ArchuLovato Tour: Career Boost or Bust?
The tour dates are out, the publicity machine is shifting into high gear, and the teen gossip mags are wondering what they did in a past life to deserve such a teen-dream pairing.
Dami, Double D, Lovchuleta — whatever you call this David Archuleta/Demi Lovato Tour, tickets go on sale this Saturday.
Are you pro or con? Undecided? Still holding out for Carnegie or Massey Hall? Here’s how the TDC cleaning staff weigh in on the subject.
Boost
I am fine with it. I am fine with whatever he is doing. He is no pushover. He sets his own standard, his own high bar of achievement. — kizzi
Bust
David opening for anyone other than someone like John Mayer or Jason Mraz is just disappointing. That he should be opening for Demi Lovato, a young Disney-rocker doesn’t make any sense to me. Why isn’t she opening for him? There are the career implications to worry about, but I’m more worried about the fan implications – meaning me. What the heck do I have to endure to hear David sing? I wasn’t a big fan of the other nine performers at the AI tour last summer, but it was worth the wait for David’s short set. At a Jingle Ball show last December, I gamely, or should it be grimly, sat through Boys Like Girls and Katy Perry waiting for David’s turn. Then finally the solo tour was announced. At last! It was heaven this past March to see David, and just David, sing a whole evening in a smaller venue. There was only a quick half hour of what’s-her-name and then the whole show was just David. Pure bliss. But now that he is rapidly gaining popularity, when will that precious opportunity come again? Yes, I will go to a Demi/David duo, but here’s the good news: I’m giving myself permission to leave after David is done. — davidfanLIZ
Undecided
Opening for Lovato isn’t as cringe-worthy as Miley or the JoBros. But, on the other hand, Demi opened for the Jonas Brothers last year, so David’s opening for a Disney opener… ouch. I’d prefer he either continue to do small solo venues and slowly build buzz or tour with someone whose fan base is as wide as his (Natasha Bedingfield, maybe), but clearly Jive (and Disney?) have other plans. I was excited for the tour when Lovato announced in her online fan chat that there would be Canadian dates. But not so much now that they never materialized. (Either she’s holding out on us or she flunked her geography final.) — TOfan
Neutral
Although I would prefer that David have a chance to open for a performer more seasoned and with a more mature audience, that isn’t in the cards yet. David is 18 and enjoys being around performers his own age as he has said many times. What could be more fun for David? Sometimes I think we want him to grow up too fast, to reach his potential in a heartbeat. For now, I think this is a chance for David to have some youthful fun, something he’s been hard-pressed to have time for in the last year and a half. Do you remember the summer you were 18? Party on, David! — Marlie7
Two more cents
Good or bad always depends on your point of view and your overall goals. This tour? Exposure: excellent. Big tour experience: excellent. Cultivating a youthful audience: excellent. Networking with the young “in” Disney package artists: excellent. Providing revenue to Jive: excellent. Experience with the big music world machine: excellent. Maintaining wholesome image: excellent. Promoting new children’s clothing line at “Justice”: excellent. Developing credibility as a serious artist among the older audience: poor.
Do I love it? Me, a card carrying member of the Springsteen Party? Am I looking forward to paying $90 for 10 songs to be endured with a wonder wall of screaming kids? No. But I am not his target audience right now. How much evidence is needed before the obvious can no longer be denied? He is cultivating a teen idol image. A truly talented and respected teen idol image, but a teen idol image nonetheless. iCarly, Hannah Montana, a children’s clothing line, preteen magazines, relationship with Build-a-Bear, touring with a major Disney up-and-comer. Say what you will, that ship sailed long ago. Get over it. He will enjoy this experience… he’s a teen pop star for goodness sake. He’s not biting the heads off of bats.
This tour provides him with another opportunity to gain invaluable experience with a powerful and well oiled machine. Artistic credibility? Not so much, but the voice will still soar. And I believe that David Archuleta is an artist whose talent and charisma will enable him to outlive his reputation as a teen idol and establish himself as a serious artist à la Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Johnny Depp, Jodi Foster. If Ozzy Osbourne can rehabilitate himself, anyone can. It can be done. It has been done. He will do it if he wants to. He will want to. We will still be here. We know it. He knows it. And TPTB know it. — happy
I’ve already given up
…And that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I’ve never doubted that David can and will, in the end, survive virtually anything the music industry decides to throw at him. David will prevail. For those of us who have been around a little longer (ahem), it’s hard not to focus on the immense potential we see in David, rather than on the incremental steps needed to reach that potential. I admit to being one of those who wants to see David doing what he is so obviously capable of sooner rather than later, and to not “waste” his time on things like, oh, opening for performers who can’t touch him with a ten-foot pole and who have audiences that don’t help his market cred in the slightest.
And yet, I am content. I am content with the knowledge that David is extremely methodical, and that having the opportunity to be in lower-visibility venues and markets might, at this stage, be more comfortable for him than stepping out in front of an audience of, say, Jason Mraz fans. I am content with the knowledge — when I remember to remind myself — that David is still so ridiculously young. I heard a radio interview recently with an up-and-coming comedian and comedy writer who claimed to be “still finding his personality” and “just getting to the age where” he feels like he has something to say. He’s 26.
And, I am content to trust the Archuletor. Even when he must capitulate to the decisions of others to whom he is contractually bound. –Rascal
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And I believe that David Archuleta is an artist whose talent and charisma will enable him to outlive his reputation as a teen idol and establish himself as a serious artist à la Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Johnny Depp, Jodi Foster. If Ozzy Osbourne can rehabilitate himself, anyone can. It can be done. It has been done. He will do it if he wants to. He will want to. We will still be here. We know it. He knows it. And TPTB know it. — happy
This is where I stand. Well said Happy.
happy – loving all your points!
but the voice will still soar. And I believe that David Archuleta is an artist whose talent and charisma will enable him to outlive his reputation as a teen idol and establish himself as a serious artist à la Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Johnny Depp, Jodi Foster. If Ozzy Osbourne can rehabilitate himself, anyone can. It can be done. It has been done. He will do it if he wants to. He will want to. We will still be here. We know it. He knows it. And TPTB know it. — happy
His voice will soar in whatever he does. And yes they all know it, especially the TPTB. We will be attending as many concerts as possible just to hear and see him, the tweens can’t stop us…lol.
You can’t deny that voice; it shines through even in the most muffled sounding video. You can’t deny that smile that draws people in and lifts their mood. You can’t deny his determination; he’s unstoppable. David Archuleta is so versatile that he fits into any type of musical genre. Disney is only temporary; he won’t be eighteen forever. In fact, in less than two years he will no longer be a teenager. As I said before, I can wait until the Disney craze is over and at the same time support him in the same way I always have. He is the best thing to come into this world in a long time. Wishing him all the fun in the world on his upcoming summer tour! He certainly deserves it for all the love he has given to us.
Thanks Happy, for this much needed post!
In a previous post I said I wouldn’t buy ZG if someone else recorded it… I want to take that back, I will support David in everything he does…I’ll buy it because he wrote it, but I won’t listen to it. There I feel better now.
David Archuleta returning to ‘American Idol’
David Archuleta is the latest “American Idol” veteran scheduled to make his return to the FOX reality smash.
FOX announced that Archuleta will perform next Wednesday (April 22) in an important double-elimination episode of “American Idol.”
The double-elimination was caused, of course, by the judges’ decision to utilize the Save on Matt Giraud, the contestant who received the fewest votes following the April 14 show.
Next Tuesday night will be Disco Night for the Top Seven and the following night will see Disco icons Harry Wayne “KC” Casey (of KC and the Sunshine Band), Thelma Houston and Freda Payne perform a medley of their hits “Get Down Tonight,” “Don’t Leave Me this Way” and “Band of Gold.”
Archuleta, the runner-up to David Cook in “American Idol” Season Seven, will perform “A Little Too Not Over You,” his grammatically twisted new single.
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-4-16-archuleta-returning-to-american-idol
djafan #4 Sigh, that’s a hard one. I can’t for the life of me understand why Jive won’t release ZG with David singing it. It just doesn’t makes sense unless there’s some policy that we don’t know about. But David is more than a performer, he’s a full-blown artist now and as we have seen with ZG, he writes songs that are sure to be hits. So if buying a copy of ZG sung by another performer is going to benefit David, of course we’ll make that purchase. Amazing how, with the exception of “Barriers” and “My Hands”, my favorite songs by David have turned out to be the ones he had a hand in….ZG, DLG and SOT.
bebereader – #6 I hoping and praying it will be part of the next album. I just can’t imagine them ignoring the response to that song with David performing it. And you’re right about the songs he wrote/co-wrote were my favorites from the get go, Falling, WFM, SOT, and DLG. After watching his live performances he brought life and meaning to all of the songs, he made sure we understood them. I was listening to Save The Day today, my stomach gets all in knots just with the thought of the day we get to hear him sing it live.
Meant to comment on this one so I’m reposting. Hold your fire people, I won’t do it again.
SF-Sorry I missed wishing you ‘Feliz Cumpleaños!’ I didn’t realize your birthday was so close to one ‘Rascal’ who’s Birthday is today! Happy Birthday Rascal, what are you now, 25?
Do you think it would be rude to leave an ‘Archuvato’ concert before the ‘vato’? Just wondering…..
goboywonder . April 16, 2009 at 2:40 am .
So it’s confirmed…Altnoy it is. I’ve always liked the song, more since seeing his live performances. I think the Asia performances were so far the best of Altnoy, he kicked it up a notch with those .. he really nailed those high notes. With it being the double elimination I think viewership will be very high so it will do wonders for his album sales. I read over at FOD that his album, Altnoy sales have increase. Crush leveled off some. I wish I wouldn’t brought those numbers over… to many posts over to find them.
djfan, I have to say that I am elated that he will not be singing TBWY or YC (even thought YC is one of my most favorite off the album). I actually like ALTNOY even though it is not jumpy/bouncy as ZG or TMH, but at least he can move around the stage and he always gets screams when he points and does the “hunkerdown” for the high note. And this should increase sales of ALTNOY and DATA (hopefully).
Is it just me or did it seem like the AI was pretty tame and not all that screamy (not a word but?), when Cook was on? Maybe they were just trying to behave after his online fan scolding. I have a feeling that the remaining 7 of AI (the new class) are going to be kinda surprised at the fangirl/boying going on when DA’s on.
goboywonder – I have to say that I am elated that he will not be singing TBWY or YC
I’m 1000% with you here… Altnoy is somewhere in between the ballads and the bouncy. And I’m all for the hunkerdowns. Over at snarky’s there is a cami who will be there…someone asked her to bring a sign. I’m glad to hear they’ll be there.
i’m bringing lots of David fans. i’ll be standing in the pit so i don’t know if i can have a sign……..
Happy Birthday in Cleveland….those security guards were so smitten.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qenw5plZ-O4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snarkyarchies.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
JesseQ . April 16, 2009 at 3:24 am .
Is it just me or did it seem like the AI was pretty tame and not all that screamy (not a word but?), when Cook was on?
Yes, I did notice, the audience was pretty tame. I didn’t really like the song. Maybe it is the repercussions of his scolding his audience so rudely. I can’t wait for the raucous David is going to cause!
djafan, lol at the person taking a bow. Yes they were smitten, but when it comes to David, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
ArchuLovato – Career boost or bane?
Been away, have read most comments and I have chosen to be mum about this Demi-David thingy. But this thread solely for that purpose so I will share what I have been keeping in my chest.
Hmmmm… he will get added exposure so that could be a boost. But is it the kind of exposure he needs at this point of his career? (NOTE: not what we want)
Granted that many still do not know Archuleta, as pointed out by many here. Sure that is the reality. And yes, esp when the primary target market (PTM) of TPTB has always been the young Disney segment. Yeah, I agree it is a goldmine. So IF the objective is to get maximum exposure and get a share in that lucrative pie, why not open for Miley or JoBros or Taylor instead? They have a track record already of filling-up stadiums upon stadiums of screeching fans. In fact, since David and Miley have a duet coming up, wouldn’t that have been more logical?
Note that am not talking about talent here. Demi definitely has some edge and potentially could be one of the finer talents of Disney. Heck even John Mayer twittered about her. So touring with her is no problem with me. They even make a cute couple.
BUT, I just can’t swallow that David would OPEN for her, given the ff:
1. album/single performance
2. results of his solo tour
3. the reception that he received in Asia
4. the forthcoming UK Tour
5. overall buzz in the market
Now if he is guesting in her concert tour — that is another matter. And more palatable, if not acceptable. Cos aside from image-building, positioning is equally important in one’s career if you want to be taken seriously. Even if your PTM is the tweenies segment.
Cos what the heck is the real purpose of an opening act? Most of the time, the opening act’s performance serves to “warm up” the audience, making it appropriately excited and enthusiastic for the headliner. The opening act is usually an up-and-coming talent with a much smaller following than the featured artist. Is this really the case with Demi and David?
Glen Boyd once wrote in the Rockologist: “For many concert-goers, the opening act is an afterthought at best. It’s what the rest of the crowd is doing while you’re across the street getting a pre-concert buzz at the nearest bar, or who is finishing up as you’re showing up at the last minute to find your seat. Conversely, there is also a certain breed of concert snob who will tell you they are only there to see the opening band, as in “Screw U2, I’m just here to see PJ Harvey.”
Sound familiar?
Some bands don’t use opening acts at all. Every time I’ve seen Led Zeppelin or Bruce Springsteen, for example, it’s always been billed as “an evening with” the headliner. Although, I know for a fact that Bruce once opened for Chicago early in his career. Heck, Jimi Hendrix’s first American tour was as the support act for the Monkees.
My point here is, if you’ve been going to rock shows as long as I have, sometimes an opening act will surprise you….”
So yeah, there is no doubt that the Demi fans will be surprised of our David. They will be blown away and he may gain new fans. So again that is a boost. BUT then again, I bet he would have gained more new fans if it were a Miley or JoBros or Taylor headliner…
So why is he being positioned this way? That is my beef. To guest in Demi’s concert? Fine. But to open? COME ON!!!
And BTW, of course David will do it. He is contractually obligated to do so. And of course he will appear to enjoy it. Cos there is no point not to.
OK, throw tomatoes now that I have said my piece.
I don’t know Demi, so I am not going to say anything about the Demi/David tour.
However… David is having his adventure in this entertainment world, he will have sunny days, rainy days, good days and bad days. To be strong, he got to overcome any obstacle set in front of him. And as a fan, I want to be his energy and support.
If David could finish AI gracefully, I don’t see Disney or any other things would be a problem.
I love the movie “Lord of the Ring: Two Tower”, and I love the words Sam told Frodo, “I know, it’s all wrong. Be right, we shouldn’t be right here, but we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn’t want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines, it will shine out of the clearer. Those where the stories that stayed with you, that meant something… Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, I do understand, Mr. Frodo. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going, because they were holding onto something. That there’s some good in the world, and it’s worth fighting for. ”
I want to be patient until David become what he is.
Greetings from Malaysia! I have been enjoying the hospitality of the e-community at nD, jD & TDC–kudos to Rascal, and the team of writers & contributors of the blogs who have done such a fantastic job in discussing the artistry of David. Thanks so much for offering me a “refuge “ to feel at home here and to get my regular dose of Archufix. I feel I know most of you already.
This is also my first time ever to post online at a David’s fansite. Sorry I will be off-topic, Tofan. Enjoy your
thought-provoking article though. Well, I am delurking today to share with you my Archuleta experience in Malaysia. My birthday wish came through when I won tickets (organised by Digi mobile network provider) to both the showcase and an autograph pass to see David but no meet and greet pass *sigh*. Anyway, I gave away 2 extra showcase tickets to AAM (Archuleta Avenue Malaysia) at the venue knowing there are some die-hard fans who were desperate for tickets to the showcase.
I was seated 3 rows away from the stage (in a VIP enclosure) with unobstructed view but unfortunately right in front of the multiple speakers. Somehow the sound system was not very good. The amphitheatre was filled to more than capacity and the screams of the fans were deafening to say the least especially so when David started to perform. I couldn’t even hear my own conversation. I was surrounded by mainly teens/tweens and some older adults scattered in the midst. Should I feel out of place as I am not a teen/tween ? Not really.
When David appeared on the stage, my heart was beaming with pride. Finally I was able to see David performing live and I couldn’t resist zooming my binoculars to have a closer look at David – he was so breathtakingly gorgeous , basking in the archuglow after working the audience and strutting the stage. David completely owned the stage. The crowd went wild whenever he pointed in their direction during the performances. When he ran to my side of the stage and pointed in my direction, I couldn’t help myself either. I am normally very level-headed but the fangirl in me was unleashed and I found myself responding to his singing by stretching out my hand to him too. I felt he was singing to me and I didn’t care what the young fans thought. I sang along and I gave him a standing ovation after each song. Our David sang with such conviction.*thud*, hard not to be slayed by his performances. Watching David sang “Don’t Let Go” live was so amazing and DLG has since become one of my favourite songs.
The 18-Digi winners of the autograph passes was the first batch of fans to meet David. We lined up orderly like pre-school kids and we were led through 2 flights of stairwell to the basement for the autographing session. Through a small gap between the screens, I could see that David was still having his tea. My first thought was “he is so David” . I have become very familiar with our David and I recognised his mannerisms too-the way he swung his body (kinda restless) and the way he held his sharpie. Mostly his radiance shone through. Up close and personal, David looked so contented and when he flashed his megawatt smile, my heart simply missed a beat. He stood throughout the autograph session. Naturally, I was very thrilled to meet David but at the same time somewhat disappointed that I had to exit through another back door as soon as my 1 item was signed. No photography was allowed. In the 2-3mins, I greeted and shook hands with David and gave him my gift bag. We exchanged some pleasantries and then I was hurried by the handler to the exit door. I then realised I forgot to introduce myself, dang it. I hope he had the opportunity to read my letter and open my gift.
Anyway, David if you happen to read this message, I did mention in the gift tag that I love you and that you are “such a rarity”. Hence my screen name. Hope you had enjoyed your stay in Malaysia and will return soon to do a full concert. Malaysia loves you, Malaysia Boleh!
Do you remember the summer you were 18? Marlie asked
I was Pregnant!!! LOL
Abrra
suchararity . April 16, 2009 at 6:24 am .
Welcome and sit for awhile here in the new home?
What a great experience you had, despite the loud arena. Many of us live through others up close meetings with David. I have had one myself. It’s otherworldly.
Abrra the spammer who is leaving for work and will not spam until later
Good morning all! Thanks Goboywonder, but from the scheduled appearance of “disco performers” next Wednesday, I so wish David could debut ZG in that line-up.
Moving on to the topic for discussion: Sigh. Because what else can I do? Yes, as others have said, the Voice will soar, but of course it’s going to soar. Look who surrounds him? David could sing circles around any of his current peers, so that’s a given.
My issue with this Teen Idol stuff, which, you know, I’ve pretty much resigned myself to because his label is insistent, is that it’s not what David’s about musically. Yes, he’s having fun with the kids his age, but just because he’s around the kids his age, just because his label wants to include him in the “Young Hollywood” crowd (as Lisa, aka Soundscene over on IDF, puts it) does not mean he should be held to their standards. Sorry!
As a college professor and former high school teacher, this is the equivalent of forcing your A student to cover up his smarts so that his peers won’t feel inferior or make fun of him or something. That’s a faux notion of how democracy works. Equality doesn’t mean the same homogenous processed version of “youth culture.” It means allowing diversity, yes, even within the same peer group.
Something else that’s just annoying to me about this teen pop progression. I’ll say it now, and will probably shock some of you, but if I had discovered David, not on American Idol when he touched my soul, but as a Jive artist just breaking through, NO WAY would I have fallen head over heals for him, NO WAY would I be suffering from ODD, NO WAY would there even be a Noting David-turned-Just David-turned-The David Chronicles. We wouldn’t have had that tender moment of witnessing David hearing “Crush” played on the radio for the first time. We would have had just the song, with no back story, and we would have judged it on its own merits (sans knowing that David was singing it) and think it was just some other pop song, and by the time David appeared on Jay Leno or the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade or whatever to promote it, how many of us non-teen/tween fans might have said, “Cute kid” then move on as if he were another Zac Efron or Nick Jonas?
That’s right, I said it. If I had discovered David through Jive and not American Idol, my reaction would not have been, “Hello, Gorgeous!” It would have been “Cute kid,” and I would have moved on! My stomach turns somersaults to even admit that. Whatever problems I have with Idol, I do love that show for offering me a glimpse into who their contestants are. When I heard David sing “Heaven,” and when he declared that he was going to make us “understand the song,” I believed him, and I understood the song. In what way has Jive allowed David to help his audience understand his songs? David sure does when he’s performing live (and the only reason why he was even given an opportunity to do his own solo tour so early in his music career – which I’m no longer going to call “early” since he’s been pursuing this career before he hit puberty – was because he already came with an army of Arch Angels from AI: the same army that helped push his first single to the platinum success that it was).
So, as an “older” fan, I may recognize the marketing sense in pushing David toward a pop teen sensation image, but I certainly don’t have to approve of it. I’m not going to be checking out anytime soon, as it will be fascinating to see how David survives and thrives after all this (and it’s also helpful in understanding why the music industry is struggling – they have complete failure of the imagination when marketing true genius), but this is very much the equivalent of “grin and bear it.” And yes, like LIZ, if I do end up at this summer concert, I will be leaving after David’s set.
Good morning! Happy, love your post and will give my 2cents after I think about how to say what I’m thinking, but first…
Happy Birthday rascal! May you have many, many more!
Thank you for all the happy birthday wishes extended to me last night. I wouldn’t have mentioned it was my B-day at all, but I just found it so wonderful that David happened to choose to sing Happy Birthday yesterday to everyone in general yesterday of all days, my birthday. Coinsidence I know, but still…
Then I opened my email as I do every morning after I’ve scanned the net for all things David, and what do I find? More birthday wishes. You know who you are, and I thank you so much!
JesseQ..Muchas gracias! Nice to see you! And thanks for the heads up about rascal!
I plan to see David on this Lovato tour, and enjoy the heck out of him in this stage of his journey. He has no need to take any time away to discover who he is – he’s been telling us all along, if you’ve been listening… especially in the Asian interviews. He’s a young, incredibly versatile and talented artist who just loves to sing, wants to be able to make a living at it, and have the time to try different things before settling into his groove or niche in the industry.
If one is experiencing undue angst or heartburn over the Lovato pairing – check your own projections and expectations…. David doesn’t seem to be so caught up in the race to be the next big thing, and doesn’t seem to even aspire to that rarified air of mega stardom in pop music some in this base seem to live and die by… His artistic credibility has and will never be in doubt for me, and one tour opening for Demi Lovato is not enough for me to question that….
David lives and breathes music, and one album that may not have lived up to everyone’s expectations is in no way indicative of the type of material and artistic growth he will bring to the next one, and the next one…. nor is one 10 week tour with Lovato indicative of the future tours he will be a part of, or the caliber of artists with whom he will open for, or who will open for him.
My peace of mind and confidence in David is not predicated on who I feel is worthy enough to open for him, or who I may feel he is worthy to open for – I’m aware of the reality that everything he touches will not turn to gold, every decision made is not going to be universally accepted, there will be missteps along the way in his career – doesn’t sway my belief that his talent runs too deep and is too formidable to be drowned out or suffer any damage by opening for Lovato.
I don’t own rose colored glasses. I see the challenges and the pitfalls inherent in the situation, and in the hands of a lesser talent or artist, it probably would make me a little queasy. Not with David. He is not the first, nor will he be the last artist to take more than one album/cd or tour to find the groove that will define and sustain him throughout his career…
David opening for Lovato, for me, is just another round of dues he has to pay in the grand scheme of things…. being David Archuleta will not and does not exempt him from this, regardless how great and ‘complete’ a package some think he already is…. it may not be relevant to many of you, but good lord, if Hendrix could be the opening act for the Monkees, after he literally set the music world on fire at the Monterey pop festival, and survive lo these many years with his artistic integrity and dignity intact, I think we, his fans, and David will survive him opening for Lovato…..
It’s not always how or where you start – it’s how and where you end up that matters… lotta time in those intervening points for David to come fully into his own. and god willing, I’ll be around to see it all.
Happy Birthday, Rascal!
Hope you’ll pop in, if only momentarily, to weigh in on this subject and, of course, accept your birthday greetings.
HG: If David has what we all think he has, a true talent, a gift, a depth of artistry that will only grow, then even Disney and Jive can’t keep him down. As I listen to the current CD, I’ve said before, there is only mediocre material there. The CD would not pull me in as a new fan. But a live performance by David is breathtaking. He breathes life into lifeless songs and grabs you with the personality he projects out into the audience.
I agree that it will be a while before David is discovered by some older fans. That is a given with the audience Jive is trying to capture. But I believe David will rise above the “standards” of those around him. He already has – he can’t help it. The next CD will be better than this last one, and the one after that even more so. I think it’s important for us to let David choose his path – and I do think he is choosing this path for himself. He will make it into something more, as he always does. We will have to wait a few years, though, before his artistry is fully developed such that he can afford to break out of the Jive machine and go his own way.
In the meantime, I’ll wait and watch and enjoy the trip. And maybe David will have a little bit of fun, too.
Not to spam, but I forgot to say:
David needs a little while to build a stronger base of material before he opens for a John Mayer type. Even with his talent and growing performance skills, David’s CD would likely disappoint an audience like that. If David has a CD in hand with stronger material, that is when he should go after the audience that is more mature.
Happy Birthday Rascal! Though my hands still shake when I find the courage to jump in and post here, I’m grateful this site is here, to provide a much needed platform and avenue for deeper expression and community in the fanbase. There are days when my ODD needs this type of outlet, and I’m glad you’re here.
Marlie, I have the faith that David will rise above it all. What I was only meaning to convey is that, had we only had Jive’s image of David to discover David, the story would be very different. The only reason why any of us can even say, “keep the faith,” or “Trust the Archulator,” or “David will rise above the standards,” is because we’ve been given a glimpse into what he’s capable of. We’ve been saying these things about David looooong before he even signed with Jive.
So, we know what’s there, and what David can do and where he is most likely to go. But, if you didn’t know a thing about David outside of what his label is constructing of him? Who would see that? Unless, as you remind us, Marlie, you saw him live, and if you’re just discovering him vis-a-vis his label, why would you even know to discover him live?
Thanks to word-of-mouth by those who know to “Trust the Archulator,” David’s artistic reputation even exists. I’m not saying I can’t have fun where David is at right now, but I’m so not going to pretend that I’m okay with this teeny pop sensation stuff, which is as fabricated and as ill-fitting as that shiny suit David was forced to wear on the AI tour.
Hi, GGdoors! I remember you from way back on TWOP forums, when you defended our David from various accusations that he was just some “Utah wonderbread boy,” and not the “soul man from Utah” we all know him to be. I would have chimed in with you, but I had already been banned from the site.
Hope you will post here more often!
Here is an example of David gaining a spontaneous fan. Watch the black security guard right behind David during and after this impromtu Happy Birthday.
HG: David says he doesn’t know what his style is yet. I just want to give him time to find it and perfect it before we push him into performing to an audience that expects material that is a tad higher quality than the current CD. I think this is giving him a living while giving him some time. And in the meantime, he can collect fans one security guard at a time
Yes, David has said he doesn’t know what his style is yet (by which I’ve always interpreted to mean he doesn’t know if he’s strictly pop or singer/songwriter or soul/R&B, etc.).
He’s also said he didn’t want to do Disney, so…
Again, Marlie, by your example, this indicates that you’ve got to witness David live (and in his element) if you’re going to become a fan.
HG: “Again, Marlie, by your example, this indicates that you’ve got to witness David live (and in his element) if you’re going to become a fan.”
Yes, right now you do, because the CD isn’t going to do it. My point is he needs to develop some material that would sell him without the live concert before he is going to tap into a mature market. THEN, they will come to the concert or after seeing him at a more established performer’s concert, they might buy the CD. But I’m afraid that if you put him in front of John Mayer with his current material, the audience might like the performance, but I doubt if they’d like the CD.
Hi hell0g0rge0us! Yes ma’am – like my grandma used to say – been on ‘dis old battlefield’ a long time for David
I’ve learned to pick those battlefields more carefully, but there are times like on TWOP when I feel compelled to gird my loins, pick up my shield and sword and engage. I’ve loved and had deep admiration for many artists, from all genres, throughout my life…. few have inspired and compelled me to go out of my comfort zones, challenging me to open up to new ways of listening to, hearing and experiencing music….. As my screenname implies, Jim Morrison remains one, David is another.. two very different sides of the musical coin, but each opened me up to accept and celebrate artistic genius in whatever form it presents itself.
suchararity – Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Looking through your eyes at David’s performance and the autograph session was thrilling. That time is so fleeting and magical, isn’t it?
HG: I know I would not have heard David sing on radio as I wasn’t vested in Top 40 radio or any radio for that matter. As it is, I am not an AI fan, never watched it, am actually a BIG SNOB about AI and reality TV in general (I mean–sheesh–reality TV is so contrived). The only reason I watched David was because my daughter TiVo’d his Imagine performance and that was all it took. It could have been on “Bonnie Hunt,” “Leno,” “Ellen,” “Hanna Montana”, “iCarly,” youTube, my granddaughter’s iPod, in a hotel lobby overhead, in a mall while shopping…anywhere…that did it for me. So, all I can say is that it was meant to be; that I was fated to be an early David supporter.
My “new age” style theory is that there is a certain amount of mental, emotional and intellectual energy (highervibe would call it “vibrations”) that is needed for an artist, of any medium, to be successful. And, this is what I must contribute, my energy, my attention, my support, all that I can give from my mind, my heart and my soul. And if we multiply that by all of us more mature fans, that is highly significant. Or as happy said “we will still be here. We know it. He knows it. TBTB know it.” Kinda nice to be considered a solid foundation, a home base, a group that no matter what will be there through thick and thin for David…actually, for me, it is highly satisfying.
And, we are seasoned enough to know that one moment in time is just that, that a battle can be lost here and there but the victory is the war….or in this instance, the victory is the body of work over the course of a career. And, this last year is just the beginning, the rest, the best, the peaks, the joys, and yes the valleys are yet to come.
This journey is so incredibly energizing and soul defining. What is happening in David’s career is causing us to rethink, recalibrate our thoughts, desires, likes, dislikes in the world of music. In many ways the brushes and colors that are painting his artistic journey are also adding to our life’s portrait. How grand, how fortuitous is that!
ggdoorsfan: I look at the full part of the glass too. I have four granddaughters and talked with them the last day or two about Demi. Now my 4 & 6 yo wear all things Hannah Montana and have toys and sing her songs. They don’t know Demi.
My 11 year old is somewhat familiar with Demi, says she is “too old” for Hannah Montana and says Demi “rocks” and is a sweet girl. My 13 yo says Demi is Disney to her but not “Mickey” Disney, but “cool Disney”—I am still trying to get her to tell me what “cool Disney” means but she stopped texting cause her Mom made her go to bed so I’ll resume that dialogue with her today. And my 13 yo lives in Tampa and wants to go to all the Florida concerts during the tour. The 11 year old is in, but for David, not Demi–she is the one who has a wall in her room papered from floor to ceiling with David pix and posters. So from this very small and quite anecdotal slice of children, tweens and teens, teens know Demi, tweens are familiar and children less so.
“Yes, right now you do, because the CD isn’t going to do it. My point is he needs to develop some material that would sell him without the live concert before he is going to tap into a mature market.”
And who’s fault is this? Certainly not our David’s (Jive, I’m looking at you and holding down the fort at the watchtower!).
That is precisely my issue with the way his label is marketing him at this point. Having already witnessed what David can do, we’re here either griping about the current direction or relying on a “half-full” perspective of David’s future just to keep hope alive, as Jesse would put it.
And don’t get me wrong. I am keeping the hope alive, because as both GGdoors and Kizzi and others have expressed, we know that David is just too special to dismiss, and he already dug deep into us, so we’re not letting go.
But, ack! His label, his label! Ugh, I’ll say no more. The one bright spot with Jive is that they’re not RCA, which would have dropped David like a hot potato the minute ALTNOY didn’t do a repeat performance in sales like Crush did.
So, I will do some meditation and burn some incense and keep the mantra going: “Trust the Archulator, Trust the Archulator…”
BTW, Jive is pretty damn lucky David grabbed a whole of us, because if David really was just another “pop teen sensation,” as they think he is, we’d so be done right now.
Oops! That should say “grabbed a hold on us.” (What a Freudian slip!)
OK, time is really getting ahead of me, and I need to get ready for work.
Until next time!
HG, You spoke my mind:
if I had discovered David, not on American Idol when he touched my soul, but as a Jive artist just breaking through, NO WAY would I have fallen head over heals for him, NO WAY would I be suffering from ODD, NO WAY would there even be a Noting David-turned-Just David-turned-The David Chronicles
The teen idol strategy is not cost-free — it costs him key 20-40 male demographics. Very early on he was asked whose careers he would like to have and he answered Jason Mraz and John Mayers. So he didn’t foresee this teen idol thing for himself. However, everything he touches he turns to gold, so he will rise above this. For me , I have no qualms about leaving the concert after the opening act – no offense to Demi and I am sure she is very talented, but no way you can shove a Disney teen star down my (old) throat.
YJfanofdavid. John Mayer is 31 years old and has been in the business since 1997. Let’s give David a little breathing room here. Jason Mraz had a single that took 4 years to peak. Neither of them traveled a straight path to where they are. They both started with a slightly different sound than they have now, experimented with material and finally fell into their groove. It took 5 years on the music scene before Mayer received a Grammy for his performance of Your Body is a Wonderland. And even with that, he didn’t have a #1 single until 2005.
In 2003 he released a CD/ DVD that got only lukewarm praise from reviewers and peaked at #17 on Billboard.
From Wikipedia: “The CD/DVD received conservative, although consistent, praise, with critics torn between his pop-idol image, and (at the time) emerging guitar prowess. Erik Crawford (of Allmusic) asked “Is he the consummate guitar hero exemplified when he plays a cover of Stevie Ray Vaughan’s ‘Lenny’, or is he the teen idol that the pubescent girls shriek for after he plays ‘Your Body Is a Wonderland?’”
So interesting….
Great discussion. No time, but marlie 38, interesting info, great points. I know I am guilty of being impatient in my hopes and desires for David simply because I know what he is capable of, even now.
Have a great day all.
I’ve had several days to try and rally myself into a more positive frame of mind with regard to the DDD (Demi/David/Disney) tour and I simply can’t.
I will support him until the day I die, but I think it’s an insane waste of valuable career building time.
Sorry.
David is still trying to find himself, still experimenting with a little bit of this, a little bit of that. I think one of the main problems, if you want to call it a problem, is that what WE see in David, he still does not see in himself. He is still overwhelmed when he sees and hears how he & his music affects his audiences. He says he hates his voice, he thinks he’s funny looking. He has yet to say what he thinks of his performances, but how can he if he won’t watch himself? At this point, he thinks he is on the right path, doing what he feels he must to get to his goal of having a career like Jason’s or John’s. He most likely KNOWS all about the trials they went through to get to where they are. He “studies” his idols, not to “copy” them but to learn. He thinks he still has a long way to go before he reaches their level. Perhaps David thinks being a pop star is the path which will eventually lead to where he wants to be.
I think we stress & wring our hands because it’s frustrating to see a musical prodigy, a genius like David being taken down the pop idol path. I like to think TPTB also stress for the same reason, but have to look at the big picture…that’s where the money is and without money coming in, there will be no future for them (JIVE) with David. Do you really think TPTB are not aware of David’s immense talent? Are not aware NOW, that they have a gold mine in David? I mean, WE were blown away by David in his solo tour. We knew he was good, but come on! WE were as surprised and amazed as I’m sure Jive was. So now what? How do they put him out there? There are still too many people who don’t know what David’s all about, or even who David is. So they drop the bomb on us with this tour. Was this tour already in the works way back BEFORE David’s solo concert. Could be, but whatever the reason behind this decision and whether we think it’s beneath David to be a Guest on a 16 year old’s tour, who has a good voice, when we think David is THE VOICE, it’s a done deal. I’ll never understand it, but I accept it. My concern at this point is that the venues may be hard to sell out. Some will, some will not. Will it be a reflection on David? Demi opened for the JB’s last year so they say following that strategy, David should have a large venue solo tour next year..the difference is that the JB’s were HUGE last year, & Demi is still not in their league, so that explanation doesn’t fly. I will cross my fingers, hope & pray the Demi/David concert tour is a huge success. I have no doubt David will give 110% and will be magnificent. But if all the concerts don’t sell at least 3/4 of the venue, it won’t matter to TPTB, even if David is just a guest. That’s what is worrying me.
Sorry for the typos and the rambling. I don’t know if any of this even made any sense.
I’m here for David, which goes without saying. I’m here for the long haul cuz I know where he’s headed and what we are going to be rewarded with.
Have a great day everyone!
In 1973 I attended a Rolling Stones concert at MSG. The “opening act” was Stevey Wonder, and he had been a “name” artist for 10 years. No one thought less of him and he was, of course, fantastic.
David is in the infancy of his career. He needs to build a young fan base that will grow up with him and continue to support him as he, and they, mature. Also, David is not, in the traditional sense, an opening act. With all respect, I don’t think many people bought tickets to David’s concert to see Leslie Roy. I assure you, there will be thousands of people going to this concert just to see David. I fear for a stampede to the exits after he finishes his set.
When I was watching part 6 of the RazorTV interview last night the part that jumped out at me was when David was talking with the young woman sitting next to him. She seemed to be asking him about helping a friend of hers who was a talented singer get a recording contract. His answer was that getting exposure was more important than getting a record deal because there were a lot of singers with record deals out there who nobody had heard of. My first thought was that he is doing just this by agreeing to doing all sorts of things which gain him exposure to very different groups of people. By putting himself out there he is cementing his position with those who are already his fans and dispelling negative images held by many of those who know him from American Idol. We all know that there is nothing like seeing and hearing him live. The more he is able to do that, the more fans he will have. He does seem to make the best of the choices he has.
All that being said, am I happy about this particular tour? Not particularly. Will I try to get to a concert? Probably, because I love David and am feeling the irresistible pull of wanting to be in the light of his presence again. This is the hardest one to justify and also the hardest to find someone to accompany me. My daughter would certainly try to have me committed if I told her I was planning to go and would not be caught dead going with me. A Jingle Ball was okay because there were other acts she was interested in (even though she admitted David was the best singer of the night) and a solo tour concert was okay because I was paying and it was a good adventure. But a Disney tween concert, not a chance! I have no grandchildren to bring along and no friends with kids of an appropriate age to commandeer. It feels too strange to go alone.
In the end, I think David does know just where he wants to be and is following a path to get there albeit with a few twists and turns in the way. He keeps surprising us, Jive and the world and will continue to do so.
Well….it’s not all bad folks. Looks like David is not THE opener. Reinforces my feeling that despite the billing (given David’s HUGE presence on the flyers and advertising for Demi’s tour – more than most openers get) this is really a double headliner. I don’t think Demi can fill those stadiums on her own. With David…they just might.
http://justjaredjr.buzznet.com/2009/04/16/jordan-pruitt-joins-demi-lovato-on-tour/
Joner-I’ve been calling the ‘DDD’ the ‘David Demi Debacle.’ I am definitely feelin you on that one. Jackryan- Sup? Is it really saying something if John Mayer twitters about you though? Hell I think he twittered about me. jk
Still wondering if leaving an ‘Archuvato’ concert pre-’Vato’ is considered rude?
knotliser – “Will I try to get to a concert? Probably, because I love David and am feeling the irresistible pull of wanting to be in the light of his presence again. This is the hardest one to justify and also the hardest to find someone to accompany me.”
You should just consider yourself fortunate that you don’t have to spend your “allowance” on your ticket.
joner – I’ve spent my allowance for the next ten years on seeing David so far!
SF & Rascal, a big Happy Birthday to you both!
ggdoorsfan, “David opening for Lovato, for me, is just another round of dues he has to pay in the grand scheme of things.” I agree! And it’s kinda funny that part of his “dues” is to suffer the fate of teen idol, such an unlikely one considering how embarrassed he gets at all the screaming and marriage proposals.
He wants to be — and deserves to be — thought of first and foremost as a musician, an artist, but is both too young and too telegenic for profit-chasing Jive to look past the lucrative teen market to the bigger picture. David does see the big picture, I’m sure of it. He knows that great music can’t be denied, so he’ll just keep on making it.
HG, I think even without A.I., we would have all found our way to David’s voice. I first heard Eva Cassidy in the background of a cheesy TV show and went on a quest to find out who it was. It took one verse of hers, for David, I think even Happy Birthday would do it.
knotliser, you should go — just carry a notebook with you and everyone will think you’re a concert reviewer (it will also explain why you’re leaving early
).
I think those of us over…ahem…20? should wear a tag that says “Press”. LOL
Let’s get this guy to tour with David. He can play the violin and sing the harmony on TBWY
TOfan, marlie, I had no idea you both were so..uh, sneaky!
What a great idea! A press badge & a note book. But how do we explain when the screams just come out through no fault of our own as soon as David hits the stage??
Jesse..perfectly OK to leave after David’s set. It was done all through the AI & the Jingle tours, and a few of the acts who followed David weren’t half bad, so I heard.
SF: The Screams? Oh, we are trying to write about the crowd experience and need to get into it if we are going to write an authentic article
Rascal #51 LOL, plus he’s kinda cute.
Hi All–Juliebug#44, that IS very interesting, isn’t it, about Jordan Pruitt being the “opening” act. Also, after watching Ellen yesterday, and the way she had to illicit the response from Demi about who she was touring with, I have a feeling that TPTB would really like this to be a Demi/David headline tour, and it is probably not easy for a 16 year old girl, who probably wants all the attention, as many 16 year old girls do, to admit that there will be another BIG act with her. Maybe, though, Demi was already slated for her own headling tour contractually, and it HAS to be marked as such, so now they are trying to find little ways around that??? Just food for thought—I have been thinking about all of this, and I can’t imagine that in this economy, Demi would sell out these huge stadiums without another BIG act, and, along comes David. NOW, it might be possible for some sell outs. I don’t know Demi at all, except for the few videos I have been watching lately because of the tour announcement, but I have a sneaky suspicion that more fans will be there for David than for Demi. I think that would be a worry for her camp. When I read the comments on the announcement from the Entertaiment Weekly websight, they were mostly about David, and how awesome it was going the be to see him at this concert.
I agree with Bliss#42 when he says that thousands will be buying tickets to see this concert because of David. I think the attention and exposure he gets from this will be enormous!! Thanks for letting me ramble!
marlie..I get it! But the decision to go to the Demi/David concert is getting harder..who is Jordan Pruitt? She will be “opening” on some of the tour dates. methinks maybe TPTB are doing all they can to dissuade David’s fans (older than 20) from attending the concert.
Oh well..There’s still Del Mar. Has David himself even said anything about Demi yet? If not, then his mind is on AI and the UK..maybe that’s where we should be focusing on cuz this Demi/David tour is just getting too tweeny/teeny. I do not belong there at all…so I’m done talking about it. Yeah.
Ah, now Rascal weighs in – see the updated article at the top of this page for another viewpoint. (We’ve been waiting to hear your take on this, Rascal!)
SF: You make me smile. Tweeny, teeny, Jordan somebody. It’s all a bit confusing still. Now it sounds like David is truly the SPECIAL GUEST, and Jordan is opening for “them”.
I’m still going, with my “press” badge and I’m leaving after David to go to a nice restaurant and have a good meal and an adult drink. To heck with the teens, tweens, and kids.
‘And, I am content to trust the Archuletor. Even when he must capitulate to the decisions of others to whom he is contractually bound.’ –Rascal
Sums it up for me, pretty much. Thanks for sharing your voice and your thoughts Rascal…. people do listen to what you have to say. All over the David centric boards….
I just wanted to say, because I forgot to in the above post, HAPPY BIRTHDAY RASCAL, and HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY SILVERFOX, and thanks to all of the awesome articles, videos, and posts from everyone on this sight. I rarely post because you all say what I would say, but you are better at it!! So, I just read everything, and mutter to myself, “I agree”, or, “Yes, that’s right”, and my husband thinks I am losing my mind, and my children laugh at me, but I don’t care! Reading this sight about David is much better than reading a good book!
rascal – Happy Birthday. And, your comment above….WOW…well, I was not expecting that from you.
knotliser #43 April 16, 2009 at 12:34 pm.
“His answer was that getting exposure was more important than getting a record deal because there were a lot of singers with record deals out there who nobody had heard of.”
I thought about the “Archulovato” tour also when David said this.
Rascal #51. April 16, 2009 at 1:47 pm.
“Let’s get this guy to tour with David. He can play the violin and sing the harmony on TBWY”.
Now that’s what I’m talkin’ bout! (no likely Krendra’s voice)
Rascal, “I am content with the knowledge — when I remember to remind myself — that David is still so ridiculously young.” Yes David has time and talent to spare, he will get there.
Happy B-day Rascal.
I really am not sure how I feel about this because I do think this should be shared billing. Having said that though, I do have to say that I still think our expectations are way to high for a person who really has been on the scene a short while.
What did Jive know or expect from David when they signed him that night in May? Certainly they didn’t know him, or get him like we do. They had a commodity, this shiny squeaky clean ballad boy. That is what they knew, and they had very little time to get up to speed, find out what he was about and get a record out in the blink of an eye.
We behave as if they are rocket scientists, or as if there were some fail safe marketing plan that they are just not using to catapult David to the top. Believe me in this climate in the industry, if they had it, it would have been utilized. They can’t even accomplish this for their marquee stars.
There are no fail safe plans. Of course we think we know best. We think he’s the best so therefore he must jump ahead of the line, we think that his talent is the only thing he needs.
There are so many talented people out there. Some maybe as talented as David. They put out cds and never get past that point. I doubt that happens to David. He will come out of this and he will be stronger, wiser, and more experienced. He will have been through a trial by fire. This is what he needs right now.
He’s 18. He’s adorable, and dreamy. It’s not an oddity that they want to capitalize on that. I know we all hate the Disney label, and all it entails. I just keep thinking that every darn time we kvetch and moan over something David has a way of making whatever we were poo pooing over into something totally different.
At the beginning of the year we were worried how appearing on the kiddie show would harm him. Well did it? Nah not really. We worried about the venues for his solo tour. Did it matter? No not really. We worried about a long set list and it’s effect of his voice and health. Did it matter? Nope, he thrived on it.
I am so past the point of micro-managing David’s career. This is a done deal. We have no say. Well we do. Do we support him in the efforts and decisions that he makes? Well I do. I might not agree with them all. I think that some of the people that advise him might be hacks. But for some reason I can’t work up a full head of steam for a young man that is getting ready to open an arena tour for another up and coming star.
I think this has more pros than cons. I think that he will be seen as the victor, he will be reviewed as the better singer, better performer, the true star. That can only bode well for him. A summer tour, where he will get alot more of the praise. I see a story arc that really couldn’t be more well written. Or maybe I just think, let David drive this thing for a while. He hasn’t steered me wrong yet.
Finally, I’ve been reading all over the internet about fandom. Especially about American Idol fandom. How it’s fleeting. How people move on. How most male idols have a fanbase much older than they really want as it’s not seen as sexy or cool to have a bunch of over thirty year olds in the crowd. I always got insulted because although I am over thirty doesn’t mean that my opinion or my taste became irrelevant as my ovaries aged.
I do feel that some of us are doing the same thing with the younger sect of his fan base. We are discounting them, their fervor, their taste, their musicality. Just as it isn’t fair for us to be questioned about why we are fans, it’s unfair to think that exposing David to them somehow taints him.
Marlie- Like the press pass idea, I’m going to have to actually learn how to use my photoshop.
SF- There were other acts on the Jingle Jam tour? wha? ha. Oh yeah some Lady blahblah or something.
Ya Rascal it was the violin talent that drew you to that video. Or something.
Brooklyndawn #64 – Beautifully stated.
I think this has more pros than cons. I think that he will be seen as the victor, he will be reviewed as the better singer, better performer, the true star…I see a story arc that really couldn’t be more well written. Or maybe I just think, let David drive this thing for a while. He hasn’t steered me wrong yet.
….and….
I do feel that some of us are doing the same thing with the younger sect of his fan base. We are discounting them, their fervor, their taste, their musicality. Just as it isn’t fair for us to be questioned about why we are fans, it’s unfair to think that exposing David to them somehow taints him.
I’d vote for you for President any day!
Oh, Jesse, you just think I’m as shallow as you are. (I’m shallower.)
Oh, I was remiss. Happy Birthday Rascal.
Is anyone else wondering about the size of these venues? They are huge arenas for the most part. If David weren’t on the bill, would Ms. Lovato have a hope in Hades of filling even the floor seats? Maybe I’m out of touch with how popular she is.
Brooklyndawn, “I do feel that some of us are doing the same thing with the younger sect of his fan base. We are discounting them, their fervor, their taste, their musicality.” Very good point. David’s not the only teenager who has good taste in music.
I still love listening to all the bands I liked (and saw in concert) as a teenager (CSNY, Jackson Browne, Fleetwood Mac). Yes, I thought JB was cute back then but, primarily, I loved the songs he wrote, pure poetry to me, and the way he sang them. I’m sure a lot of David’s young fans feel the same way about him and their appreciation for his music will only deepen as they grow up along with him.
This is fom Snarky’s..another appearance on June 6….
Utah’s state-of-the-art Rio Tinto Stadium is proud to announce the venue’s June 6 “CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME” event, a special Celebration of our Military featuring Utah musical sensation David Archuleta, the second leg of Real Salt Lake’s 2009 Rocky Mountain Cup series with rival Colorado Rapids, and the Official Dedication of the Stadium. Proceeds will benefit “Operation Warmheart,” serving Hill Air Force Base’s uniformed and non-uniformed personnel in need, and the Utah National Guard Charitable Trust, assisting Utah military families with various expenses that may arise during deployment of their Service member.
Archuleta, 18, will sing the National Anthem prior to Real Salt Lake’s kickoff against Colorado and will provide the crowd with a special performance immediately following the game. The star stormed the international music scene with his performances in late 2007 and early 2008 on the hit show American Idol, and was named one of Forbes’ Breakout Stars of 2008. His eponymous album was released in November of last year, peaking at #2 on the Billboard charts, as did his first single, “Crush,” which has sold 1.5 million digital copies in the United States. Beginning on April 21, the Murray, Utah-raised Archuleta will tour the United Kingdom with the British band McFly for five weeks before returning home for his Rio Tinto Stadium debut.
Also..we should be getting a blog/vlog from David soon, I think. I want to hear what he has to say about the tours he has coming up…if anything. And what music he’s listening to lately. Always interested in what David’s thinking and doing. His music suggestions seem to tell us about where his mind is.
“We will still be here. We know it. He knows it. And TPTB know it.” — happy
To borrow a movie line from The Thomas Crown Affair, I hate being a foregone conclusion. But it is so true! I’m not going anywhere, because he is the pied piper, and if he sings for the children, I’ll tag along. Wherever he goes, I’ll be there, waiting to hear the voice. I’ve never felt embarrassed at one of his concerts; I’ve bragged about how wonderful he is to anyone who would listen. Like I said, if they don’t like it, they can bite me. Listening to his live performance today from SLC, I felt his voice go right through me, enter my heart, course through my veins with every beat of it. Maybe other singers are able to do that for some of you, but I can’t get that from anyone but him. I don’t have to like the venue, I don’t have to like the target demographics, I don’t have to approve of who opens for him or visa versa. All I really have to do is feel the voice, and I’m good.
David’s new fave song:
I saw fireworks from the freeway
And behind closed eyes I cannot make them go away
‘Cause you were born on the fourth of july, freedom ring
Now something on the surface it stings
I said something on the surface
Well it kind of makes me nervous
Who says that you deserve this
And what kind of god would serve this?
We will cure this dirty old disease
If you’ve got the poison I’ve got the remedy
The remedy is the experience.
This is a dangerous liaison
I say the comedy is that it’s serious.
This is a strange enough new play on words
I say the tragedy is how you’re gonna spend
The rest of your nights with the light on
So shine the light on all of your friends
When it all amounts to nothing in the end.
I won’t worry my life away.
I won’t worry my life away.
I heard two men talking on the radio
In a cross fire kind of reality show
Uncovering the ways to plan the next big attack
They were counting down the ways to stab
The brother in the be right back after this
The unavoidable kiss, where the minty fresh
Death breath is sure to outlast this catastrophy
Dance with me, because if you’ve got the poison,
I’ve got the remedy
The remedy is the experience.
This is a dangerous liaison
I say the comedy is that it’s serious.
This is a strange enough new play on words
I say the tragedy is how you’re gonna spend
The rest of your nights with the light on
So shine the light on all of your friends
When it all amounts to nothing in the end.
I won’t worry my life away.
I won’t worry my life away.
When I fall in love
I take my time, there’s no need to hurry
When I’m making up my mind
You can turn off the sun, but I’m still going to shine
And I’ll tell you why
I won’t worry my life away
I won’t worry my life away
Cause I wont, I wont, I wont
Wont worry my life away
“All I really have to do is feel the voice, and I’m good.” Amen to that, Angelica!
And speaking of SLC, once they pulled the megaupload mp3 from mediafire, I was never able to find it. Any helpful hints, you all-seeing all-knowing ArchAngels?
This just posted on Snarkies…
“the internet is wrong!
um, i think. sorry for the confusion, folks, but do not be surprised if hitfix is wrong here and david does NOT perform ALTNOY. still team TMH, yo. ”
So he’s NOT singing ALTNOY now????
Transfering my post over here:
Happy Happy Birthday to SF! Hope you had a wonderful evening out with your children.
And a hearty Happy Birthday to Rascal! Wishing you a beautiful day, filled with all of your favorite things.
~~~~~
Snarkies showed a clip of another of David’s favorite songs by Jason Mraz, “The Remedy”. I always pull up the lyics when I know David likes a song. These lyrics are so David-appropriate, no?
“I won’t worry my life away.
I won’t worry my life away.
When I fall in love I take my time
There’s no need to hurry when I’m making up my mind
You can turn off the sun but I’m still gonna shine and I’ll tell you why
Because
The remedy is the experience.
…..”
Here’s the link to the song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f-DzVEO7fU
Apparently, the song was written for Jason Mraz’ best friend, who is a cancer survivor. You can see him in the audience, in this youtube clip.
TOfan- I have the SLC concert on my computer and can burn a copy for you but I made it all one track lasting for an hour and 17 minutes so you can’t skip to the next track.
You just have to listen to it from start to finish but that’s not a bad thing cause it’s almost like being there. Let me know if you want it.
Not singing ALTNOY eh? Oh the drama! Seems like old times.
joner #75. April 16, 2009 at 5:26 pm. “…but do not be surprised if hitfix is wrong here and david does NOT perform ALTNOY. still team TMH, yo. ”
Ooohhhh the speculations. David has been talking alot lately about how TMH has become a favorite for him. Didn’t I read during his tour that Jive was making a live video of THM? And wasn’t THM originally selected to be the 2nd single? And could David’s performance of it on Wednesday be it’s premiere? Awww, give me an inch, and I want the whole enchilada, lol.
Angelica #72 “…Wherever he goes, I’ll be there, waiting to hear the voice. I’ve never felt embarrassed at one of his concerts; I’ve bragged about how wonderful he is to anyone who would listen. Like I said, if they don’t like it, they can bite me. Listening to his live performance today from SLC, I felt his voice go right through me, enter my heart, course through my veins with every beat of it. Maybe other singers are able to do that for some of you, but I can’t get that from anyone but him. I don’t have to like the venue, I don’t have to like the target demographics, I don’t have to approve of who opens for him or visa versa. All I really have to do is feel the voice, and I’m good.”
That’s about the size of it for me. I’m staying focused or else I’ll lose my mind in this Disney madness. I don’t care how why or where David is scheduled to appear. I don’t care how uncool it is to have an ‘older crowd’ in the audience. My only concern is that he appears in venues close enough for me to reach and I’ll be there. I don’t have to stay for the whole show; I can get up and leave right after David finishes his set. After all, he is the only reason for me being there. Besides, the real revenue for an artist comes not from buying their CD, but from buying a ticket to their shows.
jackryan: I see that we almost had duplicate posts.
Uhm, wow, that would be TMH (insert embarrssed face right here).
I don’t know if this was posted. I just thought it was uh..interesting. He doesn’t watch this show???
rascal…Happy Birthday…
In reference to #51…who is that fellow? He is rather gorgeous and a wonderful musician. He can have an audience of all ages. His talent is fantastic and I believe that no one is making him go hand in hand with other tweeny favorites. They have David channeled all too common and career success hinges on being on Ellen or Jay Leno or Oprah and most of them don’t know a dang bit about him or his talent.
If David was in the UK, would he have better managers and producers?
Sometimes I think that it is all quite well and good on how Jive is handling his career choices and then I get tired of the path that they are taking and I say…rubbish Jive widen your gaze and don’t keep taking him down the only path that you know. I wonder sometimes if they know what to do with this amazing person and do what is right for him. Is it all guess work for them? Are they in over their heads? This guy is major special and you keep us on the edge of our seats wondering what you are going to have him do next. He can be kept ‘young’ if you want but treat him with the greatest of respect that parallels with his talent maybe now and not ten years down the road.
RASCAL…YOU DID THIS TO ME WHEN YOU POSTED THE VIDEO ON #51 AND I SEE THE MATURITY OF SUCH A YOUNG FELLOW WHO DOES NOT NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND KEEP PAYING HIS DUES BY PERFORMING FOR PEOPLE HIS AGE OR HALF HIS AGE AND KEEPING HIM ON SOME TIME CLOCK.
I TRY TO BE RESPECTFULLY PATIENT…BUT THEY ARE DRAGGING THEIR HEELS WITH DAVID. HE IS A PHENOMENA JIVE, KICK IT UP A NOTCH…
DON’T CALL 911 ANYONE I WILL GET BY…but look at rascal’s video on #51…that should be David’s stage. Don’t be annoyed with me I guess you now see how I really feel…
About the video #81..I posted as a joke..never for one minute did I EVER think David EVER watched iCarly!
Thanks so much, Angelica, but Abrra has graciously offered to send it to me … wow, love you guys! (And no blushing nec. about recording the entire show… sounds like heaven!)
Re TMH on AI: As I’ve mentioned before, I wasn’t a fan of TMH until the AOL sessions, and live, David rocks it. The only drawback to him knocking it out of the park on AI is that, if it’s the next single, and that single is the version on the CD … meh. (Sorry, David.) Unless they re-record it for radio AOL-style.
Happy Birthday our beloved Rascal.
David/Demi… I can’t do this to myself again. I’m thrilled to pieces to see Archudreamy as many as 6 or 7 times over the next several months. If that means having to “stomach” the whole Disney/Barney/Demi thing.. we’ll I’m going to have to learn to live with it…but I’ll never like, love or accept it. I’m a paying consumer.. I don’t have to.
However… I also questioned the etiquette of leaving after David is done.. I was told…there IS no etiquette involved…if I’m buying the ticket… it’s my choice how long to stay and when to go. So when David is done… I’ll walk quietly to the door.. (Straight for the bus… LOL).
From what I’m hearing.. A LOT David fans plan to do the same thing… so expect a mass exodus.
She’s thrilled to have her own headliner tour. If it weren’t for her special guest.. there’s no prayer for her selling out anything. Look at her record sales.
Now DAVID… he can sell out anything.. I’m SURE of it. People are itching for him…. it would take strategy…but it absolutely could be done.
HOWEVER..again.. the first CD won’t do it. But according to David .. the NEXT one…will be more mature. Now THAT…was when I did the happy dance.
So happy dances all around.
Love David, Love TDC, Love, Love, Love ..
…please realize I’m still dizzy over the KLDLG .. once my head stops spinning.. I may be more coherent. But THAT performance.. has my head in the clouds for days now.. I’ve crashed into the sky… it’s like Zero Gravity
oh… and how could I forget… Happy Belated Birthday to the stunning SF… and no… I don’t believe it was coincidence. David felt it was your birthday and just used the venue he was at as an excuse
“They say it’s your birthday, so happy birthday to you” na na na na na na…. HB rascal and SF, a belated one to you.
Can’t seem to decide on this whole Archulovato deal. All I know for sure is that I want to see him and I will see him… and so will a whole lot of Demi fans. Exposure FTW.
Brooklyndawn #64 “He’s 18. He’s adorable, and dreamy. It’s not an oddity that they want to capitalize on that.” “They” could not even begin to manufacture someone like David, let them make their $$$ . I’m here for the ride, and I’ll join all the other “of age” fans for a drink after David performs. Sorry Demi.
“Angelica #72 “Like I said, if they don’t like it, they can bite me. Listening to his live performance today from SLC, I felt his voice go right through me, enter my heart, course through my veins with every beat of it. Maybe other singers are able to do that for some of you, but I can’t get that from anyone but him.”…this is TRUE for me, well said.
Dawn#65, Yes, I think so too! hahahahaha!
Wasn’t it sweet of him?
Of course it was sweet of him… he has a heart so big… he actually needs MORE people to love. The line obviously starts behind you..so where ever YOU go.. I’m right behind you
Happy, Happy, birthday to both Rascal and Silverfox!
Mine is coming up rather soon and I plan on deducting a year, as I feel like I have reversed in age this past year. In actions, that is!
(Although a customer told me the other day that I look just like Katie Holmes “FROM THE SIDE”!! I love the disclaimer she used “from the side”!
SF ~ You are in tune with him. I am sure that song was really meant for his biggest cheerleader!
Smart girl! You have to log into facebook to see this video. haha!
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1123441372840&ref=nf
Soaking in all of the great comments. Good stuff!
Happy belated birthday to the ever foxy, Silverfox!
For the April birthdays….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_k8Q-jK9w
Dawn, betsy!! You both must be drinking heavily tonight! Truth be told..David wouldn’t know me if I stood in front of him and said BOO! He may think I look like some ole broad who he thought was stalking him a while back though!
I am one of his cheerleaders though, and it poses a huge dilemma for me about this D&D tour. I said I was not going to talk about it anymore though, but it’s a real issue for me and I would not want to dissuade anyone else my age from going. I think we just have to do what our hearts tell us, and right now my heart is telling me this tour is not meant for me. What a dirty trick to have a venue here in my city!! grrrrr!
SF… I strongly disagree with you. David remembers people. And you’ve met him too many times.. in the oddest of places for him not to remember you.
I caved on the tour.. and I think you may too. David is up first..
The venue is in your city for a reason. I won’t try to persuade you either… but I think David will
I am seriously considering biting the bullet, taking one for the team and seeing one of the late August shows in either VA, PA, or I think NJ/NY. Truthfully I don’t know what Demi sounds like, but I have two daughters that know who she is, and they love David, so I’d be the coolest mom, plus I’d finally get my chance at seeing him live.
I had hoped for another circumstance as well, but considering some of the dives I’ve been to, to see people I love, certainly I can do this for David as I think that he needs all of his fans support. The last thing I would want is for the story of this tour to be that his ‘mature’ fans deserted him.
Maybe if David started singing Desperate, I could get my 10 year son to tag along as that is the one he performs in his room when he thinks nobody’s listening. Yes, I am the mother of a burgeoning rock star, lol.
Silverfox~ check your email~~please…
Brooklyn…See? Now if I had some tweens or teens I could take to the D&D concert, it would make it so much easier for me.
OMG..if only he would sing Desperate! Look what he’s done with DLG! Just think what he would do, the angst, the passion, the pain, with Desperate (or Falling!).
Brooklyndawn #96, “Maybe if David started singing Desperate..”
SF #98,”OMG..if only he would sing Desperate!”
Desperate is my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE of ANYTHING David has sang. Love it. Love. it. Flove it. Too bad Jeff thinks David is to young for that song now. How long will I have to wait Lord before I get to hear him sing it live? How long???
Speaking of songs, did someone say David is singing Touch My Hand on AI next week? That would be excellent – I don’t like ALTNOY.
I guess I could count by blessings because if David were to sing Desperate live, I. would. simply. die. THUD. THE END!
marlie7, I think it’s all speculation at this point.
goboywonder: dang it – I was hoping it was more than a rumor.
Amy at SA has some inside information..but they aren’t back yet…so until they come back and spill it… we just have to speculate.
you don’t like ALTNOY.. shhh… David wrote that .
not one of my preferred either…bu TMH would be awesome..
he’d be jumping all over…archustomping…reaching out to the moshpit.. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
At this point.. David could sing Mary Had A Little Lamb.. and I’d fall over.
geez… I need more sleep .. LOL
Case and Point…
Reno Merry Go Round.
David doesn’t sing.
He gives us a couple mmmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmms…..yeah yeahhhhhhh
It’s 15 seconds… looping… 8 times. I loop the loop.
I’m pathetic. LOL
I actually like ALTNOY but I hope he gets to do and bouncy, jumpy, catchy song. The world already knows that boy (a term of endearment in my house)can SANG! Now they need to see that he has made significant progress with his stage performance and presence.
goboywonder..that is so silly isn’t it? That Jeff thinks the song Desperate would have been “better for David in a few years”, but he was old enough to travel half way around the world to take care of the business of supporting the family. Sorry to be so blunt..but it is what it is. Desperate is one of the better tracks on the CD. David’s vocals just soar and when I listen to it, my heart just breaks! He pierces my soul with his angst. David has felt the kind of pain he’s singing about when he thought he would never sing again. He had to be in so much pain, emotionally. Then given a second chance…no wonder he’s so happy all the time. How many people actually get a second chance at life? Singing was his life. May be that’s why Jeff doesn’t like it..it hit’s too close to home?
uh-oh..rambling again!
Oh, I don’t mean I don’t like it. But I don’t like it as a stellar performance number. It’s too slow and it is harder for him to work the stage with it.
Have, have to come out of lurkdom to wish Rascal –
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
Silverfox – Belated Happy Birthday Wishes – tons of hugs to you!
HI friends! I just love this site. Everyone’s articles, editorials and comments….so thoughful.
HG: Oh my, you took the thoughts out of my head: When I heard David sing “Heaven,” and when he declared that he was going to make us “understand the song,” I believed him, and I understood the song. In what way has Jive allowed David to help his audience understand his songs? ( AMEN SISTER)
I will go to the Tampa show with my daughter and focus on the blesing of getting to see David again, without having to pay for air fare- so I WILL pay top dollar to be close to the stage. I will NOT be embarrarsed to be there with tweens… never much cared what people thought anyway- I expect more fans will be there for David-( and I suspect there will be others like me there) and I suspect as someone suggested, Demi may be concered about being upstaged.
Say you are a kid, and your mom made your favorite desert.
(for the sake of this site, let’s say it is brownies!) You will do anything for a brownie. You will even eat all your carrots! (It is not brussel sprouts afer all!) So, I will eat my carrots and hope that someday, when I am grown up and can decide what I want, I get to eat the brownie first.
PS: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SF AND RASCAL
WOW SF… I don’t know if I’ve read anything so openly passionate from you like this.
I’m actually speechless right now.
On one hand… I’m so taken aback.. (only in the best of ways)
On the other hand.. I realize how tremendously painful for you if you’ve reached this point.
Wow… if you need to email me… or talk offline.. please feel free… I hate to see anyone going through this. I’ve had my need to phone a TDC’er.. and it helps alot.
((((((((((SF)))))))))))
Hi there joymus! Thank you!
It looks like David’s coming your way with Demi. Are you going to see him? Or is it a silly question?
TMH would definitely be a better song for AI as far as David showing what he can do to us…I mean, what he can do on stage! I guess we just have to wait for an something official coming from the Snarks’ VRS. How come WE don’t have one of those? A Very Reliable Source, I mean?
ALTNOY, TMH, YEDL, BARRIERS..
you all have NO idea how much angst I feel when it comes to this. I can find pros and cons in everything David.
I have my favorites, and I have my lesser favorites. There were some I skipped past from time to time.. but felt guilty..so now I listen to them anyway.
When I think about this.. and realize I’m saying out loud.. I begin to worry…because let’s face it.. if I hadn’t told you I skipped over a couple songs.. and then felt GUILTY about it.. you’d never know…and I’d still be a sane person.
Now I’m showing all my cards… and my ODD is clearly out of control.
Where’s happy and the intervention ?
Joymus! Glad to “see” you…. Let me know if you are coming up for the Tampa concert! We can try to get our seats together.
I really can’t pick a favorite. It changes all the time.
Sometimes I like Falling the most.. sometimes it’s WFM…sometimes it’s WFY.. sometimes I think I can’t hear Crush one more time or my ears will bleed…and then I just love hearing it the next day. Barriers was my favorite song the day I got the CD. YEDL.. blows me away with his background vocals. SOT.. that’s from David’s heart. TMH LIVE.. is electrifying. Zero Gravity… Don’t Let Go.. was bland on the CD.. but LIVE.. holy moly… he’s had months to perfect the emo…and he rawks it.
See.. it’s just too much.
But then I also love his covers.. Angels.. ATM.. Love Song.. I’m Yours.. ONE !
See.. this is what happens when I start to over think this.
TOO MUCH DAVID. Approaching David overload.. I must exit at the next stop before my train goes off the tracks… like in Speed.. remember that part !!!! That’s may… I’m tied to the tracks.. oh geez.. how could I forget Save The Day.
MINDFREEZE
I’m going from giddy with excitement to the edge of insanity.
#94 SF: I totally beg to differ- David would absolutely remember you… Young lady, you forget that I was there in Abq, NM when he gave you that little wave….yeah, jealous- we all saw that wave- and it was to you.
Oooh… THIS is interesting. Just got my livedaily from ticketmaster. This is the first time they’ve included anything on the tour.
“The megatour–which features last year’s “American Idol” runner-up, David Archuleta [ tickets ], in a support role–gets underway June 21 in Hartford, CT, and will travel to 47 cities during an outing that extends into late August. Tickets go on sale April 25.”
Ticketmaster does not reference Opener/Headliner/Special Guest.. the article is mostly about Demi…but I for one found THAT little spin quite interesting.
here’s a link to the whole article.
http://www.livedaily.com/news/18787.html
SF #106, “Desperate is one of the better tracks on the CD. David’s vocals just soar and when I listen to it, my heart just breaks! He pierces my soul with his angst. David has felt the kind of pain he’s singing about when he thought he would never sing again. He had to be in so much pain, emotionally. Then given a second chance…” ITA
I often think that adults don’t realize that the things children/young people experience are just as real, just as painful, and just as valid to them. Yes David is young, but he knows what it’s like to lose something soo very dear to him and then, like you said, to get another chance. That is why the music spills out of David so freely and unexpectedly. I think that is why even when he sings Happy Birthday to a group of strangers, it’s like he’s at Carnegie Hall as YJ said.
I love music. I love to sing. I grew up with a dad that at one time sang with Sam Cooke. But as much as I protest to God, I never learned play an instrument or SING, sing. Some of my brothers and sisters can SANG and play by ear. I probably could been better but I was so shy and was never really encouraged. But I often said that if I could sing, really SING, people would have to pay me to shut up. So yeah, I totally get where David is coming from.
Side note: I would also like to say that Jeff has received a lot of flack about managing and steering David with his music. Although David was extremely talented, he was and remains very shy. I am happy that his dad helped him to get to the point of singing in front of people. Who knows what would have happened had I had that kind of support.
I know, kind of rambly.
I’ve heard the comments about Jeff pushing David to sing, but I’ve never heard anything from David other than “they couldn’t shut me up.” His sister pounded on his bedroom door for him to stop singing while she was trying to sleep. He sang in the back yard. He sang in his room.
I don’t know what Jeff did all that time. Support, yes, the whole family seems to have supported what David wanted to do. But I don’t think David ever needed to be pushed to sing except after his voice problems when he had trouble getting through a whole song.
goboywonder – you sound like you have a very musical family. And maybe you are like David and love to sing, but just don’t know how good you really are
juliebug . April 16, 2009 at 8:55 pm . #91
I want to be David’s SPOON! yummy!
Abrra
LOL @ Abrra .. only you’d think of that. I won’t be corrupted tonight.. so you behave .. LOL.
Actually I’m getting ready to head off to bed soon. One more day this week.. and tomorrow is supposed to be really nice.. Saturday even NICER…but I have to babysit 8(
Abrra – Me too! And I LOVE it when he gets so tickled with something and he just throws his head back and just laughs with such abandon. (sigh)
marlie #118, this was at the very begining when they first realize David has a special gift, I guess shortly after the Les Miserale (sp?) thing. I read he entered into a church competition and just before going on he was afraid and started crying, but he was encouraged to go on and he won.
marlie #118, I think at one time I could have been good. Took voice lessions in college but didn’t have any clue what to do and alas, it’s gone.
Dawn..are you OK? I’m OK. Are you OK? Desperate just makes me sound desperate. But I’m OK, really.
Rae..OK, I believe it could really be true, David waved to me and I didn’t just imagine it! Thank you!
goboywonder..you are right and I tend to forget the fact that we owe a debt of gratitude to David’s parents for encouraging and sacrificing much to help David achieve his dreams. I shudder when I think they may not have been supportive of David’s wish to be a singer. But in reality, they would have had to have been deaf not to have realized their son had tremendous potential even at 6 years old. Then when David was 11 or 12, David’s dream became their dream as well. They had no choice..just as we have no choice..it’s destiny. We were all destined to be on this journey with David.
I just can’t stop rambling, can I? Anyway, it’s 9:30 in Utah, so in case David is there, this is for him…
Dear Lord,
Please take care of David. Watch over him, protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no to those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him UNCONDITIONALLY as we, his Archangels do. Separate David from those who have agendas other than for his well being. Give him rest when he’s weary. Give him stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms during this time on his journey. Keep David and HIS VOICE healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
Though we may be unworthy, we humbly pray.
Amen.
Sweet dreams, David! Be safe & secure in our love & support always. We love you madly, and so happy you are home (in the USA) even if just for a few days! Contigo siempre, con amor!
Should I post here? Or over there? It’s funny…there are two threads going simultaneously
dawn65 are you posting here or there? Not sure where to go.
And one would think having gone to and finished college, I would know how to spell Les Miserle (sp?) and lessons. I am a terrible spell, mental block from all those paddles with the ruler for misspelled words in elementary school.
I’m all over the place djafan .. LOL.
Is there someplace I should be ?
I’m okay SF… just tired.. and anxious. It’s hard to be excited, but it’s not.
I’m randomly rambling.
lol… I just saw your post at Snarky’s too… yes, your all over the place. I just found it funny that you posted in two threads minutes apart from each other.
It’s hard to be excited, but it’s not.
I have butterfly’s with anticipation of the AI appearance. Can’t stop thinking about it. The Archulovato is to distant for me right now. I just watched J.Hudson and Miley on AI. Miley, it’s embarrasing. J.Hudson seemed to be talking the song. I want David to rest, be healthy and blow everybody away.
What would happen if he sang ZG? He added that line to Stand By Me which I hear AI had said not to. Would they fire him? I bet there would be a line trying to grab him. I know I’m dreaming. But boy I’d love it.
Did you have it on DVR or something ? I ran the DVR last night just to see if they mentioned David. And Miley’s reception to the climb was a bit.. “subdued” .. don’t ya think ?
Now I said I was going to stay in the other thread. My head is spinning.
YES.. I did post at Snarkys…which I don’t do often…but it was warranted. I only post here.. at Snarky’s ONCE in a blue moon….and the official DA.com.
Beyond that.. I’ll go after a bad reviewer from time to time.. and sometimes my occassional blurb on YTube…just because it’s another avenue to release some emo.
Have I done enough random rambling tonight ?
I swear I’m not on anything .. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Happiest of Birfdays! –> {{ Silverfox | Rascal }}
And nothing like that suh-buh-LIME Cleveland Happy Birthday as your little treat. I hope you both had a beautiful birthday.
ggdoorsfan… Bravo on that post (way up there somewhere…lol) This whole thread is great. Not too much time to linger so I know I’m missing some good stuff. But even in a hurry… great stuff.
I have always felt David’s story is a journey that would unfold before my eyes and unfolding it is. I accept and support David (We all do, I know) and am apparently not ever inclined to stress or wring my hands over the various *iss-yews* that have been raised. I feel it’s all just pieces of a glorious puzzle unfolding. I don’t have much to add that I haven’t said already (like a broken record …”Trust The Archulator”). I believe ggdoorsfan covered it for me absolutely beautifully. (#22)
Oh, and Abrra, check your email. Your Merry Go Round has been served, Madame.
ps, goboywonder, here, this is for you.
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I have been a very absent lurker but wanted to jump in. THANK YOU for all the various opinions at the start of this post. I appreciate and respect them all. Happy Birthday, Rascal! Happy – Love your points – THE VOICE will soar!
#22 ggdoorsfan – Loved and agreed with everything you wrote. I have a few more minor points to make. I’m friends with several savvy concert goers and when I mentioned David was opening for Demi the response was – “This will not be the first time that the opening act should be the headliner in a concert or should have equal billing.” Two years ago Maroon 5 opened for John Mayer and they did a FULL set of approximately 15 or more songs. Could be that David will do the same here. (I’m not saying the Maroon 5 is better than John Mayer – just pointing out that they were nearly equally popular at the time) Note that they have David listed as “Special Guest” with high visiblity on the concert posters. If they were going to treat him as a minor opening act, they would not give him so much poster space – many openers get no space or a tiny mention and certianly NOT a picture on the poster. Sometimes it does not make sense but it is all about exposure and financing. The Disney machine has a lot more money to sink into a concert tour than David’s camp at this time.
Other thoughts I have on the whole Disney experience. I know without a doubt that David is going to evolve into a well respected artist and will endure a long and healthy career in the industry and I am fully prepared to wait it out. For now the Disney associations don’t bother me becuase its almost like giving him a chance to develop a career and still be a kid. The mother in me worries that he’s missing too much of his youth and these kinds of associations give him the chance to be around people his age and maybe experience some of the things that he’s missing back home. He has mentioned on several ocassions that he likes doing things like iCarly, etc. because he gets to be with kids his age. Even crazier – Disney has these Disney summer games and I thought it would be great for David to be there this summer. It has nothing to do with exposure – it would just be a few days of FUN and I want that for him. I want him to establish relationships and grow more comfortable in the industry. I have a child who is pretty into Disney and I have to say that if I could have picked one of the Disney girls for David to tour with, it would be Demi. She seems real, sweet, wholesome and has great stage presence and I’d take her singing over some of the others any day. If you haven’t already, check out her appearance on Ellen, vocally she’s not in David’s league but holy cow on the stage presence. I really think that they could learn a lot from eachother on tour.
I do beleive that he will draw the line here and regulate it to a Disney association. I can’t ever see him with his own Disney show for example.
djafan: I’m very psyched about David’s appearance on AI next week, too. I just want the people who haven’t watched him grow get the shock of their lives. That’s why I want him to sing something that allows him to utilize the stage more. I’d love it to be ZG (just watched a couple of versions of it – love it!) but unless he decides to buck the system last minute, I suspect we won’t see it.
djafan and marlie7 – I dream of a Zero Gravity performance as well but they announced ALTNOY so I’m not getting my hopes up. I’m so excited for this appearance. So many of the returning Idols seem to not have grown much since they were on the show, we all know that is not the case with David and its only been a year. I can’t wait for all the world to see. I’m pumping myself up for ALTNOY though…it is so different from anything he sang on the show – it will be a great moment for him.
BUT, I LOVE ALTNOY! and I would have love to see it on AI. I think it would give it a boost that it needed. I so wanted that song to be a success and I feel it was because of JIVE and their refusal to really promote it, that the song didn’t take off like it should have. I don’t trust JIVE 100%. They are a business, looking for the best way to make the most money with the least going out. But, I guess what really makes me sad is that people are claiming that the song is a flop, and, I never wanted anything dealing with David to be considered a flop. But, as a previous post claimed- everything David touches isn’t going to be gold.
There will be no Demi/David concert near me, but, I will be going to the Real soccer game to see David perform. And, great news, my sister, who couldn’t stand the mention of David Archuleta, (my fault, my intense ODD turned her away)has agreed to go with me.
There are so many wonderful posts and I am enjoying reading them all. Thanks!
Happy Birthday to Silverfox and Rascal hope you had a wonderful day!
ALTNOY a flop? I thought i just saw something about it climbing the charts. I could have sworn that it was No. 19 on a Billboard chart. These things take time. The radio stations in my area just started to play it.
beebee #130. April 17, 2009 at 12:07am.
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Thanks bb for helping a sistah out. I can see the letter in my head put they jist dont come out the same way on paper,lol. But of course, I could have googled it as I almost always do…lazy journalism. My bad.
Hmmm…I’m not sure what I thought I saw. I just checked out the Billboards for myself and ALTNOY peaked at 51 and it is currently at 71.
marlie7 . April 17, 2009 at 12:23 am .
I’m very psyched about David’s appearance on AI next week, too. I just want the people who haven’t watched him grow get the shock of their lives. That’s why I want him to sing something that allows him to utilize the stage more. I’d love it to be ZG (just watched a couple of versions of it – love it!) but unless he decides to buck the system last minute
I watched ronalds video of the before an after, what I wouldn’t give for him to do ZG on AI. What would happen if he bucked the system? Curious..
ALTNOY is a big mistake. It’s failing because it’s trite musically–and therefore boring–not because it’s not getting plugged sufficiently. The song poorly showcases his voice besides. This, on top of opening for Disney’s nobody has been a huge disappointment. The tour splits his fanbase down the middle. Most fans over 20 wouldn’t be caught dead at one of those venues. So his base gets expanded with 11yr.olds–but he loses the college crowd. Lousy tradeoff.
I’ve been thinking David would be embarrassed if his fans left the concert after his set. Especially if it is obvious and it is talked about. It makes the decision to go questionable.
I may get the tomato toss, but I have to think about WWDD? My problem is, I can’t NOT go. I am pretty sure I will sit through the whole thing. GAH!!!
Hey peoples… how about joining us at the previous thread…I’m getting dizzy going back and forth. dawn65, emmiegirl, Abrra and others are over there…if you don’t mind
Ok…change of plans…new post by marlie7… we’re heading over there…whew.
Boost or Bust? I do respect a lot of opinions made on this topic, I wanted to keep my own personal one for myself. Only one three words in response to the question…”Trust the Archuleta”, in time We will find the right answer. But, for now I am here to support David in which way I can. I remain to believe in an unconditional love. Keep up the good work David!