion to areas of his life that David has shared with us.  When we speculate about him, project onto him, or think for him we are moving out of our own roles as listeners and supporters.  I hate to see us ruin a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: hello gorgeous</title>
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		<dc:creator>hello gorgeous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha! Don&#039;t you just love how the &quot;gay subtext&quot; is so &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; there that enough people bring it up, discuss it at length, then conclude that, &lt;i&gt;nah, we didn&#039;t really see that at all!&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s the nature of subtext, after all. Kind of like a ghost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha! Don&#8217;t you just love how the &#8220;gay subtext&#8221; is so <i>not</i> there that enough people bring it up, discuss it at length, then conclude that, <i>nah, we didn&#8217;t really see that at all!</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the nature of subtext, after all. Kind of like a ghost.</p>
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		<title>By: hello gorgeous</title>
		<link>http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2008/09/here-it-is-crush-music-video/#comment-4451</link>
		<dc:creator>hello gorgeous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, jazzy19001, that&#039;s an interesting take on the video.  Now, you&#039;ve got me feeling bad for David! :(

Poor guy, all alone, not feeling invited to &quot;play any of their reindeer games&quot; and all that.

But, yes, his music gains him social entrance.  I did like that aspect of the video: the way David&#039;s musicality is the highlight. Still loving the piano on the deck scene. Rather surreal, even though it&#039;s not high art or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, jazzy19001, that&#8217;s an interesting take on the video.  Now, you&#8217;ve got me feeling bad for David! <img src='http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Poor guy, all alone, not feeling invited to &#8220;play any of their reindeer games&#8221; and all that.</p>
<p>But, yes, his music gains him social entrance.  I did like that aspect of the video: the way David&#8217;s musicality is the highlight. Still loving the piano on the deck scene. Rather surreal, even though it&#8217;s not high art or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: rascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>rascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jazzy19001 -- no, I was simply making the argument that just because something might be made quickly doesn&#039;t dismiss it&#039;s &lt;I&gt;potential&lt;/I&gt; to be art (previous comments suggested that multiple interpretations were folly because no one could have spent enough time on this to execute on such complexity -- my argument is that complexity can emerge whether it was intended or not; and, finally, complexity doesn&#039;t equal Art, either).

One thing I will also add is that most of the discussion on the gay blogs concludes that there is no gay subtext here at all. I happen agree with this, even if I also think that some inherent ambiguity--intended or not--is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jazzy19001 &#8212; no, I was simply making the argument that just because something might be made quickly doesn&#8217;t dismiss it&#8217;s <i>potential</i> to be art (previous comments suggested that multiple interpretations were folly because no one could have spent enough time on this to execute on such complexity &#8212; my argument is that complexity can emerge whether it was intended or not; and, finally, complexity doesn&#8217;t equal Art, either).</p>
<p>One thing I will also add is that most of the discussion on the gay blogs concludes that there is no gay subtext here at all. I happen agree with this, even if I also think that some inherent ambiguity--intended or not--is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzy19001</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzy19001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey gorgeous - I am agreeing with you about the existence of a gay subtext, it obviously exists if so many gay people are talking about it.  I guess I just don&#039;t find it that shocking or revealing in and of itself.  Additionally, other subtext can exist at the same time, that have deeper impact.  These themes are not mutually  exclusive.

I read the swimming scene in other ways as well.  David&#039;s character turns away from the scene of the the group cavorting and having fun.  He is left out of the overt sexuality in a way, not just of the flirty play with Hagood herself, but of sexual play and experimentation in general.  The longing look before he turns away, to me, is more of wistfulness, rather than lust,  that he cannot participate in that forum.  Then there is a close up of him with the group in the background, and it becomes even more clear how alone in his feelings he is at that moment.  To me this is the subtext that adds so much depth to the video.  It is about being lonely and vulnerable, and wanting to participate, but being excluded.  About lack of confidence, and needing to find your own authenticate way of navigating  this time in a young person&#039;s life.  And how does the David character do it, through music ofcourse.

I find less overt sexual messages in the post-it game rather interesting.  I find it rather interesting that his note said &quot;Brad Pitt&quot; when much has been made of Brad&#039;s sexuality in private, but in movies, his persona his is overtly heterosexual.  It is also interesting that he is in a relationship with a woman who is reported to be bi-sexual.  Does this post-it reveal anything about the characters desires and wishes to be strong and macho, and overtly sexual, or is it something else?

rascal, you are kind of contradicting yourself a little.  You acknowledge that there is a subtlety and nuance and rich symbols of human experience that trumps alot of High Art pieces in the video, but then you dismiss it as not being art because it is commercial design.

I mean we could debate what is art and I could go into the history of art and say that all art has a commercial driving force, but I think that we really do agree.  There is alot of completely commercial videos in the world that fall short of being art, but I think that we might be able to agree that the Crush video with it&#039;s complex themes and depth would qualify as &quot;Art&quot; despite it&#039;s origins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey gorgeous -- I am agreeing with you about the existence of a gay subtext, it obviously exists if so many gay people are talking about it.  I guess I just don&#8217;t find it that shocking or revealing in and of itself.  Additionally, other subtext can exist at the same time, that have deeper impact.  These themes are not mutually  exclusive.</p>
<p>I read the swimming scene in other ways as well.  David&#8217;s character turns away from the scene of the the group cavorting and having fun.  He is left out of the overt sexuality in a way, not just of the flirty play with Hagood herself, but of sexual play and experimentation in general.  The longing look before he turns away, to me, is more of wistfulness, rather than lust,  that he cannot participate in that forum.  Then there is a close up of him with the group in the background, and it becomes even more clear how alone in his feelings he is at that moment.  To me this is the subtext that adds so much depth to the video.  It is about being lonely and vulnerable, and wanting to participate, but being excluded.  About lack of confidence, and needing to find your own authenticate way of navigating  this time in a young person&#8217;s life.  And how does the David character do it, through music ofcourse.</p>
<p>I find less overt sexual messages in the post-it game rather interesting.  I find it rather interesting that his note said &#8220;Brad Pitt&#8221; when much has been made of Brad&#8217;s sexuality in private, but in movies, his persona his is overtly heterosexual.  It is also interesting that he is in a relationship with a woman who is reported to be bi-sexual.  Does this post-it reveal anything about the characters desires and wishes to be strong and macho, and overtly sexual, or is it something else?</p>
<p>rascal, you are kind of contradicting yourself a little.  You acknowledge that there is a subtlety and nuance and rich symbols of human experience that trumps alot of High Art pieces in the video, but then you dismiss it as not being art because it is commercial design.</p>
<p>I mean we could debate what is art and I could go into the history of art and say that all art has a commercial driving force, but I think that we really do agree.  There is alot of completely commercial videos in the world that fall short of being art, but I think that we might be able to agree that the Crush video with it&#8217;s complex themes and depth would qualify as &#8220;Art&#8221; despite it&#8217;s origins.</p>
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