Knowing David

I received an interesting correspondence from a member who expressed an interest in discussing the implications of David’s choices of favorite music and musical artists, as evidenced by things like his “song of the day” suggestions. The only concern I have about highlighting this as a topic is our ability to confine discussion here to David’s artistic interests and inclinations. Comments could very easily lead to speculation about David’s personal life and private thoughts, and as those are not supported categories of discussion on notingDavid (at least not until such time as David decides to make them public knowledge), I would ask that we please be extremely careful and respectful in this regard.
I did want to blog about this perhaps especially because the member who wrote to me expresses what I fear is a fairly common set of perceptions and expectations among the DA fan base, views that I feel are at least in part somewhat misguided. In regards the song, “A Stranger in Moscow,” my correspondent speculates on what contributes to David’s enthusiasm for this song:
…Is it the “message” -? That’s what scares me about our David liking this song. His life to present has been so “special” – does he feel isolated deep inside – does he feel he has to go out in the rain at night to find new friends?
And, later on, this:
… (I) wonder what a “young”, barely-18-year-old-Mormon-boy with such wonderful gifts and talents sees in Jason Mraz …I guess I’m “judging” him personally with lyrics (such as those) from “Butterfly” that just don’t seem to fit with the image of what I feel DA is trying to create.
First and foremost, I do not agree that David is trying to create or maintain a particular public image. That strikes me as far too contrived for him. David simply is who he is, and as many have already remarked, not all of his fans are likely to agree with all of his choices as his career unfolds, and I dare say quite a few of them are likely to be very surprised by a few things–especially things like lyrics.
Even though I do not believe it is a contrivance, David’s public persona is just that — the public face of a private person. I do not believe it is disingenuous, but neither does it represent by any means all that David is as a person. It is enticing to buy into the “sweet Mormon boy” image (an image created not by him but by public interpretations of his manner and his biography), but this view is a caricature. David may be sweet and he may be Mormon, but he is also a fully realized human being, now an adult, with all that that implies.
All one has to do is listen to any of the slightly more serious songs that David has recorded and it is instantly clear that he has a depth of understanding about the human condition that suggests both an inner and outer life that involves far more complexity and contradiction than may be hinted at in any dimension of his expression or persona except his music. As I have said before, David does “darkness” very well. Michael Jackson is a highly controversial figure, and it does not surprise me that David identifies with him; the innate musical genius, the child-like wonder, and, yes, the isolation, the darkness, of being so uncommon.
As for the highly sexualized nature of the some of the music produced by some of David’s favorite artists, just because David currently chooses not to engage in such expressions in his own work, doesn’t mean he rejects or cannot appreciate such aspects in the work of others. I confess I would be far more concerned if David harbored some categorical repudiation of anything beyond the bounds of strict piety (I’ve decided to consider the shorts drawing incident an aberration; besides, life and art are two very different worlds for David). That is decidedly not the framework within which artistic temperament tends to flourish.
Finally, I have a distinct sense that we will always know a lot more about David from his music and from his appreciation and discussion of music than we will ever know otherwise. On the one hand, I think it is easy to read too much into these musical selections, on the other hand they are probably more revealing than any interview will ever be.
Bravo! I would hate to see David boxed in to a single stereotypical persona. He is a complex human being with experiences and an inner landscape that we can only speculate about. I think we should just enjoy the parts of himself that he shares with us and watch as his personality and style unfold.
Rascal this post is so rich and I sort of feel I’m in a maze rather than on a yellow brick path.
I am not comfortable reading too much into his music choices as a means of uncovering the private David. Humans are moved by different pieces of music for a variety of reasons. Sometimes the reasons overlap, often not.
Especially at his age! I probably would have been singing all the words to Butterfly and not even have known what Mraz was talking about. There was a lot of 70′s music I loved and lived on a different plane than some others. And I wasn’t the only one.
I have more I want to say about the isolation and darkness (touche), but I have to give my thoughts a fair chance to hit the page in a facsimile of coherent communication. After work.
Rascal – GAH!
I especially liked your reference to David feeling different from other people (“…being so uncommon”). He has commented on this himself (“my friends think I’m a nerd for tracking all the Billboard charts, I know I’m weird”). Although it’s one of the things that also makes him stand out, I’m sure he does feel a camaraderie with others that share his intensity about music.
Rascal, I agree with you that David is not “trying to create or maintain a particular public image”. He is who he is and he let’s us see who he is on a particular day that he performs or is photographed in public. We like to think we know him but we know part of him. No one can truly and completely know anyone fully except themselves. He knows who he is and he gives us spectacular glimpses all the time.
He’s 18 years old with prodigious vocal and musical talent. We see things he does and hear things he says that shows what a genuinely humble, sincere and good person he is. We love everything molecule of him. But again, he’s 18 and his favorite artists and song selections, I may presume, fluctuate as he himself changes. I wouldn’t think he scrutinizes every lyric an artist has written with a judgmental eye thinking, I wouldn’t sing this lyric or use that word. He may not like every single song one of his current favorite artists has recorded. I think he likes what he hears when he hears it, picks it apart, learns from it what he can and stores it in his jukebox memory (IMHO). And we are along for the ride to hear the product.
Interesting thoughts rascal…excellent reading.
I often listen to the online church service from Orange County, California…with world renown Dr. H. Schuller. I have followed his amazing services for years and his messages are inspiring and insightful…
I saw the following message given by a guest of The Hour of Power, Pastor Juan Carlos Ortiz. (sp?),.his subject is…”The True Personality”
The address is…the hour of power.org …click on to …The Hour of Power…then…The True Personality…
He is enjoyable to listen to and reminds us of many things…
Mistake with the address I gave…it is…hourofpower.org…
Rascal…Thank you for this place. You are truly appreciated. As Cuba Gooding says, you are “the Quan”. Please feel free to use a red marking pen on my posts. Articulating my thoughts and feelings has never been a strong suit of mine.
Outstanding post, Rascal.
I see so much of myself in David. He grew up in a suburban area and went to a high school with similar dynamics to other high schools. I left that environment and went to a college (shall be unnamed) with a artsy, freethinking, creative, and thoughtful bent, and the school also has a very famous school of music, so most students (if they were in the conservatory or not like myself) were fairly proficient musicians or were passionate about music in some way.
David may not have the experience of going to college in a typical fashion right now, but I’m glad he is meeting others in the industry who share his passions for the same things. He is not weird or strange, and hopefully as his support system of top musicians grows, we’ll hear less of that self-doubting talk.
SandyBeaches #5 Thanks for sharing that – I just watched the video – very thought-provoking indeed – thanks again and my prayers are with you still. Hugs!
Well said.
I have written and deleted two comments to this. Let’s say I feel strongly about people lumping him into this category or that.
I do believe he listens carefully and digests the songs meanings. And that he has such exquisite taste it sometimes shocks me that he is only 18.
Great post, Rascal. What David’s eclectic song choices reinforce for me is that he is music personified.
(Although, when I bought Sara Bareilles’ CD and heard the swearing, I had a good laugh trying to imagine David singing along….)
It is those who even suggest that anyone is different or as you say weird…who are at the bottom of the totem pole.. they do not have the given ability to understand…becoming a less fortunte person…
I think that every given moment with David should be spent in understanding him as much as he wants us to and I think that we do…He can not be an open book…
That is a great post, Rascal.
Let him know the Dark, so that he can be the Light.
archiesfan4life…I enjoyed the speaker myself. Dr. Schuller at one time gave all of the addresses when he wasyounger and not travelling the world speaking at UN meetings etc…The most wonderful speaker that I have ever heard…If I had to choose two people in the world besides my family to be the only people around us they would be Dr. Schuller and David…he has had most everyone imaginable there as guests and I wrote them awhile ago to offer a suggestion of having David perform…they would give him a standing “O” for sure…Their Sunday service is on every week and is there for a week…Presidents, athletes, musicians and everyone have been guests of Dr. Schuller…
Fsteven – well said.
Rascal, I love the image — I believed you created it yourself — you selected for this post. For me, it’s so symbolic — he is all alone in his journey, the aloneness brought about by his extraordinary gift and being so “uncommon,” as you put it. What’s comforting to me about this image is that he does not seem to be burdened by his extraordinariness. Rather, he is happy and is waiving to all of us (family, friends, fans), as if to say “I will be OK.”
One of my biggest concerns for David has always been that the scrutiny he is under as he becomes more and more popular will make him reluctant to share things with his fans.
It bothers me that people are analyzing him so intensely with regard to his musical tastes, especially while he’s trying to share them with us.
The kid loves and appreciates music, all kinds of music, for all kinds of reasons. What’s so mystical about that?
(Did I just sound curt?) This irritates me.
I heard him say once how surprised he was that people want to know everything about him and you know we don’t need to…he has his private personality….
Joner I agree he should not be analyzed because he has not offered anything to us but his music and his love for other music to share with us…
He has backed off from the limelight and looked for privacy…for his own piece of mind I would guess…
Is that your house at the end of the path Rascal? Nice digs!
Joner, do you know what that would cost in Manhattan…If we all gave Rascal a nickel every time we visited here then I’m positive he could afford it
I think we should have the fanvention there!
What can I bring?
David?
Yes, Joner, David’s marvelous, perilous, cathartic, expressive, tumultuous, magical journey is to MY PLACE. Ha! Poor Archie would die of boredom.
Hello everyone – I just came back today to confess that I have embarked on a hectic schedule and don’t see it letting up any time soon. I have to reduce my time on the fan boards accordingly, but I am still no less fervent a fan!!
Don’t have time to read other comments, but just wanna say I totally agree with your post, Rascal, in terms, of defining the proper scope of discussion for our forum and also the observations you DO make…
As for the private event idea, It would be uber awesome… My first thought honestly is that it’s not possible – David is too busy, etc., etc. But then again… I find it hard to think David doesn’t want to maintain some face-to-face connection to his most devoted, die-hard fans, those who are ready at the drop of the hat to do everything we can on our part to support his career and to spread his message of love and inspiration to others.
I haven’t read the entire thread, but my guess is it might be a possibility if we put on a special event for David and his family, a way for us to show our love and appreciation for everything they have done, and to show they will have our full support in their journey. A chance to present poetry, awards, gifts, etc…
ronaldsf — It’s really more a of a private party with David as the guest of honor and the entertainment, with a five-figure fee. Simple and elegant. No awards, no long speeches. But I agree that it is a long shot, at least this year.
wow, rascal…
I have read your words over & over..and especially the “member’s” concerns or fears that David is this or that cuz of his choice of Stranger in Moscow..saying David’s life has been so “special” up to the present..
Thing is, we don’t know what David’s life was like before AI..was it a “charmed life?” We don’t know, but because we fell in love with him, we want that to be true,,but we don’t really know. Because we love him so, we want to think he’s never had darkness, or any unpleasantness in his life..I think that is an unrealistic perception..but we don’t really know.
Those who wonder why he admires who he admires..perhaps it’s because they do what they do with no reservations and they are who they are with no pretenses. I think David is who he is and will inevitably do what he wants to do musically and lyrically. I think rascal is correct that David will reveal himself as much or as little as he wants in his compositions.
I hate to think that the “member” who wrote rascal was more concerned that David admires Michael Jackson who has become less than a role model..but that makes me admire David even more..he does not judge..Obviously, Michael’s private life is of no concern to David..he simply admires the artistry in Michael and isn’t afraid to say so.
There goes that word “image” again..What does it mean? All I can say is what I’ve been saying..David’s true fans will be fans unconditionally..the way he was yesterday, today, tomorrow and for the rest of his career. Whtever direction David chooses to go in, whatever he chooses to do, I hope he continues to let us be a part of his journey.
I will wait as patiently as I can..and it’s hard..for David to reveal more of himself when he releases more of his very own compositions. He has so much he wants to say musically..I really believe that.
I didn’t intend to post anything yet..just a couple of words to let rascal know how much this subject of “knowing David” affected me..Sorry about my rambling!
And you’re not gonna buh-lieve this…Works For Me on my mp3 player right this minute! hahaha!
Fsteven.#13..couldn’t have said it better myself..
Delurking from work here – Joner #17 – very well put, and I couldn’t agree more.
David is, among other things, very musically inclined. I have very eclectic tastes in music and I can find at least some tidbit that I like in just about anything I listen to – a lyric, a guitar lick, part of a bass line, a particular rhythm, a modulation, or perhaps not much more than a single note – timed just right. I suspect, at least to some point, David is the same way – he can listen to a song and pick out something he likes and because it’s something he thinks perhaps others may enjoy, he designates it as a ‘song of the day’. If nothing else, it encourages his fans to perhaps broaden their musical tastes a bit.
I think overanalyzing David’s musical preferences is an unhealthy endeavor. (Just my two-cents worth…)
Eh, it seems that everything that David does is put under a microscope by people looking to find hidden meaning. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
I’m a bit sleepy and pissed, not at you Rascal, but at those who just expect too much from David. Who worry too much about David. Hell, we all feel isolated at times, period. That is part of the human condition. Worrying about him feeling separate because of his specialness is just projecting, imho. I don’t see a young man carryiing the weight of the world on his shoulders. I see a young man, living, learning, teaching, trying, and having a damn blast doing it. I say his next recommendation should be Gavin’s take on Marvin Gaye’s Sexual Healing. That will make some heads explode. Eff em, I say. Analyze that!
I don’t want to analyze David. I think he’s a well rounded young man with expansive, inclusive tastes. He’s hardly the little overprotected robotic Mormon boy that many expected. I think that confuses people. Don’t understand it, but I guess it’s always a shock when you make assumptions that turn out to be false.
Nice post Rascal. I agree.
I listen to alot of dark music. Depressing subject matters, heavy emotional tones often of despair, hate and loss. There is a whole region of music where that a song like that is as common as a song about love in pop music. One of my other musical loves is a progressive band called Dream Theater. Their drummer is a recovering alcoholic and they have written 3 songs documenting the pain and trouble of the AA 12 steps program. Its not ‘happy’ listening but I still enjoy it. But then, I would not say im a depressed or unhappy person or in any way related to the dark music I often listen to. Ive had my moments and periods but we all do, just because I listen to it and enjoy does not mean i neccesarily ‘am it’ or relate to it. Some of it you do, some of it you dont.
I think the thing with David is he has such a happy bright front, its hard to really imagine any sort of darkness or unhappiness in him. Hes human, hes been there im sure. The only time ive ever caught a glimpse of it was that article about his first friends in school and how it was tough for him. Stuff like that stays with you and im sure hes had other stuff like that before too. I do believe he is an innately happy person but like all people, hes had his bumps along the way and when you are THAT good at something, isolation often comes with it. I think thats another reason why he values his family so much, they are the antidote to that. As for the sexual stuff, well the conservative christian attitude can be boggling for alot of young people over how they express it or how much they talk about in public but what I see there I dont think is anything out of the ordinary.
Growing up is tough, even if you are David
Taking a quick lunch break to concur with Brooklyndawn. Honestly, I never thought to analyze any of the song lyrics to David’s song of the day choices. I’ve been listening to the quality of the music more than anything, especially since lyrics are just one aspect of a song.
I’m baffled, actually, that anyone would read into his choice of Michael Jackson’s Stranger in Moscow. It’s a good song. Nothing more, nothing less.
I get the ODD that we all experience, and I’m as into a good analysis of David’s music and music choices as the next fan. But, let’s not needlessly worry when there’s no real reason to.
BTW..David has already composed a song that is both dark and sad….FALLING. Listen very closely to the lyrics..he wrote it in the “first person”, no less? He was going through his vocal paralysis..so maybe he was going through some dark & sad times himself and wrote this song…he was able understand that kind of pain. Some of David’s fans won’t listen to this song, cuz it is too dark & sad..even though David put his heart & soul in it..and fought to get it on his album…
What does that say about David? To me it says he’s human, and life is not all “rainbows & unicorns”, not even for David..even though we want it to be so..
We don’t really know do we?
Silverfox #31 – “What does that say about David…”
I think the fact that he put an optimistic tilt to the end of “Falling” speaks volumes about David, don’t you?
Joner, yes..That you may be in the thoes of the darkest time in your life..what may see like a bottomless abyss, that there can be more..that life can be more. That there can be light. No one knows that more than I.
It’s sad that more people don’t HEAR what David is trying to say in FALLING..it’s so beautiful. And his Voice is hauntingly sublime!
Brilliant post rascal.
I think about public and private life and how tough it can be to maintain the private and how very important it is to have that separation and intentionally set and maintain healthy boundaries. That statement is true for all of us but to an exponential degree for those in the limelight.
My belief is that some fans want a “piece” of whatever it is that has made David a celebrity and what that “piece” is unique to each fan. I think what is unhealthy is those that have a desire to see their own values reflected back to them as if to prove self-worth, a cherished “truth”, a personal “ideal” rather than embracing David for who “he is” as a celebrity. Do fans see David or do they see a beautiful mirror reflecting their deeply held hopes & dreams, their inner selves back at them–in essence do they want him to be a validation of themselves or their life’s path. That is the albatross that I hope isn’t in play.
The puzzle isn’t David, he is transparent. The puzzle, to me, is the impact one gifted young man has had. But, then, rascal, I think you summed it up nicely at least for me….”his voice encompasses the universe.”
Sometimes I can just hear David saying (about us), “Who are these people?” “haha”
#29 chenson – Great post!
mamasaun…hahaha! you are pro-buh-blee right!
But we love him so!!
I apologize if this post is a bit off-topic, but I believe it to be relative. It is vital to the continuing success of David’s career, that we double our support at this particular time….and here is why.
(It is my opinion that this site is read and contributed to, by more adults than any other of David’s fan sites…I would not think of expressing these thoughts on those other sites.)
Surveys have told us that approximately 50 percent of David’s fans are teens and tweens. Jive, being a business, may think of David as a commodity, and was probably wise to release the rather ‘vanilla pop’ album to ‘strike while the iron is hot’ with this younger crowd, simply said…to make money. Please note that I am not ‘dissing’ this album…I’m thoroughly enjoying it…but firmly believe that David’s talent and skills have only had their proverbial surfaces scratched by this album’s content. My point is…history has shown that many (note…not all) of these younger fans, primarily female, will move their loyalty to the next ‘cute’ boy singer or boy band.
Many (note….not all) are motivated by “hype”…case in point…a certain ‘brothers boy band’ whose vocals can be altered by engineers in a studio setting with auto-tune and like electronic devices to make their vocals acceptible….but hearing them live, one realizes that their vocal skills are minimal….they succeed with HYPE and being Diseyfied!…on a bed of razzle-dazzle stage presence.
Over the ‘long haul’ I believe that all of us hope that David’s masterful vocal skills and his beyond amazing persona will continue to reach out to more and more of the world’s people. However, we should be prepared for a possible ‘drop off’ of support from some (note…not all) of his younger fan base. Therefore, with all of the faithful, dedicated and intelligent fans on this site, I am suggesting that together, we find ways to build this necessary momentum.
Finally….thanks for reading this message. Also, a ‘thank you’ to Rascal for this fantastic site, and thanks from this lurking reader for all of the wonderful fans of David who post on this site!
Teen years are INTENSE in so many ways. Just because David is uber talented, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be intense for him as well. I think it may be that David intensely admires and respects those who are able to express themselves, musically, and *what* exactly they are expressing could be almost irrelevant to him personally. He may simply recognize that it’s what *they* felt and expressed so intensely, and good for them!! The lyrics in any given song may well reveal *nothing* about David himself.
My amateur musical expression (guitar, singing) has shifted entirely to pop music in the last year (thanks to… uh-huh, you guessed it) and just because I love love LOVE to sing Pink’s “I Don’t Believe You”, it doesn’t mean there is anyone in my life whom I disbelieve. It just FEELS so good to sing the song because of the pitch, how it fits with my own voice, the melody, the intensity, how it is constructed lyrically—it’s just an awesome song (to me). But the lyrics don’t say anything that’s relevant to me, personally.
David has shown he is intensely analytical as well (the charts; inquiry into “why was that song so successful”, etc.) I think it’s all just part of his own personal PhD program. Not a good idea to read anything into *why* he loves a song, there are many many aspects to that why, and we’ll not likely know any of them.
Rascal, thanks for this post.
” Let him know the Dark, so that he can be the Light.
fsteven, you are so right.
We all learn from all that is around us. We make choices, good or bad, and we learn from them. David is not different. He just seems to be ahead of some of us.
Judging his choice of music is something he would never do to us. I love his suggestions of songs to listen to. I love hearing what he enjoys. He has given me new insight into artists and the songs they sing.
Thank you David!
Thanks for blogging about this, Rascal; it has been a source of frustration for me for some time now. I think some fans want to put David on a pedestal and not allow him to be fully human. He’s not an angel. As you stated, “he is a fully realized human being, now an adult, with all that that implies.” He has all the parts and passions that go with that condition. What at times irks me is when well-meaning fans try to interpret whatever David sings as a literal statement. Barriers. I think it’s about an intimate couple on the precipice of separating forever. But I have read some posts on another site about how it can’t be about that because that bothers them that David would go there. So they put the couple on a grassy knoll or on the beach and make the relationship platonic. Please. It makes my head hurt to see them jump through hoops to save him from himself. An artist doesn’t have to have lived an experience to understand it. Artists feels things on many levels. At some point we all have been lonely or sad or scared or angry. We have all been afraid of failure or of being abandoned. All of us are endowed with sexual desire. It is what makes us human. The intensity of these feelings is often stonger in an artistic temperament. They enrich the soul and are the wellspring of great art. I am not troubled by David’s choices in music. He is a young man of great genius and integrity. I trust him to “Choose the Right.” Whether those choices will be what others would like I don’t know. But it will be what works for him. That works for me.
Highervibe… your thoughts echo mine. I have always trusted the Archulater. His amazing knowledge and appreciation of artists and songs knows no bounds and seems to have little to do with his life and standards for how he lives it. That early vid of him singing “I’ll Be” to his school mates with the line about “we’re lying here in my bed” just told me he loved the song, liked performing it and that it had no relevance to him personally. I’ve come to rely on his suggestions of what to listen to and it’s just interesting good music… that’s all. It doesn’t reflect anything about him for suggesting it or me for liking it.
And I do so VERY much hope he continues to post his song of the day—in spite of any misunderstandings people may have about why he likes it, or what it means to him personally—it’s so much fun to learn of new artists, or new songs by old artists!! I’m sooooooo enjoying learning about artists that **David** likes!!! He’s got such great, wide-ranging tastes.
Awesome post Rascal. Much food for thought.
#19 Joner – rascal’s “house” – LOL.
Got me thinking that if the pix is notingDavid land, then if we follow the yellow brick road we would meet along the way, rascal the “brains”, HG, “the courageous one” (fiesty) and SF, of the beautiful “heart,” on the journey.
Love where everyone took this while I was gone. Such a bunch of respectful fans we are, here on the yellow brick road. But if David decides to perform Butterfly a lot of ladies might audition for back up dancers….
*just smacked self*
BrooklynDawn and Joner – Great posts. Concur.
David manages to give to his fans endlessly, openly and honestly without seeming to chip away at himself. After a year of throwing his everything onto the new stages, and into the dizzying array of interviews and fan mobs, he glows more than ever. He divulges what he wants (more than I would probably) and I just take him at face value and wait for his next rambling (don’t ever stop David) opus. That is enough for me. R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
Part of the experience of art is its appreciation which involves at times, some analysis. This is what makes it more exciting – what people bring to it. Ten people can get 10 different interpretations of a single work of art.
This is what I love the most in ND, apart from its members
It cannot be denied though that discussions about David’s art and artistry may also delve into back stories for his choices. But if none is offered, perhaps it is better that we take it at face value, rather than worry about symbolism and meanings that may not be forthcoming?
His song recommendations for example is almost always devoid of any explanation. Why? My guess is — why not?
Being David, as he has demonstrated time and again, he may not want to put any preconceived notions into other people’s heads. Perhaps he just wants to share something that he enjoyed listening to. Perhaps it was his way of paying tribute to other artists who influenced him. Perhaps he wants to tell us something… a lot of perhaps… What am saying is, at times we can go overboard on the interpretation thing.
Isn’t extensive analysis usually mostly conjecture anyway, saying more about the writer than the artist?
I have a different take on this post, so I hope I won’t be thrown to the wolves for disagreeing. I am a mother of teenagers. Maybe because my life right now is consumed with teenagers and all of the ups, downs, and drama in their lives I view David in a different light. Yes, you are legally an adult when you turn 18, but do we really become an adult at 18? Chronologically, well yes. Emotionally, no. Having gone through the magic number 18 with two children already and another set to have that happen this year, I feel that I can add a different view to this. All of my children have still been in high school when they turned 18. They are still teenagers who think, act, and behave just like that…teenagers in high school. They aren’t equipped emotionally or with life experiences to become adults just because they have aged another year. As much as we all adore David, his unbelievable singing voice, and his adorable personality and demeanor…he is still 18 years old and technically a senior in high school. Yes, he is growing up before our eyes and has made amazing strides this year in his communication abilities, but in my eyes he is still very much a teenage boy who is just beginning to take baby steps to adulthood. In closing I would like to add, that you can take it firsthand from this mom of teens that my boys do not pay any attention whatsoever to the lyrics of the music they listen to. I have had this conversation with them many, many times that I find some of the words to the songs they listen to rather inappropriate. I am amazed that they are clueless to the words but are moved by the music and “how it makes them feel.” One of them told me that since his job was to mow the lawn, he “needed” something on his iPod to get him moving and to quote him “make this lame job I have been unfairly given” tolerable! Just gotta love teenagers! I just checked the play list in iTunes on my computer to see what my boys are listening to. Interesting and diverse. I discovered something rather amazing and humorous about the 17 year old. His latest downloads from iTunes using his gift cards are: a football game (what???), Love Story by Taylor Swift (hmmm), Switchfoot, TI, Black Eyed Peas, TPain (double yuk), Soulja Boy (triple yuk), Fallout Boy, All American Rejects, Sara Barielles (interesting), Natasha Bedingfield (good boy!), Jump by Van Halen, Thriller by Michael Jackson, I’m Yours and Butterfly by Jason Mraz, AND Crosby, Stills, Nash…Teach Your Children. Wow that last one must be for his mama, because I just love that song and have played it over and over and over. Sorry for being too long here, but my point is that this very partial list makes absolutely no sense…very diverse and rather interesting and unique to who he is! Just like David.
Sorry to double post, but I have another work appointment to run to.,,,,
Months ago when reading David’s blogs, always complaining about rambling, I found myself suddenly humming from the Allman brothers from 30 some years ago. Changed the words a bit….
Lord, I was born a ramblin’ man
Tryin to do my mission and doin the best I can
And when it’s time for speakin’
I hope you’ll understand
That I was born a ramblin’ man.
Maybe I just divulged to much about myself.
David, never change.
Although I’ve posted before, I tend to not express my personal feelings – I am not educated in music as some are here (I so enjoy learning from all of you though) and I am not nearly as articulate as most of you, but for some reason this topic is making me want to join in – so here goes….
I grew up in the 60′s and believe me, I would never have wanted people thinking that because I loved certain songs that it meant I had actually experienced what those songs were about! Kurt1960 said “overanalyzing David’s musical preferences is an unhealthy endeavor” – I couldn’t agree more and I think overanalyzing anything is unhealthy – and will prevent you from living and truly enjoying life to the fullest. Discussion is one thing – overanalyzing is another.
I just enjoy David, The Voice, and David, the person who inspires us to strive to be better people and David, the one who is teaching us to enjoy new artists.
Thanks for giving me a safe place to express my feelings – I love ND as much as I love David!
Wow, love every single post here today!! <3
Lucky Angel – #47 – I’m not sure what about your comment is in disagreement with the article, other than that I mentioned that David was now (technically) an adult, and you are expounding on what the definition of that may really mean… I did not say, nor did I mean to imply, that this has anything to do with maturity… My point was that many of his fans, I think, do tend to view him in a rather limited light — e.g., “sweet Mormon boy” — and fail to recognize or appreciate the inevitable complexities and dimensions of young adulthood. He is, at least, no longer a child.
The one part of your comment I will, however, disagree with is the assumption that David ignores lyrics. That may be commonly true for a majority of teenage music consumers, but I will stake my Rascalian reputation on the belief that David is quite well aware of lyrics and lyric content.
re: ….discussing the implications of David’s choices of favorite music and musical artists, as evidenced by things like his “song of the day” suggestions.
Perhaps David’s suggestion is simply a means to establish a rapport with fellow artists by sharing with his listeners his affinity for their contributions to a shared passion for music. This may proove to be an effective means to establish credibility in his chosen profession and among his peers, and perhaps a gentle persuasion to his adoring fans that he is one among many (not the end-all, be-all), as well. In essence, don’t let your ODD for him get so out of control that it becomes a detrament in your daily life, perhaps instead it can become a gateway to your musical enrichment…among other things.
re: Comments could very easily lead to speculation about David’s personal life and private thoughts, and…those are not supported categories of discussion
I echo Brooklyndawn’s #28 comment. This precaution seems to be consistently disregarded by a few of the regular posters. Just sayin’. Now back to the ether.
pensive..you said you echo Brooklyndawn’s #28 post..
Which part?? The Gavin’s Sexual Healing? That had me LMAO!! Cuz, not only did I LOVE Marvin’s but Gavin’s take as well..but the real fantasy is imagining David singing it….uh-huh!
OK…I’m in trouble now…I’ll repent later!!
Going home now…need some air..20 degree air!!
Later!!
I am compelled to de-lurk, always a risk for me, as I barely make sense to myself when I write, let alone make sense to others. However, I do read everything here and consider you my fan-family, so I am bravely sharing. I know this topic will become a great discussion, and I just had to add my 2 cents before inflation sets in. Ha!
I think rascal summed it up best in his article when he wrote “David simply is who he is;” and one thing we know for sure is that the Archulator (in whom we trust) is also the Appreciator. He is inclusive in his approach to people and music and life in general. He doesn’t judge; he listens, he observes and he absorbs (like a sponge).
I have four adult children. Two of them are professional musicians. One is in the U.S. one in Europe; one goes classical, one goes jazz; one performs, one is behind the scenes. Each is on a different track from the other, but I see some “David” in both of them as they continue to progress, meshing artistry with their own personalities, personal values, and life in general. What they eventually become will not be the result of a single event or decision, but a lengthy and necessary exploration process.
I am a practicing Mormon and conservative to the bone. On top of that I am an old lady who is often dismayed about much of society today. Still, I see nothing untoward or scary or disappointing about David’s admiration for other artists and their music/lyrics. That said, I have a theory about those who do: There are so many misconceptions about Mormonism that many of us remain silent rather than rectify fallacies by what we have learned will take repeated and rejected explanations. So, when someone like David comes along, a public shining star and the perfect example of all we believe, some Mormons throw him up on pedestal and expect him to “speak” for all of us in everything he does. Such expectations are not only judgmental but almost a guarantee for disappointment. David has shown that he can appreciate without embracing; but please, let him choose for himself.
Even we notingDavid fans get rather assertive in trying to manage David’s career (and sometimes his life) for him—music, clothing, management, image, appearances, performances, behavior, etc. Dang that microscope! It is great fun (including the brownies) and it is probably necessary analysis so we won’t implode from ODD; but really, don’t we all want David to simply be who he is? It’s why we love him, and it’s why we can trust him. As a gushy, besotted, over-the-top David fan, I have my own opinions about his career; but no matter what, I am a fan forever and find his journey nothing less than fascinating.
Sorry for the long post. When I spill, I spill.
Here’s an old interview that Snarky Archies has on their site. It’s one I don’t recall seeing so may some of you haven’t either. Fitting for this post I think.
http://archuleta.pixnet.net/blog/post/25321969
Applause for Gran!
The only thing I would like to add is sort of an aside that I have wanted to post for a long time. I have wanted to write something witty and eloquent but realized today that there is really only one little paragraph required and I think if might be this one: Mormons are pretty dang normal. Life happens to us just as it happens to everyone else, with all the shades of light and dark and grey. Our faith is not designed to keep life at bay but to give us the tools to deal with it as it happens.
Hmm, that’s not quite it, but it will have to do for now.
I appreciate the comments in reference to the religious traditions into which David was born, and I know that our dear friends GranFan and smanda are not meaning to defend their faith or put a doctrinal spin on any of this, but I do want to make it clear that the intention of the phrase “sweet Mormon boy” should be considered in its most general and emblematic way–the same, for example, as saying “sweet Catholic boy” or “good Jewish boy” or even “sweet studious boy”–rather than as a reference to a specific faith or religious tradition. I think the point is the perception some have of David that he is younger than he really is, narrower in thought and experience than he is really is, and subject to more limitations than he really is. We need to be well aware that a public persona can very quickly become a stereotype, and that reality will always be far richer and much more complex.
Came back and wanted to add something.
Today’s topic is such a reminder of how vulnerable one is when ‘putting something out there’ for the public. It took me months of lurking to post the first time. I was so afraid of being misinterpreted or just plain assigning the wrong word to a feeling I was trying to express without the aid of my physical expressions to cover for me.
This alone makes David a hero. So young and so brave.
And Rascal must be fearless, because we know he’s caught flack.
I’m actually scaring myself, so I want apologize if I ever offended any of you. Know that there were so many times I wanted to comment on each post but there’s no time.
Do I sound like I’m dying or something?!?!
I’m fine, I think I just scared myself out of posting for a while. lol
Waiting for Fanvention
(((Whatjusthappened))))
Don’t be scared! We love you!
Rascal – great post. One of the questions raised was why David listens to and recommends certain songs, but you made me pause to think about why I listen to what I do. Why does a song grab me? Why do I need to hear something over and over? Sometimes I hear only the music and there is a chord change or a turn of melody that just burrows into my soul. Sometimes it is the lyrics that speak to me. Sometimes it is the weird timbres of world music that give my ear a fresh sound to enjoy. Sometimes it is a crazy energy or a soulful yearning or a quality of voice that makes me want to listen again and again. Music that has done this to me over the years is as varied as Joan Baez, Adagio by Samuel Barber, Jimmy Cliff and my son’s bluegrass/rock&roll band.
And of course with David, it is simply the Voice. I hadn’t listened to pop music for years before David. My tastes were more world and folk and classical. But the Voice changed that. I truly don’t care what he sings, it is simply that his voice connects with my soul.
And Kurt1960 #27 – I enjoyed your post, but have to disagree about analyzing. If we fans didn’t over-analyze everything, what fun would that be haha!!!??
I find it interesting that we don’t assume that a writer of novels actually killed anyone to experience the inner turmoil (or other emotions depending on the character) they write about, but we feel that writer’s of songs must have had some event or experience to write about emotion. (This is, of course, the collective “we” of our culture, not the “we” of ND).
I used to love to read thrillers and the serial killer novels of Michael Connelly (The Poet!), but that doesn’t mean I’ve ever experienced anything like any of those characters. And perhaps that was even part of the attraction.
The word “story” applies to many genre’s of art – writing, painting, singing, theater. No one attributes the characteristics of a “character” to the writer, and they shouldn’t attribute the characteristics of a song to its writer, either.
Want to know where david will be on Inauguration Day….
This according to The New York Observer…
The Recording Industry of America will be at the 30,000-foot D.C. club Ibiza for their party, which is set to include guests like Courteney Cox and David Arquette, Jennifer Aniston, John Mayer, Lance Bass, Mariah Carey, Matthew Perry and American Idol star David Archuleta.
David will be coming to IRIAA Inaugural Charity Ball is charity event for Feeding America in Ibiza but will not be performing.
Too bad..but he will meet John Mayer, at last!!
As always, I love all the different points of view here today.
I’m waiting for Rascal to hang the Shrink Shingle on his front door.
If we didn’t have this place to spill our overflowing ODD I think we’d all be going off the deep end.
Thank you Dr. Rascal.
I noticed on other sites that there were comments that David must have been upset to find out that his song Crush was used during an almost-sex scene. I posed the question: is it possible that David OK’d or knew about the song’s use in this way beforehand? The response I got was a blank wall — refusal to consider that he’d *ever* allow his work to be used in a romantic intimate scene.
I’m not saying that he knew or OK’d it. I have no idea how these things work and if the show had to get permission from the label, him, or what. But I can’t stand it when people put limits on David and imagine him to think this and that, and especially when others try to save him from himself or any perceived purity because it does not agree with their belief system.
I will go out on a limb here: I actually hope, that on that front, that David will surprise those who think they have him figured out.
Thank you rascal for a perfect and spot on blog about David and his musicality.
I find David’s “song of the day” and his selections on his ipod fascinating. I must admit, although I was familiar with Jason Mraz, I had not yet heard “Butterfly” until I saw it was listed on David’s ipod. The minute I heard this song I loved it! Forget the lyrics…the rhythm and melody of this song is enough for anyone to get up and get down! And the horns! Oh yes…I totally get why David would like this song…IMHO kind of in the same style as
EWF, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Curtis Mayfield…even Robert Palmer.
There is a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson that I came across–
“The artist, like the bee, must put its life into the sting that it gives.”
And David is forever stinging us! He is an “old soul” with a young spirit that is just continuing to unfold. He is completely captivating. I was lucky enough to see David during the AI tour this summer at Nassau Coliseum (Long Island) and then again at MSG for the Jingle Ball…but how lucky some of you were to see David at the Hard Rock! How very special and intimate! How amazing would David be at a place like the Bottom Line in NYC in the Village? (Anyone know about that place?) It’s historic–if those walls could talk! The best of the best have played there. Or…even…one day Carnegie Hall! Not as intimate but acoustically perfect…”getting that tingly feeling…!”
Finally…totally off topic…but so fun and memorable for me…I was lucky enough to meet David at the barricade party on the Today show on Nov. 11, the day his album was released! He was chatty and gracious…and so very nicely signed my daughter’s lacrosse stick! THANK YOU, DAVID! We’ll keep it with the Clothed Off Our Back cereal bowl, which we won in the charity auction last month…awesome charity…the donations can feed so many in need.
#48 WhatJustHappened…loved your lyrics to Ramblin’ Man…just great!
David…you always leave us wanting more…Godspeed
… interrupting regularly scheduled programming for a random act of dancing ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_hI8ig5bE0
Rascal your words are beaufitul as usual and it’s just amazing how much you get David. David’s choice of music, is his choice and I think he has wonderful taste in music, all types too. He likes Boston’s More than a Feeling. I’m sure alot of people could read something into that too. For whatever reason David likes certain music, could be the music itself, or the lyrics, David will still be David. David is just at the beginning of his journey and still developing as a human being and an artist. David likes Led Zeppelin too. If David starts rapping to gangster rap then I think we should start worrying…ha, ha
Rascal, thanks for the added clarification and the reminder.
“Sweet Mormon boy” should be a generalization, but David’s Mormon background is frequently mentioned in the media as a way to explain his perceived quirkiness, immaturity and naiveté. I have never seen, read or heard descriptions like “the agnostic David Cook,” or “that Jewish Idol contestant.”
Like smanda said, Mormons are pretty normal, warts and all. Maybe I was trying to promote a little separation between David and that phrase. He always describes himself as “just David.”
I agree with you completely regarding the eventual complexities of real life for each of us, including David. My post was not intended to be a defense of my faith or doctrinal in any way. I’m sorry if it came across as such. I consider all of you as friends and would never purposely choose to offend anyone here.
silverfox…Thanks for changing the subject to something at a level that is OK with me and interesting to know…meaning the subject is not about him personally…Do you think we should respect his privacy and not have discussions about how he thinks all of the time?
To be like David is to not be like other sites that go beyond the music…National Enquirer style…How would David really feel about us wondering what he thinks of other musicians and why he likes their music? Would he consider us good friends?.
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Hi all. Just my thoughts on Rascal’s article, I think sometimes fans or the un-fans tend to over-psychologize (is that even a word) on David’s choices or actions, in this case his musical choices. David’s musical choices don’t really say much about who he is a person/artist, it just shows what kind of art he appreciates. I do believe that David’s musical choices are more of an appreciation/admiration of the artists’ style and that he can somehow relate to their kind of creativity. Oh well, this is just me thinking out loud.
#64, I would imagine the label had to OK it but I would guess David knows about it through his management and myabe had a say too.
68 GranFan “David’s Mormon background is frequently mentioned in the media…”
This concerns me too. It leads me to believe that when the media looks at David, they see “Mormon” first and not David, the individual.
Luv all the comments today. I sure hope David can incorporate dialogue re. influential artists and his tastes in music into his stage banter during the upcoming tour.
TOfan..I’ve watched that CRA-ZEH video of David dancing so many times..I’ve lost count! I just bust out laughing EVERY time! I just love him..love..him!
SB..i imagine David is excited at the prospect of meeting one of his Idols…BAD BOY, John Mayer! hahaha!
You know, he’s gonna have his own Musical Variety Show on TV…wouldn’t it be awesome if David is a guest on his John’s show?
Tofan #66 Oh, gosh he’s so frickin’ adorable it just slays me. And…was he even born when MC Hammer was doing his thing? Or am I so old that that dance is something else and only I think it looked like MC Hammer?
My issue with the description “Sweet Mormon Boy” is that it’s used as some kind of convenient stereotype, as Rascal already said. Like the ND Mormons have mentioned here, there really should be nothing out of the ordinary just because someone practices this faith.
Yet, media, some fans, and haters have all fallen back on this description to explain away all the quirkiness and perceived “squeaky clean” qualities that we see in David.
He hasn’t been kissed yet? Oh, that’s because he’s a “sweet Mormon boy.”
He hasn’t had a relationship yet? Oh, that’s because he’s a “sweet Mormon boy” (Never mind that David has mentioned how both his sister Claudia and brother Daniel have had boyfriends and girlfriends respectively – is that because they’re “Mormon” too?).
He drew shorts on a picture of a woman in a mini-skirt! Oh, that’s because he’s a “sweet Mormon boy.”
He doesn’t swear! Oh, that’s because he’s a “sweet Mormon boy.”
I’m not saying that his faith has not guided the kinds of personal decisions he’s made in his life, but there is a way that his Mormon religion is being hyped up as the explanation for David’s quirkiness, which seems out of step with the secular world that the pop music arena represents. It has always seemed to me like a lazy prop people lean on because they don’t want to dig a little deeper into understanding the man and the artist.
And, honestly, if David were a practicing Catholic, and still behaved in the way that he does, would people really attribute his qualities to being a “Sweet Catholic Boy”? Not that Catholicism isn’t pathologized by some, but it is a more recognizable religion, and many of us have met and encountered Catholics on a regular basis.
I’m just saying, if David were Catholic, we’d find some other explanation as to why his sweetness and innocence seem “out of step” with the rest of the big bad world. Maybe they’ll say something to the effect of how he’s a “Sweet Country Boy” or something (yes, urbanites would consider Utah “country”).
I love the fact that David is so sweet and seemingly innocent, but it’s not a prerequisite for me to admire and respect him. The voice and the good looks came first for me. His sweet personality came next. I’m charmed by his sweetness, and don’t care either way what faith he practices. So, those who embrace him (or dismiss him) for being a “sweet Mormon boy” seem to be dwelling on the most superficial aspects of his persona.
I get that there are some who love that David is the antithesis to a lot of the hypersexual, downright pornographic pop artists right now, and that kind of image validates their values. But, do we want a symbol, or a real flesh and blood human whose artistry can be magnified on a level where the masses can appreciate it?
Another issue, for me, is the way that the hypersexual image of pop teens has been so accepted as the Norm that many have forgotten that young men like David do exist and are very normal. There are 17 and 18 year old virginal guys who are not rushing into relationships and just loving what they love (music, computers, sports, anime, or whatever it is that’s got their attention). They’re not all gay, some don’t know either way, but they’re patient and not in a hurry to approach adulthood. So many of us love David precisely because in his ordinariness, he’s quite extraordinary. His Voice elevates him on a higher plane all around, but there was a time when our society knew that nothing is weird or quirky about a guy like David.
Like everyone else here who has never met him in real life or hung out with him, I can only speculate, but I suspect when others say how “David reminds me of myself when I was his age” (and I’ve heard lots of guys say this – heck I could say this too since I was very much as green and innocent as he was when I was 17/18), I hear a recognition that David is like many of us, and it’s a cool thing to see that regular way of being young validated. He doesn’t have to an overly sexed precocious teen to entertain us or be accepted. Now, why can’t we accept his sweetness as just part of David being David and not because he’s a “Sweet Mormon Boy”?
What exactly is so peculiar about David? I know what makes him special, but is he really peculiar?
Pearl Buck once wrote:
“The truly creative mind in any field is no more than this:
A human creature born abnormally, inhumanly sensitive.
To him…
a touch is a blow,
a sound is a noise,
a misfortune is a tragedy,
a joy is an ecstasy,
a friend is a lover,
a lover is a god,
and failure is death.
Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create – - – so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, his very breath is cut off from him. He must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency he is not really alive unless he is creating.”
David has said time and again that music is his passion and will find a way to do it even if AI or his early success had not happen. For me, his song suggestions is merely an extension of that passion. Another form of creating connections and relations, of pouring out what his soul and spirit knows best.
Who best to trust with good sounds but with a music connoisseur, a maven?
GRANFAN – Please post more often. I always enjoy your posts, even if they are far apart
To have a musical family is wonderful – such a blessing!
SF – I really, really, really – did I mention really? – wish for TheVOICE to do Sexual Healing in the future. I am patient. I promise to wait. That’s why I posted that Gavin performance. TheVOICE is simply made for such song.
BTW, it is only 7:30am here. Too early for such… oh my… Haha!
Yeah . . so . . as David reads all this stuff and scratches his cute head . . says “whooo are these people” . . throws his cute head back . . gives that adorkable guffaw . . then explains . . “Gosh, I’m just David” . . “haha”
Sexual Healing? Eh.
If David must do a Marvin Gaye song, I’d much rather hear his voice wrap around “Mercy, Mercy” or “What’s Going On.”
Chills, I’m already feeling them just imagining what that would sound like.
#75 HG – lovely. Yes.
(HG – I didn’t mean Yes – David is Peculiar, I meant Yes, I loved what you said.) (Haha)
I just wonder if he ever feels like he has been beaten with the blogging stick!
oh, and I respect David Archuleta more and more virtually every freaking day.
Erin! I have missed you! Glad to see you again.
Smanda, I understood what you meant.
Elaborating on the “Sexual Healing.” I’m sorry, but as much as I think David doesn’t need certain life experiences to feel a song or interpret it, Sexual Healing is an exception.
When I hear Marvin Gaye sing it, when I hear Gavin sing it, um yeah, you need to understand that song in order to sing it.
And until David knows what that feeling feels like, until David has driven through rain, sleet, freezing rain, snow, yes, even driven “a thousand miles” because he just knew what was waiting for him when he got home…until he’s been there, he absolutely cannot sing Sexual Healing and convince anyone of the lyrics.
Until he’s been there, that song should be off limits.
But let David loose on “Mercy Mercy” or “What’s Going On,” and we’ll all be very satisfied and having our own “healing” moments.
I just read at snarky archies that David will be on B97 radio’s float in the Mardi Gras parade with Jesse McCartney – more info on snarky archies and B97′s site.
#28 brooklyndawn – kudos
HG..any of Marvin’s songs would just do me in..and I think What’s Going On is just the kind of message song David could bring back bigger than ever..if only!!
As for Sexual Healing..
I knew I shouldn’t have put that vision in JR’s head.,but blame Brooklyndawn for putting it in mine!!
HG..you’re right..but I was just thinkin’ of THE VOICE..
# 84 Here’s the link to B97:
http://www.b97.com/pages/3666594.php
HG #75 – Beautiful post. Eloquent! You were on fire!
mommuzboys #55 – Thanks for the video link. This looks like an older interview, about the time of the Crush video, but it’s one I haven’t seen. He talks about musicians he admires and names the usual suspects – John Mayer, Sara Bareilles, Jason Mraz, and then says:
“They’re all about the music and being real with what they are saying and the way that they do the music. You can tell that it’s really coming from within them.”
Maybe this is another thread of what draws David to a particular song – the honesty, the connection to self.
Oh…and watching his JOY as he talks about music just slays me.
Again, LOVing this thread!
WJH #45, I just listened to Mraz’s Butterfly for the first time ever … Forget David, it made ME blush…. Smokin’ hot song!!
And this blog is about David’s song choices and how it reflects on the IMAGE (ugh) he’s supposedly wants to create…WHAT??
Instead it turned to David and Mormonism..of Which David never speaks..his religion,( which is not about his deep FAITH), like politics can be a volatile subject..and he’s wise to stay clear of those subject’s as best he can,
so why can’t WE??
jus’ askin’??
Great post Rascal. I will simply add a few very trite phrases: People are complicated. You cannot judge a book by its cover. The older I get the less I make assumptions about people. as they often suprirse me. I believe music and art, like reading and poetry expands your outlook. David surely has been influenced emotionally and intellectually, by his love of music. The rest of the story, will be reserved by those closest to him. I enjoy his song of the day. Very cool idea that I see as trying to promote great artists, expand our horizons and occasionally give us a message song
( Faith Hill- A Baby Changes Everything)
SF, I’m sure David’s VOICE would sound lovely on any Marvin Gaye song (and his message songs would so suit David). You’re right: What’s Going On? would make a great comeback hit with David’s cover.
Maybe during our private concert, we can make requests!
Have you seen this clip where that other track plays again after David finishes Crush – leading to another dance move:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNgF2pc4HnI
Speaking of song lyrics, today on MuchMoreMusicTop10 (ALTNOY was #9 video today), the VJ mentioned something that happened years ago. It seems when the Rolling Stones appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show and were going to sing Let’s Spend the Night Together, Ed had them change the lyrics to Let’s Spend This Time Together. Oh, the times have been a-changing.
Wow- what a day!! Too many fabulous poets to reference them…they were all so interesting and thought provoking. Regarding the question of the music that he is listening to and suggesting to others… two points on that…I think that when an observer observes art, whether it be a painting, a song, a poem, a play, a sculpture etc. and makes a connection with that art that there IS an underlying explanation for the connection. But I do not think that a third party can ever determine that reason. The observer must figure out the reason for the connection one makes with art. I can no more figure out why David likes a certain artistic creation than I can figure out why he prefers Thai food to Mexican- that’s for him to figure out. My challenge is to figure out my own connections, and sometimes I want to reflect on the why and sometimes I don’t.
I also think the whole question of the selection of the music that he performs/sings/writes is equally as blurred. Never mind all of the practical, non-art related elements that go in to making that selection (marketing .etc)…. Just looking at the art and the artist. Some artists don’t ever want to articulate what their intentions were when they were creating the art. Sometimes artists are so inspired that they CAN’T articulate an explanation for the inspiration. I think that the creative impulse is not an intellectual one and it cannot always be understood by the intellect. I suspect that’s why philosophers and artists have been pondering the nature of art, inspiration, and beauty for millennia. So we here throw in our two cents and this kind of thought provoking debate is the reason why thinking and reflecting is fun. Though I’m not quite ready for a full discussion of Kant’s Theory of Aesthetics and Teleology….
btw- did someone up top dis our brownies?…
HG – I guess David is only peculiar in the context of the Hollywood stereotype. And that means the celluloid image. He is real that’s why others find him peculiar.
You got it right – his ordinariness is what makes him extraordinary. He is “Just David”. He is like a silent rebel, challenging the status quo w/o meaning to — that could be quite unsettling.
In the same breath, that could be quite a gem at this time. Perhaps that’s why others are so fast in pigeon-holing him to be this non-smexy mascot for the good and the beautiful – as if there is only one side to him. As if they have got him figured out…
random question: Are there any flying monkeys along this yellow brick path???
HG83- does that mean you’d give me permission to sing it?….
Jackryan: High Five:
You got it right – his ordinariness is what makes him extraordinary. He is “Just David”. He is like a silent rebel, challenging the status quo w/o meaning to — that could be quite unsettling
UH-OH,…New Orleans..Mardi Gras! Could that be one of the concert venues?? With Jesse?? Makes sense to me?? If so..I think I’m there..I think..cuz masks are worn during Mardi Gras, right? David will never know it’s me ( not that he would anyway, but just in case)..
Could it be too soon to have a concert? But Jeff did say Feb & March.. and Feb 14 is in Feb, right??
David has said that he wants to introduce his fans to new and different artists. He knows that his fan base spans those who only know what they hear on their local pop station through to those who have never listened to pop music. And, since he is a student of music from around the world, he is trying to make a connection with this disparate group through the only means he knows. Let’s enjoy the education.
That’s as far as my analysis goes. Because, if we consider what David actually says when offering us his songs for the day, it’s not that deep:
Stranger In Moscow – Michael Jackson – he offered no commentary on this one, but since he was in NYC at the time, perhaps it reflected how he was feeling. Then again, MJ is simply one of his all-time favs, so perhaps that was his motivation. Or maybe it’s because of the clever lyrics.
Person for the day – Charice (as seen on Oprah). “She seriously has one of the best voices I’ve heard in a long time, and I had chills the entire time I was watching about her life. She was really inspiring and for those of you who haven’t heard her yet I think you’re in for a real treat! She sang My Heart Will Go On during her appearance on Oprah, and it’s amazing to see how much passion she has for what she does! I also loved how she talked about how important her mom was to her.” He simply relates to her.
Song for the day – If This Isn’t Love – Jennifer Hudson
“This is a really cool song. I like listening to it. Haha.” Shall we speculate about what ‘cool’ means to an 18-year old?
Song for the day: Snow – Amie Miriello
“This is one of my favorite songs of the year. I thought it’d be appropriate as I now wipe the windshield filled with snow haha.” He’s sharing his sense of humour, admiration for a beautiful voice and great lyric.
Song for the day: A Baby Changes Everything – Faith Hill. “This song is for the Holiday Seasons since it’s off of her new Christmas album. It’s a beautiful song and she has such a great voice.” Enough said.
Nothing beats some good old-fashioned over-analysis to get the heart rate up.
Well, SF, it turned to David and Mormonism because that seemed to be an issue that came up in the private message Rascal received and to which he responded.
And, considering that the song that was scrutinized (and that made the person “scared” for David) was a Michael Jackson song, part of me can’t help but feel there was a certain disapproval that David was listening to Michael Jackson, who is of questionable character and who has been denigrated in our pop culture as a “freak” at best, a “pervert” at worst.
Is there a certain uneasiness being expressed because David doesn’t seem to be more “discriminatory” in his musical tastes? I was detecting some of that judgment, and those who require David to adhere to a certain image are going to keep having issues because David refuses to be judgmental. You’re right. He doesn’t talk about his religion, yet certain people do it for him.
Sadly, Michael Jackson dealt with similar pressures. I don’t know how many of you are aware that he was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, and as Michael Jackson became a mega superstar, his church did have expectations that he would use his pop star status to “preach the good news.” Not only did Michael not bring attention to his religion, he came under scrutiny and attack, most notably when he made his Thriller music video, and his church elders accused him of dabbling in the Occult. Not long after, Michael Jackson left his church.
I’m not saying David will do the same, but his church (and church followers) really need to not get invested in the belief that he must be representative of the entire faith community. There’s enough pressure public figures face; a religious pressure is so not necessary.
Uh-oh..this is from the b97 site..there is a concert on the 15th…uh-oh!!
B97 presents David Archuleta and Jesse McCartney LIVE during Mardi Gras!
Look for David riding with the B-Krewe in the Krewe of Ceasar Parade on Sat 2/14! (see route below) Can you imagine? Getting tossed a pair of beads from David Archuleta?!?! OMG!
Then you can see BOTH David Archuleta and Jesse McCartney performing LIVE for FREE in a special B97 performance on Sunday 2/15!
We’ll have all the details on where you can catch that free performance from David and Jesse soon! So keep listening to B97 and checking back right here at b97.com!
HG83- does that mean you’d give me permission to sing it?….
Only if you can carry a tune!
But can she tuna fish?
hee
HG..yes..I wondered the same and said so in my post above, see below
I hate to think that the “member” who wrote rascal was more concerned that David admires Michael Jackson who has become less than a role model..but that makes me admire David even more..he does not judge..Obviously, Michael’s private life is of no concern to David..he simply admires the artistry in Michael and isn’t afraid to say so.
I buh-lieve the “messenger” may be MORE concerned about David even mentioning Michael Jackson’s name rather than his song. Michael’s life is not a reflection of his genius..but maybe he’s a musical genius BECAUSE of his life. David’s admiration of Michael goes way back to the Jackson Five..so what’s so surprising about David still liking Michael..especially since Michael WAS the heart of the J5..David was an unconditional fan of Michael’s, like we are of David…Good Karma. Such good karma emanates from David!
SF, that’s why we love David!
I wish others recognize these traits as a virtue – being non-judgmental, generous, unconditional in his love and appreciation.
Unfortunately, “virtue” for some simply means being a “Sweet Mormon Boy.”
Juliebug, #104, you’re chock full o’ nuts!
sunshine, #100, your memory is incredible…
SF #26, “I will wait as patiently as I can..and it’s hard..for David to reveal more of himself when he releases more of his very own compositions.” me too.
HG..I know!! what a waste of time..instead of appreciating and seeing David for the uber talented and great human (are we sure he didn’t suddenly appear from another galaxy, where only beings of exceptional character & talent live?) being..”they” feel the need to question his choices..so little faith in David, “they” have!
Thank Heavens we aren’t “they”!!
juliebug- I see your new avi is a group photo of us!! yay! (although I always think I look a little chubby in pictures…)
HG- ahem….I can not sing in tune…but I’d sing that song with a lot of emotion and I promise you , you would ROFL and most certainly need the paddles if you were ever to witness the site… juliebug and SF have agreed to sing backup (they have assured me they are qualified)
Thank Heavens we aren’t “they”!!
AMEN!!!
Oh Happy, I can only imagine…you must perform a rendition at the Fanvention we are so bent on having.
So happy..which NUT are you? Oh And I can carry a tune..and I CAN dance..you name it..I can dance it! It’s the Latina in me! Even now..I can shake my bootie like Beyonce in I’m a Single Lady..Course it’s just my opinion..
Other than that..I make a mean tuna salad!
I love his gift for taking things at face value…no hidden agendas, doesn’t question motivation or intent. Might explain why he doesn’t really get sarcasm. So much to admire.
SF – Happy is a Hazelnut.
I’ll sing (badly)…but I vote for this song…
Que Sera, Sera,
Whatever will be, will be
The future’s not ours, to see
Que Sera, Sera
What will be, will be.
haha!
emmegirl..you’re right! I never thought about it..but David really doesn’t GET sarcasm, does he?
I am so in awe if him..I love him!! I learn something new & wonderful about him every day..and in turn, about myself.
SF112- we could have a lot of off topic fun with that question…but getting back to the group photo, I’d think I’d like to be the little nut on the right, which one are you?
juliebug114- that would make us Doris Day!! SF as Doris Day??? the comedy, yes, but the wholesome image… not so sure….
Ok..I’ll be the Cashew..and sing the next 2 verses..
When I was just a little girl
I asked my mother, what will I be
Will I be pretty,will I be rich
here’s what she said to me
Que sera, sera
whatever will be, will be
The future’s not ours to see
que sera, sera..
I’m so dang good..I amaze myself! you shoulda heard me! haha!
I’ll be the walnut – the wrinkles are in the right places.
SF/112~, HG/111 & happy/109~ the entertainment at the Fanvention just got very interesting…LOL
SF- LOL..I see you dancing around in high heels and flailing a silk scarf…..
juliebug119- I thought you were the pecan?? LOL.
Wait a dang minute! I can so be Doris Day! I used to have freckles and everything when I was a little girl
( hated ‘em too..tried my best to scrub ‘em off )!
And I can be wholesome too…well maybe not..but I can act wholesome..
Oh…right. The pee-can. I’m multi-ethnic.
Geesh!..I forgot about the possible Concert of the Year (you know the one)..Rascal may call the whole thing off, cuz of us…
But on the other hand..we can OPEN for David..YEAH! and GRATIS..no charge! and no autographs or pics, please!
dj120– YOU’RE BACK….. and just in time!…pick a nut… not the hazelnut nor the cashew…nor the walnut nor the pecan…. on second thought…let me rephrase that… would you like to be the almond? almonds are a superfood….
we are preparing quite a show…..me as marvin gaye (since some sexual healing would be good for me, LOL!)
There’s always the comedy act to warm up the audience. They will all need the pee-can when we get done.
ah happy…I’m sorry..About how sexual healing would be good for you…ME TOO! ( I may be old..but I ain’t dayd! ) Not yet..but David IS killing me slowly & softly!
Now I must go repent, as I do most nights after hanging with you..happy & djb..bad, bad girl you are! And now juliebug, et tu tambien??
Hi everyone. I do not post very much but I wanted to add to all the great comments today. I love that David wants to introduce us to other music with his blogs and marvel at all the good things that he says about other artists.
I met David briefly in Houston. He is certainly not a big physical person but he sure is big where it really counts. His heart and his Soul. Speaking of song selection it has been mentioned about Marvin Gaye and “What’s Going On”. That is one of my all time favorite songs. I could see David singing that song.
The mention of that song reminds me of during AI and the some of the songs that David chose to sing.
Imagine
Another Day in Paradise
Your the Voice
Smoky Mountain Memories
It gave me a glimpse into David’s soul and how he cares about people.
Ah yes the sweet Almond~that would be me~ happy how did ya know?? ..at least you did not say Coconut..
dj- oh no!! spencer just stepped into the middle of a tennis game and lobs that one?!!!! spencer you sweetheart…… that’s all I’m gonna say….
Totally off subject but…I sure wish David could sing
Your the Voice again, especially in these times. We are coming in to a new time, a new President and new beginnings. I listened to Your the Voice again and again today, and I understood why David loved the song so much. Don’t we all need a little hope, change and love?
happy~I am not quite sure if you and Marvin would be the warm up or the encore..after David does his thang….and SF you would be an all night attraction for sure!!…in a good way of course.. scarf flailing and all….
Erin – I loved that song too! I would love to see him perform it . . the whole song.
BTW – my son is a good mormon boy and he LOVES Michael Jackson . . go figure . .
What is so fascinating about David is that he accepts that the world of pop music has songs that are not compatible with his own moral views and just doesn’t care if a song he likes doesn’t comply to his high moral standards at face value: when he likes something about a performance or a song, he just takes it as it is, he accepts the fact that art always has something impure in it and admires the good things in it. He doesn’t reject Kanye West, nor Michael Jackson, nor Butterfly, only because of song lyrics or private lives.
At least, that’s how I interpret it. Otherwise, how could he have sung the line “and no religion too” in Imagine?
I think David really sets an example here in not seeing music as something absolute, but as something that can habe both positive and negative aspects, and in using the positive aspects in each song to share the love and inspiration with others.
This is also why we shouldn’t view David’s “songs of the day” as a tool to analyze him (and Rascal is of course right in saying that we shouldn’t analyze David in the private and personal aspects of his life he hasn’t chosen to share (yet), although of course it is tempting).
happy/130~ whoa!!..off to clear mind ..must clear mind..turning into loconut..umm meant coconut..please someone feed me a sweet almond….a handful quick…
dj132- we need a marketing genius to decide those issues…warm up- they’d throw tomatoes for sure just to get us off the stage and get the show started (I felt like throwing tomatoes at Spectacular boy the other night)…. encore- we’d be performing to a bunch of thudded out people on the floor…… decisions, decisions….
Hi Erin~have missed you…I was just listening to Your the Voice along with some of the older AI songs.He has grown so much since then. Would love to hear him sing a few of those “oldies” again, but the full songs this time.
Thudded out people can’t boo.
Spencer..Thank you..there is life out there!! You are right..David is indeed Bigger than Life..Actually, he’s even bigger than me! haha! How much bigger was a BIG surprise even to me! Anyway.David is all about making people happy with his Voice and spreading good music all around with his song suggestions..
Hi Erin!! You’re The Voice..David was so hyped about that song on AI and if I recall, Simon didn’t like it! Did not make sense to me, cuz it’s a great song!
I must be saying good night now..had fun, but maybe we shouldn’t have cuz of the serious subject..
sorry rascal! I can be serious..but David is happiness to me! Sometimes..it’s just too serious..know I Imean? So carry on..and for David…
Dear Lord, Though we are unworthy to ask,
Please take Care Of David. Watch over him, Protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no to those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his ARCHANGELS do. Separate David from those who have agendas other than for his wellbeing. Give him rest when he’s weary. Give him stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms. Keep David healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
Though we may be unworthy, we humbly pray.
Amen.
Sweet dreams! Be safe & secure in our love always! Take care. You will always be numero uno in our eyes! Thank you for all you do and for just being you!
CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR!
juliebug138- good point. you are the marketing genius.
HG- want to be the walnut?
You know that all of this is what we do when we excitedly are waiting around…it would take a few tables in a bar of some type…when we are waiting for David to perform…Isn’t this conversation really to fill the gap of time until a concert???
HG, I really liked what you said, “What exactly is so peculiar about David? I know what makes him special, but is he really peculiar?
Being Mormon myself, I have always disliked the label of us being a peculiar people. We are just like everyone else. I’m just me and David is… just David. I love when he says that. I much prefer your discription of him being special, and that specialness will be seen differently for everyone.
There has been much food for thought in all comments today. I just love this site and all of you.
Sandy – Don’t talk about tables in a bar. SF might end up dancing on them.
and juliebug might end up under one of them??
good night all. thanks for the fun.
happy~ you have a pee-can as your marketing genius~haha
sorry juliebug but that just cracks me up…..ROFL
Happy – that incident was highly exaggerated.
Hey guys!
Speaking of marketing genius….the people at 19 sure know how to use the AI platform to hit people over the head with promotion. David Cook has now been featured so much on the first two episodes of that show, all his music has shot up the charts overnight. What a surprise.
What’s interesting to me is the way David’s popularity and buzz in the media continues to grow, yet his promotion has been nowhere near as big. David’s music also got a nice bump up on iTunes in the last two days. But he was barely a blip on that show! I think many people see idol (or even Cook) and are curious about what David A. is up to. Also, FOD has posted a scan of the current issue of ELLE Magazine’s Letters to the Editor page. They mention the huge response their Idol photo shoot got. According to the editor, David’s photos caused by far the most reaction among ELLE readers, who were astonished by his “stunning” images. And what about the Tree Lighting performances and how popular they became online? To me these examples show how David continues to appeal to people, just by being himself, without any need to resort to over-the-top promotion.
One last marketing note. In the background I have the TV on, and for the third time tonight a commercial aired for the new Renee Z movie…they are using “Crush” as the music in the commercial
juliebug~its Ok ~~what nut has not wound up under a table at a bar…??
LittleM #148 I was just about to post regarding that new movie, New InTown, with Renee Z (I can’t spell that!). I was thinking my cell phone was ringing because I was hearing Crush real softly, then realized it was upstairs and the music was on the commercial!
djb – LOL!
LittleM – I’m hoping that when AI hits the SLC auditions there will be little DA pimpage. I don’t watch AI (never have). But I think I’ll DVR it just in case.
Twice I’ve tried to post a link to this article, but it doesn’t show up. Must be WordPress thinks it’s something naughty. The link is to an article about Lady GaGa on celebuzz.com
The article begins: Squeaky clean Idol munchkin David Archuleta knows all about…..
You’ll have to there to read the rest
Marlie – you’re such a tease
SF #27 “I will wait as patiently as I can..and it’s hard..for David to reveal more of himself when he releases more of his very own compositions. He has so much he wants to say musically..I really believe that.”
I love your words–granted, we would all like to “know” David inside and out, what he thinks, and how he feels about anything and everything, but that just wouldn’t be right. Our job is to not judge or try to figure him out. That’s why we like–no love–him so much. He NEVER judges other people,or tries to figure them out (at least not publicly). They are who they are. The music is what it is–an art form that he relates to and appreciates. Perhaps, and most likely, on some of the songs, it isn’t the lyrics at all, but the music that he’s tied to. I know it works for me that way alot. I can think of a number of 60′s songs that I probably never really heard what the lyrics said, but the music said volumes to me.
As Forrest Gump would say, “that’s all I’ve got to say ’bout that”.
fsteven #13–great thought!
actually SF it was #26–sorry
Marlie – I tried posting a link too but it didn’t work…maybe Rascal is out and needs to approve them?
juliebug – I hope so too. I actually had a theory that DA was going to LA to film a couple scenes for AI.. but I don’t wanna get my hopes up too high…
Well I’m off to bed…Good night everyone
OMGosh HG#75–Spot on!! You said it all!
Well, let’s see if this will let me post – it’s the trailer to the movie New In Town, and features Crush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vjg3bO9G8
You mean this artilce MARLIE7?
Lady Gaga – Lady GaGa Forgot to Wear Pants…Again
Squeaky clean Idol munchkin David Archuleta knows all about Lady GaGa’s naughty penchant for ditching her pants. And now so does all of London!
New York City-based diva Lady GaGa (real name: Joanne Stefani Germanotta), 22, found herself having a #1 hit on both sides of the Atlantic last week.
For the rest of the story -
http://www.celebuzz.com/lady-gaga-forgot-wear-pantsagain-s78091/
Rascal: Great post, as usual You make us think and thinking is good! I’m late to the party again but had to pt my five cents in.
Lurker1 #38 You’ve expressed what I’ve been thinking about all day. David’s teen fanbase is catered to by David’s label in terms of song choice for the album, choice of venue for his shows, magazines he appears in, while we, David’s older fans aren’t really recognized for the value we have to his career.
We all know how it is to be fourteen and in love with the current singer. But life happens, teens grow up, tastes change and they are on to the next heartthrob. It’s a given that David has more talent than most current singers today, but most teens can’t appreciate that he is not just another artist and that he has a talent that doesn’t come along too often. I do believe that they love him but they can’t feel the same as we do because they don’t have the life experiences to know the difference. I have a 17 year old daughter who is fiercely independent, even in her taste in music. Her unspoken rule is that if Mom likes it then it’s probably just mediocre. When I ask her about David; her comment is ‘He’s okay’. He’s okay??? He’s not just okay! While she knows that David has a great voice, it’s not only the voice that attracts her to a singer or a song. Being a teenager, she looks for other things like trendy lyrics, catchy beat and a harder sound in her music choices, regardless of talent.
I saw a thread on another board yesterday that caughtt me offguard when it asked how we know that our loyalty to David will remain intact now that AI8 is underway. The thought of abandoning David because AI8 is here is the furthest thing from my mind! Many said that they won’t desert David and that they’re in it for the long haul, but others didn’t sound quite as convincing to me. It’s not their fault; how can they possibly guarantee loyalty when they haven’t had enough experience to know the difference between enjoying an artist’s music and experiencing profound changes in your life as a result of the music?
The best analogy I can use is knowing when you meet your soulmate vs. floundering around as a young adult, trying to find them, wondering how you now if it’s the right person. When you know you’re in love, you just…know.
As for the topic at hand, I think that as fans we should respect David and not delve so far into his character as to make implications based on his song choices. David doesn’t judge people and deserves credit for recognizing Michael Jackson’s talent as an artist. My own song choices vary widely and I would hate to think anyone would make assumptions about my personality solely based on my taste in music.
On a lighter note, I looked up Secondhand Serenade’s “Your Call” and am already having heart palpitations, imagining David singing the haunting chorus:
“Cause I was born to tell you I love you
and I am torn to do what I have to,
to make you mine; Stay with me tonight “
Oh sweet! Now CRUSH is a MOVIE soundtrack – woo-hoo!!!!
I saw this posted at FOD and I think it should be highlighted:
XM 20 on 20
Last night, an XM 20 on 20 DJ informed a listener of THIS:
“Yes, Arch Angels, we are playing David’s new single. We would love to get him on a countdown, but so far he hasn’t gotten enough votes. So call in and vote for it.”
So, that’s a tad disconcerting. If you haven’t been yet, please go to the 20 on 20 request page by clicking on the icon below. You can vote every 5 minutes. You can also call in to 866-553-2020. I do every morning in the car. I just like saying, “HEY!! This is Becky! PLEASE play ‘A Little Too Not Over You,’ by Daaaaaaaaaaavid Archuleeeeeeeeeeeta.”
Remember, this isn’t just about winning a countdown…this is about SPINS. Spins on 20 on 20 count towards his Mediabase airplay chart.
I guess we all know what to do
Good morning all!
Sorry I missed out on all you nuts last night, but I had a long distance phone call that cut short my evening here on ND.
Anyway, since the Pistachio Nut has yet to be claimed, I’d love to take this on.
Onto other subjects…
Crush is featured in a movie trailer (and starring Renee Z no less)? Go David! Go Jive!
Erin, thanks for the reminder of his under-appreciated You’re the Voice. Only the foolish and shallow judges, like Simon, would dismiss David’s song choice because most American’s didn’t know the song (same week Cook broke front and center with his “Billie Jean” rendition – YAWN!!). No constructive criticism whatsoever. But, his choice definitely gave me a glimpse into his bright shining soul. This was definitely a 17-year-old with musical substance!
His song of the day choices continue to reinforce this impression.
Good Morning:
This is off topic: A group of NDers are getting together in Manhattan at a 34th Street restaurant on Monday, January 19th at 7pm for Sangria, South American Cuisine and Camaraderie of the Archuleta variety. If you wish to join us please email me at kizzix2008@gmail.com.
Kizzi, that sounds like fun! Unfortunately, I already have plans that evening that I can’t get out of.
Off topic again. Is it just me, or is anyone looking on at this “Miracle on the Hudson” plane crash as a tremendously good omen? Not just because it came just before W’s farewell speech but also because it came the weekend before Obama’s Inauguration?
All of a sudden, the free falling economy has made me less fearful. I’ll always have Pilot Sullenberger’s words to reassure me: “Brace for Impact.”
Good Morning!
I did not intend to post on this discussion thread. I don’t really get into the business of over analyzing David. To do so would force me to over analyze why I love him so much and I’m not willing to go there. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I read Rascal’s beautiful post yesterday and agreed with every word. After reading all of the posts on the subject, one thought came to mind that I wanted to share and it was a message to us from David. In his liner notes David thanked US. The thank you was NOT “Thanks for supporting me…now go out and buy my album for everyone you know. David thanked us for accepting him THE WAY HE IS. This thank you took my breath away and brought me to tears. Our acceptance of him has made him feel safe with us. I do believe that this is one of the reasons why he shares what he does with us and why he has been so gracious in including us in his journey….“they’re as much a part of it as I am”
I made a promise to David to always accept him just the way he is. It is the least I can do for all the joy and positive changes he has brought to my life. Where he leads I will follow.
#165HG–Off topic too. Yes, the Miracle on the Hudson is uplifting–I am reading news articles and it is so poignant and heart warming. I take a plane one or two times a day during the work week pretty regularly so this hits home personally.
I am sitting in Reagan National today. Got into DC yesterday and the excitement and anticipation is tangible. At my hotel the desk clerk said there wasn’t a room available for 120 miles. There are signs on some major thoroughfare that say they will be closed starting Jan 19. The memorabilia for the inauguration is vast and everywhere–there is even an Obama action figure and a ton of Michell Obama shirts, magazines, pins. My 21yo is a huge Obama fan and gave me a list of tee’s and pins he wanted me to pick up while I was here. Radio announcers are saying this is the biggest inauguration in their memory. Funny story–I was in a restroom at the airport a while ago and the janitor told me that there was only going to be one portable bathroom for every 16,000 visitors – haha – she said the record previously was one for every 4000 visitors.
Bebereader #160 “experiencing profound changes in your life as a result of the music” – that says it for so many of us!
RoseAnn #166 – loved your post!
fron snarky archies:
American Idol runner-up David Archuleta echoed that sentiment. “I would give the girls music lessons,” he tells PEOPLE. “Probably not piano lessons, because I’m far from the greatest pianist, but voice lessons.”
He’s talking about Obama’s little girls!
JR #159 Yes, that’s the one – I couldn’t get it to post here.
love this thread…Rascal you are sooo good to us.
“First and foremost, I do not agree that David is trying to create or maintain a particular public image. That strikes me as far too contrived for him. David simply is who he is, and as many have already remarked, not all of his fans are likely to agree with all of his choices as his career unfolds, and I dare say quite a few of them are likely to be very surprised by a few things–especially things like lyrics.”
I am so looking forward to the surprises he has in store for us… and I hope to never put David in any box.
I “Trust the Archulator!”
It is a good time to be alive:
The miraculous Hudson River rescue – that could have been any one of us.
A solo tour with David to look forward to. Yes David, we accept you unconditionally and forever.
A season of profound change in our country, a year of repair.
betsy – Is this Adam? Curly hair? Ohmigosh, total cuteness!
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Kizzi #164: That sounds so fun, wish I could be there!
marlie7: Thanks for that New in Town trailer. What fantastic promotion for Crush… I can’t help but wonder if that means it might be featured in the film itself, or on the soundtrack CD?????
And someone mentioned the Inauguration, and an amazing Toronto group, the Nathaniel Dett Chorale, has been invited to perform at two Inaug. events. Check ‘em out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW5wrLi2CuA
Kizzi… sounds like fun and I’m going to see if I can hop a train into NYC. This has been such a great thread and I am so thrilled to hear the vast acceptance of David just as he is. Works for me, indeed.
I too am so amazed at the miracle at Hudson Bay yesterday.
Not to sound negative, but does anyone know how all the inauguration stuff gets paid for? Do the taxpayers pay for it? I’m just thinking about the Utah Governor who cancelled the fancy stuff for his inaugration and just did a simple swearing in and singing on the capitol steps. Of course – our David sang which was the best part! Anyway, he did it that way to save money because of the economy. I was hoping the national government might consider a similar choice. just wondering . . .
mamasaun #176 I keep getting emails for donations for the Inauguration from the Obama camp and the Democratic Party. I think it probably has some Fed funding, but I don’t think all of it is paid for that way.
thanks Marlie -I hope it’s a lot of donations. I know the University of Utah marching band is playing and they raised all the money themselves to go do that so hopefully that’s the norm. I was so impressed with Gov. Huntsman when he scaled down all the fancy stuff. . . and still did the most important thing . . (David singing, of course)
Good morning all..
Miracle on the Hudson..very good argument for Angels on Earth..cuz there must have been angels surrounding that plane, or at least one on the Pilot’s shoulder!
mamasaun..I think most of the funds for the inauguration come from donations. Whether you voted for Obama or not..this is history in the making. All the
pre-parties, galas, and balls are all sponsored for charities.
David is supposed to be there too..but I wonder if he’s going? There hasn’t been any confirmation that I’ve seen from David’s camp..so I’m just wondering??
Ok….totally off-topic but….the other day I caught the tail end of the movie “Ordinary People” (awesome movie BTW) anyway, after watching it I started thinking about Robert Redford because he directed the movie, which led me to thinking about the whole “Sundance” film festival thing that he does, and how in stature, he’s really a surprisingly “little” guy, kinda like our David, but still a powerhouse entertainer, and wouldn’t it be cool if they met, etc., etc.
ANYWHOOOO……Now I’ve come to find out that David has been invited as a special guest to the Sundance Film Festival (!) so now I feel like I have special psychic powers and just wanted to know if any of you had any special requests…
I’m here for you
Per the suggestion to Lurkers by “???” (Sorry I forgot who you are
), here is my Amen to Rose Ann # 166
Back to lurkdom.
SF: Maybe since David isn’t performing, there’s no need to really “announce” what he’s doing. Similar to the wedding he attended and that kind of thing.
Joner: Yes, I think you should envision the private ND concert with all your powers!
Never mind about me wondering if David will be at the inauguration…FOD says David will be attending and if FOD says it, then it must be true…
marlie7…a wedding and one of the most important inaugurations in the history of these United States are very, very different! You can’t even begin to compare the two events..Unless it was HIS own wedding…NOW that would/will be BIG!!! hahaha!
SF: True, true….I know his attendance has been announced in celeb blogs and such, just didn’t know if his marketing team would announce it since it’s not an appearance to perform.
#180 Joner – I have often connected Robert Redford in my mind to David; the dignity, the sense of purpose, the uniqueness. What I especially envision was for David to achieve the separation of celebrity with private life as Redford has achieved with the respect the media has for that.
You are a psychic- what do you charge?
marlie..I’m sorry if I came across like a smart A$$. I really didn’t mean to.
Joner…I posted this wayyyy back on 1/11..ahem!
“When he’s finished doing the promos he’s scheduled for there, he may go back home. They have the Sundance Film Festival in Park City Utah coming up which he may want to go to.”
I was talking about his NY appearances..and I here I know I am being a smart A$$!!! hahaha!
BUT, I didn’t know he was actually gonna be invited!! That’s big, cuz David seems to want to go into acting…I’m not trying act as if I “know” this…it’s what he himself has said…(don’t wanna seem like I think I KNOW David )…
Here’s a great close up vid of ATM at HRC. You can really see David’s concern for the fan in front (fess up, was that you Happy or ninaf? lol) and also how he gets swept away by the song near the end. Glorious.
(oh, and follow the bouncing eyebrows
)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6-d6syDZWQ&eurl=
Thanks for the video link TOfan – best one yet and soooo close! Love the bantering with the crowd too!
*Sigh*….he’s such a doll!
Completely off topic…I just got this email from a good friend of mine who has inside info about business mergers..may interest some of you…
(Joner…please forgive my big mouth ok?)
Here’s this very important info…
With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros and Acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America this might be some good advice. For all of you with any money left, be aware of the next expected mergers so that you can get in on the ground floor and make some BIG bucks.
Watch for these consolidations in later this year:
1.) Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W R.. Grace Co. Will merge and become:
Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.
2.) Polygram Records, Warner Bro’s. and Zesta Crackers join forces and become:
Poly, Warner Cracker.
3.) 3M will merge with Goodyear and become:
MMMGood.
4. Zippo Manufacturing, Audi Motors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will merge and become:
ZipAudiDoDa ..
5. FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become:
FedUP.
6. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become:
Fairwell Honeychild.
7. Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become:
PouponPants.
8. Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will become:
Knott NOW!
And finally….
9. Victoria ‘s Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new name:
TittyTittyBangBang
OH, YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO FORWARD THIS ONE!
I don’t know about you all..but I’m gonna buy stock in
Victoria’s Secret & Smith & Wesson! Cuz it’s gonna skyrocket!
Ok, now, I’m gonna just slowly lurk away…bye-bye..
Later…maybe???
silverfox…first I thought that you were serious!!! But why would I think that??? They are all great I can’t chose my favorite…because right now I just read about performers at …of course…the inaguration of all time….the big history making event…and I read about the Jonas Bros, Miley the wondergirl…Demi Lovato and BOW WOW??? who the heck is Bow Wow?……Don’t get me started…If the fantastic David Archuleta does not sing and they do then…Oh I had to delete my finish to that one…they could have borrowed Celine Dion, Bryan Adams, Joni Mitchell, Alanis Morisette, David Foster and others…all of them from Canada before David because they are wonderful accomplished musicians but what is wrong with the culture when they chose “those” without him? It definately is not someone like David Foster who made up that roster…. David should be singing… Imagine….how fitting would that have been…no wonder North America is in such a state of organized chaos…
SF – thanks for that info. I love that we are making history and hopefully finally looking at people for who they are . . and I also love charities . . so I hope you are right.
Joner #180 – If you truly have psychic powers, you should already know my request. (haha)
*thud*
Rose Anne #166 loved your post. I am another lurker finally coming out of the closet…very claustrophobic after all these months! Wonder if any of you have seen that New Kids On The Block are planning a 3 day cruise to the Carribean with their fans. Lots of entertaining by the NKs and lots of time for meet and greet. Will take place in May. ‘Twould be fun if it were David doing the entertaining etc.
HG #165
Off topic again. Is it just me, or is anyone looking on at this “Miracle on the Hudson” plane crash as a tremendously good omen?
No.
Not just because it came just before W’s farewell speech but also because it came the weekend before Obama’s Inauguration?
Neither.
A plane…falling from the sky…in NYC…near ground zero…instead of death, destruction and terror, the result was life, order and joy. In one instance, a deranged pilot bent on wreaking havoc…in this instance, a skilled pilot determined to avoid disaster.
Reminders of the human potential for doing good or bad, and the respective potential outcomes of such actions.
There is the good with the bad…We had Swissair leaving from NY land in our waters and all on board were lost and now monuments and the still grieving overlook the waters near Peggy’s Cove…My daughters were snorkling in the waters off of the South Shore that looked out over those waters months after the disaster and a piece of a luggage was caught between the rocks. It was a very sad feeling….
Joner #189, yes, so close you can watch his face change expressions… ahhhh
And why do I love that “bing bing bing” at 3:29 when he hits the key like he’s ringing a front desk bell? lol
Tofan #188 This video shows all the qualities we love so much about David – his charm, his joy, his talent, his concern for another, and his deep appreciation for the music.
And his beautiful face!
Joner #189…thanks for the link. The HRC performances brought me such peace and joy…I haven’t watched them since Tuesday and yet they remained with me all week. This was the perfect pick me up. My heart is full to bursting right now.
Well said, Marlie7
SF #190
You are too funny. I heard Virgin Records was going to be closing in 3 months so when I first starting reading your post I thought that was where you were headed…that list was comical and I will be sharing. My youngest will get a kick out of the poupon one and the titty one LOL
Sorry, Pensive, but my intuition tells me to interpret events as a good sign (just like it told me to interpret 9/11 as a terrible sign for W’s administration – 8 years later, I was proven right). Mark my words!
Anyway, SF, could you tell us where you got news about David attending an Inauguration event?
RE: your #190 post: hilarious!
TOfan #188 – Thanks for the link. This one is a TREASURE! Love the banter, love the eyebrows, love the look of concern. Oh my!
Oh and love the singing haha!
HG..here’s the Inauguration info..
http://www.observer.com/2008/o2/inaugeration-parties
FOD is “confirming” that David will be there as a guest, not a performer.
HG..I forgot to tell you..read the comments after the article..almost all about David! haha!
#188 TOfan; Thank you, thank you, THANNNNNK YOU for that link. I can’t stop watching it–the best of the best of David and he looks sooooo happy and relaxed. My favorite is 4:34 – 4:36 besides the eyebrows, concern and banter. Ok, I think I understand this “hate” thing. I “hate” him. ahahahaha
So, what songwriter/musician is going to write the song of the century for David where he can sing and play piano in the style of ATM – it will be EPIC, beyond EPIC as in experiencing INFINiTIY and BEYOND! And, we will all be pushing up daisies when we hear it.
HRC interview, very sweet interviewer and she gets David to open up about ALTNOY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAuq01T06g
Kizzi, #207, ROTFL, love your post. Reminds me of a letter I started to write to David that began, “Dear David, You make me giddy. I am not a giddy person, ask anyone….” hahahaha
#208 TOfan -You are killing me….ALTNOY from personal experience – makes the vid even more compelling and when he says “…. when I left home for good pretty much….” (around 1.56) An arrow pierced my heart—awwwwwwwww
#209 TOfan – I know the “giddy” thing. I am doing giddy, silly, sooooo not me things. My family just hugs me, rolls their eyes every now and then…when I am not looking….and love me too much to say anything cause as my baby (21yo sweetheart – ummmmm – he is a college graduate as of Dec 12th) says, “Mom, if you are happy, we are happy.” Hubby says he is a smart boy….everyone in my family is a comedian.
SF, I am absolutely tickled that just about every comment is about David Archuleta and no one else!
#31 Silverfox,
I’m not sure anybody noted this already, but I am pretty sure Falling was not meant to be written in the first person.. rather David said it was the experience of one of his relatives or close friends and he was writing it from that person’s perspective.
Just watched ATM at HRC (again) . . I think my hear is about to burst. I am so amazed at the connection David has with his audience. Everyone there must feel like he is their best friend. David – you are beyond remarkable!
You guys are so right. It is just not humanly possible to watch that HRC ATM video without having a myriad of feelings.
kizzi 207 – I CANNOT wait. Epic might not even be a big enough word.
Kizzi and TOfan – I love you guys and your giddiness!! How are we going to manage when the solo tour comes around haha!
SF – love your new/old avatar. Oh that goofy look he has!!!
HG..wasn’t that great! haha!
Virginia..Yes I knew that..I even made a video with that in mind..That David could FEEL the lyrics he wrote..but at the same time…and AGAIN..I do not KNOW this, but if you really listen to the lyrics, it COULD, I emphasize COULD, mirror what David may have felt when he thought he may not be able to sing again..It’s very hard for me to imagine a young boy of 14 being able to find the words to convey such pain & sorrow w/o having at least had some of the same feelings at some time..IMO only. We don’t REALLY know why or what compelled David to write such a hauntingly, sad, beautiful song.I’m just glad he did..It made me understand what my son must have felt, and made me “feel” that David understood too. Only one of many reasons I will love David unconditionally forever..David & Jeff obviously wanted us to hear Falling, even knowing some would find it hard to figure out why David who is always smiling, always happy..would have the need to write it.
Sorry if it seems as I KNOW…I don’t. No one ever ASKS David about Falling..The ONLY song in the album that is his composition alone…why is that? Even if the lyrics are dark..the music, the words, not to mention THE VOICE..are sublime..I love it!
OK..what about David saying ALTNOY was based on “personal experiences”? He did say that didn’t he?
Liz..well..my avatar..I thought since David will be going to the Sundance Film Festival by invitation!..he may as well LOOK like the STAR he is right? He needs to get used to wearing shades..as all the biggest stars do!
emmegirl08 and davidfanLIZ: EPIC is a weak…very weak…descriptor. It will be ground breaking….dazzling…mind blowing!
I am completely in for the solo tour. I think listening to David sing live is a transcendent experience—a vacation,a holiday, a sublime luxury. So my plan is to attend as many as feasible and take a friend, a different friend depending on the location….I mean why not give a friend the sublime luxury of hearing David sing live. Oh, yes it will be another quantum leap in growth for David and what that turns out to be is always the nougat, the rich center of the whole experience.
Hi all- getting caught up from last nite:
160 Beebe- SO WELL SAID- Gosh how did you look into my heart that way?
The best analogy I can use is knowing when you meet your soulmate vs. floundering around as a young adult, trying to find them, wondering how you now if it’s the right person. When you know you’re in love, you just…know.
I have always “sort” of watched AI. ( on & off mostly) But honestly not a fan of pop culture or pop music! I was not even sure which of my local stations played pop- before David.
One David by-product is I am a way more cool mom than I was before. ( Well I was cool in my own way but…..Now
I know all about my space, you tube, pop singers, teen shows, magazines, and yes even the chicken noodle dance.
At any rate-
kizzi – just curious, what are your thoughts on mostly acoustical sets, tracks and no band on David’s tour.
After months of fans saying they want to hear more of just David’s voice there have been a few grumblings about no band.
emmegirl08 – I think I read he was not going to have a band, but play piano and guitar on his solo tour. I really like ATM and I have always liked his songs with minimal accompaniment. My 3 top favorites (as in most played) are Love Me Tender and Somebody Out There. I went to the Albany JJ and I enjoyed the smaller crowd and seeing David up close.
That being said, I also equally loved his performances at Madison Square Garden with the band. He was aflame and his set was sandwiched between Kanye West and Chris Brown. Honestly, he belonged there with the band and the whole MSG experience with the slate of top Pop Stars.
I enjoy his voice so whatever plate it is served on with whatever sides, I’ll enjoy it.
SF – Yeah, David DOES need to look like a star. Love the shades, David!
And Falling… I don’t want to cross the line that rascal has laid out about David’s private life, but it’s pretty clear that David understands the pain in Falling. It was a relative or family friend’s tragedy that inspired the song, but it was David’s profound empathy that let that event resonate in his soul. It was his artistic sensitivity that took those raw emotions and created a first-person account of that darkness.
This song takes you to that place that we’ve all been to in some degree, whether in sorrow or in deep depression. And his sweet voice and lyrics offer a path out at the end of the song.
Yes, David does dark really well. His sweet soul understands pain as well as love and joy. At the beginning of “Be Still My Soul” he says that this song has been very meaningful for him. He says that it is good “just to know that with the ups and downs of life, that the Lord is always there for you.”
Oh Boy! I LOVE this topic. “Organic” David vs. “Electric David”.
OK…We all know David is a fantastic singer who does not need accompaniment by musical instruments. His voice is an instrument all on its own.
Would it be a detriment or a “plus” to him if his solo tour was less embelished with background instruments? Is the rest of the “radio listening” public ready for this?
Joner!! I know, as you mentioned, he would kick a$$ if he performed Falling on just a grand piano. We have to make this fantasy come true!
EEEEEEEEEEEK Freofan!!
Be still my heart!!
kizzi – thanks for your response. I have only seen him in SLC on the AI tour. I love the idea of the more acoustic performances too. The thing for me is “the voice.” It really does kill me! However, when watching the videos of the JB’s I really liked the vibe with the band and watching him work the stage too. Regardless, he will slay us with his talent and charm. (and I am insanely jealous of your Albany concert. That is the one I would have loved to have gone to.) That seems like the one where he started ramping up “Works For Me.”
Freofan – Falling on a grand piano. Yes! I vote for a real piano at these venues. Better sound, plus no technical problems with buttons or slidey foot pedals haha!
davidfanLIZ – This is MY FANTASY….BLACK baby grand, David alone on the stage with a spotlight on him singing FALLING….
*thud*
joner – great tag, “organic” vs “electric”.
raising my hand for – organic.
COOL emmegirl08!
Everybody……your thoughts????
Baby Grand, yessss!!!! (That could be his nickname, couldn’t it?
)
wait a minute joner – does organic David eliminate dancey David?
AWWWWW – High Five TOfan! He’s our “Baby Grand”!
joner & davidfanLIZ – the baby grand is so elegant. FALLING is gut wrenching, and to hear it live….well I’d have to meditate and insulate my psyche and take boxes of Kleenex cause I’d be a living,human waterfall throughout the song….daises hear I come!!
emmegirl08: However he does the solo, it will be different and his growth and attitude will give a new magic to his music….ummmmm….TOfan,do you have an remedy for unrelenting giddiness?
emmegirl08 – It could be the best of both worlds. David playing piano (and maybe guitar????) on a few songs, plus the tracks for the high energy, strutting, hunkerdown songs.
Good point emmegirl08, dancey David would need to rock out, hmmm…
(high five Joner, hey wait a minute, you don’t have hands lol)
TO fan 188:
Wow- great close up of ATM. I had not seen that one- love the random singing before the sont…I just left this comment
I am sitting here smiling at the computer like a fool. ( Hey Bliss!)Yes, David’s fan base will continue to multiply like Tribbles.
Signing off ( Scotty) as Just another Tribble.
Embrace that giddiness, Kizzi, make it your friend … with David around it’s here to stay! yay! (see there I go again).
Didn’t Gavin Degraw’s unplugged set in Albany get you thinking about how David’s tour could be? (Maybe he did too….)
#233 emmegirl08 – I think his “chicken noodle dance” falls under “organic”…no?
TOfan – I never thought of that…..I need to grow some stems!
If guess if you agree just whistle…..you know how to whistle, right? “You just put your lips together and blow” (BTW….thankyou to Lauren Bacall for that line)
davidfanLIZ, #236, I like the sound of that compromise. I love him at the piano but it does make hunkerdowns a little tricky haha… oh man, need to go out, fun topic, will check in later…
Liz.. Yes. that’s what I heard as well..however, I’ve never heard anyone ask David about it directly..I think I mentioned this before..when I told David I loved the song and thanked him for it, for just a split second, he looked a little surprised and I felt he really appreciated me telling him how I felt about it. I mean, since he wrote it about someone else and what HE imagined she must have felt..why is it so hard to ask David about it? Maybe someone has & I just haven’t heard about it..Anyway I love the song and it’s helped me. David put it out there for us to hear..I would like everyone to appreciate it as much as I do, if not for the content, the lyrics, then for THE VOICE..If he is ever asked about what & why he was inspired to write it and he says it’s not something he wishes to talk about..then fine, at least we get it directly from David.
OK now, how ABOUT that 1000 Mile closeup video?? and what about ALTNOY? I wonder who the lucky one is? HE SAID IT..we all heard him so I’m not breaking the rules here!!
And I’ve always said..all we need is a babygrand, a mic
and David, THE VOICE! And now..a guitar too! nothin else..that’s all and we’ll come!!
TOfan: Yes, when I heard Gavin perform at Albany I thought about David doing the same….and at HRC he was gravitating in that direction.
Giddiness – embrace it, it is my friend….breathe….embrace it, it is my friend….breathe…(stop interfering ****** Super Ego)……breathe…..embrace it, it is my friend…..breathe……
Ok, I am getting the hang of it. I’ll keep practicing til I get it!
#242 SF – the baby grand, a mic, David, THE VOICE, a guitar, but what about THE SUIT?
Dang! ..I was late with my last post…meant for Liz way back at #223..sorry!
SF – I’m glad you had the chance to tell David face-to-face about how much you loved “Falling.” I don’t know of anyone else who has asked him about this song in an interview or in conversation with fans. Since he is completely responsible for the song, I can only imagine that your comments were really meaningful for him.
Joner: I like the idea of organic (and for a few dancy moves, he can bring a recording of some of his song backgrounds). I guess this seems like a way for David to get the kind of experience others get by doing the bar and club scene for a while. Connect with the audience, try out a new arrangement of a song, try out a newly written song (be still MY heart), play face-to-face with your audience. And from the vids of HRC, it seems like David shines in this kind of venue.
Have a fun evening all. Wish I could hang around til the ‘nuts’ get here!
Kizzi…What??
NO! No! Actually..he looks Good in anything, but I really LOVED how he looked in the AOL sessions AND the Sacramento Jingle jam..Oh and the MSG concert..oh and the..well you get my drift!!
Ok, personal experience here. I have always LOVED Kelly Clarkson. She’s the one that I got hooked on American Idol for. Actually, until David, I never felt as connected to a contestant as I did to her….anyway…
I’ve been to several of her concerts and the one song that made a HUGE impact on me was “Beautiful Disaster”. On her CD she did a “rock” version of the song, but in concert she chose to do an organic “sitting on the piano” version that BLEW MY MIND. I never, ever, listened to the words of that song until she did it in concert that way. I will never forget that…how an artist’s choice to perform a song can “make it or break It” to the listener.
I don’t know how the rest of the audience felt about her performance of that song, but for me, it totally made the difference of listening to and “feeling” the lyrics. It was a very memorable experience for me. I will never forget that moment.
I think David is capable of giving those types of moments to unsuspecting listeners.
kizzi – love the advice, cause all this talk of piano, guitar, hunkerdowns, archustruts, and dancey David has left me…okay, giddy. Good time to hit the treadmill.
Talk to you all later.
marlie7 – Newly-written songs, now there is a beautiful idea! How did rascal put it? In his Ode to Joy post rascal enumerated the joys of David’s music, starting with:
“The joy of discovery in new music. One of the blessings in being a fan is that the surprise of new material is married to the warmth of familiarity. It’s like traveling to new and exotic locations with a lover.”
love you, rascal!!!
SF #190…”Forgive your big mouth”??? LOL!!!
Ok…But only if you’ll promise me a “get out of jail for free” card when I post something I’m afraid has pi$$ed someone off!
Deal???
David at Sundance TOMORROW per FOD!!!
“Update on Sundance!
Mccrack’s daughter just heard on her Utah radio station, 101.9 FM, that David will be at Sundance tomorrow from 9:00 to 11:00 am. They just gave away 10 tickets! Anyone else have any info?
MORE INFO from Mccrack!
I just called the radio station and the guy said David will be performing at the Stanfield Artist Lounge, 751 Main St. in Park City, UT. You can purchase tickets at the Stanfield Artist Lounge (you have to actually go there) for $50 to $75 each. He said it will be a two-hour show and he doesn’t think anyone else will be performing, just David!!! If you want to call the radio station, the phone # is 801 470-1019 (you have to let it ring forever).”
…I forgot to add a SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! at the end of my previous post!
Joner!…I have Kelly’s LIVE performance on my MP3 . I bought it on itunes..IT’s FASNTASTIC!
The girl’s got moxy! Going against TPTB to do her own thang!! I luv her!
I am so excited for Kelly Clarkson’s new CD to come out. Actually, I have fantasies of her and David doing a duet. I think they would be phenomenal together not to mention going “full circle” from David singing to her in the lobby of a hotel 6 years ago to singing “with” her now!
I get shaky just thinking about it!
Dang! David at Sundance tomorrow?! For 2 hours!
They’re not giving David’s fans very much notice are they?
Is it too late to catch a flight? haha!
A duet with David & Kelly..Now that would be something!
They’re playing her new single here a lot..The dj’s love the title…MY LIFE WOULD SUCK WITHOUT YOU…
My exact sentiments about David! haha!
OK. I have preempted this by my previous posts stating how much I love Kelly Clarkson. This is the first single off her new album….
I’m not doing handsprings….what do you’all think?
I think every song on David’s album sounds better than this, but maybe I’m biased…I don’t know…
Check out the comments to see how the public is reacting….very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h09_1qdkFIA
#173 DFL
Nope, Adam is only 3 months old. This is Kamille. She may be my grandaughter by marraige, but I love her like she’s mine! She is 20 months old.
Thanks for the links to the videos. Up close ATM and Twist interview. I forgot who posted them – Tofan maybe?
I have been fighting for my computer rights all day since school was cancelled today.
My goodness I love David.
Thanks betsy – What a beauty Kamille is!!! You are truly blessed with some lovely grandkids.
Wow, David is performing for two hours tomorrow? I hope we get vids and pics!
I have been laid up with a cold/fever that I caught from one of my co-workers, who came to work with it. Ugh!
“Archu Mcsweety Cute Jeans”! I love that name.
Feel better Freofan.
Davidfanliz – That is a tomato she picked out of my garden last August and proceeded to eat like an apple!
Joner #260 I have to agree with one of the posters that this sounds more like something Katy Perry would do. And I always really liked Kelly, too – and still do, but there sure must be a lot of pressure for these electronically enhanced-sounding same-tempo songs that all sound the same on the radio.
Joner..Like I said..the DJ’s here love the title..so they play it even without requests.but it’s not really my
cup o’ tea..
It does sound just a biy like Since You Been Gone..which I liked..but this one..not so much..
But look at the # of views and comments! seems most are liking it and hope it’s a hit..
I read that they photoshopped Kelly in the photos (and I thought it was so cute that she mentioned that, too, in a joking way), but she looks beautiful in the album shots. I wish her all the best. I didn’t watch Idol at the time she was on, but she seems like a nice lady and talented.
Isn’t that incredible about the safe landing of the US Airways flight? I hope that the pilot is honored somehow at a national ceremony. I read that he even went down through the aisle twice (the last person on the plane) to make sure no one had gotten left behind.
Wow, some people from Snarky’s got tickets to the concert tomorrow and they are already looking into flights. So we will have images from tomorrow! *two hours*!
Yes FREO, I agree, that pilot is a hero and deserves all the praise he gets. I would like him to be my pilot on any of my future flights, thankyou very much!!!
While we are on the subject of Kelly Clarkson, I would like to share this with all of you…I think you’ll “get it”.
Sorry,,,you may have to put up with a little advertising in the beginning (I don’t know how to get rid of that) however, I think it’s worth the wait and I believe David would agree!
http://video.aol.com/video/kelly-clarkson-thankful/1117085
Joner #260, Kelly’s got an amazing voice, but she sounds more like Avril Lavigne in this song (to me, anyway). marlie7, I agree, very overproduced, guess that’s the “sound” these days.
SF, “MY LIFE WOULD SUCK WITHOUT YOU… My exact sentiments about David!” ROTFL… and yes he did say that about ALTNOY…verrrry interrrrestink….
Joner…love it! Love the bluesy, R&B vibe..it’s great..I had really forgotten how versatile Kelly is too, just like David..mmm David would KILL a song like THANKFUL!
I wonder what Kelly thinks of David? or If she saw any of his performances on AI? Thing is..the performances on AI, most of the songs..that’s not what David’s about now..you know..ballady type songs..
Joner, #271, now THAT’s Kelly! girl’s got chops….
Joner #271 Oh, man, she is awesome in that video! Thanks for sharing. It amazes me that the record companies would take a voice like that and make her sing that other song that was on youtube. And yeah, a duet with Kelly and David would be hot, hot, hot!
OK…I am SQUEEEEing over this new info from Snarkies..
New technology is on the horizon, referred to as “LBS” (Location Based Services) and…
Apparently “Jive/Zomba said it is exploring using the technology in an upcoming David Archuleta campaign”
UPCOMING CAMPAIGN!!!! ♥♥♥♥♥ I love you Jive!!!
Silverfox, I’d think Kelly would be aware of David. After all, he sang to her in a hotel lobby several years ago. And he also covered her coronation song, “A Moment Like This.” Surely she saw some of his peformances.
I’d love to see the pair tour together. Honestly. Hot, hot, hot.
Just checking in what you CRA-ZEHs are up to
If you live SONGBOOK5′s video of ATM, I suggest you watch/download all of her vids on HRC. She recorded even the banters in between songs so if you make a playlist of all her vids, it is like watching the whole show!
More de-lurkers – great!
Will chime in later re the organic vs electric David. Gotta go! CYL. Muwah to all!
Hi all. Wanted to weigh in on the solo tour unplugged vs electric debate. I posted a while ago my preference for solo, smaller, sold out venues. Wanted a die-hard Archuleta audience that he could feed off of and learn from and experiment with so I am happy that seems to be the direction that they are going. I am confident whatever they do regarding the band will go well, but hey, I’m just givin’ my preference. I saw David during the AI tour, Albany, and HRC. So that’s where I am coming from.
I think as Rascal said, David needs to (and I’m confident he is) journey down the road of finding his “style.” He needs begin to find both his professional musical style and his performance style. I really feel he needs a live band to do this. Not that HE won’t be terrific without a live band, but that it is a lost opportunity for the learning. The interaction between him and a live band musically- the improvisation, the changeups (which we all crave) cannot occur to a great extent with a recorded track. One can just not compare the two. And while I was highly critical of the volume of the band in Albany, I praised them even then because they enabled David to groove, strut, hunkerdown, and glance-away (my favorite moves.)
The intensity was heightened in Albany over HRC, and I think there are a variety of reasons for that, but I think the live band played a big part in that. Also, you need dark to show light, loud to show soft; you need white space and balance. You can achieve these elements with so much more success with a live band- the acoustic set will soar all the more when sandwiched between some sweaty, grooving songs. The live band also pumps up the audience- a critical component in any live performance and one that we already know David feeds off of. I could go on and on, but I won’t…..
Great article, well said and thought-provoking, Rascal.
Marlie7 #1 “
Happy, “The live band also pumps up the audience-” if I hadn’t experienced the magic of Ford Day (not an all Archie crowd by any means), where David did that all on his lonesome, I’d agree with you 100%. Although actually I do agree, some band, some “free-range organic” as beebee says, is ideal for all the reasons you mentioned. Can. Not. Wait….
Joner, Upcoming Campaign??? Watch out world!
Thanks for a fun night all!
Oooop, finger works faster than brain. Bad….
Marlie7 #1 “I think we should just enjoy the parts of himself that he shares with us and watch as his personality and style unfold.”
Couldn’t agree more. It works for me at the moment.
SandyB, wonder why people are sending you hugs. Got to find out, haven’t been here for a while. Anyway, a {{{hug}}} first!
Love this site, huge amount of positive energy!
TOfan281- how long did he perform at Ford Day? I think we are talking apples and oranges when you are pumping a crowd for 30 minutes and when you are sustaining a level of intensity and involvement for 2+ hours. Also, I think (ducking down to avoid the tomatoes) that a taped track is beneath his potential as an artist, and while I think he may have to settle for it for practical reasons, I think he deserves better….
I agree with you happy. I prefer some of David’s acoustic-sounding songs, like “You Can,” with the live band. I also think it’s great when he mixes in some a cappella and ATM on keyboard, but for a whole show I prefer the band to be there too. Plus I liked the interaction between them and David. They seemed to really take him under their wing.
Wow – it looks like Jenny and Becky of FOD are going to try to cellcast tomorrow night’s performance by David at Sundance. David is the only performer and it is sold out already. FOD reports the venue is getting inundated with calls and are very excited about it.
Apparently Amy from Snarky’s has a ticket and is flying out there tomorrow morning. They are so funny – and so lucky!
Happy!! You made some very valid & sensible points, some that I didn’t think of. You are right of course, that David deserves a band, preferably the one he already had..that wouldn’t mean he couldn’t also accompany himself on some songs, since he already had in the Jingle thingys. I would just LOVE for him to do the smaller venues..preferably for 18 YO’s & up..am I being mean? At least for a few venues..where we could really enjoy David..I think I could hold my screams for the chance to hear THE VOICE!! I would Love for David to experience an Adulates only audience where he can see and believe how truly awesome he is, cuz he’d think we love him JUST for his vocals we’d let him think his looks mean nothing to us..nothing at all! hahahahahahahaha!!
and what he wears is insignificant! Hahahahahahhahah!!
He ain’t no teenage sensation to us adults!
hahahhahahahaha!
I crack myself up sometimes!! I’m sorry, happy! I tried to be serious!
SF286- glad to see you came down off of the nut-dancing-table with your scarf and high heels and got a little serious….not!…. when you attend this non-screaming show of his I suggest you bring a paper bag…. handy little gadget to both scream into it (it will muffle the sound) and breathe out of (helps with the hyperventilating)….
“cuz he’d think we love him JUST for his vocals we’d let him think his looks mean nothing to us..nothing at all! and what he wears is insignificant!”
bwaaaahhhh!! are there STILL people out there trying to insist that the way he looks is irrelevant? I thought we got past that piece of fiction.
Posting again, since I just put this on the wrong thread!!
OMG. What just happened? Sorry to burst in here without reading ANY comments, but I have the TV Guide thing playing, and I’m only paying attention with about 15% of my brain cells—it’s an Idol wrapup show of some sort, covering the first couple of AI8 shows last week, blah, blah, blah. There’s a former contestant on (girl), who—I barely caught enough of this—says there’s a reality show in development featuring (this girl from Idol who’s talking) and “another former finalist” whose initials she could not give because they would “totally give it away” if she said them. Gah! Could the initials be “DJA”??? Could David be in L.A. doing a pilot for this thing? OMG, that would be so over-the-top awesome. Sorry to have so little info—does anyone know more about this????? My heart just LEAPT out of my body (is that a word, I can’t spell)????
check out the link below for the Park City event… now in THAT kind of venue…. no band required…….. the intimacy is all he will need….. what is the capacity? 250? …..better have 250 paddles…..thud.
http://www.stanfieldfineart.com/
have changed my avi to offer the requisite supplies for the brave souls lucky enough to be present at tomorrow’s show….. I’d offer to be a first-responder but I am having trouble breathing just imagining it (grabs paper bag from SF)…it’s no use pretending…..oh the tingles…..thud.
Hi all. Just want to ask you, am I the only one here who hasn’t seen this video yet or is this video old news?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuHl1_DTb4w
Marly..I was over at snarky’s lurking..trying to find info on David and the Sundance thingy…they were all trying to talk Amy into going to Utah. Someone who lives in Utah bought 4 tickets and had an extra ticket so I guess Amy decided to throw caution to the wind and just said YES, alright, I’ll do IT, I’ll go! She’s flying out in the AM. Very small venue.. 250 people! wow! fantastic!
Friggin YEAH!! if I was Amy’s age and single, I would be following David to EVERY friggin appearance like a friggin groupie..heck with work, I’d just beg for food & gas money and sleep in the friggin car! Actually, there were “groupie” families and a few actual groupies during the AI tour that were following the buses from venue to venue! I met a few at the barricades..cra-zeh groupies!
AHAHAHAHA…
Remember the song that came up and to which our David danced too? Well the playlist was switched so when it was Nolan’s turn, ALTNOY came in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOf7heZuow
Watch at counter 26 — so funny how the audience just sang-a-long – LOL
SF: I’m with you on that – if I were young and single, I’d hop in my car and be gone! Reminds me how wild I actually was when I was young and single (does anyone remember Summer Jam ’73 at Watkins Glen?) Gosh, I shouldn’t go there……
sgj #291 – how did I miss that one? Thanks for posting the link.
SF #292 – I was just going to post about how excited they are over at snarkies! Reading their comments makes me wish I was that young and free. Wait, I may not be young (or actually free), but it is never too late to start doing crazy things, is it???
JR293- you saved my life….. there I was all thudded out…… suffering from lack of oxygen…..then you arrive with your link….. don’t know why I clicked it… did not like Spectacular boy’s performance AT ALL (great teeth though)…. watched until I felt nauseous again (about 10 sec in) and then I clicked on the other Twist videos of our David…I really enjoyed their vids… captured the feeling of being there pretty well….. now if only we can get some vids tomorrow…… oh no! not that thought again!………thud.
good night all. thanks for the fun.
archiesfan4life – It’s never too late. Although, these days when I get a wild hare I’m usually plucking it and not doing something crazy. hahaha!
highervibe – was the girl another finalist from Season 7? Do you remember who it was? I always thought Jason Castro should have his own reality show
juliebug #297- LOL – I know what you mean!
SF/marlie/archiefan- btw- can I just say that I was invited to join my niece and brother-in-law in Park City for a ski weekend THIS LONG WEEKEND and didn’t go because I AM NOT YOUNG AND FREE!!!…….oh, the slings and arrows of life…… sob, sob….thud.
even joked…”maybe I should come just in case David performs there…oh that’s crazy…”……. do I sound bitter?……….thud.
happy – maybe we need to start a movement – the need-to-be-more-spontaneous movement and our theme song can be Free Bird!!!
archiesfan302- “maybe we need to start a movement – the need-to-be-more-spontaneous movement and our theme song can be Free Bird!!!”
Freebird FTW! thanks for cheering me up!
I survive by looking on the bright side……decided to take all of the money I saved on the flight and apply it to my more local David events!! Archheads unite!
EVERYONE..who wishes they were young & free!!
I am FREE as a bird!! that is not the problema…the problema is…I’m too friggin old !! I don’t FEEL old..when I look at FRIGGIN David (i hate him) I FEEL really young on the INSIDE! Just can’t get my OUTSIDE to match!!
But if I were a young chick..I’d be right there in the shadows sometimes, and sometimes in the open..just so as not to spook him..(I hate him for making me feel this way)…No..I really love him!
Happy!! How were you to know that David was going to have an intimate concert..It was just announced this friggin morning!!
SF304- LOL!……you make me happy……thanks.
Amen.
really this time……good night all. thanks for the fun.
And besides all that…I’m jealous! He’s singing ALTNOY about someone? WHAT??
Was it someone he met on AI perhaps? Hmmmm?
Good nite happy! sweet dreamz!
I better say good night too..cuz I’m getting all upset at the unfairness of it all. why can’t David be 45 or 50? I love younger men!
I’m ready to repent again..
Good nite all..And for David..as usual..if the MAN UPSTAIRS still listens to me…
Dear Lord, Though we are unworthy to ask,
Please take Care Of David. Watch over him, Protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no to those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his ARCHANGELS do. Separate David from those who have agendas other than for his wellbeing. Give him rest when he’s weary. Give him stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms. Keep David healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
Though we may be unworthy, we humbly pray.
Amen.
Sweet dreams! Be safe & secure in our love always! Take care. You will always be numero uno in our eyes! Thank you for all you do and for just being you!
CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR!
archiesfan4life & juliebug…Good nite & sweet dreamz to you both too!
Hey everyone,
Love reading what everyone has to say. Always reading everything and following all the links – thank you so much for posting them.
Well, I have a rare opportunity to post, and I wanted to comment about the interview linked above where David talks about ALTNOY and says it comes (partially?) from “personal experience.”
I believe that when David talks about “personal experience” influencing his songwriting, he doesn’t necessarily mean HIS personal experience.
I got that feeling the first time I remember hearing him speak about it. It was in NYC (pretty sure?) in an interview right after he performed CRUSH live for the first time – and everyone sang along and he was blown away. He mentioned then in the interview about relating from personal experience and I get the impression that they are sometimes personal experiences of friends. You know how he always said that he was too young for a relationship and his friends would say “oh, we broke up and now I CAN’T LIVE without that person.”
Well, just wanted to share that thought.
Kizzi:
Thanks for posting about the nD get-together on 34th street Monday night. As much as I would LOVE to meet you guys, I regret that I can’t be in the City on Monday night. It’s a school night and I won’t be able to get away.
Actually though, I think I will e-mail you for details on the outside chance that I may be able to swing it.
**really hoping and praying**
Rapture, you could be right. Or, David could have had feelings for someone that he was too shy to act upon..the songs could reflect that too. ALTNOY could be about a close friendship that he wanted to become something more, but he lost his chance when the other person moved on. That’s my interpretation of the song, anyway
LittleM,
Yea, I did think about that too…imagine being the “someone” on the receiving end of David’s admirations!
I’ve got to figure out how to get an avatar! Maybe over this three-day weekend!
Signing off before I fall off my chair. 2:00 am here!
Goodnite all
#188 Loved the new closeup HRC video of ATM. Seems fans would just love to spend time talking to David about New Years, birthdays or almost anything. Later on, he could do a little singing. He’s so full of compassion, it’s spilling out of him. Who else would feel so compelled to ask if the girl was okay, in the middle of his song? I wonder why she was crying. Does anyone know?
I’m so torn between the full band vs the piano/guitar. I’ve said before that I would prefer as few distractions to the voice of THE VOICE as possible, and yet the band adds so much to the entire show. My husband has been teaching HS band for many years and thinks they should have a band behind him. He’s been a fan of David’s since day one and feels that the band adds richness to the music and entertainment to the audience and makes the show have a more professional feel. Hubs is usually right about these things; I absolutely trust his judgement on this. And yet…..
Did I read that right? David at Sundance tomorrow for a two show? Just David for two hours??? ****THUD**** And so the solo tour begins!
Actually Bebe – I really doubt it will be a full two hours of David. That’s a LOT of songs. But I think it will be more than the 4-6 we’ve been getting. Everyone is taking the word of the ticket sellers answering the phone. From past experience, we know they don’t always know what the heck is going on. The press release mentioned another act. So I think those going will probably get about a hour of David if they are lucky. Which is AWESOME. But two hours? Nah. Even the biggest stars with years and years of songs to pick and choose from, with many, many albums…you usually are lucky to get an hour and a half show.
FYI – In case anyone needs this. ahem…
From a “Mailbag” question in a Fayetteville, AR newspaper…
Q: How can I contact David Archuleta, or his tour planners, so we can ask him to perform at the Dogwood Festival? — E.B., Fayetteville
A: Write the singer at 1100 Glendon Ave., Suite 2000, Los Angeles, CA 90024.
You can also use that address to write to Archuleta’s manager, Jared Paul. Archuleta, now 18, finished second to David Cook in last year’s “American Idol.”
LittleM – No, the girl was not from season 7. Since that’s the only season I’ve ever watched, I don’t know who it was. So sorry I didn’t catch it from the beginning. I am so curious now!!
Some more info for the SUNDANCE AFFAIR:
Stanfield Fine Art, The Dream Factory, and What’s Next Who’s Next Magazine PRESENT the first-ever official Sundance interactive, 3-D Film/Art/VIP Lounge. Showcasing the latest in innovative 3-D technology from the visionaries at The Dream Factory, sponsored in part by Mitsubishi and GenAudio. In addition to all the 3-D eye candy, the Stanfield Artist Lounge will be showcasing the amazing POP art of Steve Kaufman, and hosting the hottest late-night parties with amazing audio artists Three 6 Mafia and David Archuleta! Film, Art, Music, and the latest and greatest technologies combine in one space to provide the best Sundance LOUNGE experience on Main Street!
http://www.stanfieldfineart.com/
Mobile carriers answer call for new services
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SURGE EXPECTED
Verizon Wireless, which first promised to cooperate with application developers a year ago, said it would provide developers GPS data from three of its Windows Mobile smart phones — Samsung’s Omnia and Saga and HTC’s Touch Pro.
Sprint is providing its location data to the aggregators WaveMarket and uLocate, which will then offer it to developers interested in creating applications for their respective platforms. The aggregators say they’ll meet Sprint’s security and privacy requirements.
Thanks to these moves, industry experts expect to see the number of new LBS applications entering the market each year to surge from a handful to the hundreds.
“If you wanted to launch a location-aware app before, you had to strike a deal with the carrier, which is a brutal process,” said Joel Grossman, vice president of marketing and product management for WaveMarket. “That’s a hassle not only for developers, but for carriers, because it’s not scalable for them. I think you’ll see the business pressures on other carriers will lead them to adopt a more open solution as well.”
AT&T plans to launch an LBS infrastructure in early 2009, although it has provided no details yet. T-Mobile’s plans remain unknown.
What does this mean for the music industry? Grossman said WaveMarket is already working with several labels he declined to identify to develop LBS applications for new album releases and marketing plans.
Label sources admitted that they are only now starting to scratch the surface of any potential LBS app