Keeping the Lid On
These AOL Sessions are a strange hybrid. They contain all the trappings of a live performance but without an audience, and the control of a studio set-up but without the finesse. I’m not convinced that this is a worthy trade-off. The interests of those performers for whom only a massive amount of audio manufacturing will do (Beyonce) are nicely supported in this format, whereas those performers whose artistry is fueled by the kinesis of playing to living hearts and minds (John Legend, Pink, David) are invariably compromised. We wind up getting something slightly more spontaneous than a recording session, but not as viscerally electric as a real live performance. I feel like I’m watching tour practice. Maybe they should be called AOL Rehearsals.
By allowing him to build the songs on his own, the setting does offer a greater glimpse of the true scope of David’s vocal prowess, and provides evidence of capabilities that were often truncated, compromised, or unrecognized in the studio production rush. But even though they are eminently preferable to the overblown studio treatments, the more holistic band-backed versions do tend to point up the rather insipid nature of most of the writing. David soars but the material sinks, which results in a fairly low altitude overall. In what is quickly becoming an obvious trend, the numbers on which David had a hand in writing are here again the most successful.
I feel like I am still watching potential more than execution with David. And some of it, quite frankly, is his own fault, however exacerbated by limiting circumstances like accelerated studio schedules or live performances that live people can only see recordings of. The truth is that there is a lid on this kid that we’ve only seen blown off in rare instances: finale night, Utah concerts, Tulsa. The lid has yet to be even cracked in the studio.
In the performing arts, there is a delicate dance between control and abandon. Because music has so far been the only dimension in David’s young life where he has allowed himself any abandon at all, most of his performances are both utterly thrilling and ultimately frustrating, as they remain at some level subject to the limitations he imposes on himself in other areas. Far be it from me to imply that David should relinquish his treasured incorruptibility, but a life led with the lid on isn’t likely to be abandoned in its entirety on the stage, in the studio, or anywhere in-between.
rascal, I’m enjoying the simple pleasure of seeing David sing in a situation far improved over a shaky fan video. I agree that the “more holistic band-backed versions do tend to point up the rather insipid nature of most of the writing.”
But… these songs give me chills. “My Hands” just soars for me. David takes me on a journey. I don’t see the lid, I see a young David singing his heart out.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING RASCAL!!!!
The master of the house finally arrives!
We have been waiting for you RASCAL and your take on the AOL sessions. Although I get what you mean, as I have mentioned that I have yet to see him “let go” (wrt You Can) & that we should expect to get more when he is with a real audience (w/ David being one of the true live performers), I still take the AOL sessions nth times better than the recorded version.
The other plus that I was so happy about was other people getting a better appreciation of a number of songs e.g. TMH.
Happy Thanksgiving!
davidfanLIZ — I agree. You all ought to know me well enough by now to realize that just because I don’t gush over the obvious thrills, doesn’t mean I don’t share them with you. And, there is also the practical aspect of having come a little late to the party, when there has already been plenty of eloquent and articulate musings about all the wonderful attributes of these performances. Finally, you all know that I am not here to “give David a break” but to hold him to the incredibly high standards that are of his own making, even if he is not yet consistently achieving them.
rascal, You must know me well enough to know how much I appreciate your clear-eyed, non-gushy view of David. You are our anchor and we all love you!!!
Rascal I am not sure that I feel the same re your comment “as they (his performances) remain at some level subject to the limitations he imposes on himself in other areas.”
I believe that until David really and truly encompasses the idea that he is worthy of all the attention he is getting with regard to his music, that he truly belongs in the music world based on his own merit AND when he has much more control over what songs he sings and how those songs are produced, will the lid come off.
Now, having re-read what I have just written, perhaps you have a point. Specifically, if David cannot get past his humility, JUST ENOUGH to accknowledge his merit in the music industry, we perhaps will only occasionally see again the likes of those stunning, standout performances in the Finalle,Utah and Tulsa.
Rascal- I TOTALLY agree with your last paragraph, but I emphasize your phrase “David’s young life” – in spite of the new signature look, he IS still very young. I believe he will ultimately free himself of his reserve …. the addicting power of the bond with the audience will overwhelm him and he will crave it as all great performers do. Then he will let loose. We see glimpses of it now ….. No worries………maybe we can help him to grow along the way ….
Rascal, I have to remind myself that your blog is called “Noting David On the artistry of David Archuleta”. I think we were all hoping you would LOVE the AOL sessions as we all did. I suppose I’ll be one of the first to say, I’m bummed!
I love the AOL sessions for what they are. David isn’t singing to a live audience, where he does his best, but I feel a connection to him and to the material.
I’m also not sure what to make of your ‘lid on’ analysis, Rascal. Maybe it’ll just take more thought for me to catch up to what you are saying, but my gut instinct is to (respectfully) disagree. Forgive a fumbling of words, but I’m going to try to say what I’m thinking before the thoughts are fully processed: my feeling is that David is headed toward a rich life and will be very giving to those he loves. More so than the masses who don’t respect ‘life experiences’ enough to honor them with their full attention. This is another area where David impresses me — I think he waits because he has had other strong interests to pursue. And this makes him more, in my mind. Not less.
Just to clarify. I really feel and connect with David when he sings. The AOL Sessions IMHO are better than the CD. But, like Rascal, I feel that David has more in him and I await the day that he feels confident enough to deliver it to us. Until then, my heart and soul enjoys where he is now and what he does now.
Hi Rascal, welcome back!!
Thank you for challenging us once again, Rascal. Sometimes, when I have been spazzing lately over parts of the album, I go back to some moments during AI or the tour – Imagine, Smoky Mountain Memories, Tulsa Angels – where he just GETS me, deep, deep down…
I agree that there are limits to his current material. The thing is, as dayum-good David does on the midtempo and flirt-with-the-audience songs, fact is he is more “performing” them than feeling them – which is perfectly understandable given his life experience. The fact that he is able to do this so well is a testament to his prodigious talent.
Still, we are only at the beginning of this journey. Hopefully, as David gets more of a hand in his material – finds or writes songs that express his immense love and compassion and humor and intelligence and anger and pain – then he will have more of a chance to “let go.” But I getcha Rascal: there is an entire order of emotion and power that David that we have only seen brief glimmers of so far – a higher level he can rise to, once the music is truly his.
I love the AOL sessions and I agree that David sang his heart out. However, I agree w/Rascal on “the lid”. I’m not an expert in performance but I see opportunity for more movement and/or animation. For example, in TMH, I was hoping for smiles during the song, a walk across the stage, spontaneous hand-clapping to the beat, or even a tamborine in one hand.
Several weeks ago, there was a clip of David unknowingly filmed rocking out in a radio station to Pink’s Rock Star. His moves were spontaneous and he moved with reckless abandon. Those are the types of moves that I think he withheld from the AOL sessions. But again … I do love his vocals!
Great to have you back, rascal. you were missed! Now can you go away again cuz we were havin’ so much fun! Dang! You almost made me cry! I’m kidding..about you goin’..don’t get mad!
I see what you’re sayin’ about David keeping a lid on..but didn’t you notice that it seemed like he wanted to explode! It was like he was holding onto the mic stand for dear life! I wanted so much for him to have had a hand mic. He was movin & boppin to the music like he wanted to jump out of his skin..but the mic held him back Dang the mic stand. But aside from that, David put so much of himself into the songs, so much so, that we felt what he was singing about..How does he do that? Sing about unexplored experiences with so much feeling that HE MAKES US BELIEVE!! That was the magic of the AOL sessions. We here are all die-hard forever fans, but those AOL sessions made believers out of so-so or not fans. THE VOICE is what it’s about in the sessions. The “letting go” will come in the concerts, and maybe not the Jingle concerts, although I can only hope.
I’ve always said, David doesn’t need props, techno lighting, dancers, etc..give him a piano, a mic & THE VOICE & we will come, over & over to see him sing. Now with the band..Add that too cuz they compliment him very well.
We know what David is capable of in concert, Do we honestly think that for his OWN SOLO concerts he won’t
explode!
Ebonyangel… how many times have I pleaded with David in my own head TO JUST MOVE. You can see he wants to, perhaps even NEEDS to (stomping of feet while singing Crush etc. I still see Shop Around in my head and those spontaneous movements that were evident. It is in him, it will come (back).
I absolutly love the AOL Sessions just as they are. The great thing about David is that he is always striving to better himself and reach other areas he hasn’t even began to touch. I understand that David has many years ahead of him and how he has achieved so much already in just this short time, is just amazing. Remember, everyone, these are opinions, that’s all, and Rascal has his, and I have mine. When I watch the Sessions, I feel David, as if he is singing right to me. I think they are beautiful.
I am really loving these AOL sessions. Here’s how I feel about all this….AI live performances were so much better than the AI studio recordings. AOL Live sessions are so much better than his studio recordings. But this is really where I get happy: AOL Live so much better than any of the AI stuff…(except maybe DLTSGDOM).
I don’t look for what isn’t there yet. I try to appreciate each and every performance David does without nitpicking it apart. These AOL sessions are gems….absolute gems.
Hi Erin – looks like we’re in agreement!
Josie…yes we are! I love that there isn’t a live audience and we can hear the beauty of his voice. I love the band too. These are the songs he was rehearsing the night I saw him, so we were the audience and I must say, these are better.
Rascal…although I do love being able to see David sing anything…I agree with you…l think the “lid is on”! We have not yet seen what I believe is his shining moment…the time when he just lets go! He is holding back or BEING held back with the lack of great material to sing. I like Crush and some of the other songs, but I think with the album being so rushed that he did not get as good of songs as he could have if he had more time to record. I am waiting for that one song that everyone goes ga ga over…just like with “Imagine”. A truly great artist needs that one amazing song that catapoles them into super-stardom and gains them the respect of their critics. I am still waiting….wake up Jive!!
David sings so wonderful in these sessions that I have read comments that they think he is lip-syncing LOL!! I watched one of Cook’s AOL sessions songs called Lie…and oh my heck!! He does not do slow songs well to me. I was trying to be objective and not be so David one sided, but I have to say I had to stop the song before it was finished. His vocal ability is NOWHERE near David’s. After listening to David it made me realize that he is only meant for the faster, loud, screaming, music that I am accustomed to hearing him sing. Just my opinion…not meaning to start anything here ok
There are not many singers who actually sound as good live as they do on their cd, but David is one of those rare few that does.
The other thing that jumps right outta my computer screen is the incredible confidence he exudes. He was really having fun – and having seen him twice now LIVE, I know how the audience fuels his performances, but these sessions are pretty amazing.
And that…is my own (and duh…obs unbiased) opinion.
Let me change one thing that I just said about him not having a shining moment…that was NOT true…alahhh…Finale and Tulsa baby!!!
I meant a song on his album…although platinum sales of Crush makes me rethink that too ha ha…you all know what I mean though LOL!
Well, if you all will excuse me, I think David’s calling me!Seems he want’s to sing to me again! Ah, what can I say? He OWNS me! When he looks into the camera, he is telling me he is singing to me, and only me!! Did I say MAGIC !?
And he’s only 18 years old! Amazing!
Oh, and Erin…if the outfit David is wearing in the sessions was chosen by the stylist the night of the rehersals, he may want to know that this should be David SIGNATURE LOOK forever & always!
Inspired by David, well, sorry we can’t compare Cook to our David. David is in a whole other league. Even on Idol, I never got Cook, still don’t get him. But, because, David really likes him, I’ll leave it at that.
SF, well yes it was…doesn’t he look amazing! But, it’s easy to dress his beauty.
I actually think the mikestand-grabbing stage presence is a good move for now. I think it allows him to project a more sophisticated image, and control his “singing hand” and “With You” style dance moves which can come across as a bit awkward. Maybe eventually he can work with a choreographer to put together some moves that work for these songs. For now though, I think this style on stage works for attracting more casual fans, which he really needs.
I loved these sessions in that they showcase the album well as well as David’s singing ability and stage presence. I think what Rascal was saying about gaining more life experience (I think this is what he was getting at) is a good point. This is why I sometimes say, I wish he would move to New York or somewhere he can be more independenent. After Idol, I even thought maybe it would be good for him to go to Julliard. He seems so sheltered, and maybe this is his choice. But unless he sings only message songs, I think would be good to have some life experience to draw from when interpreting romantic themes. Just my opinion!!
Removing that lid off his life may take some time. It’s something that only he can do, and his background and introverted nature won’t make it an easy thing to do.
I like several of these songs now much more than I did when the album was first released. David’s singing has a lot to do with that. But I’m waiting for the really great stuff that will let him shine. This guy can do wonders with melody and those gorgeous long notes that few singers can bring off.
Personally, I’m tired of all the “angel talk” about David. It’s just ridiculous. And I can only imagine how much pressure such talk puts on him. He’s a young, passionate, creative, red-blooded, imperfect human being! I hope he allows himself to break a few rules now and then…
The “lid” is just rattling now. Just wait for the goodies coming out patiently.
LittleMushroom, David is doing exactly what he wants to do, “sing”. As for the life experiences, those will come, all he wants to do right now is sing. David is special, and though it appears he is very sheltered, he is very wise for his age. Jeff and Lupe have done a wonderful job will all of their kids. They have a huge responsibility with David though. He’s much more than just a voice. He has a spiritual mission to touch others, I believe he is just at the beginning of this. I heard so many stories about how David has changed people for the better. That’s what David is all about.
Here’s the deal….
I intend to live the NOW.
It’s all well and good to hope for more. But more isn’t all that possible without more life experience.
So I intend to rejoice in the now.
And I will step back and enjoy the forrest (new beautiful green) and quit worrying about the trees. It takes time for them to grow and develop enough to break through the canopy. And I can watch them grow and rejoice in that. But I’m not going to stunt their growth by urging them to grow faster.
rascal – I read your review several times and from my read it is overall filled with a strong sense of frustration.
I am no music industry expert so I cannot comment on the ultimate AOL Sessions recording. However, as a fan I can truly say that it was the next step in a progression of steps that we will see from a man-child (for David is a young 17, almost 18 year old and he unabashedly enjoys being young with feet dug in) and he wants to sing teen Pop which does have it limitations for me as a listener and so I try to perceive if his music is REAL and embraced for his target listeners. He is still finding himself and he admits that. As he discovers, he reveals and witnessing that discovery is part of the fascination of being a David fan.
Frankly, the AOL Sessions were surprising as I was expecting something along the lines of Leno, Ellen, Bonnie Hunt performances and it was more. He changed it up, he brought his passion and intensity. He was certainly into his music. I found those versions preferable to the album versions.
I disagree about the Finale as the only AI performances where he let it “all hang out.” Imagine in Top 20, and Love Me Tender in the Top 4 were absolute standouts for me.
I agree we all want the A game, all the time–and it is quite enjoyable to see him finding his A game. It is yet to be ignited with On/Off switch for him though. He has magic and I, too, want that magic in every song. As David grows, It will happen.
As far as life experience, I can truly say from my experience with youth actors, they can nail roles that they haven’t experienced the depth and breadth of emotions in real life. To do so they have to apply stage makeup and costumes for the audience to embrace them as appropriate to the the age of the role they are acting.
I frequently have problems connecting so deeply to music that is from a 17 year old with limited life experience. David’s age is a hinderance as his music and message are far more mature. For instance, with “You Can” all I can think is how can he possibly connect to the emotions of that song since he says he hasn’t even made out yet.
I do ponder the business of entertainment and singers and if David’s course will prove to be financially successful. Being a person of business I do understand the formulas and the paths that must be taken to achieve success and also, to the contrary, the innovations that can occur to blow the formulas and paths to smitherens. I want success for him and I wonder at the twists and turns taken and the wisdom of choices.
So, being a David fan is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma: the enigma of David who sings as if he knows what life is about, yet he doesn’t; the mystery of why I am a diehard fan of his artistry as he is only 17, yet I am; and the riddle of just the whole incredible journey that I didn’t every envision, yet I am here.
juliebug, beautifully said
LittleMushroom and Oriscus8, I agree with you both. I also agree with Rascal’s commentary in many ways. Especially on other sites, I see quite a bit of talk about David being an angel, and all the talk about him finding the “perfect girl” (which I find nauseating, to be honest), etc. etc. We see glimpses of David outside all the shelter-ness in comments such as his recent interview in which he related how he loved the West Village of New York, when he gushes over a musical and the joie de vie in his face afterward, and we see it when he really lets go during the performances.
Having that said, I really did enjoy the AOL sessions. I love hearing the songs in more acoustic arrangements, and of course, I love “You Can” and “ALTNOY.”
This is a quote I saved that pertains to this discussion, I think. An Archuleta fan (Bianca) read a book by Mihaly Csikszentmihaly that discussed the psychology of highly creative people, and posted her thoughts on her myspace. Often, the author says, these highly creative people have character traits that seem almost contradictory. They are introverted and extroverted, mature and playful, etc. (David, anyone?)
Here’s the quote I saved: “Creative people … tend to have quite a strong dose of eros, or generized libidinal energy, which some express directly into sexuality. At the same time, a certain spartan celibacy is also part of their makeup; contenence tends to accompany superior achievement. Without eros, it would be difficult to take life on with vigor; without restraint, the energy could easily dissipate.
Thanks for your appreciation of David’s AOL Sessions, Rascal. We were all wondering what was keeping you from commenting on them already.
Personally, I think it’s pretty obvious to all of us that the lid is on and will remain so for some time, just because he’s so young and unassuming. But that doesn’t take away from all he has already accomplished, and these sessions are great for what they are: a great opportunity for others to discover him and for us, fans, to feed our addiction to that voice and that lovely face.
Anyway, I don’t think the general audience is ready for a full-on, explosive performance yet. Right now, some are so blown away by the quality of his live recording alone that they’ve argued he is lip-synching, for goodness sake! Ha! Give us time to come to grips with the voice first.
Freo – thanks! You and I seem to think alike so I always appreciate your posts
. I loved it too when he talked about how much he liked the West Village.
Erin – I fully respect your opinion and your relationship with the Archuletas. I do feel though that David can still touch people and yet have normal life experiences that are all a part of growing up. I would fear for him if he is put up on too high of a pedestal or held to too high of expectations in his personal life.
I am lamenting at the thought of David having sung Mary Did You Know last night and no one – NO ONE recorded it. He sung this one year ago and did so with such intense passion that I can only imagine what it must have sounded like last night. I’ll bet the lid came off.
His attraction to the West Village brought a big smile to my face. I came of age in Manhattan, and the West Village and Upper West Side were places that constantly fed my own creativity. Gosh, I hope David takes up residence in New York someday! I think he would really enjoy living there.
Dear Rascal I was waiting for your post as much as waiting for these AOL sessions itself
.. a bit unexpected i have to say – after two days filled with praises. However i do agree and appreciate your thought for David… Yes i do feel David as a performer is still the good straight A student who is trying his best to listen and learn.. I believe David is having a good time learning too, seeing him so happy.
As for execution, I geess we are all patiently waiting (my favorite line “show me that good things come to those who wait” he sang it perfectly both in the album & live recording
valbraz33 and juliebug28- perfect!
Oriscus8, I think it’s also telling how much he liked Toronto even after a day there, too. Toronto is similarly a creative place with some similarities to the West Village.
maybe rascal is a little frustrated because he missed the party….. the party is always cathartic…… rascal don’t you usually promote patience? what happened?
He has a passion with his mic…especially seen with…When You Say You Love Me…he is able to project the emotions that he wants to…Frank Sinatra style actually…
We all know what AOl sessions are and thankfully one step above the audio only…
I’ve never seen David quit so irritated…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dU_DUpfU-A
Kizzi #29, I find that I consistently enjoy your posts! I too see these sessions as a wonderful next step. I agree that David is a mystery. He is young, he has a VOICE, he is introverted, he is a spirit channel, he sings pop, he has enormous emotional range, he is inexperienced in the world. This mix of contradictions, goodness and beauty is what keeps me attached at the heart to this young man.
juliebug, that video made me cringe!!! Yuck!
juliebug, thanks for posting that video link. Is it not completely disgusting? This crap has only just begun for him, so let’s expect far less patience on his part in the future. Those people are relentless. Wish I had been on that block at that moment…
poor David
That guy with the camera was terrible.
Lurker here – but so many insightful comments just felt compelled to post. I totally appreciate where Rascal is coming from, but I, too, believe that for a kid who’s only “professional” type experience has been Star Search & AI(as far as my limited knowledge goes), and beyond that is a combination of varied appearances with symphonys, banquets, Christmas parties and the like where David didn’t have opportunity to develop a stage persona, he is doing wonderful (and not even mentioning his humility.) For where he is at in the timeline of his career, I feel he is doing tremendously well and am loving every second of the AOL Sessions.
ronald#11, Kizzi#29, oriscus8#25 – loved you last paragraphs.
erin4david – always enjoy your perspective coming from someone with a closer view.
Kait#32 – great quote.
Rascal, so appreciate your site and posters. Respectful discussion is welcomed and encouraged here, not always the case elsewhere, and I love that. Well, that’s it – pretty windy for a first time poster, huh?
I’m not going to watch the video, but I heard he appeared angry (and rightly so), and as his star rises, this stuff comes with the territory, unfortunately. But I heard that it was cute how he linked arms with his mother and twirled her around.
JULIEBUG – here’s the response from one who registered as celebrity101.com
David is now one of the biggest American Idol’s of all time. To have 2 photographer/videographers following him around for a few minutes is not bad at all. The next day, there were about 6 when he went to lunch
Ugh, that street video made me furious. If David weren’t David he should have given that videostalker a very New York gesture…
Kizzi – #29 – Yes. Just Yes.
Kait – #32 – HG made what I consider to be a very insightful comment a while back on “erotic redirection.”
Erin – Yes, David is on a mission, he is very special, and is absolutely right where he should be. I confess I do get concerned occasionally, however, that he or those around him would seek to imbue this journey with too much… shall we say, “sanctity.” Life is messy. Creativity is chaotic. A garden tended with too much order and formality isn’t conducive to bold new varieties.
I’m not saying the lid needs to come of now, but I hope it’s at least starting to loosen up.
While I anxiously awaited Rascals take on David’s AOL Sessions, I can’t say I am surprised at his reaction to them.
While I can’t say I agree with him, I also know that there is always room for improvement. I also know that alot of his growth will come like most people, with maturity. While David does connect with his audience he is also mindful of the pitch police and the hand police, he said eff you to the eye police waaay back, much to his credit, lol.
I think that once he realized he doesn’t have to be pitch perfect to be effective, he will let the ‘lid’ off. I think however, given the confines of Sessions that David made the most out of that situation. I still think they were a remarkable display of his artistry. Could he have moved more? Yes. Could he have let go more? I really don’t know. I also as a matter of fact gained more an appreciation for the lyrics in the songs instead of hearing any glaring fault in them.
I have to say that i like pop music, even though I am more an R&B/Soul kinda girl, so I don’t look down my nose at him singing what he loves singing. Anyone watching him sing random tunes knows he is an encyclopedia of pop music, what else should he be singing?
rascal – “Life is messy. Creativity is chaotic. A garden tended with too much order and formality isn’t conducive to bold new varieties.” – agree, ‘or condicive to growth.’
That video – yuk
“Life is messy. Creativity is chaotic.” Life has a shadow side. Dipping down into this shadow side is messy and chaotic, but it can inform our creativity and make us more whole, more human.
Yay! Rascal Returns! Ok, you ARE “Noting David” … and you wrote a beautiful critique. I sincerely took every bit in — and in a dry and clinical way — yes, all points are well taken. Check. Check. Check.
HOWEVAH… I’m with Erin & Josie. ♥ I still watch the sessions (post Rascal post) and, well, they’re still frickin’ frackin’ S..T..U..N..N..I..N..G (to moi) I’m also blown away with these sans-live-audience performances given (1) how long ago they were taped and (2) given they ARE sans audience. He for sure didn’t have all that much rehearsal time (given his schedule, possibly as little as the amount he got for AI performance prep). Did I say DAYUM? DAYUM. I really love the sense of his feeling comfortable, of the “relaxation” that comes through to me, too.
The whole question of “moves” for me goes right with the one about “closed eyes”. I find myself squarely, unequivocally and irretractibly (I tink I made a new word…lol) planted in the the “whatever works for YOU, David, and YOUR ZONE works for ME” camp. (I am also in the camp that unconditionally adores every single *shred* of “With You.”) In my experience thus far, David at any point of development and experience has never EVER failed to be “The Real Deal”. He just DOES that. Every time. EVERY FRACKIN’ TIME. (For me.)
Kizzi (#28) BRAVO!
In fact, LOTS of Great Posts!! Too many to mention!! (Love you guys!)
ps: just when the new thread came up, our power went out. dangit. Just got it back… trying to catch up. lol… TRYING, I said.
I LOVE DAVID ARCHULETA!
::::dragging bag’o'AOL Sessions back to room to over indulge::::
Rascal, spot on! I am very concerned about everyone around him in this business. But, I know that David is David, and that is what is going to get him through the rough times. UUGGG! That video, don’t you just want to protect David! I do!
He’s just starting to blossom, with his creativity. It’s just the beginning for him. Hold on, because we will see much, much more…..Can you just imagine how his spanish and spiritual album will be?
Snarkys has an update on the Osmond concert stuff.
http://www.snarkyarchies.com/2008/11/more-osmonds-christmas-pictures.html
beebee, just love you! You have just described how I feel about our David. The world is a better place with him.
Beebee – He had FIVE rehearsals with the band before the AOL sessions were filmed. The Leno appearance was the next day.
And I was at the Fifth!
Well that’s an interesting take, Rascal—one that would not have entered my mind. I guess I’m not so anxious to get the future reeled into the present. I appreciated the simplicity of the production of these–noticing even the distance of David out in front of the band, and every camera angle making it clear that David is the featured artist here (as opposed to the CD, on which I think the soundboard people thought *they* were the stars!) Everything about the production spotlights David’s voice and mastery. The focus points to the vocal perfection that is still unfathomable to me—I couldn’t close my jaw or get my fingers to work, to type a comment yesterday, when I saw them the first time. I’m 110% happy for David with how these sessions turned out.
That said, and now that you mention it, I see a degree of “lid on it” in David’s gestures and body language. Perhaps if AOL *did* put a live audience into these sessions, we would see what you are wishing to see, Rascal, but there isn’t one, so I think the laser focus on his *mad vocal skills* is perfect. Perfectly awesome, actually. I don’t feel anything missing, in his life experience, when he sings–at this point in time. In these sessions, I think what’s missing is merely an audience.
But I didn’t miss it that much. I was happy to have David singing to just meeeeeeeeee! haha
Highervibe- You are mistaken. He was singing to ME. haha!
highervibe, juliebug..you are both mistaken, cuz I just came from David singing TO ME!! sorreeee!
Silverfox – I fear for your sanity….more than usual.
Oh no, it was ME!
On a serious note..
The street video was ugly but not so surprising..what is surprising is that David & his mom were out on the streets of NY at night alone?? They are from UTAH and he’s DAVID! Isn’t it time for David to have at least one bodyguard with him at all times or at least when he’s with his mom? I don’t think the videographer would have followed David as far as he did had he been with his dad. It looked to me like Lupe really thought the guy was trying to be helpful, but David knew better right off and tried to veer Lupe away. David was really not happy and showed it…GOOD FOR HIM! We may as well get used to scenes like this as long as there is an interest in everything and anything about DAVID..and we, all of us are guilty of giving that guy reason to stalk David & his mom. His mom is a sweet lady..had I been his mom, I would have smacked the guy and made things worse! David used his head by getting into a cab..smart!!
So far nothing has topped that Tulsa performance in terms of seeing the potential of when David is unleashed. We see how David can bring it, and we want to see that same power and passion every time he performs live. However, with just a single look into the camera, I felt a complete connection to the AOL Sessions. I love them all, and have a newly found appreciation for each song. This is the first time he’s done those songs live after all, and I believe we agreed that it takes David time…time to get all the technical aspects of singing into his muscle memory so that he can nurture the other aspects. And I agree with everyone here…David is at his best with an audience. But I see the AOL Sessions similar to MTV Unplugged – an intimate setting that showcases the artist’s vocals. And for that, David delivered.
Erin, you mentioned, …I am very concerned about everyone around him in this business.
Are you able to elaborate? I can’t imagine the whirlwind.
That video sounds really crazy. I wonder if it was taken before or after they went to the musical or movie together.
SF, I agree! Jeff would have taken care of that guy. Lupe is like David, a little shy with the camera, doesn’t like all the media stuff. I’m sure Jeff is probably pretty upset that happened. I do think it’s probably time though to have a bodyguard with him…..guess I’m not tough enough, darn.
juliebug…Thank you… more than ususal!
Erin..you are my hero, uh….my friend, cus David really did sing to you! How you are still SANE is beyond me!
How’s the knee? Hope all is good & healing nicely.
BTW..do you know where David is today & tomorrow??
heh-heh!!
kait -32 If you go to the TeamArchie website http://teamarchie.com/ and look on the right hand side you will see Team Archie – The Blog Team. Bianca’s name is listed and if you click it will pop up the blogs that Bianca has written for that website. The two blogs (scroll down a bit) The Super-Creative David Archuleta, Part 1 and Part 2 reference the book you mentioned and are Interesting reading.
Funny, all this talk about waiting for the “lid to come off” when I think one of the strongest attributes that David has going for him is the “understatement” in his performances.
For me, with him, less is more.
BTW….Our little savant is #1 AGAIN on MSN X-rank for BOTH celebrity AND musicians. I gotta believe those AOL sessions might be contributing to all the searches for him. He’s getting TONS of interest!
Body Guards!!! He needs LOTS of bodyguards!!
The pics at snarky’s..hahaha! The second pic looks like David is ODing on all the OSMOND LUV directed at him..he looks like he’s gonna pass out! hahaha!
emmegirl08 keep on posting…
Freofan, all the interviews, people he meets, outside people that don’t get David, that’s what I mean. The business is a difficult and hard business. It’s the mother in me that wants to protect him, but I guess we all can’t do that.
SF. thanks my friend. Lucky David got to sing last night with the Osmonds (2nd generation) I think he’s still in Utah, I sure hope so.
My knee’s coming along, getting better everyday. David is very healing…
Yes, Jeff would have taken care of that guy. I could even see Jeff giving someone like that the finger or a verbal licking if he got mad enough.
Ok folks, get the paddles out. There’s some new photos of David over at IDF. You will especially like the one of him looking backwards over his shoulder in a gray sweater and giving the Archugaze:
http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=585622
I think they are filming the video for ALTNOY today and tomorrow. There was speculation filming might be done in Canada…could be a rumor.
Maybe we could ask one of those idiot photogs whose probably trailing him as we speak
FreoFan, Jeff has more class than that, but I do think he would have handled it.
Wow those pictures, the kid doesn’t take a bad picture.
I COMPLETELY agree with Rascal. If you watch David singing the last few lyrics of “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” in the AI finals, he interjects UNCONSCIOUS runs, growls and emotion from the depths of his soul. The AI finals and the Tulsa performances are David at his emotive best, connecting with the audience like no other. He’s on a different frickin’ plane when he goes there. THAT is when the lid is off. THAT is the David I am waiting for.
When we talk about taking the “lid off” I really don’t know exactly what is meant.
I do believe that what some people may think David needs to do to gain lifes experiences would actually not make him happy. I believe that David has a very profound understanding of who he is, and what will bring him happiness. We are all accountable for our choices and are effected by them .He will choose carefully because he understands that.
I loveeeee the AOL Sessions. These experiences for David are so new and exciting. I am sure he is taking notes and learning. He will just keep getting better and better.
Joner – #71 – You should know that I am always the first one (indeed, I think I actually was the first one!) to articulate an appreciation of the nuance and subtlety that makes David’s work so special. I have not only gone on record with statements like, “there is an aspect of discovery involved in appreciating David’s genius,” I even conveyed this very sentiment–specifically, his impeccable taste–to him personally when I met him. No one is more sensitive to this aspect of his appeal.
However… He is doing straight-up pop material now: mass-market, rock-tinged radio fare that demands a certain highly-focused energy, the kind of energy that David will undoubtedly get from a live audience, but which is still evidently somewhat elusive to him without it. The one song that is a possible exception to this energy requirement is “You Can,” and his performance of it is lovely, but I just don’t feel like the song itself is really that strong (I liked it more when I first heard it, but it has not held up in subsequent plays).
Listen, if I weren’t so transfixed by David’s subtlety and nuance, how could I be so enamored of “Somebody Out There”?
Rascal, what you said in the post is exactly how I feel about it. These performances are almost nothing short of perfect – the vocals were simply amazing and the expressivity was definitely there. But I really feel the limitations of the songs themselves – even ALTNOY, although co-written by David and IMO the best performed song in the Sessions, feels a bit restrained. And part of it might indeed be the “lid on” factor: the songwriters etc. he worked with on the album are of a very high level (at least that’s how I interpret it), but I think that they just couldn’t find the right “spark” to work from, that they didn’t “get him” in the way that you need to “get” someone in order to write a good song for them, because he restrained himself so much (and probably also had his own thoughts about not having certain things in songs), which resulted in songs that are a bit “empty”, and that’s what shows in the Sessions: the songs keep him on the ground, so to say.
The idea that the “lid” in his “real life” could have something to do with the “performing David” is something I hadn’t thought of before, but it’s something that must play a role.
I don’t know what exactly you’re aiming at when you talk about “removing the lid in real life” – but it’s a really complicated question. There are definitely some areas in which he’s holding back, and the fact that he wants to be as sincere as possible creates a tension which sometimes results in awkwardness. But I don’t know if removing the restrictions is always the “right answer” – it probably is for his general shyness (the fact that in interviews he makes more and more direct statements without trying to stay general shows that he’s releasing more and more), but I don’t know if the idea is right in general.
As much as I absolutely love the AOL Sessions and personally have no “performance” issues with them, at the AMA’s David did talk about learning more about the business, and performing was one of the things he mentioned. He is, me thinks, a pretty smart cookie.
AOL Sessions: I have frequently read criticism for David’s singing hand, for his bobbing of his upper body, even his movements during DLTSGDOM were criticized although his vocals had us all at the edge of our seats, hearts pounding. In the past he has said he is awkward in his movements on stage. I thought the choreography of his movements during the tour was very good and at the end he appeared completely comfortable with moving on stage. i don’t know the importance overall of the AOL Sessions as they relate to David’s career path and obviously giving him movements for the Crush performance for the Leno, Ellen, BH Show was not on the agenda by his advisers.
I am hopeful that he has choreography worked out for his songs for the Jingle Ball/Jams. Perhaps by Atlanta, he will have realized his power as not only a singer, but an entertainer! (You always make me think hard, rascal!)
Ummmmm….
http://www.snarkyarchies.com/2008/11/um-whoa.html
Alexei — Thank you for your sensitive and insightful comments. Oddly enough, I was privately hoping that someone might contest or at least question my premise of real life containment influencing musical life limitations, because I do believe that one may successfully argue for an unbound artistic life without the actual practice of liberality as its fertilizer. But–and this is a big but–I would unquestionably argue that an unrestrained heart and mind is essential. David has on several occasions given indications of a certain restraint that is at least curious, and at most rather austere. If I had to speculate, I’d say that it is less a matter of limits having been assigned to existing contemplations than it is a moratorium on certain categories of contemplation altogether. On the plus side, one can only imagine what–if the power of his expression is such as it is within these parameters–lies in store when he ventures outside them.
Nothing to do with the current topic, but I’m bringing this over from IDF because I thought it was an interesting comparison…
Speaking of Ella -
Ella Jane Fitzgerald (April 25, 1917 – June 15, 1996), also known as “Lady Ella” and the “First Lady of Song”, is considered one of the most influential jazz vocalists of the 20th century.[1]
With a vocal range spanning three octaves, she was noted for her purity of tone, phrasing and intonation, and a “horn-like” improvisational ability, particularly in her scat singing. She is widely considered to have been one of the supreme interpreters of the Great American Songbook.[2]
Over a recording career that lasted 57 years, she was the winner of 13 Grammy Awards, and was awarded the National Medal of Art by Ronald Reagan and the Presidential Medal of Freedom by George H. W. Bush.
Fitzgerald was also notoriously shy. Trumpet player Mario Bauza, who played behind Fitzgerald in her early years with Chick Webb, remembered that “She didn’t hang out much. When she got into the band, she was dedicated to her music….She was a lonely girl around New York, just kept herself to herself, for the gig.”[3] When, later in her career, the Society of Singers named an award after her, Fitzgerald explained, “I don’t want to say the wrong thing, which I always do. I think I do better when I sing.”[7]
Remind you of anyone?
Our Ronaldsf posted the following link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blNbsBLjN94
The OP said: “No doubt the critics would complain about her closed eyes.”
Ella was a genius of a musician. She was Frank Sinatra’s idol. I could listen to her all day every day. I hope David discovers her at some point.
Juliebug…Ummm…oh my HOTNESS!!! Love the pic!!
I kinda, sorta forced my sixteen year old son to listen to these session songs. I told him I needed some “computer help”.
He is slightly jealous of David.
He liked the band (He’s in a band himself)
We listened to TMH and he said “that guy is brave to even contemplate singing with David – nobody sounds that good in real life”
I just have to say that I have rarely enjoyed a set more.
Rascal, you should cut a CD of some of your favorite pieces of music and send it to David. We know from the tour he really enjoyed getting those things from the fans. Who knows, you may be the one to introduce him to some of the greats.
Love you to bits, Rascal, but gee whiz, way to buzz-kill. I hear what you’re saying about restraint maybe in terms of physical stagecraft but musically? Sorry, don’t hear any lid, cap, box top or Saran Wrap holding back our Master Class whiz kid’s vocals in these sessions.
The intensity coupled with the virtuoso musicality of My Hands in particular reminded me of a great sax player riffing his heart out.
Juliebug #88, I have often thought of Ella Fitzgerald when listening to David. Not only does his purity of tone and exquisite phrasing remind me of Ella’s, but I loved the way she used her voice more like a musical instrument taking the melody off on a journey, as does he.
Rascal #87: “David has on several occasions given indications of a certain restraint that is at least curious, and at most rather austere. If I had to speculate, I’d say that it is less a matter of limits having been assigned to existing contemplations than it is a moratorium on certain categories of contemplation altogether.”
I fully agree with your speculation. I would add that what he is experiencing is not unusual for the identity seeking phase of a 17 year old in their psychological development of their sense of self in the context of his background. He has many standards of conduct that have been diagrammed for him as a given. For some, those standards make sense, for others, they are simply someone’s perceived truth. I have thought about this often and am eager to see how this will evolve. The non-judgmental facet of his psyche is going to be quite exercised as he moves forward with his music career.
Kizzi 94 – yes.
Just a note: audience-free studio tapings will never ever equal or approximate a packed 8,000-seat concert venue complete with over the top audience *pumped*n*stoked* mojo. Not gonna happen. Simply not the same thing.
If (for ‘zample) Derek and the Dominoes performed the original “Layla” in an AOL Studio session… not a snowball’s chance in hell it would be the same as a live concert “blow the roof off” phenomenon. (On the other hand, Eric Clapton’s “Layla” unplugged–completely different animal — has a half a chance in the taped-studio performance situation.) But live with an audience will always be different, and I have to believe will always, in every case, trump a *sterile* studio taping. Especially where David Archuleta is concerned. Because, well first of all, like, he can SING, maybe? (And hey, we wuz raised up on live-before-an-audience Archuleta magic.) Real chemistry is undeniable, is electrifying and requires all the components to “take off”. IMO, in the AOL Sessions David brings it in spite of the sterility of the audience-free situation. And even as I “thud” at the very thought of the concert performances to come, and all the growth and familiarity he will develop with EVERYTHING as time marches on, I am still in unabashed awe of the AOL Sessions.
BTW, I ADORE Ella (and have at times listened to her all day every day…lol). But I bet an AOL Session of Ella singing “Misty” or “Mack the Knife” would never match a live concert performance of the same… lol… jez sayin’. Oh, and also btw, I have to wonder what the “moves police” out there would have to say about Ella’s “moves”. I feel so strongly that an artist (vs. “performer” …Brittany? etc.) must move in whatever way the music and the delivery thereof drives him or her to move.
OMG, that just reminded me of the “Almighty Archuleta Hunkerdowns” … *THUD!* (I wouldn’t ask him to stop that if my life DEPENDED on it… come to think of it… my life DOES depend on it. The Hunkerdowns have nearly KILT me… =:O )
Kizzi, excellent points. David reminds me a lot of some of my college friends who came from similar backgrounds as he and really explored their own identity in college. Some came out not much unchanged, others made different choices than that learned from their families and churches in many cases. But in all cases the choices worked for them as individual and they were even stronger as a result.
So I looked at the J-14 photos at Snarkies. The one in the gray jacket, with collar turned up and David looking quasi-sideways…ummmm…is that a boy next door look?
Ummmm…….no, it is meant to attract tweens & teens to his music.
That is business of music sales. Fascinating!
Kizzi, I forgot to mention:
The non-judgmental facet of his psyche is going to be quite exercised as he moves forward with his music career.
…I agree with your point fully. We’ve seen glimpses of this, particularly in his musical interests, interactions with fans, his thoughtful and respectful reaction when asked about Clay’s coming out, and other situations.
Joner #78, “filming the video for ALTNOY today and tomorrow. There was speculation filming might be done in Canada” — hey, no fair dropping such tantalizing tidbits on a Canadian still weak from repeated viewings of the AOL sessions! BeeBee #96, ROTFL.
(That NYC stalking video made me sad. Mostly because I know it’s just the beginning….)
rascal #87 “…one may successfully argue for an unbound artistic life without the actual practice of liberality as its fertilizer.”
rascal, your words made me think of Emily Dickinson, someone who lived completely in her mind and soul and had an extremely limited experience in the messy, chaotic, outside world. I’m not saying that David is like Dickinson, it simply relates to the question of artistic expression and life experience. Could her writings be an example of that “unbound artistic life” even with “real life containment?”
Rascal,
Don’t be so sure that David is “imposing limitations” on himself. It could be that he is just being David and knows what he is comfortable with at this stage of his life. As the mother of 3 sons, I see something in David, that is.. I suspect he calls the shots more than one might think when it comes to creativity AND his personal life. Just an observation.
davidfanLIZ: I thought the same thing when I read that. It is possible and rascal has actually pointed that out when he wrote that David (and I am paraphrasing and compacting a beautiful post) is a conduit to the “universe.” I don’t think experience has to be the ultimate criteria to appreciate an artists gift. However, I believe rascal is saying that David choose Pop, and teen Pop at that, as the starting point of his career and that demands a certain level of energy, of giving, of non-restraint.
emmegirl and freofan: thanks for the feedback on my post. I have this incredible feeling, this absolute certainty that we won’t be disappointed!
janhn – great point about “what he is comfortable with at this stage of his life.” We are talking about a non-jockular high school senior who, I’ll quote David’s friend Mietra, “doesn’t like to draw attention to himself. He’d rather stand back and observe.”
I Love you all………
Beebee96- speaking of Clapton……. how old does David have to be to sing “Have you ever loved a woman?”
Which actually brings up the serious point of song choice for him, the depth of the music and this pop stuff….. I don’t think he’d be believable singing that song now… as great as his voice might sound…. but, when he’s ready to blow the lid off, then please get the paddles ……
Kizzi 103- “David chose teen pop.” What would everyone like him to sing NOW? It is an interesting question for older fans because we are accustomed to living off of very powerful music that speaks of life. However, it is not really that appealing for me to listen to a young man not even out of high school sing about certain profound life experiences. So I am enjoying the fun pop stuff and I think it works for me….
Kizzi, #94, “The non-judgmental facet of his psyche is going to be quite exercised as he moves forward with his music career.”
So true. To me, every great artist, regardless of age, upbringing or life experience, shares one fundamental gift — in their very bones they carry an understanding of what it means to be human.
David clearly has this gift. It not only helps free him from imposing judgment but also allows him to interpret songs and express feelings so beyond his years it’s almost frightening.
happy – I am enjoying the “teen pop” too; that is part of the enigma, mystery and riddle of being a David fan for me. I feel lucky to be a part of this so early in David’s career. And no one is more surprised than me that I am here, now and plugged in to every aspect of what is going on in his career!
Happy, I think he could “convince” me with certain songs, right this red hot minute, regardless of his personal experience. Depends on how he feels about the song. If he both really “gets” the song, and is deeply moved by it, himself, I think he can MORE than make it his own. F’rinstance, I think about “At Last” … and (:::swoon:::) there is no doubt in MY mind he could *slay*. Right now. (Remember the little David in Star Search and the *psssst* smokin’ hot material he delivered. NOW… fast forward to today. Oh he can DELIVER anything he puts his mind to. Zero doubt in my mind.) I just think he is at a stage where he can and does (and wants to) weigh carefully what he decides to perform and record. I think it’s a very important balancing act for him and I’m very proud of him every step of the way. He blows me away on every level. (Does it show?)
hmm… this makes me think back to ASIG. *Thud* (Man these flashbacks are killin’ me…) (And he didn’t even CHOOSE that one… sheezie peezie, he’s so freaking amazing to me…)
So….David is doing a little mini-concert at the Hard Rock Cafe in Time Square in January. How very “Un-Disney”…I like that!
Joner – What!!! How do I get a ticket to attend?
OK, I can’t get a ticket as I am toooooo OLD. Yet another lesson that David is marketing to teens. Alas, alack, that I am not–LOL!
Kizzi – I’m thinking of renting a kid so I can get in as their chaperone.
Joner – Me too! My granddaughter is 12–GAH!
Kizzi – Could we flip for her??? LOL
beebee109- I didn’t mean to imply that he can’t sing any growed-up songs. It’s just that the lyrics have to work. The lyrics of that song would work for me….
At last, my love has come along
My lonely days are over
And life is like a song
Oh, yeah, at last
The skies above are blue
My heart was wrapped up in clovers
The night I looked at you
I found a dream that I could speak to
A dream that I can call my own
I found a thrill to rest my cheek to
A thrill that I have never known
Oh, yeah when you smile, you smile
Oh, and then the spell was cast
And here we are in heaven
For you are mine
At last
OK, sobering thought. David is NOT marketing himself or his music to me. I am a non-significant statistic (lowering thought) and what I think isn’t that important (an even lower thought.)
*going away to eat worms* *sniff*
oh kizzi ~ we love you…….
David is a self-control type person, to me, occasionally he is too conscious, which sometimes consciousness is not necessary on stage, when you should follow your feeling. When he performed in AI Finale, in Tulsa, I believe it’s the last show, he needed not think about the “future shows”, then he could pour all he has into one performance.
It’s not easy to him know how to “switch”, when he is that conscious to be 17 years long… that’s why I am saying watching him grow is that interesting, he is star-WIP…
I always appreciate your comments about David. I tend to view most things that David does in perspective. I remind myself of all the 17 year olds I know, and in that frame of reference, am consistently blown away by David. I’m blown away at his maturity, his incredible talent, his poise, etc
My gosh, these videos, if nothing else, showcase this boys amazing vocal skills. He has the voice of an angel. To me, the songs sound exactly like the album, only better. I’m not an expert on the band, but they sound just like the record as well.
In terms of the songs themselves, I really like them all. I wake up every morning singing a different one. I think the material is fantastic as a whole, in light of his age and experience in life. The album is exactly like he said it would be…a real variety of song. From the simple songs, Touch my Hand, to the more mature Barriers (my current favorite) which has so many layers, to the hauntingly lovely Falling, that he wrote himself.
(The current vocal highlight of the album for me is in Barriers, and the tremendous passion and feeling in his voice as he sings toward the end of the song, “That we keep running into.
Been tryin’, but we just can’t break through.
I know I’m gonna keep wishin’ I was with you,
But we just gotta stop…” Wow is all I can say.)
Anyway, I’m rambling but wanted to chime in here. Thanks for your honest, intelligent offerings on all that is David. I just love that this is a site where I can read adult content about David.
David will continue to unfold before our eyes and what a joy ride we will continue to have. Man o man, this guy is so talented, his voice so pure and lovely. I continue to be overwhelmed at this gift I have been given and remain so blessed to have somehow been chosen as one of the lucky ones that fells David so deeply.
Thanks Happy for the support! I think I want to be a teen again but know what I know now—is that possible?!
MYYK – interesting point–so if we were lucky enough to advise him, we’d say treat every performance as your last. I like the “work in progress” thought!
lol… happy… (growed-up) … YES, that’s what I meant… “At Last” IS something David could wrap his heart, soul and vocal chord around…
And a whole lot more, too (It really is so much fun to imagine him singing so MANY incredible songs. I think we’re on the same page… ) Anyhoo, imo, he can pretty much do whatever he WANTS to do. And that happens to be contemporary POP right now…and we get to follow along… and enjoy. He’s navigating a very tricky and potentially unforgiving course right now, and far as I can see, he’s doing a freakin’ stellar job at it, too. (He’s Archu_Intrepid. He can handle it. ) His options and choices right now are complicated and in some ways downright *weighty* and fraught with potential pitfalls. He is balancing a lot, including when to heed others’ advice and when not, inasmuch as he has any control there. He seriously never ceases to amaze me. *Sigh* I knew following this “journey” was gonna be astounding.
Hello Rascal and everyone…I lurk here but rarely post. I’ve been reading the initial commentary by Rascal and the responses with much interest. All the previous posts are very insightful.
I am as anxious as the rest of you to have David uncork it, hit it out of the park, crack open that lid. But, I don’t want AOL sessions to be the forum for that.
I felt it was Christmas on Nov. 27th when those sessions were posted. I cannot get enough and am streaming My Hands as I type. Are they akin to a live performance and getting feedback from throngs of adoring fans? Nope. But do they give some insight into what we have in store for the next month and future tour with this band and the new CD? Absolutely. For example, I was pleasantly surprised by smexiness of My Hands. That’s quite a leap for David….I would love him to take more chances in that regard and am looking forward to Your Eyes Don’t Lie based upon what I saw from MH. And thank heavens he didn’t take Andrew Lloyd Weber’s advice about the eyes!
David is winding up and waiting for the real pitch to be thrown. When he’s feeding off of the energy of a huge crowd like at the imminent Jingle Balls, watch out, and bring on the ice cream.
Pastel, I have to agree with you there, I think this stage presence he’s developing and that we’re seeing in the sessions will be extremely well-received in the Jingle Balls – and just wait until he’s in front of an audience! Those balls are such a great opportunity because many will be introduced to him for the first time and I think they will be blown away when he sings live in these arenas. I would love to see YEDL live too – and wouldn’t this be a fun one to get people dancing??
And yes although I agree with Rascal’s broader point, it’s true that David’s come so far in such a short time, It’s amazing. In these performances he’s already looking like a pro. It will only get better…..
pastel & LittleMushroom, Isn’t that one of the great joys of being a fan of David?!! We get to watch him transform from a high school kid singing in his school auditorium to a giggly kid at the beginning of AI to a more confident singer on tour to singing his own songs with his own band on the AOL Sessions. Each of these stages has been/is a joy to watch.
BTW, I am over-the-top with excitement for Wednesday!!
oh arch angels, all these aol snippets are killing me! waaaaaaay intense, incredible! david james’ performances are SUBLIME! the sleeper “you can” is a monster stand out classic in his debut album! his rendition of it pricelss, waaay heartfelt! the kid has gotta smile, he could just see the arena concert crowd goin nuts, screaming and all waving their bulb lights! he’s gotta put on that wicked smile as he gets embraced by all the lovin in his global debut album tour! whooooooooooo! the kid is waaaaaay excellence!!
davidfanLIZ – it is!! And he has transformed so much already. I can’t WAIT for him to return for a performance on Idol. Especially now that he would likely return with a rendition of ALTNOY!!
By the way, what is Wednesday??
Hi Pastel..think we’ve met on another site….that avatar looks awfully familiar!:) “My Hands” blew me away..it’s a very difficult song, and I could tell at the end he was pleased w/his performance. (with good reason) That being said, I am happy to just watch David unfold naturally at his own pace, and hope Jive, his fans, and everyone else just lets him do so. It will pay off in the long run, and after all, we are all in it for the long run! Lifetime fans!
LM: Wednesday is the Sacramento Jingle show, sorry if my reference before was too vague. About 45 fans (mostly FODers, but some are NDers) are meeting up before the show for lunch, and then we get to hear David!!!!!!!
Oh that’s great!!! Have fun Liz!!!! I am going in Chicago 12/16
Have fun on Wed., Sacramento Jinglers!
Guess I’ve been too focused on the sessions to notice the poll AOL is running there: Which is your favorite David Archuleta performance?
11% ‘My Hands’
27% ‘A Little Too Not Over You’
19% ‘Touch My Hand’
14% ‘Crush’
29% ‘You Can’
Total Votes: 2277
Pastel Hi!
Yep, I was sayin’ earlier, taped studio sessions may (and do) hold their own kind of magic but can never approximate a concert venue situation. (And I’ve always LOVED “My Hands”… and now with the “Session”… guh! Kills me daid.) (It all kills me daid) (Let’s face it, David kills me daid, period. In a GOOD way… :p)
As for “smexy”: On the one hand one can see that “sexiness” as a “leap” … but (if we’re talking about the same thing… not sure) I have always seen a wicked, WICKED smexiness in David’s performances all along because of the “real deal factor”. That alone is just undeniably sexy. Always has been. Always will be. As long as he’s throwing his musical soul into a performance, the dude’s sexy. It’s just unavoidable. It’s part and parcel of the DA “Package”. lol. aww…poor thing. Just one of those (fortunate) side effects of… the real deal. (The cross he must bear…) That kind of “sexy” is thoroughly artistically infused and so far superior to manufactured “smexy” (and “legit”) it ain’t funny. Gee, y’suppose that’s why throngs’o'far-from-tween fans are DOOMED FOR LIFE?…lol. Powerful stuff there.
Liz, I still can’t believe I’m actually going on Wed.! (Archu_denial?)
LittleMushroom, I am going to the Chicago Show, too, on 12/16! Would you like to meet Joner and I for dinner? We are organizing an informal dinner among fans at a restaurant nearby the venue.
Freofan! Thank you for the invite, I would love to!! The only thing is I may not be able to get out there early enough, coming straight from work downtown
. But I’ll check with you guys closer to the date in case that changes!!! Do you think D will be the first performer? I’m guessing so…
Kizzi..can i come too..to eat worms??
It does hurt that David really isn’t sing to us!
I’ve been catching up with all the posts and all are insightful..some I agree with, some I don’t but all are thought provoking. I notice too that when rascal posts a controversial opinion that goes against the grain of the majority, we get many “new” posters and lurkers. That’s what make this site so great. We can agree to disagee. I will say that I think there is a reason David holds back at this point, but he will surprise us, like in Tulsa. Everyone talks about Tulsa, but he
had many awesome performances throughout the tour. It seemed to depend on the audience reaction to him as soon as he stepped on stage..if he didn’t “feel” the audience, he performed accordingly. I think rascal attended one of those concerts. And rascal was less than impressed with his stage presence, not his vocals. Like most performers, David feeds off his audiences.
I buh-lieve we will be in for the biggest surprise of our lives, if not in the Jingle concerts, then David’s solo concerts next year..he will no doubt, have his audiences eating out of his beautiful hands. He will have no reason to keep the lid on!
beebee – See you Wednesday!
I agree with you Silverfoxe. I like it that Rascal isn’t afraid to push the envelope and offer up commentary that doesn’t go against the grain. There are other sites out there with mostly rainbows and unicorns, gushing about David being an angel and his future wife/the perfect girl and so on, but I like at this site that we can talk even controversial issues.
whoops–I meant to say that his commentary at times does go against the grain!
# 107 Tofan
‘So true. To me, every great artist, regardless of age, upbringing or life experience, shares one fundamental gift — in their very bones they carry an understanding of what it means to be human. ‘
TOfan, I can’t begin to tell you how much I love this comment!
Please excuse me for barging in to your conversation……
Voting for VIDEO OF THE YEAR is up at MUSIQTONE!!!
Everybody go vote!!!…It’s a new poll!!…….one vote is allowed per person
http://musiqtone.com/music/thecount/voting.php
I leave for a couple of hours and everyone’s announcing all their party meetings. I’m so envious. Sac Jingle, Chicago Jingle, Albany Jingle…woe is me, I can’t go to the MSG Jingle and don’t know of anyone going to Philly. I keep saying I must meet the NYC locals just to share ODD!!! dj, chickee, ninaf, rascal, brooklyndawn??
Good morning/evening, Angels. I woke up to find a new thread and more than a hundred comments from the Angels. Have read thru a few comments only.
Rascal, thanks for your thought provoking article and respect the points made and understand your concerns and frustration.
For me, I love the AOL performance simply because it has no screaming fans (which is heart-warming but spoils listening pleasure); it is better than the normal studio takes and the changed up versions are so much more better than those on the CD. His VOICE soars above the instruments.
Inspite of all those limits/lid he is able to connect to me (and I am sure many fans feel this way). I am in awe. However, I image that he would move around the stage and enagage with his audience when he performs in concerts. I admit there is still room for improvement and he is only nearly 18!
As it is, he has already slayed me. I cannot imagine the impact on me when the lid is off and he became more aware of his huge talent and able to use it to the fullest. I hope when that time comes, I will still be around, sigh*
Why is My Hands last in preference? It’s my absolute favourite, which I listen to many times a day, since the first snippet. The AOL session version of it is amazing. His satisfied smile when he finishes singing is so revealing. It’s like he’s saying, ‘Not too shabby. I think I like it. Do you?’
Gosh, I am back to watching the AOL sessions again.
I love that boy to pieces. If anyone can make me believe in love again, David “You Can”. And “My Hand” is soooooooooooo (I am lost for words). dang it, I love all the 5 performances and the “Dang-Its” band!
many have expressed concern that we should not expect David to be an angel, a perfect person. that he is a real person with flaws and that we need to remember that. i agree. i also think that applies to his growth as an artist. just because we see the possible perfection in David’s art/ music, we must remember that he is still learning & growing in that area as well.
to me the aol sessions were amazing & i am loving them still! as someone else said earlier today “I don’t look for what isn’t there yet. I try to appreciate each and every performance David does without nitpicking it apart”
i have enjoyed every part of the journey and look forward to all that’s ahead for us lucky people that “get it”. while i do see that the lid is on (and rattling), i am thrilled that i am in a position to see and duck for cover when the lid goes all the way off!
Thanks Lise, for the link..I voted..
valbraz..My Hands..most difficult to sing but David made it seem effortless..loved it!
Today was interesting…Saying g’nite to all, and for David..
Dear Lord, Though we are unworthy to ask,
Please take Care Of David. Watch over him, Protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that’s thrown in his path. Give him the courage and guidance to to say no those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround him with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his ARCHANGELS do. SEPARATE HIM FROM THOSE WHO HAVE AGENDAS OTHER THAN FOR HIS WELLBEING. Give him rest when he’s weary and fatigued. Give him the stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms. Keep him healthy and strong so he can continue fulfilling the Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
This, although we may be unworthy, we humbly pray. Amen.
Sweet dreams David, be safe & secure in our love always! CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR! Take care.
You will always be numero uno in our eyes! Thank you for all you do and for just being you!
Hahaha, #26 quiteblanc:
“The “lid” is just rattling now. Just wait for the goodies coming out patiently”
I love it, I hope the goodies with arrive sooner than later!
Gosh, the thought makes me teary!
Thanks, SF, your prayer is like a virtual night-light.
Valbraz, #143, maybe it’s just that all of us MH fans are too busy hitting “replay” to notice the poll.
Rascal, you grieve me. Nothing David does is ever enough for you. Ever. You want us to trust him – so you say. You want to treat him as an adult – so you say. But you second guess his life choices instead of trusting him to know what is right for him right now. You want him to be more, do more than he is doing right now. His stage presence doesn’t please you. His choice of song doesn’t please you. Yeesh.
David is so wonderful because of the gift he was born with, the gift he recognizes and wants to use for the benefit of others. He’s still a kid. He has a journey ahead of him that will last longer than my life or yours. Let’s let him get there in his own good time. Let’s rejoice over each step instead of demanding more and more and more.
Gosh, I love the young man to pieces… If anyone could make me believe in love again, David “You Can”.
“My Hand” performance is soooooo (can’t find a word to describe it). Dang it, I love all the five performances and the “Dang-Its” band!
Back to listening AOL and VH1 voting!
And #26 quiteblanc, I love your “the lid is rattling”, I hope the goodies will jump out sooner than later!
Sorry I interrupted your discussions with my post of #14O…….but I did make an error……….1OO votes are allowed each day per person……..just don’t want to cheat David…….thanks everyone…….
I think David’s smile(s) say it all.
David and the band are jelling nicely…having backup singer(s) allow David to catch his breath…everything appears to be falling in place for the next step.
Alrighty…if its any consolation, the violins seem to have been kept closeted.
good night SF. Amen
One last “my two cents”…just saw a video Brett talking about David’s best trait. He stated – David’s compassion for others and his complete and utter acceptance of everyone for who they are. Basically said it blows him away. We have all witnessed this on occassion.
But, he also talked about how people mistake David’s “shyness” (his words) for weaknes but that David is very strong-willed; that he is respectful, but strong-willed.
So maybe, we haven’t given our prodigy enough credit. Maybe David is pretty much where David wants to be right now (realizing he does not have total control over everything.) Maybe rattling the lid is enough for him right now, because when the lid comes off, it could be blown to smithereens, and the consequences significant. Pretty major stuff for an almost 18 yr old. Hope this makes sense to someone besides me.
good night all. thanks for the fun.
Amen to Silverfox’s prayer.
Good night everybody.
Wow, Silverfox, that’s a beautiful prayer. And Emmegirl08 you do make alot of sense to me. (yes, it’s me Janhn!)
This has been a very interesting thread…in the end, we are all here to support David and watch him succeed as both a talented musician and young man. It’s going to be a great journey.
emmegirl08 – 151 that kind of puts things into perspective!
All this talk about moving on stage/dancing etc. Great singers don’t need to anything but sing. Frank Sinatra didn’t move, Linda Ronstadt doesn’t move. I don’t think David needs to do anything but sing in the meaningful way that he does that allows us to connect with him. He is in the category of those greats that don’t need to do anything at all other than sing.
I consider these live sessions a beautiful gift. I didn’t ask for it but got it just the same. There is nothing I would have him change about it.
This is him, now.
Thank you David. My Thanksgiving was crappy all day until I listened and watched the AOL sessions. It turned on a dime.
Hurray, Our David ends this year edition of The Count at Musiqtone #1 for 8 straight weeks, holding off David cook in a furious rally.
Now I am going to participate in the new poll “Video of the Year”. I will vote for CRUSH, of course!
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Hurray…. Our David ends this year’s edition of The Count at Musiqtone at #1, making it 8 straight weeks, hold off David cook in a furious rally.
Now I am going to participate in the new poll “video of the Year”. I vote for CRUSH, of course!
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Great thread and great posts from everyone!
The reason I made this site as the main one I come in to read many times a day is, this site is both “Ying” and “Yang” as someone coined earlier (was it Kizzi?). Some sites are so extremely inclinated to only one of this elements that I never want to go there again.
Some threads Rascal made us very happy and some that grieved many (depending on how you look at it). Whether we like it or not, we have to admire his conviction and courage. From my own personal experience, if you hate the first read, read it again and you will realize that you may have to re-assess your initial reaction.
Rascal’s threads are very thought provoking and he doesn’t play “Quangxi” (connections); he says what he thinks and he doesn’t use other people’s names (perceived to be influential) to back up his opinions (this practice is very intimidating, IMHO)
When somebody disagreed (at times very combative) with Rascal, he doesn’t speculate on his/her source or imply that he/she is a proxy or something. He faces him/her straights on and argues/clarifies on the issues being raised.
And he allows us to be freakingly hilarious in his house but of course he knows when and how to rein us in when necessary (introducing a new thread quickly maybe) hahaha.
Thanks, Rascal. And all Angels at ND.
Hurray…. Our David ends this year’s edition of The Count at Musiqtone at #1, making it 8 straight weeks, hold off David cook in a furious rally.
Now I am going to participate in the new poll “video of the Year”. I vote for CRUSH, of course
Hi everyone especially the graveyard shifters!
Was away the whole day, hope I didn’t miss much. I don;t think this has been posted – A FAN ACCOUNT OF DAVID’S PARTICIPATION IN THE 2ND GEN OSMOND CONCERT:
“Attended concert at Capital Theatre last night (Saturday Eve). David was introduced toward the end of the concert–a complete surprise to most. The Osmonds said they were missing a younger brother who was away on an LDS mission and so had recruited a high school kid to come and do his part in their bell song. In came David with a tiny bell. (loud cheers) He stood on the end of the line smiling and shrugging while all the brothers, each with two larger bells, played the Christmas song–no part for David. Finally as the song ended David was supposed to ring his little bell. There was a moment of silence just before, when someone from the audience yelled “I love you, David!” He laughed and rang his bell.
David did not sing any songs alone. After the bell presentation he sang with the Osmonds in a medley of three songs, “O Holy Night”, “Mary, Did You Know?” and (I think) “Amazing Grace”. He was, however, featured and sang some lines by himself. After the medley he left the stage and the Osmonds sang some additional numbers. The songs sung with David were not listed on the program.
David looked happy and gracious as always.
BTW, a fan that goes by the name of CrayonsAreCoolio posted at the youtube comment section that she/he has 2 videos that she/he will be uploading soon.
Miscellaneous note before I go to bed: David is swiftly losing ground on the musiqtone “video of the year” even as I type. You’re allowed 100 votes a day for this one, apparently. I’ve put in my daily 100. Anybody wanting to help David on that one should go vote. (That means you, too, Lurkers!
) Nite!
http://musiqtone.com/music/thecount/voting.php
Hi Rascal! Welcome Back!
Usually I agree with most of what you say about David but in this thread I have to disagree wholeheartedly. I refreshed continually for days waiting with bated breath for your take on the AOL Sessions. To say I was disappointed is putting it mildly. If you don’t mind my saying so but I sense an underlying frustration from you when it comes to David and most of his performances be it on a live show, taped – AOL or his CD. It seem as if you see more for David and want him to get there without his growing pains.
, enjoy the here and now from David. He will lift the lid as his life experiences grow.
David comes from a sheltered background and has mostly performed in tightly-structured concerts. He cannot overnight go from 0 to 100 on the basis of 1 tour, a cd and a handful of live appearances. Granted he has made huge strides this past year but until he is living a truly independent and mature life and in a position to make decisions on his own, we should not fret about where he should be. I teach students his age on a daily basis and they range from childlike to too grown – if you know what I mean, and I always say to them – take your time to enjoy your youth because what waits on the other side is a lifetime of ups and downs.
So please, pretty please with a cherry on top
David is losing to Underwood for Video of the Year over at MUSIQTONE. It seems that SOME OTHER fan base is helping her out so that our David won’t win for Video of the Year!
We need everyone to vote 1OO votes over there every day until January 24! The voting goes fast…………………….please help………………………>>>>>>>>>> http://musiqtone.com/music/thecount/voting.php
IMO, rascal wrote this because he loves David soooo much… everytime David reached one level, rascal immediately moves his expectation to the next point. He is the harshest archies in this world, lol, I believe when David performs consistently as rascal expected, he conquers the world, muscially.
I love the AOL sessions, because David is so green… I would like to remember the green, incorrupt David, which delivered the performances by his pace. You know, he couldn’t be that pure forever.
163 beebee or 165 lise, i’ve been voting on musiqtone as requested.
what exactly is musiqtone? what impact do they have on the recording industry? how will our votes impact david? (eg, does he get an award from them? a feature on their website?, etc.)
thx in advance!
I’ve been voting @ Musiqtone as well, but am wondering the same thing as ebonyangel…..
It’s obvious that there is a plot to keep David from winning. That bothers me, because it seems organized.
Maybe people just really like Carries video that much. Call me crazy but I really don’t see a conspiracy here. How do people know this?
BTW – As the mother of an Iraq War Veteran, her song really touches me. I won’t be voting for it though – I would love to see David win.
#151-Yes!! Beautiful post. I plan to enjoy each and every step along this journey that is David Archuleta. He does not, can not or will not ever disappoint me. Not musically nor as a human being.
If his only gift was his magical voice then that would be enough, but the fact that he has so much compassion for the human race causes my heart to belong to him forever.
Living for today and savoring every single second.
Joymus #169 & Josie #175: Yes!! and Yesss!
Josie #175: I’m not supposed to even be lurking, but I decided to lurk for a minute before getting to work. Your post made me delurk and comment.
Love what you said and I feel exactly the same way.
I’ve listened to the AOL sessions today (another thing I’m not supposed to be doing) and, frankly, I can’t imagine a seventeen year old boy being more open with his gift or his heart.
#121 Kizzi, oh… just finished my late meeting with my US colleagues and read your response. Thanks. Actually, I get the idea from from my favourite band, the vocalist said ‘I don’t take any performance as a last show, I think about the audience. I might have 53 shows, however, that might be their ONLY one, I want to give them a good show experience, so I have to give all I have.’ And I believe this logic fits more David.
It’s hard to keep your voice when you are on tour, it’s very hard!!! However, it’s the job of a vocalist, not to be laid-back in the show, but keep it after-show. So, personally I don’t agree David talks too much when he is on tour, because talking hurts your voice, and you have to sleep, keep your hotel room humid… blah blah blah… a lot of work, and most of the time, you are alone (except you have 2 vocalists in one band). Singer actually is a lonely and stressful job.
Besty, you got me thinking. This is why I hate the voting and the polls because they only bring out the competitiveness in people and it’s so subjective. I don’t watch videos. The only reason it’s even on my radar is because of David. That is also why I wanted to know why this particular poll was important. I don’t want to do something just for bragging rights.
That being said, there is no way that only Carrie’s and David’s fans are participating in the poll. That is why it seems odd to me. There are no other fanbases voting. Why not?
I might have to seek out Carrie’s video. My husband served in Iraq for 18 months. Then again, it may hit too close to home….
I am going to delurk today. I haven’t posted at this site forever, and I feel compelled to do so today. I must say that I am enamored with the AOL sessions. I can’t get enough of them! ODD to the max!
I find it interesting that some of you think that David can only be creatively stimulated and gain life experiences by living in certain cities. Life experiences occur wherever you are living. Having lived in many different places varying in size and culture, I have had wonderful rich life changing experiences in each and every one. Size didn’t matter. Demographics didn’t matter. Experiences and opportunities where there to be had, not all good and not all bad, but each one shaping and forming me into becoming me! Looking back now, I treasure those times in the so called “small sheltered” environments just as much as the hustle and bustle of the big cities. Creativity is inbred in a person. It isn’t stifled in Murray, Utah, anymore than it is nourished in New York. David has tremendous talent. He will have his life experiences wherever he chooses to be.
I love the lyrics to the song Small Town by John Mellancamp. He is reflecting on growing up in a small town. Here is a part of that song:
I was born in a small town.
I can breathe in a small town.
Ive seen it all in a small town
Had myself a ball in a small town.
No I cannot forget where it is that I come from
I cannot forget the people who love me
Yeah, I can be myself here in this small town
And people let me be just what I want to be.
To me this song so very simply says that growing up in a small town wasn’t all bad, and that returning to that small town where you are accepted for who you were before you became somebody famous is a good thing. Perhaps David feels that staying close to home right now is a good thing for him. I really do think that underneath his childlike innocence there is a wise soul.
brooklyn dawn it will hit too close to home. Be prepared.
Josie, beebee, Erin, Joymus…I couldn’t agree more with you.
From that first unforgettable moment I laid eyes on David last January, until the release of AOL Sessions my reaction to everything David has shown me by way of performance or interview has been consistent and never changing. I view what he offers as a gift…from his musical soul and humble heart to me.
What first caught my eye during Hollywood Week was the simplicity of his performance. Just David, a keyboard, a mic and a song. It took nothing else to capture my admiration. Some of my other favorite performances are equally bare bones….David and Dean in Utah doing WOTWTC , hospital Angels, Ford Day Imagine, and of course Somebody Out There.
josie and joymus… amen
TOfan .. loved “To me, every great artist, regardless of age, upbringing or life experience, shares one fundamental gift — in their very bones they carry an understanding of what it means to be human.”
Some may assume that David has not experienced much ,but just by his ablilty to convey such depth and emotion in his music I believe he has experienced, perhaps not personally, but through situations around him, the pain and sadness that are part of life. I think David has much empathy for people who hurt and draws a lot from stories he has heard from the life experiences of others. To me it does not appear that David is living a life “with the lid on”, seems more to me that he is wide open … to all experiences.
What i love about he AOL’s is I feel so personally involved , as if he is singing to me.. (others have shared that as well) and I look forward to the solo concert tour when I’m sure we’ll get the “group” experience and David will feed off of our love for him.
ref…thank you for reminding me of TOfan’s post. I agree with both of you as well.
One only has to look at the lyrics of Falling to understand the level of emotion David feels whether he is viewing life through his own or experiences of someone else.
Nicely written review, Rascal.
I think David is a consummate balladeer. He’s just so exceptional in this area that we expect the same excellence in another genre.
But in the up/midtempo pop genre, it requires a different skill/talent that David hasn’t acquired yet. Sure he can sing the hell out of those songs, but he doesn’t apply the appropriate approach to them. He still performs them like they’re torch ballads, as opposed to witty, hip-pop numbers. He lacks humour, joy, playfulness and even “attitude” that these types of tracks work best with. (He showed that he has these qualities in “Shop Around”, albeit a bit clunkily).
A lot of ppl tend to jeer at pop artists like Madonna, Beyonce, Chris Brown for their style-over-substance singing and performing, but they have the kind of “genius” that David doesn’t (yet) have, a sense of self/bravado/confidence outside of vocal ability (which David has plenty of). This quality is what give their performances life and openness. When David sings, he loses himself in the music (which is emotionally effective in ballads), but pop music performances are a TWO-WAY communication. It’s a give-and-take exchanges between the performer and the audience (or camera). And this requires the performer to be very comfortable with who they are (or at least what their image is).
I’m not sure if David will ever grow in personal confidence to possess that attitude in the future, but that is something that he will only gain through life and experience. We either have to be patient or just focus on what he currently does best.
So for now, I will put AOL’s “You Can” on repeats, while ignoring the other four tracks.
I’m a newbie here, but I love the blog. As for David’s “lid on” style in the AOL Sessions, this is a combination of two things – Studio work, and his lack of familiarity with these songs.
You can watch the way he comes to own a song by watching the progression of maturity from the first AI tour videos to his last in Tulsa. Compare Stand By Me from the AI show to Tulsa and you can see that when he really knows a song, he can improvise, add those beautiful runs, and change it up instantly.
In the interview for the AOL Sessions he says these were hard for him because he was used to doing them in a studio – pieces and parts taped and culled together for the CD. I think we’ll see these songs take on more of a “David feel” when he gets to do them on tour next year.
I do think he’s being “managed” into the typical tean-pop style for now, but when he he gains some experience and has an opportunity to put more of himself into his recordings, we’ll see a different style emerge – one that is uniquely David.
heavyblow -
You blew off “Crush” which is making a great showing as a hip-pop mid-tempo song with the music buying public and even graded well by music reviewers.
Also, check out “Touch My Hands” on AOL Sessions as there is attitude galore.
And, although I would have predicted prior to Sessions that I’d be the first to say I love David’s ballads, I find that in the AOL Sessions, I personally prefer the mid-tempo pop songs to “You Can.”
Kizzi – I have an interesting exchange to tell.
I was promoted about 7 weeks ago and moved to an entirely new place. New people, new attitudes, etc.
Just last week we were leaving the store and I pulled out my David cd to play in my car. (I try to keep it out of the cold!)
A really young girl that works for me saw it and went crazy. She found David through his song Crush on the radio – she was not a prior fan. She said she looks for it every time she gets in her car and turns on the radio. Now she is talking about how beautiful his lips are.
Sometimes I think I am a music snob. I just needed to see a casual listener turn into an ODD’r. It’s probably happening all over.
Kizzi, you pulled me out of “archulurking” to say that I couldn’t agree with you more! I too love the ballads, but after the AOL sessions (which are absolutely FANTASTIC), I am now loving “My Hands” and “Touch My Hands” more & more! It’s amazing how David & his “beloved” songs (ALL of them) can reach out and touch your heart beyond anything imaginable!
(And good to see you!)
Rascal #82 – Was asleep at the switch and missed your post last night….
It goes without saying that you, from very early on, have been an advocate of David’s wonderful vocal styling. I love “on the ARTISTRY of David Archuleta” that you have on your front page….it kind of says it all!
You commented:
“However… He is doing straight-up pop material now: mass-market, rock-tinged radio fare that demands a certain highly-focused energy, the kind of energy that David will undoubtedly get from a live audience, but which is still evidently somewhat elusive to him without it.”
There’s bound to be a different vibe when he’s not performing in front of a live audience which is why he chose to direct all of his focus and energy towards his vocals in the Sessions performances. I don’t think he should have to manufacture “highly-focused energy” in a studio scenario that doesn’t warrant it. I don’t think the energy was necessarily “elusive” to him, I think given the venue, it would have seemed a bit misplaced and almost disingenuous which is why I believe his “understated” delivery was appropriate here.
As far as outside the studio and in front of live audiences, he’s proven that he draws energy from the crowd that translates into his performances.
I get the feeling sometimes that people want him to “morph” into the same “pop” delivery style of his peers and I don’t agree with that. He needs to deliver at a level he feels genuine and comfortable with, and for him, that “style” may be the understated “subtlety and nuance” that you and I (oh my heck…ALL of us) are so enamored with. It’s who he is right now…it’s real and it’s honest.
If at some point he decides to become the energizer bunny on stage, then it should be on his own terms, not dictated by an attempt to clone him into a “mass-market” facade.
He may not sell as many albums staying true to his own style, but somehow I think he’d be OK with that…I know I would.
Kizzi
I was talking about the live performances, not so much the recordings. Quite a few tracks in the CD (especially the bonus ones), he acquitted himself nicely.
Betsy – wonderful story. Thanks for sharing. I have one to share back.
I was in the lobby of a hotel this weekend and Crush was playing (Saturday night). I jauntily congratulated the Concierge on a great choice of music (a 40′ish year old gentleman)-I think I am so funny at times (rolls eyes)…. And then…he grinned at me and asked if I had ODD as he has it too and he plays the CD & bonus songs from Walmart and iTunes overhead as much as he can…I was sputtering and studdering…talk about blindsided. Guess David isn’t my well kept cybersecret anymore–LOL.
Hey everyone! Hope everyone had a great holiday weekend. I’m catching up on my ODD, now that I had a sizable break from it, and the AOL sessions and Rascal’s review are a wonderful opportunity for return.
I see what you mean, Rascal, about David keeping a “lid on”, but I really see that as David trying to fit into this pop music scene and also trying to fit his songs. Honestly, he’s just getting started.
I believe all of us here know the power of “David Unleashed,” but is there really room for that here? I think he’s still trying to find some solid ground and some wiggle room, and I’m willing to give him the time and space to grow. He’s 17, and he’s got a jam-packed schedule. That he can still do a passable job at connecting (at any level) with his songs in this live-recorded session stint – considering all the different appearances he made just in the past month – is good enough for me at this point.
BTW, I actually took some of my young relatives to the MACY’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, just so I could see David live, and I MISSED THE MOMENT!
I could’ve stayed home and watch him from my tele. But, that’s okay. The you tube videos are cool.
Take care everyone!
heavyblow:
I found the AOL Sessions versions preferable to the CD as most are saying on this thread and other fan threads.
Enjoyment of performance art is in the eye of the beholder, isn’t it?
Hi Heart: I have missed you while you are in your contemplative state. Yeah, the AOL Sessions made me take notice of those mid-tempo pop songs with a new appreciation.
Can’t wait til the Jingle Jam/Ball in Atlanta. Am trying to fit in Atlanta.
#195 *fit in Albany
Kizzi, if you get to “fit in Albany,” hope to see you there!
HI HG – I missed your comments. Love your avatar! It will be last minute as I am in Hartford CT that day and will have to drive to get there. I’ll let you know but will probably be last minute.
This is so informative…type it on youtube please as I am havng trouble with it…Mormon Exposed-Famous Mormons & Mormon…
There are so many geat people there and of course David is among them…
Kizzi, you can distinguish the audio-only and audio+visual impact? I’m talking abt the David’s visual performance. It’s lacking for me. There’s something inert about them, even if he tried his best.
He’s not fully comfortable at communicating onstage, especially for the upbeat tunes. But hopefully that comfort will come in time. Or maybe that he just has to perform these original songs of his more often.
hey Kizzi! Good luck with making the Albany concert. And thanks for your comments on my avatar (although, if you’ve emptied out your cache, you will see I have yet another new one!).
HG – Is that the Larry King interview?
Yep, that’s from LK Live!
Found this interesting commentary about AOL Sessions on IDF – Soundscene who is a highly regarded poster there and in the music industry:
“The audio is recorded directly from the mics of David and the band. The audio and video are recorded separately. The audio is taken, it is mixed and mastered. I doubt they autotune the vocals (or we would see that more often with others). They might increase or decrease the volume, which may or may not have an effect on the tonal quality of the vocals.
They then take the mixed and mastered audio and overlay it on the video, sometimes resulting in the video looking like the sound isn’t actually coming directly from David’s mouth. The same technique is used with live concert DVDs because video recording equipment cannot pick up the sound correctly, nor would they want to have to separate the audio from the video after the fact.
So are the vocals messed with? Yes. Did they autotune David? I doubt it. Does David sound awesome live? Most definitely! Did he do a better job with his Sessions than most artists? Yes”
http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=585380&st=1200
Post #1218
Heavyblow #185, You’re right that David takes simple pop songs and imbues them with meaning and resonance, but I think you’re mistaking David’s intensity for “torch song” balladeering.
The performers you mention rely on style over substance because that is their strength. Instead of David masking his substance to match their style, I really hope the opposite happens. Because as far as “two-way communication” goes, I can’t think of many pop stars today that outdo David in that department.
Betsy #188 & Kizzi #192, LOVE your stories!
Today I have been mulling over this article and its feedback …. I needed time to think and absorb it.
As a mother I remember how excited I was when my babies started to crawl but so quickly I was anxious for them to walk, after walking I waited impatiently for them to talk to me. I was also eagerly anticipating the time when they would sleep through the night. It seemed I was always wishing/ looking for the next stage…
but as my babies are now older BIG kids… I look back and think …why was I in such a hurry? Those precious times sped by way to fast never to return.
For me when we are longing for what is to come we seem to miss out in the joy of the NOW.
I know there are great … brilliant things to come from David….I am positive of that.
I loved the AOL sessions… I loved them, David’s glorious voice, his beautiful face, just everything about them… right where he is right now singing the songs he is singing just makes me very happy..
I am so proud of all that David has accomplished thus far. I know he will continue to learn and grow as time passes and I am excited to see what is to come … all the while enjoying the right now.
TOfan, or he can be both, like Elton John.
Ojs-my sentiments exactly.
I am the consummate analyzer and some of my friends and colleagues do see that as a real PAIN. So please bear with me…
I have been reviewing the AOL sessions with as an objective eye as I can muster and I have been looking for restraint. And, for me, I can’t identify restraint as the overarching performance dynamic; rather, I see vulnerability. That plus David’s voice is what makes his artistry so uniquely splendid.
Lucky Angel, you had mentioned about the comment that David can be creative/get experience only by living in certain places. I can’t speak for other posters, but I made one of the comments that traveling and experiencing different cities will give him more life experience. What I was trying to get at is by living in different places, he can be exposed to more diversity and beliefs. I have not been to his hometown, but I have a feeling that it is at least somewhat homogeneous: politically, socially, religiously.
I like to use Clay Aiken as an example. Clay has said that when he lived in L.A., it was the first time he met gay people who were “normal.” Growing in his Southern town, gay people were taunted or stereotyped, but living in a different place helped Clay see that people from all walks of life, and there are different versions of truth wherever you go.
Also, of course you don’t necessarily have to live in a place to experience. Reading is definitely a great education, and it sounds like David’s musical tastes that he follows people from many walks of life, so that is great exposure, too.
Heavyblow #207: Yes!! Like Elton, David’s a leader, not a follower, and will set his own standard, for sure.
Ojs759, great perspective — “the now” is something else, isn’t it?
ojs, beautiful, just beautiful.
Kizzi, #209, I think you nailed it right there “I see vulnerability.”
I’ve been thinking about everyone’s comments all day, and I relate to both sides of this discussion. I’ve said from Day 1 what I love most about David’s voice is when he power nails those middle range notes while performing his ballad type songs His ability to hold these notes is astounding, and just grand to witness. And not everyone can do this, as we’ve heard Dean Kaelin say. Maybe we’ve been spoiled since early AI days listening to all the ballads and power notes and then again during tour. Speaking of which, someone on here said today that David was able to perfect these ballads as time went on and by the time Tulsa came along, it was Grand Slam time. Also, consider that all this was in front of a live audience every time, so enter the emotional factor of engaging with the audience, etc. etc.
Regarding the AOL sessions, perhaps David didn’t feel comfortable or feel a connection for putting on a blood, sweat, and tears performance. You’re not singing to people, you’re singing to cameras and lights. I don’t know, we’re still trying to peel back those layers and figure David out, and maybe that’s what makes him so interesting to us. That element of mystery – just like the Kennedy’s had.
Whatever David gives us is just fine with me. OMG, WAY more than fine, it’s glorious. What a ride……..
Heavyblow — Thanks for checking in, you know I always appreciate your comments and, as is so often the case, you added significant new dimension to my premise and to the thoughts expressed through the comments here. I think you’re dead-on about that “pop sensibility,” and that’s probably why David prefers to liken himself to artists like John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Eva Cassidy and the like, because they are also not of that mold… The difference here is the material…
Lucky Angel, I totally understand and appreciate your post!
Heavyblow#185, you raise a thought-provoking point here, but repeat viewings have made me rethink much of the criticism here.
I don’t know about others, but I honestly don’t care that David doesn’t have that “pop bravado” thing going. I am a fan of the vocal master, and that’s where David can take me to those wonderful faraway places with his stunning voice.
For the first time, watching the AOL Sessions version of “My Hands,” I actually have an appreciation for that song. It was my least favorite track on the album, and hearing David’s vocal spin on it here just really helped me delve into the song and really appreciate his subtleties and nuances. The boy can sing, and he can stand still or sit down or hover over the mic stand, I don’t give a good gosh dang what he’s doing. I can get lost in his voice, the way he obviously gets lost in the music.
Where the Beyonces and Britneys and Chris Browns need the whole pop performance to sell a song, David just needs the voice. I was watching all the different AOL sessions videos, and I keep going back to each one because it’s him doing what he does best (sing), and that’s enough for me. He can close his eyes and stand there, and his voice does the work for me. And when he ends with his sweet sweet smile, I just melt like butter.
Heavyblow, you say “pop music performances are a TWO-WAY communication. It’s a give-and-take exchanges between the performer and the audience (or camera). And this requires the performer to be very comfortable with who they are (or at least what their image is).”
I would say the performer needs to be comfortable with his performance, more than with who he is, and it is clear to me, the way David sings, that he’s very comfortable with his singing, how he chooses to sing, when he chooses to inflect or raise his falsetto, etc. “Touch My Hand,” that performance was so beautiful – do I care that he’s not moving much? Um, hello?! After those gorgeous falsettos, who the heck cares if he’s performing to the camera or the audience!
I’m lost in the vocals! His voice transports me…when I hear these kinds of criticisms of his performance, I cannot help but feel that this is what decades of music-video-watching and music-as-spectacle spectacles have wrought. When did we forget the thrill, the simple thrill of The Voice?
And, let’s face it: David is shy and humble at his core, I don’t think this is going to change, and so this requires that the audience accept such vocal prowess performed and delivered in an introspective manner. When I finally see him perform live, I’ll have a better assessment of whether or not this will work or not, but as far as the AOL sessions are concerned, I thought he was awesome!
I once said on this blog that someone like David is going to have to learn how to MAGNIFY his persona, to bring that intimate connection he has with his fans, with his friends, etc. and project that intimacy in a public manner. Obviously, he has room for growth here. But such magnification will not require him to be less shy or humble, only to be more conscious of projecting his introspective manner on a larger scale.
*Goes back to watch some more videos.*
# 180 Lucky Angel,
Good point. I feel that being places is a great way of broadening your experience of the world and people. But I do believe an artist, to some extent, inhabits their own universes. So yes, Murray hasn’t crippled David in any way.
Was it Tolstoi who recommended a young writer of ambitious dreams that ‘if you want to be universal you should sing your village’?- Sorry, I’m translating from Portuguese here – the point being you don’t have to be cosmopolitan to touch souls universally with your art, whatever it is, writing or singing.
There’s a lot of discussion on that we should take David as he is now, and of course we should. The only reason why I’m speaking my frustrations is because we all want David’s career to develop in “the right direction”, because the world of marketing is cruel: you don’t get a second chance. Much of the material David is doing now is, IMO, not exactly worthy of his talents; the songs aren’t bad, but they don’t give him the space to do what he did in the covers on AI. As Rascal said in an earlier post, the t(w)een-oriented marketing his label does could make it more difficult for David to be taken seriously as an artist in the future.
What I had to say on the connection between the “lid” in non-singing life and in singing life was not really about life experiences. I was talking more about allowing or not allowing certain tendencies you have in yourself to show. When you have to restrain yourself in normal life, this could also influence your musical life. But I don’t think that having experienced all the things that happen in a song is necessary to connect with the song deeply (as David has proven many times).
Hi Rascal! Welcome back! And might I say “Yikes!” You are quite the harsh task master!!! I understand where you’re coming from, though! I realize that you know that David has huge potential and are frustrated waiting for it all to come tumbling out in spite of the limitations that are so obviously placed on him. But I am in agreement with the majority when I say that I LOVE the AOL sessions performances, especially “You Can.” Even though David is not worldly or jaded, his music and passion for his art are able to create meaning and depth, even if his experiences do not bear out the stories behind the songs. Yes, I would like to see him perform with greater abandon, but I don’t want David to be untrue to himself. I truly believe that once he becomes more comfortable with being in the spotlight, he will loosen up. After all, he is only 17 and has such a tremendous talent to share. As for right now, David’s ability to touch hearts and souls with his voice and character far outshines anyone else’s and I am thoroughly enjoying what he has to offer in the here and now. We need to trust David…and we need to be patient!
hello gorgeous 215—- great post !!!!!!!!!
Hello Gorgeous–I’m with you 110%. I am thrilled with David’s performances on the AOL Sessions. Suits me just fine. Love him. I don’t need show or abandon when I listen to his heavenly voice.
Haven’t had time to catch up on posts, and I had to go see David’s awesome, wonderful, stupendous, out of this world sessions..also found this info about the “secret concert” if you haven’t heard yet…
LOS ANGELES, Dec 01, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ — Media entrepreneur, television and radio host Ryan Seacrest and real estate investor and philanthropist John Bendheim will be honored by the Cedars-Sinai Board of Governors at their annual “Road To A Cure” Gala, December 2, 2008, at the Hyatt Regency Century Plaza hotel. Rick Powell, Chairman of the Board of Governors, co-chairs the event with Debbee Klein Schwartz, Aaron Kaplan and Fran Solomon. The “Road To A Cure” Gala is sponsored by Lexus, which has donated a 2009 Lexus LS 600h L hybrid luxury sedan for an opportunity drawing during the event. Oscar-winner Lionel Richie and David Archuleta will perform; Larry King will host.
BBL!!
HG – Said so well.
HG #215, Loved your post. For me too it is all about the VOICE. I turn on the CD player on my way to work in the morning and the voice comes on and soothes every cell in my body, every care in my soul. I am driving along with a goofy grin of happiness on my face.
I too love “My Hands” on the sessions and I am melting away with you when he smiles at the end.
As you said, it’s “the thrill, the simple thrill of The Voice.”
#215 HG – Bravissimo!
#211 SF – A “healing” voice will sing for the “Road to A Cure” – how fitting.
David’s album is selling well in his 3rd week with 37% of the HDD data in today. And it is not ODD’ers buying it at this juncture, but new fans. It could go Gold by Jan 1 or shortly thereafter. We aren’t the target demographic (sigh) and I strongly suspect that Jive isn’t that interested in our reactions to David’s music, positive or negative.
Kizzi -#192 I meant to say earlier that I loved your hotel story. It’s like we all belong to a secret society (ODD), but it’s not so secret anymore haha!
Loving the discussions and great comments in this thread.
And now for something completely different… :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CbkKEb5FFM
I’m back..didn’t wanna leave though..didn’t wanna leave David..I cannot get enough! I have fallen in love with THE VOICE all over again! **sigh** I could die of pure bliss! Ok, I had slapped myself out of my euphoria!
And how about David being “invited” to perform at the GALA honoring Seacrest? Wasn’t Seacrest a Cook backer? And isn’t it ironic that Lionel Richie is the other performer..cuz Cook’s cover of Lionel’s “Hello” turned the tide towards Cook by the judges on AI, if I remember correctly…Seems to me, they want THE CLASS & THE VOICE when it comes to big events such as this..
not meaning to bring up “competition” again..cuz there’s none when it comes to who’s got it..Class & THE VOICE, that is. I’m jus’ sayin’..
HG #215 -
“Where the Beyonces and Britneys and Chris Browns need the whole pop performance to sell a song, David just needs the voice. I was watching all the different AOL sessions videos, and I keep going back to each one because it’s him doing what he does best (sing), and that’s enough for me.”
Yes!!…I feel like the invisible woman here today. (See #190)…don’t try to morph him into somebody else.
TOfan..that was so cute and funny! And that mom is raising those kids right by exposing them to David’s music early!! Good for her!
I was wondering when and how you would weigh in on this one, HG, and you have done so with insight, elegance, and exuberance. Hats off to you!
And may I take this opportunity to express how honored and grateful I feel to have such thoughtful and passionate people congregating together under my little roof. But make no mistake: I am well aware that the foundation and the pillars that hold up our little tent have been laid by the grand and glorious Voice, the One, the Weaver of Souls, the great David Archuleta.
Lest anyone believe I do not salute him in every measure, let it be known now: His artistry is a wonder to behold.
rascal #230,
I just had to tell you how much I love what you said – so very heartfelt.
Rascal, it is a wonder, indeed.
Dang it, Rascal. You said that good!
dear rascal, I hope you have more moments of honor and gratitude than annoyance and exasperation as we, the passionate people under your roof, grapple with your posts.
This is one of those moments when I am filled to the brim with joy to be part of this ride, this journey with our Weaver of Souls.
Rascal, you couldn’t offer such careful and meticulous criticism of our David if you didn’t love him and have great, deep respect for his artistry.
“The Weaver of Souls” has woven us together here under your roof, and for that we are truly grateful!
Thanks for your feedback, everyone, and SF, I too found it ironic that David and Lionel Richie are performing at the same function when it was his “Hello” that made Cook a frontrunner. So much irony here.
And, I thought it was a running joke that Ryan Seacrest had a “crush” on our David, no?
HG – Can I get a witness?!!!
Oh rascal..you made me cry again! Without your welcoming home, where would we be, where else could we be so open & honest? I’m the one who is honored just to be a part of this ND family. THANK YOU!
HG..Seacrest had a “crush” on David? Maybe. If he did, who could blame him? And come to think..he always did like to put his hand on David after his performances, and he never did that with the others, did he?? hmmmm!
SMANDA hit it so well! we all love rascal’s sharings, but not when he is frustrated and complaining about the phase that david james is in right now. the kid has made decisions and would make decisions, as how a young man discovers and experiences his todays. i look forward to sharings that are appreciative and positive. i don’t quite get why a few of us criitcize, when all the kid wants to do is share his talents. david james is amazing and a pure, sublime talent that continues to inspire.
SF, I remember reading that somewhere (must have been over at IDF). And yeah, who could blame him?
Juliebug, Amen!
BTW, HG..I missed you! I was on pins & needles waiting for Rascal & you to critique THE SESSIONS..I so wanted the both of you to LOVE David! I don’t know if you’ve had a chance to read the posts from Thankgiving Day…We all were in ARCHUHEAVEN!!
Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
LiZ…TWO more days! have you started counting the hours & minutes til D-Day?? haha!
SF Archuheaven, a nice place to be!
Two more days! I need one of those countdown widgets!
Aww, Rascal #230, *sniff*. Several posters have mentioned appreciating “the now” of David — thanks for raising your “little roof” here so we can do just that.
Joner #228, invisible? Never. Keep that whistle blowin’!
SF, I had a really nice Thanksgiving (even though I missed seeing David! Ironically by going to the parade so I could see him live!).
I haven’t looked at the Thanksgiving Day posts, I need more time to catch up on those 500+ comments!
It’s time for me to sign off since I have a very early start tomorrow morning. G’nite all!
HG~ welcome back….You said you went to the parade to see David and missed him??..how could that be…you are a NYer ..correct..??…That surprised me…!!sorry!..You are going to Albany.. right??… You do know it is Standing Room Only..no real seats..tables and booths,bar area and open floor..should be interesting..I wonder if it is sold out..I may call to see…and if they allow cameras.??…
HG ~ look like I just missed you….
Oh yeah, I forgot!! We broke a ND posting record! Haha!
One of my posts was #500! It was such a good day!
And today is almost over, and I have to say g’nite all!
And for David..( another reason to thank you, rascal, for allowing me to post the Prayer for David )…
Dear Lord, Though we are unworthy to ask,
Please take Care Of David. Watch over him, Protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to to say no those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his ARCHANGELS do. SEPARATE DAVID FROM THOSE WHO HAVE AGENDAS OTHER THAN FOR HIS WELLBEING. Keep David healthy and strong. Give him rest when he’s weary and fatigued. Give him the stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms. Continue to guide David as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
This, though we may be unworthy, humbly pray. Amen.
Sweet dreams David, be safe & secure in our love always! Take care. You will always be numero uno in our eyes! Thank you for all you do and for just being you!
CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR!
SF – I love that prayer every single day. Thank you.
And Rascal #230 – Thanks for that, too. You know how I feel about YOU – even when I feel extremely cranky about what you say.
For the record, I don’t want any unicorns or rainbows or whatever – I just want David to receive his honest praise when it is deserved. He works so dang hard to please us – he practically kills himself to please us. And the way he pleases us most is just by being our David.
Wonderfuls posts from everyone here. I have been enjoying them immensely. Awestruck# 70- Thank you so much for the link to Bianca’s blog on TeamArchies. I believe it helps shed understanding on the yin and yang of David Archuleta. The AOL session of “Crush” has just a little taste of the yin-yang. All through out the song, David is every inch a professional performer, but once the song ends, that sweet smile of his pops up. Hello Gorgeous, I always love to read your posts. Alexei #217, Thank you for your post also, while reading it, I got the feeling of someone who really does care about what can happen to David.
Reading all these posts, I didn’t feel like I had anything new to contribute, until talk went towards David’s home in Murray.
I am a native Utahn and until recently, a Murrayite. I know some articles has not presented Murray as it truly is. When I read Billboards latest article, I cracked up while reading about “tiny” Murray, Utah. While the city only has over 46,000, Murray is smack dab in the middle of the Salt Lake Valley, which has over a million people. Murray was mostly the working class part of the valley, with a giant smelter as its focal point. Funny piece of history, Murray became a city after a riot and a fire broke out in a local saloon. I guess the proper folks didn’t want to associate with the smelter workers and miners. (Mostly non- Mormon). I know to the outside world, Utah is seen as very homogeneous, but, I am happy to say, diversity has been showing up more & more here. (we do have a gay-pride day parade) and I have no doubt that David has met people of many different races, religions sexual preferences and political persuasions. Pax
http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/top_20_countdown/vote.jhtml
P.S. I’m also happy to say, Murray is mostly Democrat.
One of the reasons I wanted to stay there.
Just wanted to chime into second what cutter12 had to say – as I have family (who are Mormons and Democrats) in Murray as well as family (who are Democrats and not Mormons and are gay) near Murray.
I went to the July 4th parade in Murray with family this summer – there was a very LARGE Obama float that received cheers all round (as well as the really cute Murray High Cheerleaders!)
So there ya go, for whatever it’s worth. .
The past 3 days have been so enjoyable – between the critiques and subsequent responses, I’ve been thoroughly entertained. I truly appreciate the knowledgable and eloquently written posts.
For me David is the VOICE. Always has been & always will be. The fact that he is such a beautiful person (inside and out) makes it even more pleasurable. My minute understanding of music is purely sensual & somewhat spirtual. Because his gift has been a transcental experience, any new song, appearnce (live or studio) or AOL session leaves me in total bliss. It’s like an early Christmas gift that keeps giving. I’m sure there are areas in need of growth but I’m actually enjoying watching this whole process develop. He’s so true to character that whatever he experiences (like joy, relief, dissappointment), you can actually feel it. And yes, his empathy & emotion for others can be felt in his music, as well.
Though I have yet to experience David live (and I do so envy all who have), I’ve promised myself I will, soon. Until then, thanks to all at ND for keeping me informed & in touch.
Hi Rascal!
This perennial lurker is coming out of lurkdom for this present post of yours. Just wonderin’, did you eat a bad turkey for thanksgiving? I could feel your frustration while reading your post. I thought you must have some kind of indigestion or something lol. I must have come from a different planet. I totally adore all his performances. I think he did great in all of them. I kept checking here to see what your take on the AOL performances and I thought you would be gushing like most of us. But I suppose somebody has got to be the fly on the steed to keep him out of his comfort zone. Looking forward to rosier reviews from you in the future. Can’t force the Archuleta. He has to do it on his own pace. Besides, when these were recorded, he just barely learned to sing these songs with the band. the stage too was too small to be dancing and moving around as in a concert. I’ve watched some famous stars’ sessions and they too don’t really move around. It’s really like watching them practice. OK, out of lurkdom now. Take care.
I meant, back to lurkdom now.
Bringing these comments over from MJ’s…just because I find them amusing… and interesting. haha!
“Archuleta is a very good looking guy who sings great Pop music and I am kinda confused about why people are having a hard time with his popularity.
I come from the world of Hip Hop and David Archuleta does not have to be a great dancer for someone to appreciate great music and the picture perfect guy singing it. His AOL sessions the guy owns that stage. He really does command his audience.”
and
“Haha I’m in college already but let’s just say there’s a TON of college girls who think Archuleta is super cute as a person but super sexy when he sings..alter ego maybe? I also have a college guy friend who randomly hummed TMH one day and didn’t wanna admit what he was humming.
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Heads up! Snarky’s has 2 vids from the Osmond concert featuring David.
http://www.snarkyarchies.com/
Gah!
David’s voice is absolutely beautiful and soaring in these two videos:
O Holy Night
http://allen6fam.blogspot.com/2008/12/silent-night.html
Amazing Grace
http://allen6fam.blogspot.com/2008/12/davi…huletta_01.html
juliebug~ thanks…FOD also has links…betta hold on!! you have been warned. !!…WOWZA…..!!!! ..WHEW..!!
YouTube
OHN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAqQBguPSmg&eurl=http://fansofdavid.com/
AG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZfmXRg4iog&eurl=http://fansofdavid.com/
FOD now has YouTubes up. I can’t seem to post the links…
AMAZING.GRACE…simply AMAZING….O Holy Night !!. … oops…There goes the lid !!…for me anyway…I am loving the NOW !!…..
Soul Man from Utah made an appearance in Amazing Grace. haha!
And wow! He got LOW in OHN,
Yep, came here to see if the lid had come off for Rascal in Amazing Grace? Certainly something was unleashed.
HG – We need another witness!
Oh Holy Night, Amazing Grace — WOW! These have brought me to tears. Thanks for the links.
OMG!! David was, is, and forever be the VERY BEST inspirational singer!! Even the Osmond’s were spellbound..looking at each other in awe as THE VOICE sang! I am just shaking, he touches me so!
These are another two videos I could spend the day watching along with the sessions, but the workday beckons..
Have a great day everyone!
ps..if only, at the Jingle concerts, David could sing OHN, or MDYK..That alone would well be worth the price of admission and more! After all, these are Christmas themed concerts, right?
Good heavens. His voice shone through on both songs, and I love that the soulful side came through on Amazing Grace. You know the Osmonds must sing those songs all the time — and they did fine — but David brings such STYLE and that VOICE. Oh, that voice.
Amazing Grace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZfmXRg4iog
O Holy Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAqQBguPSmg
SF – What a Christmas Album David will give us when he has the chance!
Kait – STYLE and VOICE – Amen
gotta run off to work, just wanted to say….
those videos say what all the words can never express …….. it’s the THE VOICE, it’s the voice…………
juliebug- thanks for the link!
Kizzi, thanks for the links..better quality vids.
I do buh-lieve a Christmas Album by THE VOICE could be THE BIGGEST SELLING Christmas album of all time…and that is not a stretch, that is a fact! Question is, why must we have to wait til next year!! boo-hoo!!
SF – Did you notice how much lower his voice is? I almost didn’t recognize it!
Kizzi…I know…Lower voice..awesome! And I just cn’t get over how David, small in stature, but can still out-sing all those amazons with THE VOICE!!
Gotta run..
Later!!
HG – We need another witness!
Amen! Amen!! and Amen!!!
Or, as they would say in my church:
SING IT, BROTHER! SING IT!!
GAH! What a lovely gift to wake up to! David singing my favorite Christmas carol (OHN) and my favorite hymn (AG). Sigh. During Season 4, the runner-up Bo Bice sang Amazing Grace a capella, which made him a serious contender when he was up against Carrie Underwood. Now, had David sang that hymn a capella on AI, I think he would have won the whole shebang. What these videos show, with this Osborne ensemble, is that 1)he’s a master of soul singing and 2)he can outshine anybody (boy, did he look short standing with those guys – ha ha!).
As I already said, when you’ve got a Voice like that, we can get lost in the vocals. Nothing else matters (to me at least).
Gotta run!
Oh, and djb, family members delayed our leaving, hence arriving to the Macy’s parade much later than I wanted (and, as for Northern Lights, never been there, so who knows what to expect at that venue).
Cutter and others, thanks for the info about Murray! It’s good to know that the town has events like Pride and political diversity. I have heard that there’s a big hospital there, too, but maybe that is hearsay.
Whoa – now THAT’S how you sing Amazing Grace.
Loving the here and now with this boy – so many wonderful surprises.
Can’t wait for video of tonight’s Gala!
♥
And to think a few short weeks ago after the AI tour, we were all boo-hooing about what we were going to do without our daily ARCHUFIX…haha!
David never ceases to AMAZE! I look forward every day for whatever new surprises David has in store…never a dull moment! I just adore him! Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think anyone, much less an 18 year old, would take me to such highs with just THE VOICE! And he’s a sight to behold as well!
We marvel at the wonder of David, THE VOICE, the looks, etc..maybe, just maybe when God took a little more time makng David as special as he is, HE decided it would not be a good idea to make David PERFECT, so maybe that’s why David is not very tall. Although he’s perfect in my eyes, his height is the ONLY thing that’s slightly lacking..only slightly! How unfair it would be if David were David in a 6′ tall body!!
Unfair to the whole dang male population! Yup, God knew what he was doing, all right!!
David is the perfect size. Those Osmonds are just freakishly tall haha!
Those vids were too SHORT…
Please David I need a entire album of Christmas and inspirational songs, preferably one of each, I can not wait
‘Amazing Grace’ with a hunkerdown, what soul!
Davidfanliz, i agree, David is perfectly sized, it just makes his voice seem even bigger.
Freo – yes, huge hospital in Murray. And a sizable Hispanic population. Not to mention that many of the LDS people there have served missions all over the world and have deeply lived firsthand another culture. There are also refugees from Southeast Asia and Africa, sponsored by Utah residents. My own Utah family is a fun blend of races – Chinese, Korean, East Indian, Puerto Rican along with that English Isles and Scandinavia thing. Life happens even in Utah!
When we focus on Murray as David’s life experience, we are forgetting Florida, his mixed family heritage, and, good grief, his Star Search adventures. He has had more experience and travel than the majority of 17/18 year olds, I would venture.
But anyway – a Christmas album!? I cannot wait! It has to happen!
Liz…Oh my heck! David is perfection to me too! and the only thing I think God did wrong was having David come into this world TOOOOOO late ( or me wayyyyy, wayyyyy, wayyyyy
too early! )..woe is me! I wanna be here for as long as I possibly can to continue this journey from afar with David!
I have to be careful not to overdose on vitamins or green tea!
hahaha!
Kizzi, May I second that emotion? THANK-YOU! The VOICE is reaching highs and lows that give me goosebumps down to my toes! I have always believed that “dynamite comes in small packages”! David’s size makes him all that more attractive to me. Little guy, Big VOICE!
archangel48 – “Little Guy, Big VOICE!” “Dynamite comes in small packages” AMEN!!! or as HG says: “Sing It Brother, Sing It!”
My hubby is about the height of David and he loves his height and woman always fall in love him—I have always thought his height is part of his charm; and, frankly, he KNOWS it is a part of his charm! LOL
OH MY HECK!! I saw a little bit of the hunkering down soul on Amazing Grace…the SUUUNNN note…ssssssssoooooooo beautiful. *SIGH*….just *SIGH*!
I sure hope that he is on a Christmas special show on one of the networks. That voice would make us all want to repent LOL !!!
OH MY, OH MY, OH MY.
HG: I wanted to thank you again for your comment #215. Your pen is mighty and you articulated definitely, in my opinion, what was trying to be said in the previous comments. Thanks for sharing your powerful gifts of observation, analysis and writing. I always have great anticipation of a literary treat when you post your insights.
While we are waiting for David’s Christmas album – I can never get enough of this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxi9UjqfKQ
I love David’s height, too! I stood next to him for awhile at Ford Day and he is a bit taller than I am. I think that great things DO come in small packages and it only makes him even cuter.
After watching the perfectly-sized, perfectly-voiced, perfectly perfect David singing Amazing Grace again for probably the fifth time this morning, I wonder how much of the ‘lid’ is simply him responding to those around him who tell him NOT to close his eyes, thrust out his hand, bend his knees and FEEL the music quite so physically. I mean, we fans love seeing him get into a song, but isn’t that a part of what he was criticized for by the many opinionated Idol viewers last season?
In Amazing Grace, it was as if he couldn’t contain that soul, and it makes me tear up to see it.
Kait #289 – I have the same thoughts. I think his style (eye closed, singing hand, bobbing upper body, the “dance movements in “With You”, etc.) was defined as “awkward” and he is in that refitting/redefinition stage for style because when he sings with his whole being (mind, body and soul) we get pure magic!
There’s a thread right now on IDF with a posting from one of David’s teen friends, Olivia. Apparently she has been trying to reach him and ended up posting on his official MySpace page to try and get his attention. The posting really gives you a sense of just how busy he is, and how hard it must be to keep in contact with everyone from home sometimes.
Amazing Grace: Mind, Body, Soul———The boy NAILED IT! I just let my 22 year old daughter listen…yep, those dang goosebumps!
Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, go to FOD and listen to Oh HOly Night and Amazing Grace……..archangel48 oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, he nailed it, for sure!! GAH, what a way to end my morning, in TEARS!!!!!
Home for lunch. Just felt like saying…
Hallelujah! and Amen!
amen
Hi Rascal
Have you seen/listened the Video clips David performing with the Osmonds.
The links are at Fans of David site.
O Holy night and Amazing grace.
I did look and LISTEN and I thought wow My David Archuleta is here again. Thank you heaven and moon and stars
Stella
250Cutter & 252Smanda, last yr I spent a week in Provo and Salt Lake City on work related travel. I’ve lived a lot of places and I travel quite a bit; in Utah I met some of the nicest people ever! Also, SLC is the cleanest city I’ve ever been in.
291Freofan, I saw those posts yesterday. I never read the blogs during Idol so I found that IDF thread quite humorous and weird. Since I work in IT, I tend not to put much validity in ‘who said what on who’s Myspace’ but it was interesting to read.
Refnaf, #279, “Amazing Grace’ with a hunkerdown,” ROTFL! The Soul Man of Utah in the house!!! I think I even got chills on my hair for that one. Wow.
SF #281, “I wanna be here for as long as I possibly can to continue this journey from afar with David!” I was thinking the same thing, even doing the math to figure out how ancient I’ll be when he breaks the record for most Grammys ever around age thirtysomething! Yeah, better start the green tea regimen today!
off topic
CUTTER, Bianca has posted part 3 of her The Super-Creative DA http://teamarchie.com/24_7/the-super-creative-david-archuleta-part-3/#more-2192
Just watched the Brett Hales interviews on FOD. They remind me of what I love about Brett: his humor, his warmth, his strength, his passion, his optimism, his faith.
Go big “B!”
Juliebug #256, thanks for sharing those comments — love hearing that fans of all ages and musical tastes are drawn in by David’s talent. (Not surprised, though, of course.
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#289 Kait – yes yes yes!
Listening to Christmas music at work here, and I have yet to hear a rendition of OHN that can even come close to David’s, and these are famous, well known singers’ Christmas CD’s versus David singing OHN live!! THE VOICE is magificent!
Freofan, speaking of David’s official Myspace, there’s some
P r e t t y weird people who leave comments on his blog and messages on his mobile #..some are hilarious, others down right scary..does David really read & listen to them cuz it doesn’t seem like anyone screens or monitors his Myspace. He has like thousands of “friends”!! That’s CRA-ZEH!!
Hi SF and all
The only version of OHN that I listened to repeatedly, was by (do not laugh) NSYNC. The harmonies were amazing! But…David now owns my ears.
Josie/ 304 ~ have you heard “young David’s “@ 12 yrs old OHN ??…stunning…..thats a repeater as well..will bring tears to your eyes for sure…..
Josie, I would never laugh at you Josie, especially if you knew some of the music I have on my i-pod, from Barbra, Celine, The Cars, to Little Anthony AND some NSYNC…all genres of music..but like you David owns me too, heart & soul! Oh my heck..does he ever!!
The Pied Piper, The Magic Man, THE VOICE..and in the not to distant future, he will be the NEW KING OF SOUL!! But right at this moment, I would really love a Christmas CD by David!!
SF~ it is coming….that Christmas Cd..I can feel it….David would not let us down….these two Osmond videos were just a tease…You are going to wake up one morning soon and……BAM !!…it will be waiting for you..another GEM and who knows? it just might contain a bonus track!!.. Tis the season….
of course it would be a SINGLE with a bonus track this year….he is a busy guy right now….but we will take whatever we can…..
djb…Do you really think so?? OMG!! David wouldn’t just tease us..keep us panting for more….would he? Would he? WOULD HE???
Gotta get home now..David’s callin’ me again..want’s to sing to me again..can’t, won’t keep him waiting!! I’m so pathetic!
I just can’t buh-lieve he’s done this to me!! All I can do is follow the Pied Piper..what else can I do?? I’m helpless!
Later!
SF ~ROFL..just keep BOTH hands on that wheel….
and yes i do belive it is coming… Jeff has mentioned it several times and team Archuleta has not let us down yet..!!! ..Ya Gotta BUH-LIEVE…!!!
It is obvious that David can “blow the lid off”—-as was evidenced in his finale performances. And it is BECAUSE he has lived the type of life that he has, that he is capable of such touching emotion and performances!!! It is only since he has been involved with the “professional music world” that David’s performances have been more limited—-and that is by THEIR choice—not his. When David and his Dad can truly “follow their OWN hearts again, the emotion conveyed in his performances will be unprecedented!! He and his Dad know best what is right for David IF they are allowed to bring that forward. Remember the words in David’s song “BARRIERS”—-listen at the end—it says—-”in a hurry to get somewhere and the world’s trying to block you, block you—-and you feel like you’re nowhere ’cause the world’s trying to stop you, stop you”. David is dealing with a lot of BARRIERS as he tries to bring his music forward—–and it is not his choice or his fault. Others just need to step out of the way and allow all that beautiful emotion that he possesses to flow FREELY.