Bliss
Video by mamezamd, audio by jwipe, mix by yours truly.
For me, this performance of “A Thousand Miles” represents everything that is so remarkably appealing about David Archuleta. It is on the axis of what sometimes seem like opposing attributes: powerful and tender, sweet and virile, effortless and masterful.
With each new performance recently, it is starting to feel like everything prior had been a rehearsal. His tone has never been richer, his control has never been so fluid; and the ease with which his confidence is manifesting is both palliative and thrilling. I’ve never felt so willing to led David lead me wherever he wants to go. And when an audience’s trust in an artist begins to reach that level, magic happens. This is a major development from just six months ago, when his ability to lead with assurance appeared only in glimpses. I am astonished at how quickly this is happening.
This piece is ideal for David’s strengths: soulful and longing, but with an unwavering sense of hope; like melancholy delivered with light. The rhythmic lyrics broken by long vocal lines are perfect for revealing the most exciting and impressive aspects of his instrument. This is a desert island track for me, because it sweeps me away from wherever I am and into a place where only David Archuleta can serve as host. And what a privalege it is to be his guest.

Rascal -- Love ya. Hear! Hear!
Only because this is part of what I do for a living…
let David lead
privilege
haha!
“like melancholy delivered with light.”
Gah~
Dammit Rascal, you are with words, what David is to song.
wow .. Rascal . i was just rewatching this for the 10th time at least … and check in here before bed to findthat you have done it again.. put words in print that are in my heart… bravo
I know we’ve compared this performance with his YouTube performance from when he was 13/14 years old….but how about against the original?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnkvhi1XOR8
ahem…
Rascal,
Divinely said.
Juliebug,
It surely must be an occupational hazard for now letting David near any material of original artists. As Ronald said -- He makes an aural feast of anything!
Good Night All
Houston JB photos at http://www.snarkyarchies.com/
His spontaneous smiles in this are infectious. I find myself grinning and crying.
I saw the other video of this from a different view. You can see him playing and his hands look huge on those keys.
Just saying.
Oh Rascal, beautiful remix, and beautiful post. “…powerful and tender, sweet and virile, effortless and masterful.” Guh. It really is just sublime, isn’t it.
have only been able to skim the last three threads (I think its three) crazy fast commenting going on…. have still only seen the vids posted by rascal…
HG and kindredspirit- loved your posts back somewhere (can’t remember which thread!) LOL
Heartchuleta126- “Thought it might be time to join in on what seems to be a healthy mixture of cerebral pontificating, musical analysis and naughty fun…” ….that’s why I love it here…the people!
I love all the lurkers posting!
Kizzi,TOfan, refnaf, Hello Gorgeous, Bluebarsa,djb- thanks to the kind heart and generous spirit of ninaf I will be able to hitch a ride with her and join everyone in Albany!! I’m so excited!! thanks again nina! Kizzi- I emailed you.
Tess- Welcome friend. I am moved by your tragic events and inspired by your strength. I too am a recent widow, having lost my father-in-law, mother-in-law, my father, my husband, and just last week my dear friend all within too few a number of years. But, God has blessed me with 2 beautiful children and the Grace to see the beauty in life that surrounds me. David is part of that beauty and we are blessed to see it. Thank you for sharing your story.
“Soulful and longing”. He’s got it and so do you Rascal.
Thanks for your effort on this remix. It’s so much clearer in every way.
Thanks for your beautiful words. I could just eat them up.
The thought that crosses my mind is…..
When I saw the videos of WYSYLM from tour, I thought they were WONDERFUL…however, when I saw David perform live, his voice sounded (at least) twice as good as the video quality.
I imagine the same of this song and hope to see David perform it live….some day soon.
Just listen to what he does at 3:00.
Who does that?
I am crazy about that!
Kind of off topic but does anyone know where to find sheet music of the new CD? Dying to try out some of the songs…
The concert is over..David was wonderful as I knew he would be..BUT,
It was not like Sacramento. There was something missing. THE VOICE was superb, the dancing was missing, although he did walk from one end of the stage to the other, but not like Sacramento. He looked great, although again, not like in Sac..a button down shirt, sleeves rolled up, like no thought went into what he should wear..although the jeans were uh..nice. David was the best vocally by far, though.
My sis just said..”not enough David”..and she also thinks I’m being too critical. I’m not ..I’m just telling it like it was.
I also didn’t take pics or video, cuz when he came out, I just wanted to see & hear him and not worry about focusing a camera..My sis took pics though, so I’ll post those as soon as we review them.
The other acts…
Colby Caillet…boring
Gavin Degraw..Very, very good! Very energetic & entertaining..great voice for bluesy soft rock. He had a baby grand too! I was very pleasantly surprised at how good he was. He’s gonna bring the house down in Albany! Think “Cook” but without the sreaming and a better, bluesy voice.
Rihanna..Diva personified..beautiful girl, puts on a good show complete with the techno lights, several dancers & back ground singers. Chris Brown joined her for one song and that boy can move, but he can’t match David vocally.
“I’ve never felt so willing to let David lead me wherever he wants to go. And when an audience’s trust in an artist begins to reach that level, magic happens.”
I was interested in David’s comments on his latest blog:
“I was so nervous before the show, wondering what I was going to say on stage and how I was going to perform. It kind of just came out though, and the energy of the band and crowd was just such a great feeling.”
I see him as riding the energy of the band and crowd and even more important, trusting himself to let go and just let it come out. David is grounded in his mind and soul, he is becoming more and more centered in his body. He is without pretense. This clarity of mind allows him to surrender completely to the moment, to surrender to himself,, which releases a flow of energy between himself and the audience and allows us the intense pleasure of surrendering our hearts and minds to him. This indeed is the place, that blissful desert island, where magic can happen.
Silver -- He was Deaf. His earpiece was not working according to Snarky’s. Might have made him want to stick to one place where he could hear the band better. Eh…who knows.
Slverfox!! Dang! If you hadn’t seen him before already, I’d be willing to wager you were just suffering from the beebee syndrome wherein it’s all over *poof!* too fast, and you’re stunned and gasping for more, MORE, MORE. But since you have live David performance consumption under your belt already… gosh. Don’t know what to say. I wonder if the missing something had anything to do with his being stranded without a functioning ear piece and left to sing “deaf.” (???)
I keep thinking of David’s performance tonight, and although his VOICE was as good as ever..I wonder if he was tired…he had a busy Saturday night, then he traveled from LA to Houston..Well, I’m tired..and it’s late, and maybe there’s nobody up, but still..For David,
Dear Lord, Though we are unworthy to ask,
Please take Care Of David. Watch over him, Protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his ARCHANGELS do. SEPARATE DAVID FROM THOSE WHO HAVE AGENDAS OTHER THAN FOR HIS WELLBEING. Give him rest when he’s weary and fatigued. Give him the stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms. Keep David healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
This, though we may be unworthy, humbly pray,
Amen.
Sweet dreams David, be safe & secure in our love always! Take care. You will always be numero uno in our eyes! Thank you for all you do and for just being you!
CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR!
Sweet dreams, SF.
Crush in Houston -- not the best video -- skippy sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ymIo9K5Yo8
ALTNOY Houston
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgBC1ixeO70
Silent Night Acapella -- Houston (they cut it off beofre the end!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPLTkDSmuYc
that set of videos is definitely of the *icky* quality genre… but… He was rockin’ hizself some ALTNOY there… jez sayin’.
Can’t wait for better vids.
A slightly better Silent Night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwfgwiVWUU
I saw the (really bad quality) Crush vid. Looked like he was moving to me.
SF: Just a quick thought. In Sacramento everything was a surprise. We didn’t know what songs he was going to sing. We didn’t know he was going to strut around the stage and dance a bit. We didn’t know that the intensity level was going to be raised way above the AOL Sessions. We had never heard him sing WFM before. I’m thinking that this element of surprise played a part in our huge reaction to the Sacramento show.
Dang it, how can it be past 11pm already. :/
davidfanLIZ…I agree with your comment in #15. I couldn’t believe David said that but it sure looked and felt that way to me…that it kind of just came out. He couldn’t have held it back that night if he wanted to. He was ON the minute he stepped out onto the stage.
Interesting comment from him in an interview from last night…he said how it goes on stage is completely unpredictable. I know the feeling from being a competitive athlete. Everything can feel right with all the preparation in the world and the results aren’t quite what you’d expect. Then there are the other times, the Sacramento times when by some magical alignment of the universe magic happens.
Liz, and I was just kinda stunned… I had a feeling of disappointment that I quickly realized was simply my reaction to it all going *poof!* so fast! (clawing the air for replay button…lol) I hate the thought of SF being disappointed. Just hate it. But she’ll get a good night’s rest… and maybe have a chance to assimilate, synthesize… and catch some good vids, too. (I found the vids VERY good in the *re-living* dept.)
(janey your avatar is way cool. looks kinda painterly and fuzzy)
Janey, Yes, he was ON the moment he came on in Sacramento. I’m sure he was pumped for the first arena show of a series, and as you said, perhaps there was some magical alignment taking place!!
And beebee, I love your image of clawing for the replay button. “Noooo, it’s not over yet!!!” haha! I too needed the videos to help assimilate, it was just so intense in person.
I’m sure we’ll hear more from SF, hope she’s having sweet dreams.
beebbees….what I wouldn’t do for an edit button on this thread…lol.
The avatar is from the AOL Sessions. I think it was a bit fuzzy because he was fussing with his ear monitor.
I’m sure not having his earpiece was very disturbing for him tonight. It explains so much. Dean has said many times how important it is for David to hear himself.
hm… new silent night vid (up closer) … from snarkies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RN8klfKtl8
liz…I asked a security guard moments before the show if he had seen David and how he was feeling. He said yes, he had seen David and he was READY.!!! Big emphasis on READY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42qw9-srLc
From tree lighting interview -- includes uncut sound check of Angels and OHN at beginning.
Would you care for an UNCUT video of his TreeLighting practice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42qw9-srLc
Beat you JR. haha!
I like your photos SF. LOL!
I was about to post the same video! That also has the interviews with him about it being unpredictable what happens when he comes onstage, and what he (doesn’t) want for Christmas…
i know! haha!
SF dear -- I know your sleeping now. Am sorry to hear that you are a bit disappointed. But we were told he was deaf -- can’t hear the band.
Re his outfit — I checked out the other performers in Sacramento and Jesse M was wearing something like that, except that it was white -- and JM was the main act. So perhaps he just playing it easy -- not to be overdressed, blending with the performers. I like the color of his polo shirt. And the rolled up sleeves looked really cool. Of course he always looks good in jeans
the i know at #40 is for JulieBug!
BLOGCRITICs interviews DA:
David Archuleta Performs At Tree Lighting Ceremony to Help Kids Affected By AIDS
“David Archuleta is so sweet and was genuinely appreciative of his fans. Very nice. People gave him flowers. While giving interviews (pictured at left, being interviewed by me), he made sure to wave to his fans. The American Idol star said going from being a regular teen to one of the most recognized teens was “pretty interesting. At the beginning of the year, I could just go out and eat, hang out at the mall, whatever with my friends. Now, it’s not exactly the same case.” He laughed, “It’s more running. You get quite a workout. Usually it’s okay.” Last week, one fan came up to him and starting kissing him. He laughed again. “Usually fans are pretty great. They’re really good and supportive. They enjoy what you do.”
David performed… “A Little Too Not Over You,” “Imagine”, “Silent Night,” “Crush,” and “A Thousand Miles” (by Vanessa Carleton). When I got home, I promptly bought David’s album off of Amazon. He was very passionate about what he does and had very good stage presence
For the complete article --
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/12/07/204422.php
My photos of David in Houston posted on Youtube..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8S-suKPfWw
Actually my sis took them, I just uploaded them and added music..he’s gorgeous, isn’t he?
I think I have to clarify my post about David’s performance last night…I was NOT disappointed in David, Never would I be disappointed in David. And He did move about the stage, but he didn’t “dance”, but that really doesn’t matter cuz his singing was beyond superb. and the audience loved him. It just wasn’t Like Sac. As for the earpiece..you never would have known from the way he sang..it was perfect. And his SILENT NIGHT was
glorius and Acapella Too! The other performers were no match for David’s vocals. I just wanted to make the point that to me it seemed like he was “restrained” somewhat, compared to Sac, not THE VOICE..but something else..and it bothered me. You all know how much David and his wellbeing and happiness means to me, so when I sense something is not quite right, I have to say something, but it may just be my imagination…
It’s 4 am, and I have to fly back in about 8 hrs..so I better get some sleep!
rascal -- The sharp contrasts we experience with David’s artistry make it all the more blissful.
I hadn’t wrapped my mind around those contrasts before your elegant and poignant post. It is like being freezing cold after an extended outdoor winter excursion and then sitting all cozy before a hot, crackling fire; or working hard outdoors in the summer heat and then quenching the resultant burning thirst with cold, sweet water. Those contrasts bring home to us in a visceral way why being human is such a scream!
SF -- I saw your photos on YouTube. Thanks. Just want to say it must have been wonderful to hear a verse from Silent Night a cappella. I can’t wait to see hear him sing in Albany!!
I know how sensitive you are to David’s moods and he is blessed to have you in his corner sending waves of good energy his way. You are like a lighthouse in the mist, you send beacons of warm energy out when the atmosphere around David seems obscure.
Part of learning is to have various outcomes from our early efforts; then we compare those outcomes and learn how to effect the ultimate results we are looking to reach. It is so amazing to see David rocket forward in this learning phase; and it is a privilege to see it unfold. Oh heck, I am getting mushy and gushy again. See what ATM makes me do!
The video you posted, Rascal, is one I hadn’t seen. I have a hard time watching AND listening at once, on this one, because David is captivating both in voice and expression. Think I’m going to have to separate the two experiences to get the most out of each, because when I listen I miss a great smile for a fan, and when I catch the great smile for the fan I miss the beautiful vocal nuance.
Silverfox, it will be interesting to the best videos from last night. I think for those of us who follow David’s every performance, there are going to have to be some that are better than others. (But that every performance is going to be well worth the cost of the ticket, the travel and the time.) I imagine that David might have been chomping at the bit to perform live again, and that might have added energy to that first night.
And, too, I do wonder if sometimes he’s occasionally inhibited by an awareness of the intensity of his fans’ enjoyment of him. In particular, by a knowledge of some of the, erm, visual enjoyment of him. He may not read blogs, but his people do, and if they report back about certain, uh, tangents explored by the commentators of nearly every blog I’ve seen, he may reel back on certain dynamics. I’m not saying this is the case. I’m saying that if I were in his not-quite-eighteen-year-old-shoes, I may sometimes get a little weirded out and react accordingly. (Boy, Rascal — you are so much better at using that large vocabulary to say what you need to say with delicacy and precision.)
Oh, well. You see? I was so excited to see the video you posted, Rascal, that I didn’t read the ‘fine print’ below it. I’d never seen it before because you created the mix. THANK YOU!
#45 Kait: I have been thinking about your post and I did have some of the same thoughts flit through my head when I read SF’s post right after the Houston JJ.
And, then I mulled over what I have read on the various blogs and I believe the performance changes at the Sacramento Jingle Ball was exactly what David needs. It cannot be the tiniest bit interpreted as over-the-top in any way what-so-ever; and to those of us who have memorized every nuance of every performance, it was breakout because he moved about the stage freely and danced a little and was so joyful.
Was it over-the-top when compared to other singers’ performances? No--if anything, by comparison, it was very tasteful.
I would speculate that we are just seeing someone in the process of learning new behaviors.
I am so touched and I love every word you said, Rascal. What more can I add?
Here is a video of Works For Me from Houston. Sorry if it has already been posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ53bTKR0h4
Good morning all!
SF, glad that you weren’t disappointed but you do seem a bit let down that it wasn’t like Sacramento. Actually, because there are easy comparisons to make now, I’m going to hold off watching more concerts before I see him on Wednesday. I want to see him with fresh and not too spoiled eyes.
Woah, Rascal! That young man is giving me fever! Thanks for that update with those pics! Don’t you just love how David is so damn sexy without even trying? *swoons.*
My quick watch of the Houston videos emphasized to me that, even though his voice was spot on, he IS feeling the affects of his whirlwind scedule from the past few days. I don’t think any of us could perform several nights in a row, then fly coast to coast for a few lines of dialogue, then perform and interview again, then hop on a plane and lose 2 hours of your day and interview and perform one more time. Oh the resiliance of youth!
As many of you have stated, we the viewers and listeners have come to EXPECT a certain level of performance from David and when we see any small nuances that indicate he isn’t “up to snuff” we tend to panic. We need to remember that for the average concert goer hasn’t been digesting every video, that they haven’t listened to every broadcast of every song, and they don’t know the David we do. For them, these concerts are always spectacular because they are probably seeing David for the first time and consequently his “average performance” is nothing less than wonderful for them.
That is what makes a great star. When your average is still better than what most performers can ever do.
Rascal, I always lurk here but never have the courage to leave a comment, I guess all of you here says what I really feel and think of David, but when I saw the 2 pictures you just added on this thread, I can’t help but wonder why you never included this one?
http://david-hq.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=299&pos=18
By the way, I would like to thank all of you here in ND but most especially to David for bringing joy to my not so exciting life. And oh big thanks to Rascal too.
“That is what makes a great star. When your average is still better than what most performers can ever do.”
Tess, that sums up David Archuleta in a nutshell.
SF, I know you weren’t and could never be disappointed in David. You just wanted more boogying and a Diva Hand or two. Seriously though, I was just thinking that this schedule must have been a bit grueling and he must might not have been ‘on’ the way he was in Sacramento. He stilll rocked the house.
liz #53 — well, I can tell you that it has nothing to with what some have characterized as “inappropriateness.” Goodness, the only reason people who look at a bed and immediately think of sex is that they haven’t done it on the couch, in the bathtub, or on the kitchen table.
I’m not a big fan of the posed “looking away pictures,” they almost always look too contrived to me. In the rare instances when they work, however, they can be brilliant.
“Goodness, the only reason people who look at a bed and immediately think of sex is that they haven’t done it on the couch, in the bathtub, or on the kitchen table. ”
I had to self edit my response to your quote Rascal. You are indeed a Rascal. I love it!
Oh, btw, I don’t think it’s innapropriate, or David would not have done it.
I can spell, but don’t tell that to my fingers. ‘Inappropriate’, for the spelling police, lol. Imagine what they must think of that picture? LOL!
Tess, feel free to email me. I would love to chat with you and give you love and hugs and spiritual healing.
erinr.hernandez@gmail.com
or anyone else who would like to.
I have heard 2 videos of Houston. I think the sound is horrible, don’t know it’s because of the venue’s setting or the camera. However, I heard they haven’t made the sound check…
, and quite clear, IMO, David doesn’t not match perfectly with the band… so bad. And I am wondering if David would like to have a tailored microphone?
Morning! It’s still early here in Houston..hard to sleep when a person is coming down from the “high” after seeing David in person, in the flesh, but still feel like “is he real, or just a figment of my imagination?” You see him on stage and you want to gather in in your arms and protect him and at the same time know that if you even touch him, you would disappear. THE VOICE carries you to another demension, and it’s hard to describe. I’ve gone through this three times..this euphoria, then the sadness that overwhelms, The “feel like crying” cause even though you know there will be a next time, it won’t be soon enough! I want to go through “this” many, many times for the rest of my life, even though the after-affects for me are just like what I imagine a drug addict goes through in withdrawal!..haha!
Why do some of us feel like this, cuz I can’t be the only one, and others are just happy they saw & heard David and are completely satisfied..I can only say that it could be the age factor…
Kait #45..yes, Every performance by David is worth the trip and price of admission! Definitely!
The concern I have about “his people” causing David to feel “inhibited” and thus “turn down certain dynamics” is exactly what I hope doesn’t happen..But it probably does.
I hope he realizes that even though the “visual” aspect of David in Sacramento was unforgettable..It was the JOY with which he moved & danced around the stage freely as Kizzi said, that was a sight to behold and what we, his die-hard unconditional fans want to see..HIS JOY IS OUR JOY! Surely “his people” understand that. And you can’t hide David’s many attributes unless you put a monks cloak & hood on him..Good Grief! David is who he is, and the persona he projects on stage is just that,
a persona, it’s not gonna change his inner being. David should allow himself to go ahead and let his body “feel” the music like his heart & soul feels it! Do those hunkerdowns, strut your stuff, David..use the diva arm! Your joy is our joy!
MYYK.#60..it must be the camera..They did do a sound check..the sound was great..David’s voice was perfect!
The show last night also proved another point about David’s power..His was the only set without the use of special affects..Just David, THE VOICE, his band and a mic..and he was by far the best vocally and visually in my opinion.
BUT I am not a teen or twenty-something, do you all get my drift?
silverfox -- #61
>>Do those hunkerdowns, strut your stuff, David..use the diva arm! Your joy is our joy!<<
AMEN!!
happy~#9~
so happy for you !! See you in Albany….!!
I’m so happy you got to see him again, SF!! I thought I might add that another fan told me that she was a veteran concert-goer for many artists and had been to MANY venues, and that she thought that Sacramento’s Arco Arena was the BEST venue in terms of layout and ACOUSTICS.
I assume that included within that was the quality of Arco’s sound system. I was amazed by how LOUD and CLEAR I heard David that night, and it was definitely better than in Glendale (July 1st) and much, MUCH better than in Detroit (July 24th).
I love the photos. Of all the photos I’ve seen, these are my favorites. I like what this particular photographer captured. There is something about the lighting that compliments David very well.
Silverfox, #61. I can relate to the “coming down from the ‘high’” that you describe. I experienced it the other night after the tree lighting ceremony in LA.
Just speaking for myself here. To me, it feels like heartache, in a way. Have you ever felt so in love with someone that when you are apart your heart aches for them? That’s a little how it feels for me. To clarify . . . it isn’t that I ‘fell in love’ with David -- it’s that I ‘felt the love’ that he channels/elicits. I know he isn’t the source. To me, he is a catalyst that helps open hearts.
This heart opening is a very intoxicating feeling. For me, it’s just that it is difficult to sustain the full degree of expansion that takes place. So the inevitable contraction, in comparison, feels a little sad to me.
My one compensation is that I believe that each experience like this opens and stretches my heart a little more -- so that my ability to give and receive love is expanded as well.
Potent stuff.
On a more mundane level, I often experience a let down after some big event that I’ve been planning for and anticipating.
So, no, you aren’t the only one who feels the way you do.
SF! aww, I know you were not nor ever would be disappointed in David. When I consider the absurd schedule he’s maintaining, it wouldn’t be surprising at all if his energy level (archu_wattage_projection…lol) was damped down a half a degree or so. And if anybody could pick up on that it would be YOU and your archu_radar. lol. I loved your pix, btw. And I am a spoiled brat and still expect some stellar videos from last night.
I kinda doubt David is worried about comments referring to his gorgeousness in Sacramento. Just my opinion, of course, because how would I know? I really think he’s just moving forward and growing and learning and integrating cumulative performance savvy. The break-neck schedule is mind boggling to me. I know his “youthful energy” will serve him well, but I just have to believe that after this Jingle Ball whirlwind he’ll figure out ways to pace himself and preserve his energy and happiness. It’s a learning process and lord knows he’s a fast study. He’s right in the middle of his PhD curriculum, I think. lol.
And David, puh-leeze *brang on* them unbridled hunkerdowns, honey! lol. I miss those from the tour.
Silverfox 43, maybe there was less dancing due to the fact that it was a Sunday performance. I’m basing this on my own childhood experiences growing up Baptist. On Sundays, my siblings and I weren’t allowed to dance or even listen to dance music.
Hi Noting Daviders! It’s very rare that I do leave comments here, because I myself feel inadequate with my writing, with my choice of words, let alone I feel kind of intimated with all the intelligent and deeply thought of comments here coupled with the always eloquently said and briliant articles of Rascal. I feel am not up to par with all you guys. But one thing I do know is I am a big fan of David and that will be for life.
I just would like to add my 2 cents, in addition to all what had been discussed above, about why David’s performance in Houston was not at the same level as in Sacramento’s. Could it be that he has something at the back of his mind….and it has something to do with the loss of his cellphone. It’s going to Vancouver, while he was going to Houston. If I lost my cellphone, I would be, I would react negatively, I would be a little sad, a little concerned, a little upset about myself why I lost it. So perhaps this could be one of the many possible reasons. It was still fresh in David’s mind during the Houston stint.
THANKS everyone for “listening” to my rambles!
Gotta log off now..catching a plane home..
Peace & Love ( & goodwill To EVERYONE, not just men!! ) haha!
Later!
Kindredspirit! When you speak of the “heart opening” it just makes mine burst!
I think possibly the numba one thing about David’s effect on me (and oh so many!) is the “heart-bursting” phenomenon! Of course it started for me on AI and just continued to snowball following him afterward. I remember nearly dying of bursting-heart syndrome when “Crush” came out. I had to get used to assimilating that, although at first it almost feels like a heart “attack”, it really is the opposite … a heart healing!
And I always marvel at how wide open my heart can GO. (David did this to me.
) Luckily I’d had many a heart-expansion moment BEFORE I saw him live for the first time in Sacto so I was somewhat prepared for a mega heart-burst at that time… lol. But until it happens how can you know how it will be? You can’t! I was STILL a STUNNED CREATURE at the Sacramento JB. (in a GOOD way…
) It’s funny how I “lived to tell” but am still left kinda blithering and finding that words fail me. There is no adequate description I can muster to represent that event for me. (All I’ve managed to say with any clarity is that his palpable JOY, energy, apparent comfort level, and OWNERSHIP was as stunning to me as the incredible voice that came with it!)
Safe Travel, SF! {{hug!}}
Sagittarius You may have something there. Mundane as it is, it was probably a big fat bummer for him. He always couches everything he says in his blog in such bouncy, happy enthusiasm that I don’t think I stopped to think what a disappointing PAIN in the butt that probably was.
I’m so behind, miss you all! Beautiful post, Rascal, thanks again for creating this wonderful space — a real touchstone for all of us. Love you guys!
Happy #9, ((((hugs and more hugs)))), soooo glad you’re coming to Albany, hope it’s just the tonic you need. Can’t wait to meet you and tout le gang!!
Have only been able to skim the past two threads and just wanted to say to Kindredspirit (2 threads ago, yikes), thanks for sharing your experience. Your description had me in tears cause I felt much the same way at Ford Day but could not find the words to describe it. Intense love, spirit, rapture — still can’t do it — but will hold it dear till the end of my days.
And HG, “We are so blessed -- despite current economic woes and global insecurities -- to be living right now and experiencing the rise of a new kind of star.” Blessed indeed.
Beebee, yeah it was a bummer. I lost my cellphone once, I was really bummed. Not because of the cost of the lost cell and getting new, but because of some confidential info in there plus I have to gather and re-create all those dang contacts and it was so dang difficult if you didn’t have listed them down somewhere manually. That’s the disadvantage of techy, we do away with our personalized telephone books.
Happy#9, so glad you’re coming to the Albany show! Can’t wait to see the whole gang!
Thanks Rascal for keeping us updated on David. This performance was intoxicating, truly. I walk away loving David even more. He inspires me in so many ways, bringing a new light to my everyday. I have never looked foward to anything like this before, just following his journey every single day. He has pulled me out of my middle life funk and put a new perspective on so many aspects of my life. Who would have thought?!?!? Thanks for this site, which I visit every day, (sometimes many times and day) to be in touch with so many others that love this talented breath of fresh air like I do.
You know, Sagittarius, you are probably right on about the loss of his cellphone! And it wasn’t “just” a cellphone, it was an iPhone -- it probably has all his music on it which he probably plugs into while traveling on a plane, getting himself psyched up, etc. I’d be stressed if I lost my iPod -- even though all the music is on my laptop, still makes it difficult if you are used to having those white earbuds on your head whenever you want them. And for someone like David who is ALL ABOUT music -- ouch. I’m sure it was a huge frustration.
I just checked jwipe’s YouTube posting of ATM, and it already has
36,442 views
(including “honors” from Canada, India, New Zealand, Israel, South Korea, Hong Kong, Czech Republic)
Pretty remarkable, I think.
My thanks to Rascal and all the other wonderful writers on this blog. When I first heard and saw the video of David singing A Thousand Miles last year, I knew I was in for something. I had NO idea he would change my life. I started on a journey of finding any information about David Archuleta that I could. I have not looked back and very PROUDLY own my ODD! Hearing and seeing him sing this song now, has only cemented my appreciation for him and his brilliance. A true star!
Snarky Houston Vids: THANK YOU AMY! (I’m not sure of the actual performance order. I must say, however, from what I see here, OMyHECKfire! I think he was frackin’ SMOKIN’!)
Touch My Hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-MuP1nsM_E
Works For Me (Amy said ” David ended up looking at me and Lynn and Karin during this song, and you can totally tell when it happens because I suddenly start filming his knees, and then you hear lots of screaming. Heh. Um. Sorry.” … lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwZopQsU60
You Can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YywY7NBI9jI
ALTNOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1GseWKxVhw
Crush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKiEjU1OZQ
Silent Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RN8klfKtl8
HDD sales are in at 54% and David;s album sales is at 38k so he is on track for about 50k in sales this past week. AND on track for Gold around turn of the year. Those in the know say this is good!
#76 information is already “old news” (heh-heh).
Quick update from jwipe’s YouTube ATM -
now 43,395 views!
kindredspirit #65: You are my soul mate! Your words made me cry in recognition. Your words speak SO clearly to my experience. Yes, it is heartache, an aching, a longing to be back in That Place, that place where David takes you, that place of love. And the experience is more intense when you see him in person, so the ache is stronger. Seeing him opens my heart and then I am left with this vulnerability, this emptiness when it is over. And to be clear, this is not a physical attraction (although he is, as ronaldsf puts it -- hawt), but rather a connection of hearts, of souls. When the connection is at its best, his music takes me to a place of profound peace and love and joy.
Since my encounter with David my one goal in life is to nurture that experience of connection in my daily life.
If David’s earpiece was not functioning properly then personally I think that may have had alot to do with a more subdued performance. If you look in the videos, even his guitar player seems to be appealing to the sidelines for intervention on some issue.
I’m sure this malfunction probably caught him off-guard and distracted him a bit and put him off his game. Nobody mentioned the level of crowd noise…I wonder if
the audience was very noisy.
Regardless, this is great experience for him! Equipment malfunctions happen all the time and he needs to learn to “think on his feet” so to speak.
Joner, looks to me like he already LEARNED to think on his feet…lol. jez sayin’.
I feel so badly for David with the loss of his iPhone. I wouldn’t be surprised if it threw him off. It no doubt has all his contacts, music, videos, many many texts, and other info. I hope they found it on the plane and will send it to him.
E-Online is giving David some major loving (“Angelic Voice”)!!
Wait for the video to load….him singing O Holy Night, GREAT sound and picture!!
http://www.eonline.com/videos/v37157_Raw__Archuleta_s_Angelic_Voice.html
David’s AI audition segment was broadcast in Italy today. Here is a clip from Italian TV. It’s hilarious with the dubbed voices!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJLpmXWLCo
SF #61 you wrote: “The concern I have about “his people” causing David to feel “inhibited” and thus “turn down certain dynamics” is exactly what I hope doesn’t happen..But it probably does.”
I want to preface what I am going to say by emphasizing that I know that everyone here loves David deeply and wants the best for him. I also know that we each come from a different background and perspective -- some of us are concerned that David comes from a conservative Mormon background and worry that that will inhibit his enjoyment of all of life -- specifically, the sexual/romantic part of his life -- and that those inihibitions with impact his peformances and career. And some of us come from David’s own background or at least a more conservative point of view and feel acutely uncomfortable with what we feel is inappropriate talk about his body. The bottom line is, we all love him (we love him “beyond reason”, as some of my friends like to say) and that we all want for him what SF says in her prayer every night. We start with that common ground.
But we do part ways along the road.
Here is the road I am going down. My concern is that his fans are sometimes blatantly disrespectful of him here at noting David. I know that other things go on in other places, and some of it is far worse than what goes on here. I guess that technically it is only PG-13 here when it is at its worst. And I know its all “in fun”, an intellectual exercise in innuendo. I am really good at seeing both sides of nearly every argument (which how I have come to be a faithful, practising Mormon who is also an advocate for gay rights.) But I have been thinking about this issue -- specifically what I (and others) feel is really disrespectful talk about David’s most private life and I can only see one side of it. I hate it and no part of me understands how it is okay to make crude jokes about David’s body.
I get that he is sexy (duh). And I think sexy is a wonderful, blessed, spiritual, joyful thing to be and to notice. But there is a continuum, in my mind, in regards to noticing and commenting about his sexiness. On one side are the people who are wigged out about David’s eyes looking provocative (and Rascal, I think I’m with you there). All the way over on the other side are the sites that veer toward porn (that I only know of through rumor). Between those two are gradations -- from healthy, adoring appreciation to smutty exploitation. For me, the comments about his body cross the line that divides appreciation from exploitation. Suggestions that he PURPOSELY chose to showcase his body for fan viewing pleasure in Sacramento is way over the line, disrespectful and, also, ludicrous. Because no one who suggests such a thing can say that they “know” David.
David equivocates about almost everything when he is interviewed -- he doesn’t want to hurt people’s feelings, he doesn’t want to say things he shouldn’t, and I think he wants to maintain some privacy. He waffles expertly. But he has never waffled about how he wants his fans to treat him, “I want to thank my fans for keeping it clean, ” he said once and, ” I want to thank my fans for respecting my standards.” He has talked about the standards he keeps for himself quite clearly. He doesn’t boast or push his beliefs in anyone else’s face. But he is clear. I think some people are concerned that it is LDS teachings that have created his “legendary modesty” but I would disagree because David takes those teachings and goes one step further -- no shorts, not taking off his shirt, being 18 and not having a make out song, are examples of his choices. It looks to me that David actually takes LDS teachings as his own because they fit his natural sensibilities, not that he has stuffed himself into someone else’s box. But regardless of why he has made the choices he’s made at this point in his life -- they are HIS choices. Maybe he will change his decisions someday, maybe he won’t. But he has the right.
So, do we trust him to make decisions about his own body or not? Do we second guess him and discount his personal standards? Some people are worried that at some point David will make decisions that will disappoint his conservative fans -- that those fans won’t respect David’s right to choose for himself as he grows older. But some of those same fans don’t allow him his choices right now. It’s HIS body -- even if he is a public person. Doesn’t he deserve our respect in this public place?
This is where I circle back to SF’s comment, quoted above. She is concerned that fan comments will make it back to the circle of people around David who will then try to convince him to tone down his natural exuberance. I suppose that might happen. But not only “David’s people” read these blogs. His siblings do, too. And his cousins. And his friends. To comment here so openly and then to assume that those comments will never make it to David’s attention is not realistic. Of course they know what goes on here. Of course those comments, those attitudes make their way to David.
I do know that everyone here loves him. I just think we should ask ourselves what it means to love him, what it means to support him, what it means to be an Original Fan.
smanda #87 -- it is a little un-nerving to think about David’s siblings reading all the comments that are on ND sometimes . . I had never thought of that. To me the big things here is that sometimes there are two worlds that are so different from each other that it’s pretty difficult for either to completely “relate” to the other. I do believe, however, that everyone’s intentions are good and believed to be for David’s best interest. I think we all need to remember that what David wants most is to SING.
On an entirely different topic -- the Italian version of AI is a hoot to watch. Listening to the dubbing in italian had me LOL. (I need to get a life!!)
uhhhh…rascal, we need you.
I found it so funny, too, especially when Randy and Paula’s voices were dubbed! Sounds like David has a growing European fanbase and this will be great exposure.
Liz, I echo that!
Well, we’ll all take from smanda’s post what we’ll take from it, right? I’m one who worries about the public nature of any blog — and trying to define ‘the line’ for my own posts. Just having this discussion out there will help me remember to weigh words — and that’s a good thing, IMO.
SF… thank to let me know it’s the camera, I lost my interest to click to see the Houston’s performances coz all noises were coming through the speaker and my ear was ringing (might be coz I had heavy headache from last nite)… I will try later when I feel better.
I want to believe what Silverfox sensed was probably David’s tiredness.
I’m not that frequent a poster but I really enjoy the rapport in this blog, especially the shared joy of David’s accomplishments, as well as the constructive criticism and healthy sense of humour. Sorry, I don’t get the constant concerns about what David’s ‘people’ think of our comments. Isn’t ND a fansite? A tasteful one, for sure, but a fansite nonetheless. It’s not intended for his siblings or cousins to read. It makes me a bit uncomfortable when mature ladies go overboard with their appreciation of David’s physical attributes but I don’t feel like I’m entitled to pass judgement. I hope this doesn’t come across the wrong way -- having a different culture may hinder my understanding of attitudes that for me translate as excessive zeal.
I don’t want David to be tired. Let alone saddled with too many worries. Anyway, thanks for all the great links posted here today
Coz I am in severe sinus headache now (and thank god my doctor is not available), I might lose my patience here. I wrote comments here because I want to express myself, I am sorry if my comment offeneded (not hurted) you, however, it doesn’t mean I am wrong/not entitled to do so. Don’t make me feeling gulity by telling me how David, David’s siblings, David’s cousin, David’s parent felt when they read the comments. I don’t think I am that important to affect them. I am nothing.
Smanda#87, I really think this blog has been pretty respectful, even when there have been innuendo and the like. We’re all aware who David is and what he is about. These concerns pertaining to what’s “appropriate” or not in our discussion about David is not really about David, is it?
It’s about segments in David’s fanbase having a difference of opinion about how we talk about David. We can allude to David’s personal beliefs or even suggest that siblings and friends close to him are reading these public sites all we want, but is that really the issue here? Isn’t the mere mention of these factors designed to try to silence some of us here and try to “keep us in line” because some members of the fanbase are simply uncomfortable?
I think you have a right to state the ways in which some comments make you uncomfortable, but not everyone has the same level of discomfort. And the diversity of perspectives here is what has made this blog one of the most interesting, thought-provoking, and fascinating David sites out there.
One more thing I want to mention: it’s one thing to state the ways some comments make you uncomfortable. It’s another thing to project that level of discomfort onto David, as if you are entitled to speak on his behalf.
# 97 HG
Hear, hear!
#70 beebee, I can so relate to the heart-bursting feeling. And yes, definately a heart healing.
#71 Tofan, I immediately thought of Ford Day when I shared my experience. That, too, was a more intimate setting where David was more up-close.
#81 DavidfanLIZ, hm, sistahs from another mother? I loved your comment “my one goal in life is to nurture that experience of connection in my daily life.”
#82, Joner, I tend to agree with you that David seemed distracted during his Houston performance. If you watch the expression on his face as he first approached the mike during his opening number, TMH, he appeared to be distressed -- most likely about the earpiece not functioning.
#87 smanda, I appreciate your courage in speaking up. It is a difficult topic to broach without coming across as judgemental. I am all in favor of everyone’s right to express an opinion. It encourages healthy dialog. Far be it from me to try to shut anyone down -- on either side of this discussion.
I am in favor of free speech and the right of anyone to post whatever they wish to post. Many of us on this site are adults and we each make our own choices in the comments we elect to make. And, foremost, it is Rascal’s blog.
However, I’m going to stick my neck out and do some sharing of my own. I am so happy when David lets loose on stage and is free in his body. If you watched his list of VH1 video favorites it gives insight into the types of people he admires. That type of admiration sometimes also reflects a person’s desire to be just a little bit more like whom they are admiring.
Speaking personally -- I was one of those late bloomers, so I know how difficult it is to free oneself from inhibitions. I am now one of the ‘freeest’ people I know
. However, being aware of how challenging it can be, especially for a shy person, the only thing I can do is support David in taking whatever risks he feels he can handle.
I would like to share something. My son is a little older than David. I remember how concerned I was when he began to develop a prominent nose. I was so fearful that people would talk about him and make him uncomfortable. He had to develop a thick skin. Luckily, he is not in the public eye, so he hasn’t had to withstand the scrutiny that David is subjected to. All I could do with him was to make sure his sensitive feelings were safe with me.
Last night I immediately noticed what David was wearing. He looked great, of course. But, I couldn’t help but wonder if there was a reason he was wearing a shirt that was so much longer than at the prior Jingle Ball. Coincidence, maybe, but it pained me to think that it might be a choice made out of self-consciousness. Of course, this is my take on it, but it did give me pause.
None of us know what David hears about what goes on here, but it is an interesting concept to ponder. And the only thing I can control is what I choose to post.
Peace.
#87 Smanda, I really do understand all that you are saying, and yes I actually agree with you. I just don’t participate on some of the topics or direction that some of the discussion is going that’s all. I do know though, that David doesn’t look at this site and really this site is for the fans. If you’d like to email me I’d be happy to chat privatly with you. erinr.hernandez@gmail.com.
I’m also sure that there are alot of rumors and other things that are posted in the papers and tabloids that are worse at times. I may not agree with all that is said here at times, but I still think it’s a great site.
I’ve said it many times: David has a very diverse fanbase comprised of religious and non-religious people, straight and gay fans, old and young, etc. He is going to evoke a variety of opinions. What concerns me is that David will get a backlash from segment(s) of his fan base if he makes life decisions that differ from what they want.
I agree with Kindrespirit. I think that like many people in the arts, David is a naturally sensual person and there should be no apologies about that. I think that his more subdued performance in Houston may be due to a variety of things. I’m sure he is tired (my heart goes out to him) and it would be so upsetting to lose the iPhone and have equipment not functioning during the performance.
There is a difference between sensuality and sex. And don’t even get me started on religion, the historically constructed shame of one’s body and normal human feelings, and the very real continuum of sexuality.
Having said that, I don’t profess to know David, having only met him briefly on a few occasions, nor do I know his own feelings on these issues. I suspect that like many teens his age, he’s still growing and changing. I love that he is so accepting in his friendships and has friends from all walks of life, young and old, religious and non-religious, different ethnicities and cultures, and gay and straight.
Ya’ know . . the funny thing about all of this is that most of us have no idea who all the other posters on this site are. Some of you have met, but has anyone met smanda? For all I know she might be one of David’s siblings, or best friends, or my next door neighbor. We are all entitled to our opinions, and I think it’s very important that we respect each other and try to not be judgemental -- on either side of the coin. I have noticed that there are a lot of mis-understandings about Mormons in general . . and maybe that’s why some have referred to them as “his people”. . . as tho’ they were a cult . . which they are not. But I know there are many faiths represented here, and all must be wonderful people because all love and appreciate David. I know he has changed many lives, and I am certain that brings him great joy.
Adding to what Erin4David just said — I remember in an interview recently, David repeated that he doesn’t read about himself online — he said something to the effect of, “the talk is going to be out there, anyway, so why go there…” And that stuck with me. Because I think most of us believe that David has a very good chance of becoming extremely successful, and there just won’t be a way to control all of the talk. As Erin says, worse things are being said in other, less loving places.
And this all comes back around to the idea that we can only decide for ourselves our level of comfort in participation. And that David is wise to not read… now that we’ve talked about this a bit, I wonder, should any of ‘the people’ start to talk to David about such things, if he doesn’t ask them to shush!
Lord, Heavenly Father, please give me the patience and open heart to hear what my fellow Archies are saying tonight, because I’m being challenged right now. I’m feeling my patience getting thin about now, but please help me keep my temper. In short, please help me to be more like David…
Obviously, more work needs to be done on my part.
Here’s what I will say: David is a beautiful, beautiful human being. He is physically gorgeous! If people twice his age, around his age, younger, etc. comment on the sheer beauty of his eyes, lips, hands, thighs, shoulders, whatever, and most especially that phenomenal voice of his, why is this so inappropriate? I THANK GOD for such beauty and that we have a public figure to look up to.
Must any appreciation for a wonderfully formed young man always be viewed as inappropriate? If some of you are uncomfortable with such talk, there are others of us who are not comfortable with repression. I see no reason why those who are obviously having a lot of fun and who have reached a level of comfort with each other should now be expected to repress their feelings when much has been done to make this blog a very warm and welcoming space for David’s fans to share in our mutual love and appreciation for David.
*ends rant and probably needs to sign off right about now.*
HG #97, good points on posting, speech, and different perspectives — I agree!
Oops, mamasaun, we posted at the same time. I want to say that I think I was the first to use that term, “David’s people” and I merely mean those close to him who might read and bring news back to him. I was thinking of Dean and Richard and Brett and whoever might see. I don’t know which of those people are Mormon, and it’s none of my business.
One of my dearest wishes for David is that he always manages to blend that beautiful openness with his faith. It’s another area in which he has taught this ‘mom-age fan’ the way it can be done.
Kait #104, good points! What do others think: do you think it’s healthy that David does stay away from fan sites? I think that if I were a public figure, I’d stay away from the sites for my own sanity, but what do others think?
I’ve seen both Sacramento and Houston videos and to me, David performed in Houston with the same intensity and enthusiasm as in Sacramento. Yes, I agree that at the beginning of first song Touch My Hand, he seemed to be a bit serious, but that’s about it, the rest of the show, he was energetic, alive, intense, inspired, joyful , he walked and even jogged from side to side and he was even smiling and laughing at times. I think we fans are just giving to much meaning on something that is absolutely nothing to give meaning about. And about the shirt, why would we even wonder why he was wearing in Houston something that is longer at the front. For God’s sake, it’s a dress shirt and it’s the fashion, coming from a guy, sometimes I don’t like to tuck in myself. In Sacramento, he was wearing a long sleeves fitted t-shirt and naturally, it would be a little shorter at the front. Aren’t we thinking too much for absolutely nothing?
It’s like when he sang Imagine in AI where he didn’t sing the first 2 verses. People were speculating so many things like because of his faith and beliefs, blah, blah, blah. But later on, he proved us wrong, he sang all the entire verses. So please let’s not make things very complicated and avoid throwing meanings to utterly meaningless things.
Kait -- thanks for clarifying that. Many people think Mormons are a cult . . it is a very mis-understood religion. Much of what people think they know about Mormons is entirely untrue. I understand now how you were using the term . . and I enjoyed your other comments as well. I too have learned a lot from David and how he “manages to blend that beautiful openness with his faith.”
Okay, first things first. I love and respect smanda immensely. I don’t think it amounts to telling stories out of school to reveal that she and I have conducted some very deep and heartfelt private correspondence about a range of issues related to a variety of topics around David and around LDS, and not always in relation to each other. I can attest to the fact that smanda is someone who values awareness, observation, and information more than myopic allegiance to some regimented proscriptions laid down for people who can’t or won’t think for themselves. And like smanda, I can see many sides of an issue.
On the one hand, notingDavid is a far, far safer place than almost any non-advocacy site that might talk about David. Just peruse the recent comments at Perez Hilton’s post of David’s “A Thousand Miles” performance if you want an example (or don’t — you’ll be offended to the bottom of your feet, I assure you). notingDavid is even considerably safer, as smanda acknowledged, than certain pro-David sites that think nothing of indulging in all manner of fantasy, vulgarity, and disrespect.
On the other hand, notingDavid is an independent publication, one that does not explicitly purport to represent, protect, or defend the interests of David Archuleta. Anyone who reads Rascal knows that acknowledgement of reality always trumps unjustifiable praise. Personally, I feel I accord Mr. Archuleta far more respect in that regard. notingDavid is also, it is important to note, a site that clearly and happily caters to intelligent adults, not swooning adolescents (okay, we allow ourselves an occasional swoon), who are, it must be emphasized, citizens of a country that values freedom of thought and speech above many other political principles.
If David or his people are going to wade in and observe the waters of public discourse, they had best be prepared to encounter all manner of nonsense, and make a decision to pick and choose what matters to them from what is being said and by whom. Otherwise, they should ignore it altogether. Although I will confess to having considered on more than a few occasions what the ramifications of certain expressions might be to David or his people, I have invariably concluded that it is more dangerous--and, indeed, less respectful--to temper my expression for that reason than to put something out there… especially something that is undoubtedly being addressed elsewhere, and in perhaps a much less considered and respectful fashion.
I fully respect and understand the concerns about objectification, even if I do not agree with them. Objectification is part of God’s plan for physical intimacy. We must necessarily be attracted, at some level, to physical beauty, and even to specific physical attributes. Problems emerge only when objectification happens at the exclusion of other human attributes or dimensions. I defy anyone to identify a single member of the notingDavid community who does not appreciate the artistic, spiritual, social, and professional aspects of David Archuleta in far more measure than they appreciate the size of his hands. Intelligent minds can hold hands and hearts in balance simultaneously.
If I had to put my own spin on smanda’s concerns, it would amount to something like, why is it necessary? And I get that, I really do. But I wind up at a metaphysical answer, which is that nothing is necessary. It may be for fun, for laughs (I confess to having had uproarious outbursts on a number of occasions); it may be because David’s effect on us is so sublime that it needs, on occasion, to be grounded in some kind of base humanity (there is nothing wrong with the lower chakras), or it may be because we simply love everything about him, including the things that he might find embarrassing or distasteful.
There are really only two points on which I take specific issue with smanda. The first is that the innuendos about David’s physical being have been crude. They have been nothing of the kind. smanda may disagree with me but I don’t happen to believe that topics themselves are crude, but only the way they are discussed. Crudeness is related to style, not substance. Indeed, I don’t know where I’ve seen more creative, sophisticated, hilarious writing apart from the glittering comedies of the 1930s, when nothing was said but everything was on the table.
The other point with which I take exception is that there was ever a suggestion that David purposely decided to showcase his physicality in some overt fashion. I never said that, I never even suggested it. What I said was that I had a feeling, a sense, nothing more, that David has been historically more or less self-conscious about his physicality. He was a slightly pudgy kid, for example (I know what that feels like), and I think the whole jacket thing was a holdover from that. My whole point about what he has been wearing recently is that he seems to have lost some inhibitions about his physical presence. That’s all. And I believe if you go back, you’ll see that this is very nearly precisely what I said.
I do appreciate more than anything that we can discuss these issues in a reasonable way. And I thank smanda from the bottom of my heart for her devotion, her principles, and her generosity in sharing them with us.
Well, since we have been dealing in innuendo, it is challenging to have a discussion about what I think might be the elephant in the room.
The jeans David wore in Sacramento were very form fitting. There was a lot of innuendo in prior threads and other sites about, shall we say, a certain part of David’s anatomy? And it wasn’t his face, shoulders, etc.
The front of the new shirt covers up this part of David’s body.
And, again, different people have different comfort levels about what is or is not appropriate to comment about.
If I am uncomfortable, like Erin, I elect not to participate.
And there is no doubt in my mind that everyone on this site loves David and his music dearly.
Freo,
David is wise to stay away. If he needs feedback on anything concerning his performances and career moves he should discuss them with his management.
Can I say something else? It upsets me when I see fans telling David what to record, how to dress, how to move, how to sing, even how to style his hair and basically, complaining a lot. Gosh. What the heck do we know? Many of us have confessed to having been away from music for many years. I’d rather trust David’s instincts as to where to go with his music and the professionals around him to help him make informed choices.
Thank you, Rascal.
As we have before, we continue to agree to disagree.
It is not my intention to be judgemental, just to present my own feelings and opinions about a person I love and whom I know you all love.
Tonight, I guess it was my job to provide the diversity.
Kindredspirit, I am tempted to analyze the new shirt last night and wonder if he purposely covered himself up, but I also wonder if Sagittarius made a well-meaning point that it was a just a shirt in a certain style and there was no conscious meaning behind it. I think that I’m going to let the chips fall where they may and think that it was just a clothing choice of the night.
Sag, I meant to say well-taken” point in my post above, #115.
Thank you Rascal for helping and stating so beautifully how Smanda feels and has expressed herself. It really does take alot of guts to take a stand and really speak what is on your mind. Bravo! Bravo Smanda! Although everyone may not agree, we all do agree on one thing though, we love David!
Rascal, thank you! How do you manage to sort through the divergent ideas so quickly and well, and then articulate your responses in a way that makes perfect sense?
Smanda, I’m glad you made the comments. I think many of us, in our responses, have revealed that we have wrestled these ideas even within ourselves.
As far as the question about what David is wearing or how he is performing or whatever, I’m going to agree with Saggitarius, that we just don’t know the ‘why’s', and we will never know. He’ll wear what he’ll wear and perform how he performs, and I suspect that we, who love to talk about all things David, will alternately gush and wring our hands.
# 115 Freofan, thanks, I really believe it was merely a clothing choice and nothing else. The show is an informal one and David is young, why would he tuck it in. It’s the “in thing” or “cool thing” nowadays for young guys not to tuck in. Am basing this observation on highschool uniforms where these guys just hate to tuck them in. Simple as that.
I prayed, and you came along, Rascal. Thanks for your truly respectful, rational, and as always eloquent post. Obviously I haven’t signed off yet.
I think I was starting to feel like what MYYK had expressed earlier, you know, a feeling that for those of us who have commented on David’s physicality, that we were being made to feel guilty about it.
I am trying to understand the concerns of those who really are put off by such comments and why this keeps coming up as an issue (this is not the first time). And I don’t think this is just a Mormon vs. non-Mormon issue. Although, truth be told, I do see a need (one that I understand) to self-identify with an idol and establish a common bond with him. I totally can understand why someone who shares a religious affiliation with David would want to speculate and imagine what his values are based on that commonality (not to mention certain personal expressions from David himself that gives us clues).
This need for common bond is not unlike the teens who self-identify with David as a peer, or Latinos who identify with David’s ethnic background, or even the black girls here, who just yesterday, we were speculating (if only in fun) about David’s supposed preference for sistahs. Obviously, we want to create those common bonds with the idol that we admire.
What I struggle more with here is the policing that sometimes goes on, in which -- because of a perceived sharing of a religious background, and therefore, a presumed attitude around certain ideas, such as sexuality -- some in David’s fanbase then try and rein in certain attitudes and behaviors, as if they have been appointed to do so.
For me, this is very problematic because, unlike other fans who delight in whatever perceived commonalities we think we share with David, we don’t go around insisting that others behave and think according to our belief systems. If you delight in your common bond with David, cool and more power to you.
But that’s the operative word: Delight. Such delight should obviously not preclude you from being able to share in our mutual appreciation. And, even when things go overboard, for those who define “overboard” in whatever personal way that is your own limit, there is always the choice to stay away, or come back when others have calmed down. Kind of like what erin4david has said about her own reactions. I totally can respect that.
Policing others’ behavior? Not so much.
Hello everyone..remind me the next time I see David in concert, which may be very soon..to just say how very wonderful he is and how much I love him and let it go at that..I’m still winding down from Houston..where David was very wonderful and I loved him! G’nite all..and for David…
Dear Lord, Though we are unworthy to ask,
Please take Care Of David. Watch over him, Protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his ARCHANGELS do. SEPARATE DAVID FROM THOSE WHO HAVE AGENDAS OTHER THAN FOR HIS WELLBEING. Give him rest when he’s weary and fatigued. Give him the stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms. Keep David healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
This, though we may be unworthy, humbly pray,
Amen.
Sweet dreams David, be safe & secure in our love always! Take care. You will always be numero uno in our eyes! Thank you for all you do and for just being you!
CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR!
Amen! Thanks, as always, for your nightly prayer, SF, and g’nite!
So much to catch up on! But in the meantime [b]sable[/b] this was posted over at IDF:
[i]wow! this performance[/i] [of A Thousand Miles] [i]is getting so much attention:
~perez hilton site
~z100/ elvis duran -- posted under the morning show
~station in new orleans WEZB has 1000 miles up on their site front page -- http://www.b97.com/
Last I checked it had over 68,000 views on youtube!
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This, on top of the video linked to above from E! Online, really is impressive given that this event was NOT TELEVISED. Yet still his performances are resonating and having a broader cultural impact, to some degree at least.
One of things on my David wishlist is for David to do a live Christmas concert on HBO or something, or any kind of concert that highlights his more transcendent, powerful music. Just him and THE VOICE. I’m thinking maybe something along the lines of Barbra’s first television specials, which were basically one-woman acts and simply her performing a variety of songs and styles. Basically, something that seriously highlights David’s artistry and makes him out to be the star and once-in-a-generation talent he truly is.
HG, good points. Will you and others be at the Albany show (I think tomorrow?) Hope you get good driving weather.
Freofan, yes I’ll be at the Albany show (which is on Wednesday).
Lot’s of wonderful discussion. But as I was reading I just kept thinking, this is so tame compared to what David is probably faced with backstage with 6 other pop bands at these venues (Katy Perry jumping around with 8 miles of leg exposed, the Pussycat Dolls with, well, whatever exposed, the language he probably hears, the innuendo and even the lifestyles of some entertainers around him.) That’s the nature of the business he is in, and that he has chosen.
He’s not a baby, he’s a young man who has his head on straight and seems very aware of the big wide world. He’s been groomed and has trained himself for this role for years, and I don’t think Jeff would have allowed him to make this leap if he thought David wasn’t grounded enough to handle it. He may be innocent, but I don’t think he’s all that naive.
And I can’t believe that anything said here (not much but a simple admiration for his physical beauty, which is hard-wired into our brains, by the way), will have an impact on David. He’s got his values clearly in front of him and probably is a lot more worried abut his iPhone, his next appearance, the video that is coming out, the next plane trip, and getting some time in between with his loved ones, than what is said on a fan blog -- especially one as respectful as this one.
Thank you rascal and others for the thoughtful and respectful discussion.
rascal, you asked why we have the need for objectification and then said, “it may be because David’s effect on us is so sublime that it needs, on occasion, to be grounded in some kind of base humanity (there is nothing wrong with the lower chakras)”
I laughed out loud in delighted agreement when I read that. I think there is a lot of truth there. Plus, as you said, “we simply love everything about him.”
Thank you rascal. Because of the strong bonds of trust that you have created with your commenters, this is a place where even difficult topics can be approached with clarity and grace.
Very good points, Marlie7, and on that note, I’m signing off for real.
G’nite all!
Rascal111- thank you for your clarifying post, and just in the nick of time…..its getting crowded here in the hiding spot and we were panicked because we ran out of brownies several hours ago…
Thanks again …. for everything…
ronaldsf #123 Love to hear about all the buzz that ATM is getting. And a TV special that highlights his more serious, transcendent music, oh my…. that would be heaven.
happy LOL!!
silverfox #121, lol. Now that you mention it, I guess it was you that started all of the suppostion that’s been going on about why David seemed out of sorts in Houston. Glad to hear that in retrospect “David was wonderful and (you) loved him”. Now things can return to normal.
Rascal, yes, I must admit without the lower chakras we’d probably float away. Thank you for your thoughtful, measured, and thought-provoking post.
Happy # 121 -- Don’t worry, be happy.
Now this is how you have a discussion with divergent opinions and yet keep it respectful, but real.
Several months ago a discussion took place on another board about older women’s appreciation of David’s physical attritbutes. Much was said, but the implication was that it was somehow wrong. I totally disagreed of course.
There is nothing wrong with commenting on David’s beauty as it’s only another aspect of him as a human being. I’m also a bit miffed because I think that some of this stems from ageism as if once you are of a certain age you can only enjoy men of a certain age, in any way. And if we simply say that David is attractive that somehow we are perverts. That sucks.
I’ve never read anything here that would make me feel that David was being objectified or disrespected. I’ve been reading here for a long time now, and have never seen anything crossing the line. I have a child that age myself, and would be mortified if I thought I was partaking or even standing idly by while the sexual objectification of of child was taking place. Just don’t tell me I can’t say he’s purty. “Cause he is.
I will still say that I think he almost as much a joy to behold with my eyes, as to hear with my ears, and frankly don’t think that I am wrong to say it.
And now for something completely different -
David’s bracelet package is up to $4,160 in bidding.
David’s bowl is holding steady at $625.
And in light of tonight’s discussion, I hesitate to relate the following….
David’s… um…er…ornament… sold for $560. heh
Rascal I just want to say that I love this site very much and thank you for all that you do for the love of David.
Everyone here has different opinions I’m sure, but I do agree with some as far as not seeing anything wrong with the way he dressed or performed in Sacramento or Houston.
As we all know…to make it in the music business…you have to be a good singer (unless your Brittany), performer, and just as important is an artist’s style…the way they dress. I do not see anything wrong with the way he dressed in Sacramento. He wore jeans, t-shirt, and a vest. He looked very good and it was age appropriate. If anyone has checked the styles lately…like I have…because I have two teenage boys…most of the jeans in the stores I have seen are form fitting, straight leg, or tapered leg. It is hard to find loose or baggy fitting jeans. The style now is the tight fitting jeans of the “80s”, as I call it. I was very happy to see him not wearing a jacket and feel that he crossed NO barriers in doing this. It is crucial that he appeal to the teenagers and 20 somethings in order to have good cd and concert sales. What he wore was VERY CONSERVATIVE COMPARED TO MOST of the other artists out there. I was so happy to see him performing well and dressing young and in style. I feel like he did not compromise any of his beliefs or morals…whatever they may be. He always remains respectful in his music as well as in what he wears…can’t say that about many others…alahhh…Brittany again lol sorry! Don’t mean to step on any toes here. Just expressing my opinion as others do.
Juliebug- ornament…uhhh…ha ha your so funny!!!
Nothing wrong with a little humor when we all love David so much.
Rascal -- In response to his A Thousand Miles performance being posted on various media sites…
I am glad that others are somewhat reconizing that when David is given great material he is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!
Just wanted to throw into the mix this:
I participate in this blog site because it is a site peopled by adults. And adults have not only a right, but a duty to comment on public figures in any way that they may want to. That is the essence and the glory of being free men and women living in a free [well, mostly free] society. David is now a public figure, and he will be commented on no matter what. Some of it will be respectful, and others of it will be disrespectful, even obscene. This site, even in its most ribald moments, has been respectful of David because, as adults, we are have recognized the difference between healthy, humorous sexual innuendo and unhealthy, overt sexual fixation.
David is a young, pure and innocent kid, but not naive, a young person who has yet to discover so much of what this world has to offer. I am convinced that he will not only survive the journey of self-discovery that he is certain to undergo but will come through it splendidly because of the incredible soul that inhabits his small, but beautiful body.
Oops!
“…….because as adults we have recognized the difference……”
“….a young person who is yet to discover….”
Haste always makes waste.
I wish it was Rascal’s mix that was being linked around the internet though. It’s mucho bettah x 84688545601.
http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1589356&vid=278040
#27 in the Top 100 music videos of 2008 on VH1
Silverfoxe -- You made an appearance in the videos that Mom made of the Houston trip. It’s on Snarky’s.
Ok Ok -- I very seldom comment but tonight I just have too, even though things seem a little calmer. Before I lose my train of thought, I don’t think ANY ONE HAS EVER BEEN DISRESPECTFUL towards David. We have loved him, worried about him, prayed for him, cried for him, listened to him, laughed with him, and on and on. If ever there was any kidding among the ladies it was mostly polking fun at OURSELVES, AT OUR OWN EXPENSE. You see I think David and everything about him brings out the younger woman (girl) in us. We know how we think and we dared to laugh at ourselves. I think the intellectual conversations are a breath of fresh air and I love reading all the blogs. I stay up late reading and laughing and just plain have a good time. Some of the things I read between the lines are halarious and I love laughing. Some things are so thought provoking that I am forced to do some soul searching to try to remember the good in “me.” Sometimes I go to bed and I do count my blessings because I know that I have been lucky in my life. No matter what the subject matter of the nights bloggs is though, I always go to bed thanking God that there is David , and for all that he is.
Now about Houston -- I was there, right in front. My feeling is that everything was rushed. The gates didn’t open on time so when David came out not everyone was in. Boy did those people miss out! Secondly, (I think David got a hair cut, by the way lol! ) I wish there would have been a little more time between the songs, just to get back to earth to listen to the next. Third, the clothes, well besides the Diva -- he was the best dressed just a little different than we have grown acustomed to lately. I think we need to lighten up and just love him and quit second guessing his every move. We know that there so much more to come but we need to be patient. We have the solos coming up and then watch what will happen!!! He won’t have to share the stage with anyone, not that , that matters -- but we’ll get MORE DAVID!!! The withdrawals won’t be so painful.
I love you SF cuz you love him so much.
http://www.z100.com/cc-common/idol/
Wow! What a night it has been here!
But before I comment on what transpired here, some great news 1st to add to ronaldsf’s post #123. HOUSTONRUFUS has this to report after the the Houston JB:
“I would say there were definitely some new converts. I think David got a great reception. He was the first one out, so some were still trickling in. But David had a lot of diehard fans there with signs, t shirts. That kind of surprised me. We heard several “non-fans” say great things.
The Silent Night was a smart move, not to suggest that David is calculating. ha! He only sang a couple bars of it, but he sang it a capella. And the crowd fell to a hush so they could hear his voice. He got an awesome response.
And the radio station, which has been rather chilly re: him in the past, closed their morning show with Silent Night and said he had an amazing voice.
So, yes, I’d say he won over some new fans. This last bit of news made me especially happy. The morning DJs on this station have driven me to distraction. To have them be so complimentary and close their show with his voice was a small victory.
See -- one song at a time
Also, when was the last time you checked Crush on youtube? It has now reached 8.3M views? And that is just from the official site. A separate video has about 1.7M views. IDF has been monitoring it, hoping it would breach 10M mark by David’s bday.
JingleBall is indeed giving him good promotion. Cool eh?
http://david-hq.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=345&pos=9
Huh?
LOL!
smanda #87
This being a public blog, readers have the option to read or not. Suggesting what “code of decency” a public blog content consists of is over the line.
If you feel offended by comments regarding David that refer to his budding maturity. you may be best server to skip those particular posts.
If rascal had received complaints from the family, you can be sure there would be some “deleting” of posts. The blog would reduce to “swiss cheese”. Brett Hales reads here and posts on ND. Jeff Archuleta shows up rearely, but never has he publicly distained the tone of comments.
I speak for myself when I say this blog may be the most “honest” interpretation of David’s artistry. Rascal is a true fan. He comments on his blog from his heart. There is no doubt where his loyalty lies.
The fans come here to express what they feel about all aspects of the phenomenon that is David Archuleta. If some things are offensive to some readers, perhaps skipping those posts will cure whatever angst is causing the problem
I think this may be one of my top five favorite threads. And it is, coincidentally enough, titled, “Bliss.”
When I read this just a few minutes ago, the respect for different perspectives just jumped off the page and kept me company as I sipped my coffee and read everyone’s comments.
First and foremost, it is the sophisticated level of shared adoration and celebration of David Archuleta’s artistry that makes rascal’s site my favorite.
A secondary benefit, however, that I highly treasure is the comments that challenge the way I think, my values. Those challenges have afforded me much to ponder and examine in myself in the context of the discussions. And I either reaffirm or grow. And, I have to say the reaffirmation has been good, but the growth, oh the glorious growth, feeds my soul.
Thanks to all of you for sharing your insights and your wisdom.
I’m late to the party coz my little handicapped made a trip to the Emergency. But, I’m here now and think I will throw caution to the wind and blunder on into the debate raised by smanda.
I get where both sides are coming from. David is flat-out gorgeous. You’d have to be blind or dead to miss it, and I think occasional comments about his physicality are inevitable. If I wanted to make a list of what I find attractive in him, I would need a ream paper. I’m a completely over-the-top, totally smitten fan. (Never been a fan of anyone ever. New territory here.)
However, portions of one of the last threads were pretty tasteless, if you want my opinion. (I know, 90% of you don’t--but, oh well.)
Let’s try a thought experiment: Everyone involved who posts here swaps sexes, I wonder if the discussion would seem so cut and dried. Let’s say YOUR daughter, niece, granddaughter or young friend is 17 and a fabulous singer. She’s shy and as innocent as you could find. She gets an incredible break and is thrust into the public sphere. A fansite inhabited mainly by adult male professionals sometimes speculate about her luscious breasts and their size. And, her yummy private parts. That would be just fine with you?? Or not? This a 17 y/o innocent girl, one you know and love. Somehow, I doubt that the comments would be as easy to excuse.
I think it’s one thing to gush about David’s eyes, hair, hands, arms…and a whole other thing snickering about the size of his package. Ruler or yardstick? I think that’s what has caused bouts of revulsion in some of the posters here who otherwise love the site. Some people who were regulars have backed off coz they’re not comfortable with crossing the line there.
Maybe some of you would be fine snickering about some young girl’s boobs and private parts, but others of us would find it tacky, low rent behavior.
Excuse it any way you like. Talk around it, try to make those of us who have a smidge more propriety feel like Neandrathals. But, at the end of the day, David still does not deserve smarmy comments about his private parts even if cloaked in innuendo.
Oops…ream OF paper.
Correction: the crossing of the line here.
(Note to self: edit before posting. Duh.)
bookaholic -
I believe young females have less respect shown them overall than young males in cyber space and it seems to appear more culturally acceptable.
There are many levels of truth being expressed here on this topic. I can appreciate that all of us are motivated by the same intention.
On another topic: Chum FM is going to have David on sometime between now and 9AM et. Links at Snarkys.
Chum FM -- David is on in minutes to perform live -- be sure to listen; people came from all over Canada (some days before) and the excitement is palpable even through audio!
Good morning everyone! I’m up early for yet another busy schedule. I see the discussion continued into the wee hours.
First, Happy#129! Looks like I missed you as soon as I signed off. Hope you were able to make more brownies! Will you bring some to Albany?
I agree with Brooklyndawn that this is definitely one of the most respectful sites out there and that we can actually discuss things so out in the open without resorting to attacks (even though I will admit, as Vermeer likes to tell me, that I can get “feisty”). I also agree that there is a certain ageism being expressed.
Bookaholic#149, interesting proposition about gender role reversals. But here’s the thing. It’s precisely because young women are so overly sexualized in our high-tech porn culture (not only would that same 17 year old be subjected to sleazy discussions from adult males but same males would have already doctored photos linking her innocent face with a not-so-innocent exposed body -- not to mention her record label would already pressure her to sex up herself) that this gender reversal does not work so neatly.
First of all, it is the stuff of male fantasy to deflower virginal girls -- there is a whole cottage industry in porn devoted to “first timers.” So, when people speak out against sexual objectification of underage girls by adult men, it’s because there’s a whole profitable industry, as well as sex offenders who prey on such girls, that make women much more vulnerable.
Because of this, any parent who allows her or his teenage daughter (especially if she is an attractive young woman) to enter the public realm should do so knowing these risks. At the same time, there are real opportunities that come with exposure, so I wouldn’t condemn them for weighing the risks and continuing to access fame.
Second of all, aside from some female teacher-underage male student predatory behavior and criminality that have made headlines in recent years, there is not a parallel industry that specializes in adult women preying on underage boys. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, but it’s not as prevalent.
That so much of our David-beauty-appreciation talk is done through innuendo, humor, and self-deprecating bashful conversations is proof that, as women, this is relatively new territory we’re entering and we’re awkwardly articulating what we feel and are still quite baffled that an obviously innocent 17 year old could have us in a tizzy. For heaven’s sake, he had a hardened cynical comedian like Kathy Griffin eating out of the palm of his hand: he’s charming and sexy without the full knowledge of his appeal, and that throws us off. There are 17 year olds who are more self aware than David, but I may be speaking for myself when I say such self-aware guys at that age cannot be taking seriously because they’re just imitating what they see grown up men do. Responsible adults know this about minors, which is why we should also have a sense when lines are being crossed.
David has no pretense and that is part of his appeal, which is why I think we feel so at ease talking about his physicality. If he were the type of guy who opened up his shirt to bare his chest, or wore his jeans low -- a young teenage boy did that to me the other day; he saw me, and in an attempt to flirt with me, he pulled down his jeans low so I could check out his …um…stuff. I simply shook my head and told him to please pull his jeans back up and stop trying to look like a thug! (Oy! Hip hop culture and the foolish nonsense they’re telling young boys about how to be “sexy” and “masculine”) -- we would have already stopped taking him seriously.
Funny, Rascal mentioned the Perez Hilton shout out, and one of the commenters (who obviously doesn’t hold back on the sexual banter) said something to the effect of “I don’t know if I want to tuck him in to bed or make out with him.”
I guarantee you: if David were female, there would not be confusion about these conflicting feelings. In a high-tech porn culture that sexualizes all women, it would be perfectly fine to want to tuck in an innocent teenage girl to bed and climb in right alongside her.
So, as women (and the men who also appreciate David), I think it’s great to explore our feelings in this public forum without descending into crudity (even the innuendos mentioned here have been pretty tasteful IMHO). We bring a maturity and wisdom to understanding all aspects of David -- physically, spiritually, musically, etc. That we can articulate what it is that makes the young tweens and teens scream makes this a very enriching space.
As Abrra has said, this is not the space to try and enact a “code of conduct.”
Anyway, gotta run!
Until next time…
Thanks Kizzi for that info!
OK, I know I am spamming a little, but you have to listen to this to hear: David’s love of Canada and HIS vocal warm up (to die for!). The DJs love him. He sang “Crush” accompanying himself.
I’ve rarely posted, cuz by the time I come online everyone has called it a night. Wow, did not see this one coming. Guess it was inevitable. Amongst all the qualities that David has brought to us is his beauty -- physical, as well as his inner beauty. As I’ve said previously but sure no one has ever seen my posts (except JR & beebee, once) for me David’s music (instrument/voice) affects me both spiritually & sensually. At first I was embarassed to think of it as sensual, as this felt somehow wrong -- having raised 3 sons & coached boys Davids age. Never before have I had these feelings. But I couldn’t explain it’s affect, otherwise. The chills, unexpected tears, emotional outbreaks/downers (like sf, after Houston JB, beebee after sacJB) that were also affecting me. I feel his music affects me spiritually & sensually because he puts so much emotional feeling into it. Unfortunately, sometimes sensual translates to sexual overtones. Since I’m not privy to such knowlege about human nature, I can only suppose why? Perhaps others are affected in this same way, too? Sorry, I can’t explain it for me but I do understand why what has been said (mostly in jest & not of David), at times. It did seem like some were put in “time out” and that felt wrong.
IMAGINE (realized this while listening to LA benefit). If we were like David & just accept people for what they are not judging them by what they say or do (ie -- that legal prostitute, Priscilla Presley and this)? After watching the Kathy Griffin interview, I realized that David is so true to his beliefs (not just the religious ones). When she asked him why he calls David Cook, “Cook” and he followed with his explanation. She responded something to the effect, that he (Cook) calls him not very nice things. His response was “oh, that’s too bad”. True or not, that so impressed me. I think he realizes that everyone has their differences -- good or bad. He just accepts them for who they are. Not sure but I would quess that he doesn’t take too much personally, either. Otherwise, he would be a total mess. I probably make no sense & no one will see this comment, anyway.
Also, I love this site for the diverse opinions; great info on album, record success, various links to photos & esp videos; tech help (ie -file2HD); personal experiences & so-oooo much more. Thank you Rascal & all ND family.
fandaforever48 #157- I enjoyed your perspective. A lot of what you said resonates as like you this is a first time fan experience for me; and, for me it is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma and the journey to understand all these conundrums is fantastic.
On another note (this is anecdotal), my 21 year old baby did youth theater at the young age of 9 (acting, singing & dancing) and was invited to audition for a role on Broadway. We talked to agents at that point and they spelled out very specifically what to expect in the public eye as part of what goes along with being a youth performer. It was eye opening and the family gets an education. Essentially the family has to devote themselves to supporting the public life of their young one and grow a THICK skin if they don’t already have one. The only control the youth performer and family have is their decisions and subsequent behaviors. At first my young son was interested so we explored but he decided not to pursue performing.
I would speculate that David gets this as he always expresses the appreciation of his family’s support when he gets the opportunity and lately, he says he doesn’t want to be “greedy” about time spent with his mother and about his birthday. I mean, really, he is just too aWEsoME!
I always thought of David as that nerdy kid who sat behind me in school and annoyed the snot out of me…you know the kid who sang in the choir and wasn’t macho enough to play on the football team. My gosh, he’s shorter than me, too. And those chipmunk cheeks of his, and that overly big smile (who is he kidding).
Fast forward 10 years…reunion time. And there he is across the room from me. My heart jumps, my breathing gets rapid, my palms sweat, I tingle every where and he hasn’t even started to sing to us. Oh my! He still has chipmunk cheeks, he’s still shorter than me, he still doesn’t play football and that smile is still huge.
David hasn’t changed…just my perception of him.
Report on Snarky’s says David played the piano while singing Crush at the CHUM Breakfast in Toronto. He’s gearing up for that tour!
RE: Bookaholic -- #149
See, this is what really galls me about certain stripes of puritanism. It happens all the time. In her effort to characterize the discussions here in terms of vulgarity, Bookaholic has in fact succeeded in posting one of the most explicit phrases I have ever seen on this site: “her luscious breasts and their size. And, her yummy private parts.” — Are you freaking kidding me? Have there ever been any comparable phrases posted here about anyone? I confess I don’t read every last comment in each and every thread but I think I would have noticed if anything as remotely tasteless as that had been used to describe the subject of this blog.
In all-too typical fashion, an attempt to condemn the behavior of others has been made using worse behavior than that which is being condemned.
As a whole, the “reverse argument” falls apart mainly because it implies that there is something sexist going on here, or that there is some kind of double standard that, suddenly and inexplicably, is actually the cultural opposite of what has always been the case. In fact, I would be astonished if an adult male dominated blog about a seventeen year-old female singer were anywhere near as respectful and careful about its appreciation of her physical attributes as we are here about David. Innuendo would be the exception, not the rule, and the kind of flagrant vulgarity that Bookaholic uses would be par for the course.
Please, people: Let’s not use occasional instances of wink-wink nudge-nudge commentary as a broad brush with which to paint an entire conversation or community. And try, if you can, not to use the very tools you are trying to prohibit to make your points. It pretty much discredits your entire argument.
Firstly, Rascal, have I told you lately that I love you?
Second, I just have to comment about the sensuality issue surrounding David. Welcome, my friends, to the dichotomy that is David Archuleta. Here we have this innocent, sweet young man, still an Eagle Scout for crying out loud, who turns on a dime and takes a smoldering photoshoot, and sings with more passion than any 40 year old could? Processing this could make a person go a bit insane. Everyone has vastly differing views about sexuality, and this is dangerous territory to be sure. Judgements, accusations, fears, confusion, guilt -- the stuff that stirs the whole gamut of emotions, kind of like the subject himself.
People have different intentions. Some of us have met in real life, while many of us only know each other electronically. None of us feels each others experience of David, it in uniquely personal, but at the same time, what a blessing it is to have a community like this where we all “get” David, a place to come and share our feelings without the eye-rolling we get in the “real world”. We will never agree on every point, every song, every nuance of David. But I think we all agree that we love David, and that, my friends, is priceless.
I’m not here to judge or to be judged, I’m just here to hang out with others who love David, tight jeans or not.
PEACE
So you’re a puritan if you don’t think discussion of an innocent young man’s package is acceptable? That’s what the world has come to? Where have I been? Seems a bit extreme to me.
What I am trying to throw a light on is the difference between relatively innocuous gushing about David’s physicality and lasciviousness camouflaged with innuendo. I did not do any broad brushing that I’m aware of. The reason I read here regularly and post often is because I like the people here, the quality and nature of the commentary. If I was appalled by what went on here, I wouldn’t be around.
My issue is that it isn’t cool in my opinion to stick our noses in David’s groin. Most of him I think it’s fine to comment on. I just am not into making lewd comments about innocent young minors no matter how gorgeous the person or how veiled the verbiage.
My point with bringing up the opposite sex comparison was to make people think. The majority of women would be uncomfortable with sexual innuendo about an innocent young girl they cared about. In some rare instances of late, veiled commentary about David’s private parts crossed the line and was seen as vulgar to some of us.
I thought I made it clear that it was a incident on a recent thread and even brought over a specific reference that I was uncomfortable with…no broad brush that I know of. To implicate that I am some controlling, smothering school marm when all I want is a bit more respect for David strikes me as overreaction.
When it gets really smarmy, I’m creeped out. David is extremely dear to me, and that kind of demeaning, though cloaked, lewdness brings out the mother bear in me. Sorry.
IMHO, I think that David would think the above referenced remark coming from his wife would be hilarious and completely acceptable. From adult female and male fans--strangers--not so much.
Once again, Bookaholic, you employ some of the most vulgar language ever posted on this blog to try and make a point about avoiding such references. Your hypocrisy would be amusing if it didn’t involve such offensive phrases. Words matter.
As for overreaction, I’m afraid the tenor of your post attests quite clearly to the hypocrisies inherent there, too.
Um Rascal, do you take suggestions for new thread ideas? Perhaps we need a thread devoted entirely to the sensuality issue -- that way we can get it all out of our systems! LOL
David sings Crush on piano at Chum Fm Christmas Wish breakfast Toronto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-fcNtkJDCk
Ha ha, nice try, FunnyGirl!
I’ve stayed out of this discussion … until now:
The whole topic of the appropriateness of sexual innuendo is just so unimportant in the whole scheme of things. Ninety-five percent of the posters here have followed David since last spring, and have shared their love and admiration for David all along the way.
A common sentiment among many of us is that David is like a son or a brother. We love him to the depth of our souls! We feel his pains, his fatigue, his joys, his frustrations. To me — and I suspect for most of us here on this blog — David’s sexuality is just a single star in the “wonderwall of stars” that comprise what David is. And frankly, I think it’s one of the lesser stars that’s way out at the edge of the galaxy in terms of importance.
I think I’m struggling to make my point …
To me this depth of love transcends any kind of physical love. We’re talking here about a spiritual communion that’s far more beautiful and powerful than anything having to do with tight jeans. So to worry about the occasional — and probably rare — innuendo about such things just seems like a colossal waste of time.
Being primarily a lurker (time and computer issues) I’m just going to hop on here and agree with Caseydog. I’m not taking any bait to get into uncomfortable discussions. I adore this site… I’m here every day like clockwork and I appreciate all the gems I see posted, along with some occasionally hilarious stuff. Bottom line is I will sort through what “works for me” and remain completely devoted to all that is David Archuleta.
btw who’s going to lowell, MA? I’m still working on NYC which would be a double bonus. My dear friend in LA gave me such wonderful details of the tree lighting and the time spent with David’s family. He was simply incredible. Of course he was.
OK.. .here we go~
Bookaholic~~In regards to the above mentioned “package” you are so offended by, you might want to read the entire “book” before making YOUR own assumptions on a few lines you chose to read…what is it they say?..”do the research”….here is a link you may want to look at and all the good it stands for……..
http://cgi.ebay.com/David-Archuleta-s-Bracelet-Shirt-CD-and-Signed-Poster_W0QQitemZ230312173265QQihZ013QQcategoryZ18839QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
and as far as the “ruler”….again go back and see exactly when and where it was originally brought up and how it is being used… .You can do your own research on this one, I am not doing it for you, but I will give you some direction..Nuns and knuckles…..Yes that right-, knuckes and nothing else….I guess you have made it clear where YOUR thoughts are….JMHO….
I do not know why I feel that I have to defend any of my comments as I feel no line has been crossed or even come close but when someone chooses to attack I will defend….
#166 -That piano performance of “Crush” is OUTSTANDING. (I hope it isn’t getting lost in the shuffle.)
While I appreciate the level of our emotions regarding this subject, I really wish we would “change the channel”.The most wonderful thing about this blog is our deep respect and love of ” anything David”. Anytime I felt the subject was not for me, I skipped over. I would be extremely bummed if the heartfelt subjects discussed (with class, I feel), ever stopped. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed. I gain knowledge from many things on this blog and deeply respect many of the writers here.
Logging on late due to…ah never mind, not important!
David singing CRUSH & playing the piano!! Scenes of the future..When David is past the “pop” stage and onto the “serious” stuff he obviously (to me anyway) wants to do..but maybe we won’t have to wait..maybe he’ll have a piano for his SOLO concerts..It’s a must! Oh I love watching him move about the stage, but he is sublime when he plays piano & sings! Yup, just David, THE VOICE, a piano, & a mic..oh yeah & his band!
Can I say David looks beautiful this morning in a black jacket & scarf! Stay warm, David!
I also watched all the better videos of David’s performance in Houston..Yeah, he was great! THE VOICE sounded effortless! He did a small “hunkerdown” that I must have missed?? How could I?? My eyes were glued to his every move, so how did I miss it? Oh yeah, it was when the girls in front of me jumped up & down, screaming! That was why! Dang it!
silverfox~ welcome home..we have missed you. :}
Bliss…oh Rascal how you have captured my feelings for David with the title of this blog. Let me preface my post here with a heartfelt thank you for all of the interesting and diverse opinions expressed here. There are many thought provoking topics that have made me stop and really analyze what my feelings are about certain subjects and where I stand, and that is a wonderful thing.
Now, can I share with you my feelings when I had the pleasure to see and hear the videos from the LA Tree Lighting. For the very first time since hearing David sing in SLC, I could “feel” the song on a video. The chills, tingles, and tears were instant with O Holy Night. A Thousand Miles…I can’t even describe what I am feeling at this gift from David. To witness his joyful exuberance when he is performing this song for me is like a little extra whipping cream on the pumpkin pie! Oh David, it will kill me if I never have the chance to experience you performing live again!
My husband doesn’t understand my feelings and devotion for David, and at times I think he feels like I am a little out there! He didn’t attend the concert with me, so he has not had the opportunity to hear David sing in person. I told him that he will never understand what I feel until he sees and hears this beautiful, beautiful young man sing in person. That voice resonates into the very core of my soul. All I could do when I experienced hearing David sing in person was to sit there in awe, probably looking like a crazed fool, with tears streaming down my face. Honestly, I was emotionally and physically overwhelmed and exhausted after his very short set on the AI tour. I am amazed that I felt that stirring in my soul again watching the videos from LA. Somehow, the videos from jwipe on YouTube captured the VOICE and wow…what a treat!
Have you all watched the YouTube video by jwipe of David singing Imagine? This is what David is all about. Love and Peace for everyone. His heart is so available in this song! I love it!!
I had to come out of hiding this morning to thank you all for the “vigorous” discussions last night. Hopefully, everyone feels better this morning and we can all be friends. “Barriers” has a great message inside the words if you let yourself go there.
SF--I love your nightly prayer for David. I’m sure we are of different religions, but I can feel your spirit of love and concern for David. It’s hard being a mom/grandma and not feel concern for someone young and vulnerable to the public. I hope he can spend some “quiet time” at home for the holidays and get some much needed rest.
I hope someday to be able to see him perform live--maybe even get to meet him. (swoon)
LuckyAngel- I feel the same as you do about David and love it when someone else can say it as beautifully as you and many others here do.
Just went over to Snarky Archies and saw the pics from the Pepsi Video at the florist shop. He is the sweetest thing and the pic in front of the first Loteria card- “ay ay mi corazon!!!” (The mexican bingo card that looks like a heart)
He has pierced my heart with his singing and just like the arrow on that Loteria card. I sigh and am blissfully happy right now.I
olemr & SF: I enjoyed the Chum FM Crush and watching him play piano for the first time when he sang Crush. Catch the interview if you can and listen to him to his vocal warm up -- it is to die for adorable!! There are just a few rare people in this life that are so genuinely sweet and so naturally funny and David is one of them.
The DJs loved him and they actually deflected a fan question about marrying him quite beautifully. David is getting so good at interviews and he did so a lightspeed pace. So….hmmmm….I guess this is the sound of my heart opening --gush, gush, gush!
SF#173, Yeah, a hunkerdown! And I caught a Diva hand on WFM on the Houston video.
Where can I catch the Chum FM interview?
tawna21 -- Snarky’s has some of it in video; I didn’t hear the vocal warm up though -- I think it was before the videographer began recording!
tawna21~ David Chum FM interview with vocal warmups……
http://www.chumfm.com/music/ListenLive.asp
click on ON-DEMAND on left side navigation bar…….
very cute……
sorry`~ then you will see menu of interviews… davids is the first one on top…..enjoy……..
First off, Rascal, I love it when you talk about THE VOICE and his intelligence on what to do with it (this, and O Voice Divine). “soulful and longing, but with an unwavering sense of hope; like melancholy delivered with light” and “David’s impeccable taste shields him from doing too much or too little with his stylings.” Yes!!
Second, very late to comment here (I’m usually a lurker anyway), but in response to the topic at hand…. I totally get the whole dichotomy of David Archuleta. His on-stage sensuality is undeniable. But off-stage, I want to give him a high-five and tell him he did a good job. So for me, I am of the camp that feels uncomfortable about talk on certain body parts. I understand that people have different boundaries, and different interpretations of what David considers as “respecting him”. What I love about this site is that people can speak their opinions without feeling like tomatoes are being thrown at them. There are never mal intentions, but there is difference in how one views the comments. For me, it’s had a rather indirect, yet personal impact.
About a month ago, Rascal was so gracious to feature my story about a gift I gave to David, along with photos. The cover photo ended up on other sites, and it stirred up talk focused on the lower part of David’s body. Nothing was said outright, but the innuendos were obvious. Personally speaking, I was disheartened, as I felt my gesture to David was, in a way…cheapened. I felt that the place I was coming from — a place of deep respect and admiration for David — was being devalued. I felt embarrassed to even be in that photo with him, even though it was taken so very innocently. What I resolved to was that I completely internalized that that feeling. Because while most here have maintained a certain level on anonymity, my story, that photo, did not.
I want to be clear that I am not challenging, passing judgment, or calling anyone out, here or on any fansite. I’ve had this opinion before the photo, and still do. Nor am I making a claim to how David would feel, as I do not ‘know’ him. At the end of the day, we all still share that “collective love” for David, and I would not want to stay away from a site simply because I do not agree on the appropriateness of the discussion. I have read your posts, met some of you personally, have talked with some of you personally, and it’s all love there. It just comes down to personal choice whether or not to participate. It always has been.
I entered the blogging world in March (on other boards) because of David and my ODD. It’s still quite weird for me. I’m a person who usually feels more comfortable verbally communicating one-on-one, with the use of my hands, body language, tone of voice, etc. Here, your words are your face, and it’s quite intimidating with so many articulate writers, all of whom I respect very much. I guess this was my long-winded way of agreeing with others who choose not to engage in these topics. But I also applaud smanda for “providing the diversity” on this thread. It was yet another opportunity to display the depth of our love and admiration for David, despite our differences. Thanks for letting me vent.
djb..You know it takes several days to wind down and process the whole “Can’t buh-lieve I saw David” experience! It’s like I know it happened but it’s a little surreal, still. And It was OVER way too quickly!
Anyway, I wanted the “controversy” to subside. It took a lot of willpower not to post my thoughts..but a very wise lady ( thanks, Liz! ) gave me great advice, so I refrained. But I do have one thing to say..If I thought that this site which is lovingly dedicated to this wonderfully gifted young man who has brought so much joy to so many, and changed so many just by “being”, was ever disrespectful or disloyal to David in any way, I and I know many other posters here would have said ADIOS long ago.The bond we have here is all FOR LOVE OF DAVID.
Thank God for rascal’s notingdavid! This is our outlet, a much needed gathering place for fans like myself. I was at a loss as to how to express my gratitude to David for what he has done for me in my life, and finding ND opened that door for me,. it’s a vehicle where I can open up and rejoice with my fellow posters who feel the same about David. We simply love David unconditionally. If I thought that anything I say would hurt David, it would kill me. Like my own kids, he is very important in my life, even if he never knows it. And it’s made me a better mom, a better sister, a better person than I was before David.
So thank you David & rascal!
silverfox~ ….we here..get it and know it….FOR THE LOVE OF DAVID..AMEN…..
Now if you have not already~~go listen to the vocal warmups……PRICELESS…
.http://www.chumfm.com/music/ListenLive.asp
click on ON-DEMAND on left side navigation bar…….
A Thousand Miles is up to approx. 90,000 views at YouTube. This proves to me that David, even though Jive thinks so, doesn’t need all of the studio devices to sing a song that will capture America’s intention. Someday I will find the CD in the store from David, just him, a piano and a guitar.
I don’t think there is any other young pop singer with the courage to sing a “religious” Christmas Carol at the end of a set at a pop concert, and then to do it Acapella. And to have radio stations play it…what are they thinking? The voice triumphs over cynicism.
More and more we are seeing the “real” David. The guy who wants nothing more than to bring music to the masses. He just LOVES singing live. It is his passion and his destiny. Aren’t we glad that we are here to watch and listen.
Thanks for your thoughts, np1107. For the record, I don’t believe there was even a single comment here about that photograph of the kind you refer to. I did see comments elsewhere.
At the risk of beating a dead horse (don’t worry, the page will turn very shortly), the reason this subject ever came up in the first place is because David himself (allegedly) made a decision to, evidently, turn up the dial on his stage presence in some rather entertaining ways. Certain performance decisions (as I originally referred to this) have certain consequences, all of which are theoretically on the table for discussion in a blog that is primarily about David’s performances. No one is mouth-breathing over random photographs; the subject was legitimately referenced as part-and-parcel of what appeared to be something of a “new freedom” in his performance persona. Period, full-stop.
some peolple can be at times ostentatious…
others adopt the role of disciple…
bookaholic is neither…you have been deemed…vulgar
welcome to the ether
tawna and sf -- video of interview on youtube — David demonstrates vocal warm-up
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zuYi1lAOTBY
np1107, So sorry to hear that your lovely gesture felt compromised. But in the end, surely the most important part of that experience was that David was able to meet you, to talk with you, and to appreciate the love and beauty that went into your project for him. That part can’t be touched by anyone.
stenocruiser..thanks for the link! I just couldn’t get the the radio station on-demand up!!
Isn’t he so much fun! So that’s the secret to his sublime
vocals!! Doing a kind of “rasberry’ while holding your cheeks!
He really likes it there in Toronto! Didn’t he say he wanted to live there??
SF- I loved the vocal warm-up -- it made me smile BIG TIME! He does love Canada!
Tess,
You articulated the same thought I had when I watched David’s acoustic performance of Crush from this morning. Usually, when an entertainer performs a piece live, I’m missing the background instrumentation and/or vocals or other production devices. With David, the exact opposite is true… the less the better. I am obsessed with the AOL sessions because imo they are so much better than the CD versions because they aren’t “produced.” His voice is really all I need.
This ODD is really something. I cannot believe I am still this focused on him. His face has become almost as familiar to me as my own children’s. I am so aware that I do not know him, and yet, he is so dear to me. Thank goodness for this loving site, where I can come and be reassured that I am not out of my mind!
stenocruiser /190~ thanks for the vid. link..I did not know that was out there….too cute…just too cute….I have said it before David is a treat a day ..in some way, whether it be a song version, new photos, something he says in an interview etc….THAT was my treat for today…ArchuAdorable at its best….and Yes I KNOW he is almost 18 and not 5….he is still adorable and will be at 90 as far as I am concerned……that just made me smile…..