Being Balladeer
It's Time to Stake the Claim
It’s hard not to feel protective or defensive of an artist about whom you feel so passionate. It’s also hard not to make comparisons, almost always a misguided proposition. That’s why when Adam Lambert appeared on the cover of Entertainment Weekly toward the end of the season eight American Idol competition as the crown certain, I couldn’t help but feel a little tweaked that David hadn’t gotten similar press love when he was in precisely the same position. But then again, I quickly told myself, EW never liked David. Or, more accurately, never got David.
Neither do I put much credence in the opinions of that publication anyway; the editorial staff reminds me of a gaggle of bitter queens and their fag hags, the kids from high school who got chorus parts in the school musicals and then proceeded to snark and snipe from the wings about those with real talent and a passion for hard work. David was never marginal enough for these wannabes. He was too clean, too mainstream, too morally grounded, too freaking nice. EW proclaimed Adam to be a “true original — and just what the show needed.” What a bunch of malarkey. Where I come from, Adam is about as original as every third twentysomething walking down the streets of the East Village or Williamsburg. Since when does guyliner make you original? No, Adam got EW love because he was way more their type: flamboyant, iconoclastic, insecure, and over-the-top.
But then came the Rolling Stone cover, at a point when Adam was officially #2 — the same role, again, that David was in a year ago. Why the press love for Adam? Or, more to the point, why the absence of same for David? I think tagging Adam’s not-so revelatory acknowledgment of his sexuality as the basis for the attention is a little too facile. It is a story (I guess), an easy one anyway, one that still — for perhaps just a few more cultural minutes, at any rate — retains the faintest wisp of something scandalous or at least unconventional, but it does not on its own account for the high profiling.
No, I put it down to identity entertainment. Just as all the debates over identity politics during the long presidential election gave us insight into the difference between using personal attributes (race, religion, history) as a primary measure for competence rather than performance and policy, so too it is easier, for both press and public alike, to assess and embrace an entertainer based on similarly dubious measures. Familiar models outpace true originals in almost every case. Far from being original, Lambert’s glam-rock goth boy persona trods a well-worn path, blazed decades ago by the likes of David Bowie, Ozzy Osborne, Pete Burns and Boy George, among others.
The David Archuleta persona does not fit into any neat, familiar models. There are highly original, even revolutionary aspects to his persona, but they are deep rather than broad. Indeed they are unspectacular, even as they are rare and even transcendent. David’s generosity of spirit, his remarkable compassion, his gentle nature staked with a steel spine — these unusual qualities don’t lend themselves to shortcut symbols or iconic illustration. David, to put it simply, is not a type.
But neither, I would argue, has David given the press or the public sufficient reason, so far, to connect him with any of the more performance-related attributes on which he should be building his renown. As he undertakes writing and reconnaissance for his new album, I pray that David has the wisdom to make something of a return to his roots, and offer up at a least a few pieces that will help to seed the market with the one attribute by which he will inevitably come to be known and revered. Namely: The Voice.
On one level, David’s first album was an obvious attempt to answer a chorus of critics whose expectations of him as the boy balladeer seemed already entrenched. But beat-based pop music doesn’t test the mettle of vocal prowess, nor does it reveal true vocal sophistication. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. The appeal of beat-based pop music lies in other dimensions. But when it comes to the expressive sophistication of the human voice alone, nothing offers as suitable a setting as the ballad. For all their successes in up-tempo numbers, great one-for-the-ages voices like Ella, Frank, and Barbra were never more revered than for their work on ballads.
By being balladeer, David solves two critical issues in the trajectory of his career. First, it provides a shortcut-hungry media with a tag, a category, a bucket for the David Archuleta brand. Like anything else, categories have their pluses and minuses. At one extreme, without any way at all to identify an artist, they simply won’t be covered, or will be covered in too vague a manner to seed memorability or even interest. At the other extreme is the risk of being pigeonholed. My sense at this point is that David’s first album went too far in the anti-ballad direction, which resulted in proof that he could successfully take on other categories, but failed to illuminate what makes him so uniquely gifted and powerful in the first place. And second, being balladeer will capture new fans in broader demographics by bringing the The Voice in all its glory to the market: the enormous subtlety of phrasing, the sleek charcoal tone, the hunger and yearning that opens caverns of emotion. In a phrase, David needs to make us cry.
Even if he does get pigeonholed to a certain degree, I’m left wondering what is so god-awful about that. Who is the contemporary male singer who owns the ballad? Is there anyone? Not only is David the Balladeer an opportunity for strong identity, it is a thrilling prospect for sublime heart connections all over the world. Then, David can finally be recognized for what is truly his, and which no one else can conceivably match.
– Rascal



Yes Rascal, Bravo!
David OWNES the ballad and our hearts! He is clearly the one to transform and transend what is considered cool, current, hip,edgy and radical. Sometimes, just being gracious, kind, handsome, and a hell of a singer by the way, is all that is needed to wake people up.
Gosh, these are great times to be alive!
RASCAL -- exactly!
I have often wondered why in the US entertainment industry or in the AI S7 stratosphere to be specific, being a balladeer is equated to being boring, unoriginal and un-Idol.
When did it start that being able to whip out melodies and harmonies that are un-Boom-Boom-Pow means a diminished talent?
But then again, why compare the media treatment of DA with that of AL? I dare say that there are issues outside entertainment and the arts that are being advanced by such media practitioners. And am glad that DA was never a subject of such machinations.
David may be vanilla to some. But I derive much pleasure in that knowledge. Cos flavorings come and go. Vanilla, the 2nd most expensive spice after saffron is here to stay.
Vanilla may be basic and may be lacking in adornment. But if you have the likes of David, who needs embellishment?
I’ll take ny vanilla and the balladeer anytime over any boom-boom-pow
Rascal, this is like a lightning of clarity in an otherwise muddled fanbase.
How excited (and rightfully so) we get about the latest developments in David’s career, or the latest release, but we often think in conventional terms (i.e. he needs a pop song, he needs a dance song to “break out” in his career), when actually we’re forgetting what it is about David that got us so dang invested in the first place.
In a phrase, David needs to make us cry.
What a simple, clear way to communicate what we need right now!
(Lightning!
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I don’t know if this was posted yet, but this is 9.5 minutes of YouTube hilarity that is guaranteed to make any David fan grin from ear to ear. Prepare yourself to be made happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip7BvlR_zok
HEAR….HEAR!
I actually had to google that expression to find out if it was “Here..Here” or “Hear..Hear” and this is what I got:
The correct term is, “hear, hear!” It is an abbreviation for “hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!”
Kind of ironic, huh?
Love this post Rascal!
Wow, this makes so much sense to me and explains alot that I have been trying to figure out. David gets no radio play in my area, and I can’t figure out why- but maybe his percieved lack of identity entertainment plays into it?
“No, I put it down to identity entertainment. Just as all the debates over identity politics during the long presidential election gave us insight into the difference between using personal attributes (race, religion, history) as a primary measure for competence rather than performance and policy, so too it is easier, for both press and public alike, to assess and embrace an entertainer based on similarly dubious measures. Familiar models outpace true originals in almost every case”
Now off to work.
Well, first -- boy have we missed you! A little clarity amidst all our teeth-grinding is just what was needed.
Upon my first reading of this article I thought, “Oh, my god, of course!” How could we have wandered so far from what made us fall in love with David in the first place -- his ability to croon us into a weeping puddle with that VOICE? Not that he shouldn’t pursue his pop music path, and I wouldn’t want to have missed Zero Gravity. But I still can cry when I watch him sing Love Me Tender in that Idol performance.
You opened my eyes and, really, gave me a bit of a shake. I think we sometimes see the fans longing for David to do exactly what you said -- sing us a beautiful ballad. We are waiting now for a video of David singing an a capella version of Prayer of the Children.
When there is something to say, Rascal, nobody says it better
Rascal, Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us again — only you can make the “inside the box” thinking so original and fresh.
I always felt there is a disconnect between the fans’ enthusiasm and passion about him and the larger world/music industry/radio DJ’s obliviousness to him. For me you just put your finger on the puzzle — it’s because of the lack of tag or category for them to relate to him. Perhaps going the balladeer route is indeed the easiest way to make a true breakout star out of him. But I wonder if that’s what he desires for himself? We all saw the death stare he gave the Snarky girls when Michale Buble’s name was mentioned. Having read your post carefully, I really appreciated your thinking on this, but I still prefer the vision by HG: Ambassador of pop creating “world sound infused with pop and soul”. That day may not come soon, but I am willing to wait.
I do love what you said about the essence of what he needs to do (and what he has done so well): he needs to make us cry! But don’t you think he can make us cry singing just about anything. Heck, I cried when I heard him sing Happy Birthday!
Lord Have Mercy it’s Rascal!
Well said, as usual. Somebody Out There is a perfect example, in my opinion anyway, of a more “ballad-type” of song that highlights David’s superb vocals. When I played it for my husband, he said “it’s too mature for him” to which I replied “but Crush is too young right?” to which he replied “yep.” I think my hubby is a perfect example of the “general public” in this case, because his David comments fall in line with many others I have spoken to over this past year. How can this young man win? Too young, too old, too nice, too this, too that.
Some people will never be moved by or even impressed with David’s voice, just as I will never be moved by the hair bands that my hubby likes. And some people’s hearts are closed, or just haven’t lived long enough/had enough life experience to feel what we feel. Singing ability is not required in today’s music scene, and the young ones are not impressed by vocal talent. But real talent does stand the test of time, and I feel it in my bones that one day David will be considered “one of the greats.” This will not happen by touring with Demi, or putting out dance tracks, but as he ages these “younger demographic” things will naturally fade away.
David’s album did what it needed to do, and I belive he will find his niche, and it will be The VOICE that carries him throughout the years.
“Who is the contemporary male singer who owns the ballad?”
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Rascal, for asking this question. I raised this issue on my blog about whether or not “Inspirational David” can make a comeback:
http://souldavid.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/inspirational-david-can-he-make-a-comeback/
When you also ask what is so “godawful” about David being pigeonholed as a “ballad boy,” I’m going to blame American Idol for that. Not the show per se (you know my views on AI and my perception of how David was treated) but the structure of it.
In the continuous competition that the show has spawned -- in particular, the “Battle of the Davids” as one example -- the audience (and media) got caught up in David being “boring” compared to Cook’s showy performances as an aspiring rock artist (no, IMO, he’s not a rock artist yet). What’s boring about singing beautifully? Nothing, unless you’re in a competition and unless you’re on a reality TV show.
Sadly, because the show created such negativity around David being a “ballad boy,” his debut album attempted to steer him away from that. I also think, in our contemporary music setting, a “ballad boy” is considered “schmaltzy.” And David is much deeper than some kind of sentimental sap.
The thing is, Rascal, since you brought up the Adam Lambert example, Adam Lambert made for great TV. And the media folk who embraced him are also the same folks who grew up on the David Bowies and Mick Jaggers; they were the ones climaxing at the prospect of this particular spectacle. They love the spectacle, more than anything, and David is far more stripped down and more subdued for them to really appreciate his gifts.
I’d be pretty content with a ballad-heavy album, which can have a few dance tracks on the side, the kind that can go to Top 40 radio, as long as the ballads got air play and exposure as well. I mean, I’m loving ZG, but I’m starving right now for any video of the standing-ovation-inducing performance of David singing “Imagine” on piano.
Of course, when it comes to David returning to his “roots,” I personally think that means David returning to soul music since David apparently (from what I’ve heard) toned down the soul to appeal to a more mainstream audience on American Idol (so I have a question about whether inspirational ballads represent his “roots” more -- it’s mostly what he’s known for).
Still, from some of his interviews, David definitely sounds like he will return to the ballad: a Christmas album is definitely a start! If he can strike a balance between the acoustic sound he wants and the danceable tracks his label wants, we may get a happy medium. Unfortunately, there’s the question of whether or not Jive is the appropriate label to work with The Voice since they haven’t indicated any genuine interest in vocal skills.
Good morning everyone!
And thanks TOfan, SF, Happy, and others who commented favorably on my video!
Welcome, back, Rascal, you have been missed!
You’re so right, if anyone can reinvent the ballad and make it relevant again on Top 40, it’s David. (I’m one of the bunch who didn’t “fall” for David because of a ballad, though — it was Shop Around that hooked me big time.)
And YJfanofdavid “But don’t you think he can make us cry singing just about anything. Heck, I cried when I heard him sing Happy Birthday!” … so true. Even Desperate has brought me to tears, the emotion is so strong through the rock arrangement.
I often wonder about the role of vocal talent in music today. Autotune rules, so it’s pushed real talent to the sidelines. Is there a place for it? David will make it so!
Rascal, I sat nodding and muttering the occasional, “yeah” as I read your post. (It’s been too long between reads.) Thank you for finding a way to say what so many of us feel.
That’s just it, TOfan. Vocal talent is completely marginalized! Again, take the example of American Idol (who, this time, I won’t blame for its demise in current music; indeed, I would argue that AI offered the return of the vocalist as real talent -- they’ve showcased some amazing singers over the course of the show, David among them of course, but especially others like Mellinda Doolittle or David’s idol Tamyra Gray, just to name a few).
If I blame AI for anything, it’s that it didn’t understand the musicality of their own spectacle. Which is, curiously, why I adore their other show this summer -- “So, You Think You Can Dance?” -- a show that, IMO, has a rather unfortunate name and indicates that they think dancing is yet another entertaining spectacle, but it reveres the dance form. Seriously, any reality TV show that can introduce to mainstream audiences such concepts as pas de deux, among many dance styles, is one that puts the emphasis on dance as real skill and talent.
When the SYTYCD contestants get to work with the Mia Michaels and the Debbie Allens, what do AI contestants get? When have they ever been “mentored” by real professional vocal coaches and music arrangers?
Anyway, if the goal is to find a “pop star,” then I guess vocal skills don’t matter much in an age of the “autotune,” as you put it, Tofan.
Pop stars with vocal skills? Hmmmm….
Pop quiz:
How many of today’s “pop stars” can you think of that have the vocal talent (or the guts) to get up in front of an audience and sing acapella and sound so extraordinary without any embellishments?
I think they need a category for that one. David would be quite lonely.
Thank You Rascal for reminding us so eloquently just what made David so special to us in the first place. It’s not just that he can sing ballads, it’s really all about his vocal sophistication and ability to connect to the audience with those musical choices.
Like HG, I voiced a similar comment to a post on her SoulDavid blog -- Inspirational David. David’s acclaim as a balladeer grew on AI, however on finale night -- America chose style (showmanship) over substance(true vocal ability).
The problem with David is that he may be trying to create a whole new category that does not exist as yet for him. He sings ballads really , reallly, well and has widened his repetoire to include mid and uptempo songs. From past reports he also does mean gospel renditions,mentioned one time that the relationship with the label was too new for them to consider releasing an inspirational album -- Amazing Grace, Be Still My Soul -- anyone? Also, who can forget his recent Como La Flor or Contigo La Distancia?
So it begs the question -- just what is “soulful pop” to David? Is it a combination of John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Sara Bareilles, Natasha Bedingfield? IMHO -- their type of pop while pleasing to the ear,is not entirely soulful.
Just as we are confused and concerned about where in the music landscape David fits comfortably, his record label might be just as well. He has recently mentioned in interviews that it is sometimes difficult for them to be on the same page as him with regard to the direction of the new album. What they ultimately decide together remains to be seen. Perhaps like the Christmas Album -- he may have to finance and produce other fan-requested or musical experimentation albums on the side for his own gratification. I consider the Disneys and Demi Lovatos as seed money for these future projects -- lol!
David may just be too darn talented for his own good to ever categorize successfully.
So true Rascal.
I have to admit I was also a little irked when I found out Adam was going to be on the RS cover. But now I see that he made it there based on hype and image. That will sell for the current news cycle.
David is too subtle for that, it’s not about the celebrity it’s about the music.
With David it’s like diving into the calm, deep ocean and with all those other attention seeking celebrity/musicians it’s like kids splashing around in the shallow end.
This is a random example but on Snarky’s they put up the Perez post about A Thousand Miles.
I find it interesting that on a website like Perez, that is notorious for being nasty and drawing inappropriate things on people’s faces, it just said we love this cover he did, check it out. No nasty drawings or smart ass comments.
It’s because David makes it about his music and not his image.
I just hope that David goes with his gut on the next album. Although he may have to appease the label with some dance groove tracks, he should fight for those songs that let him showcase the nuance and beauty of his voice.
Joymus, is it really about confusion? Hmmmm, now you’ve got me thinking.
I do think David will eventually emerge with some kind of soulful pop (perhaps expanding into a world fusion sound to integrate these styles). I really think what he likes about the Jason Mrazs, Natasha Bedingfields, and Sara Bareilles is their simple, acoustic, non-embellished sound. They create really catchy tunes without the electronic accompaniments that overproduce a song.
That’s what I hear from David when he reveres these artists. Because when he sings -- and when I say “sing” I do mean saaaaang -- I hear less the influence of these artists because none of them sound like David; also, that’s where the creative embellishments come in. David’s really good at vocal improvisation, which is what recalls for me that “Soul David” quality I so admire.
In this regard, Rascal, you’re right: a ballad is the type of song that can really highlight The Voice in all its exceptional beauty. The ballad is where you will get the money notes.
Overall, my concern is less with which label David eventually works for and more about if said label is willing to hook him up with the right producer. More than music genre, David needs the right producer to create and arrange for The Voice.
Using the analogy of Billie Holiday and Count Basie, when is David going to find his Count Basie?
HG — excellent point about Count Basie. I have long anticipated (and alluded to in my writing once or twice) the day when David would hook up with a producer who really gets him; one who not only knows what kind of material and arrangements make his unique gifts truly shine, but who can extract from him in the studio what he is capable of delivering live onstage.
#18 -- David Foster
Period.
Only Rascal could bring me out of hiding.
Yes, yes, yes and yes. I think ever since I heard the rustlings of the next CD being “dance groove” I’ve fallen into the dismal feeling of defeat.
I try so hard to understand ~ but I don’t I guess.
David CAN sing anything, that’s a given ~ I am quite confident he can jump from genre to genre and do just fine. But will FINE make it?
I don’t understand why so much effort is being put forward to break an image that doesn’t need to be broken?
His first CD ~ showcased the powerful vocals perhaps twice ~
I’m going to hang to your post ~ because it’s perfect.
David Foster. Hmmmm… Rascal, would you agree David Foster is David’s potential Count Basie?
I’m going to have to check back in later to continue this conversation as I now need to head to an appointment.
But, I’m intrigued about where this discussion is headed!
Hey, Dawn! Glad to see you delurking.
Until next time!
FYI, David will be featured in tomorrow’s edition of The Strait Times newspaper!
Here’s a preview!
http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/jackryan1/?action=view¤t=zsg1m.jpg
Also, have uploaded more pix from the CUN affair -- sigh…still no vids
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b168764a61c78fdf67cd7f7bd65f7eefde88a34681c1f0755be6ba49b5870170
Rascal, thanks once more for your eloquent insight.
It is interesting that, when I checked the iTunes Pop 100 just now, “A Thousand Miles” (#42) is placing higher than “Zero Gravity” (#51).
#23 -- olemr2001 -- I think that’s because Eonline and Perez Hilton have both been raving about David’s cover of the song.
The power of the BUZZZZZZZZZZ…
Sorry, Joner, still think David Foster’s too fusty
for David. Foster himself has said as much in interviews. He needs this generation’s Quincy Jones, imo.
And on a random aside that I am too excited not to share, a friend sent me an email this morning with the following “news”:
“If you check http://www.facebook.com/l/;http://www.perezhilton.com this morning, David Archuleta has a new single out on iTunes -- studio version of Vanessa Carlton’s “1,000 Miles” -- you can listen to it on Perez Hilton’s blog (nice!). He’s been covering it for a while now -- I guess he’s just now released the single?”
This friend knows I’m a David fan but not … well, you know …
You could probably hear me squeeing for A Thousand Miles …
Re-posting this from previous thread:
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Now I remember what am supposed to post this week — A friend of mine is going to the US next month.
She intends to attend a number of DA’s concerts, namely (1) San Jose, (2) Portland, (3) Seattle, (4) Sacramento & (5) LA.
No, no, no… she is NOT THAT into David LOL!
Anw, she would really like to meet TDC Archies
She lurks here and enjoys our banter. She is just intimidated to post which (me looking at the sky!) of course drives me nuts! Right?!?
So if anyone here will go to any of these concert venues, would appreciate it if you guys could meet with her? Let me know?
SF, Knotliser, Dawn, Abrra, Liz, Marlie, Happy -- are you attending any of the above mentioned venues?
Loooong time lurker here that has to come out because of the standing O that this post incited. I often agree with and relate to the posts that i read here to the inexplicable extent that I could see my own thoughts written by people that i do not even know. However, this post in some way has captured and so eloquently expressed the very thoughts that have been swimming around in my mind for the past few weeks, with the news of a second album. Revisiting the CD versions of David’s music to reconnect myself to the “studio” artist, with the intent of listening to him as though I were an as yet untapped fan, trying to remain objective as to why the music never quite “caught on” with the general audience, i found myself gravitating toward the ballads and contemplating why these were not released/introduced to an adult contemporary vein.
Admittedly, prior to discovering David, firstly during his Imagine performance, but then really latching on during his amazing comeback performance, which for me, revealed not only his fighting spirit but amazing vocal prowess, of The Long and Winding Road, I was a diehard Josh Groban fan. His youth, vocal ability, humble spirit, demeanor…..i found to be unmatched in the musical world….that was, until Mr. Archuleta emerged. I was elated to hear David’s rendition of When You Say You Love Me during the AI tour and absolutely was astounded at what he did with the song, adding elements to it that made it somehow fresh, even though the original had only been out for a relatively short time. He had big shoes to fill in my opinion, taking on THE young adult contemporary artist of the moment; I saw for David much success in this particular market.
While i do understand the approach that Davids’ team decided on with releasing music that would appeal to today’s young listeners, coupled with his desire to frame himself as a pop artist, I somehow felt, that was not quite “it” for him. I felt as though it only had begun to tap into the musicality that David embodies. I for one, am waiting for the second CD with baited breath, praying that he is able to reconnect with the type of music that inspired moms of teens, grandmas of young ones, to stand up and take notice that this was no ordinary young man, but truly an extraordinary talent that could virtually take the industry by storm.
Thank you for this wonderful site that i find myself gravitating towards daily to read the most insightful, thoughtful and eloquent writings on all things David!
I’m not sure David Foster is right for David, either. And when I agreed with Rascal about the ballads, I do not want to imply that I think that is ALL David should do. But I think he needs to find the balance, as someone said above, between the soulful-or-acoustic pop and the ballad. I would be very unhappy if someone (even David) tried to cast him in the Josh Groban mold -- David is more versatile, has more musical personality, for want of a better way to express this.
But like Dawn65, I agree there there is something wrong in throwing David into the dance-mix genre, too. Sure, ZG is terrific, fun, interesting, but it is so because it is unlike what we have seen David do before. It opens up a new view of his musical nature.
The problem with trying to fit David into a single genre is that he is too versatile to fit. Other things (like ZG) pop out of the box just when you think you can put the lid on and call it a package. He really is his own genre -- or could be -- if he were to have the freedom and the guidance from a trusted co-writer. But I don’t think the musical world is ready or able (lack of vision) to open up that possibility. David may have to fight his way through the maze until he has a large enough body of work to break out on his own.
I think we may have a long road ahead of us as fans, waiting for the right combination of song and circumstance to see David break out of the pack.
Rascal, you are so on point in this article. I’ve missed your brave and unabashedly tell-it-like-it-is insights on David’s real strengths as a force in the music world.
When you said that “David needs to make us cry”, it is exactly what has made me keep coming back to watch, listen, hear, and feel him in song. I have never seen myself so moved by any singer in my whole life whose Voice I need to hear or imagine hearing everyday since the AI7 finale last year. I have memorized his Voice, ‘coz I’m such a closet ODD’er. I can entertain myself in my alone moments during long trips playing his songs in my head.
Has anyone tried lip-synching his slow songs? I do this with singers whose voices I admire, just to get to feel what it’s like to sing like them. With David, his Voice has a tremendous power over me. It gives me chills and just overwhelms me. He makes me cry.
And I agree with you, Rascal, that the best voices are revealed when they do great ballads. I had a recent talk with one of my colleagues who is always my opposite on her favored AI contestant in each season, and I found her to tend to like ‘showy’ singers. (She went for Hicks, Bice, Cook and Adam.) But being the more musically-trained between the two of us, I advised her that the way to spot a truly talented singer is thru his or her ballad renditions. She was surprised by what I said because (alluding to Joymus’s post)she is one of the great majority who favors showmanship over true vocal ability.
David will do pop for as long as he is young enough to do it, and he has admitted that it is what he wants to do until he finds the style that best suits him. He may be saying this now for practical and business reasons because that’s where the money is. But I think he knows he is really strong in ballads and inspirational songs, that’s where his power comes from.
JR4DA, I think I know who you’re referring to as going to the US for David’s concerts. Gosh, how I envy her!
Good morning everyone from the land of platypus. I know we are still waiting for those videos of DC. He tweeted,”@ahecht25 Yes, but I hope you never see the video! I messed up lol. It was my first time though and I started learning it 2 nights ago”
But David did not say he made people cry and was given a standing ovation after his performance. Our humble balladeer.
Rascal as you have written,
“being balladeer will capture new fans in broader demographics by bringing the The Voice in all its glory to the market: the enormous subtlety of phrasing, the sleek charcoal tone, the hunger and yearning that opens caverns of emotion. In a phrase, David needs to make us cry.”
Well he made those statesmen/congressmen/congresswomen/legislators cry.
“David Archuleta committed his efforts to motivating the younger generation to get involved, mentor and make a difference. On a piano which formerly belonged to President Truman, Archuleta performed two songs, one of which brought the audience to tears and then to their feet for an ovation as it reminded them that despite the glittery surroundings, the reason the evening was taking place was for those children most in need.”
the link
http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-11-2009/0005042490&EDATE=
Terrence Howard, David Archuleta, Perform at State Department/ Speaker Pelosi Joins Legislators, Children Uniting Nations, Daphna Ziman & Russell Simmons to Push for Change in Child Welfare Policy
CUN’s National Conference in DC, included over 20 Attending Key Legislators, Speaker Pelosi, Performances with a Pop Idol, an Oscar Nominee & A Special Message from Bill Clinton
LOS ANGELES and WASHINGTON, June 11 /PRNewswire/ — Children Uniting Nations (CUN), one of the premier non-profit organizations working with at-risk and foster youth, announced its partnership with Russell Simmons’ “Hip Hop Summit Action Network” at the 4th Annual “Keeping the Promise to our Children” conference in Washington DC. Both organizations vowed to develop more mentoring programs in the African American community and raise awareness to children in need. The conference press breakfast at the Capitol was packed with power from celebrities, legislators, prominent speakers and was hosted by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. “Children Uniting Nations gives America’s children an opportunity to succeed by building mentoring relationships,” said Speaker Nancy Pelosi. “And when CUN comes to the Hill, Members of Congress listen because we know that CUN knows how to build self-esteem and life skills for foster and at-risk children.”
Celebrities (Russell Simmons, Terrence Howard, Vivica Fox, Gabriel Union, David Archuleta and Michael Copon, Shawn King, Catherine Dent) were insightful and dedicated to getting people committed to joining the CUN movement to recruit mentors and elevate attention to children in need. The event concluded at the Department of State in the historical Benjamin Franklin reception room, where Terrence Howard gave a poignant and charismatic speech reminding the audience that “there is an angel in us all and not to forget to use it” just before taking the stage to perform a Latin-jazz ensemble. David Archuleta committed his efforts to motivating the younger generation to get involved, mentor and make a difference. On a piano which formerly belonged to President Truman, Archuleta performed two songs, one of which brought the audience to tears and then to their feet for an ovation as it reminded them that despite the glittery surroundings, the reason the evening was taking place was for those children most in need.
Participating political leaders and prominent guests included: Congresswoman Bachmann, Congresswoman Diane Watson, Congressman Xavier Becerra, Congressman Howard Berman, Congressman Joseph Crowley, Congressman Adam Schiff, Senator Mary Landrieu, Honorable Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senator Charles Schumer, Congressman Ed Markey, Senator Patty Murray, Senator Debbie Stabenow, Congresswoman Laura Richardson, Congresswoman Jane Harmon, Congressman Brad Sherman, Congressmen Lee Hamilton, Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, Marian Wright Edelman (American activist for the rights of children and president and founder of the Children’s Defense Fund), Former Majority House Leader Dick Armey, Former Congressman Ralph Regula and Former Congressman Jim Colby.
This year’s panel discussions included key youth issues such as, “Student Loan Forgiveness in Exchange for Academic Mentoring of Foster Children,” “Physical Health, Nutrition and Obesity in Youth,” “Drugs & Drug Trafficking,” “Mental Heath and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder,” “Impact of AIDS and HIV on African American Community,” and “The Impact of Economic Decline on the Future of Our Children.”
Children Uniting Nations Chairwoman Daphna Ziman remarked, “We are appreciative and are grateful to have had so many influential economic leaders and university researchers dedicated to finding a better future for our children as well as such amazing legislative support, media attention and incredible celebrities assembled together in the effort of helping us raise awareness to the needs of our nations at risk youth and help us to advance the priority of children’s issues on the political agenda. There is no point in healing the nation if in the process we destroy the souls of our children who are our future!”
SOURCE Children Uniting Nations
Eloquent Rascal…. . for me this is the bottom line. How David can make people feel, just with his voice alone.
“the enormous subtlety of phrasing, the sleek charcoal tone, the hunger and yearning that opens caverns of emotion. In a phrase, David needs to make us cry.”
This is EXACTLY what David does every time…Thanks Rascal, you express it like no other.
Definitive, forceful, enlightening. Rascal, your writing is beautiful art, a crystal goblet brimming with ambrosia for the mind.
Balladeer…I thought about this for a while since I read this early this AM.
Do I prefer the ballads? Yes…will that be the route of financial success--to allow the continued recording, releases, tours? joy? happiness? for the focus of this blog. IDK…and that’s really what I want, whatever brings success, happiness and joy as defined by David, the artist, not me.
Marlie7, I believe you said it best…we are in for the long haul…so what’s wrong with that *I mull over and over to myself* Nothing, really. Financial success is what sells in the music world the most and obviously I don’t exist in that demographic any more
. Joy and happiness are in the eye of the beholder.
So, I just have to cast my desires and wishes out to the Cosmos and see what comes back to me. As goofy as that sounds, I’m thinking it works. Life is grand!
I realize that some of you are not as enthusiastic as I am about David Foster producing for David, however I feel it “in my bones,” that given the right song, a collaboration between the two of them would be magic. I think Foster could connect to David’s “old soul” which would result in some phenomenal music.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been in contact with one another already as Foster is well known for pairing up with great young vocalists.
Maybe I’m dreaming, but it’s such a nice dream!
Joner, I don’t mind David Foster collaborating with David on a power ballad. I imagine whatever ballad he gave David would send tingles down my spine. I will give Foster his props for knowing how to make a vocalist shine.
However, is he David’s “Count Basie” or even, as TOfan said, his “Quincy Jones”? I don’t think so.
For me, at least, David Foster seems too much defined by a different era of music. I forget which magazine it was (was it Newsweek or Time?) that said David is the Voice of the new millennium. And if that’s true, then I would love for David to work with a producer who equally represents the new millennium and a new sound that complements David favorably.
The question of course is: does such a producer exist right now?
As with anything David -- focusing on any aspect of his career -educational aspirations, career decisions or music choices, is complicated at best and leads to semi-frustration. I have never felt this invested in the intimate career doings of any celebrity in my life. As Rascal rightly said -- it’s hard not to feel so protective or defensive about someone you feel so passionate about. We are not in the loop of Team Archuleta and it’s a bit like looking in through windows as a family sits down to dinner.
We love him deeply and want the whole world to understand just what makes him so special. He is a versatile, multi-faceted, multi-talented individual and as Marlie suggested -- we are in for a long haul. It seems the best we can hope for is for someone on his team to keep an ear to the ground regarding the fansites (suggestions, comments, analytical posts) concert feedback (likes/dislikes) for his label and management to heed or acknowledge our hopes and dreams for David.
At this point it is seemingly the force of David’s charisma and personality which is attracting new fans. When will it be mostly because of his music?
rascal..as usual, you bring clarity where there seems to be so much confusion in our minds about David and what direction he should or should not take. All we can do is wait and hopefully he will make the right choices. Jeff is very excited, & David seems to be taking it one day at a time…about the new albums.
David’s latest tweet….
Finally in LA. Gonna do some recording and writing for the next few days. 51 mins ago
And Jeff’s latest tweet…
Starting David’s recording for both albums today, very exciting!! Some new, some familiar producers and writers, Christmas looking great!!
37 minutes ago from web
I have a good feeling about the Christmas album. If there are some traditional songs that we know David can sing like no other as we heard at the jingle concerts, and if the new songs Jeff said are written just for David aren’t cheesy, I think it can be the top selling christmas album of this year. And it can become a re-released every year! I think the Christmas album will allow David The Voice, to shine. No Jingle Bells or Rudolph like songs though, puh-leeze!
JR..I’m so sorry! I’m not going to any of those concerts your friend is attending. I’m going to Del Mar, Pitt, AC, and Louisville. Otherwise, I would have been most happy to meet with her!
DC Video everyone’s been waiting for…
httpv://davidarchuletanetwork.ning.com/video/2432637:Video:1099907
OK..try this..
http://davidarchuletanetwork.ning.com/video/2432637:Video:1099907
So much to absorb, starting with Rascal. You do have a gift. You are so good at sorting through the mucky muck and then expressing it with laser sharp clarity. You should have gone to law school with Ronald, you could convince me of just about anything.
Been playing some of the AI stuff the last few weeks. He is so good! And When You Say You Love Me still gets me every single time! what he does with that song! But, I also love SOT, the soul he has put in WFM, the funky YEDL, glorious Angels, and this ZG is kind of addictive to me.
So,I guess what that means is, whatever you sing David…I’m all ears.
PRAYER OF THE CHILDREN AT SNARKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
http://www.snarkyarchies.com/
djafan#41
Wow! “Prayer of the Children”…..When sung by David Archuleta, it’s not just song, it’s a religious experience!
Thanks for posting!
{{{SF}}} Thank you for sharing that link to Prayer of the Children.
The Voice! The Voice!
Whew!
As an aside, how cool is it that Terence Howard was the first to stand up at the end of David’s song? (I like this actor, so I had to comment -- hee).
Sigh.
This can only mean that the Imagine video is on its way, right?
Right?
Finally!
http://davidarchuletanetwork.ning.com/video/2432637:Video:1099907
oh my lord.
Amazing! Who can do that -- sing a long, variable rhythm song, a capella and stay in tune the whole time. I can’t stop listening to it.
Wahhhhhhhh!!!!
I can’t access videos at work!! I have to wait til I get home..after an 11 hr work day! wahhhhhhhhh!!
But I know David The Voice was sublime, superb…made everyone cry, just like rascal said he should. I’m getting chills just thinking about it and I haven’t even heard it yet!
I love that he can do that to us!
I love the way he goes from a whisper to belting it out! He has some mad skills! WOW!
Rascal -- this remarkable performance is the exclamation point at the end of your timely post.
THIS is what separates David from the Adam Lamberts of the worlds. THIS is another perfect example of why it is so hard to pin any one genre on him. THIS is probably what keeps Jive off-balance in their handling of him. He just goes out on his own accord -- no unnecessary radio station tours and hits one out of the park. David is his own viral marketing.
We are so lucky -- Rascal was able to get us that video. It is now in the video player on the righthand sidebar and in the videos section of the site….ENJOY!
rascal -- And second, being balladeer will capture new fans in broader demographics by bringing the The Voice in all its glory to the market: the enormous subtlety of phrasing, the sleek charcoal tone, the hunger and yearning that opens caverns of emotion. In a phrase, David needs to make us cry.
Great article… and this is what David does best. You’ve been truly missed and reading this emphasizes the why… Thank you.
And now that we finally have the “video” of David Archuleta singing Prayer of the Children it comes full circle of why I follow everything David, I don’t want to miss anything, specially such a brilliant heart wrenching performance like this.
He has made us cry…again…and I feel that this exactly what I needed after reading rascal’s post.
What a gift he is to us all.
youtube version of Prayers of the children.
David is so humble. AS usual, just bowing then quickly went back to his seat
Why would David NOT want us to see a video of his performance?
I guess he just didn’t want it to be “about him”, just wanted to keep the focus on why he sang the song in the first place.
But now I want a video of his IMAGINE..And I haven’t even heard his Prayer of The Children yet!
In the words of Tina Turner: “You’re simply the best / Better than all the rest.”
Co-signing with Joymus here!
One word to describe that performance: POWER.
Sheer vocal power.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ottn1my0znn
Mp3 of Prayer of the children , thanks to IDF, musikfreeke
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nwmmwztnmzl
MP4 thanks to IDF, KC21
They said see if these videos work.
Enjoy!!!
Rascal,
Your writing is impeccable. And I’m not talking about your amazing range of vocabulary -- sometimes this non-native speaker of English needs a dictionary! -- it’s about focus and clarity. You’re never self-indulgent. You won’t write something just because you think it’s cool. You care about the truth and that makes you our David guru!
I’m not sure it’s time for ‘staking that claim’ yet as David keeps us guessing, but that won’t be long. Its in the air. Album 3.
# 16 Mbmonchi
‘David makes it about the music’
Yes, but it’s also David’s character and kindness which command respect, even from people like Perez
# 43 HG
I luv me some Terrence Howard! How can you not to? He’s an awesome actor. My favourites are Hustle & Flow and The Brave One with Jodie Foster. His acting is natural, stripped down and yet so intense and charismatic. He’s been nominated for an Oscar twice, I guess. And the fact that he recognizes true talent when he hears it just makes me love him more.
Oh, and he’s gorgeous too! Amazing eyes, like David’s.
Here’s an mp3 version available (thanks to the folks at IDF):
http://www.mediafire.com/?ottn1my0znn
Prayer of the Children video, just an observation, the man sitting in the front row looks somewhat overcome. We know how he feels.
thanks for the mp3′s!
SF, run, don’t walk home!
from: http://twitter.com/AskDisneyCeleb
Who thinks @DavidArchie should be in Camp Rock 2? Any @DavidArchie fans would like to say their opinion?
*please don’t shoot the messenger! Ha ha
Valbraz! Oh man, I had a feeling something was up when he was asked recently about Camp Rock 2 and got all evasive.
Rascal, I loved your article! But will we be foiled again by Disney???
Uh oh! Their minds are percolating…
Who likes @selenagomez and @DavidArchie to pair up? need your opinions…
about 2 hours ago from web
actually I looked at that page and I don’t think it has any real connection to Disney. phew!
and I’m done spamming the site…
Agreed rascal.
Davids voice needs to be showcased, even if its only 1 or 2 songs. I really want people to feel his emotion and his tenderness through a song that does his vocal ability justice. He needs that epic ballad to really call his own, to really make people think WOW, just like we did for Imagine initially.
I would love for him to get a song like WYSYLM, or maybe even record that song. He totally owns it, way better than Josh Grobans version. Even if its only 1 or 2 songs, it will do the trick. Like you say, David needs to make us cry.
Rascal,
I quoted this article over at IDF and people are loving it and in total agreement with it.
I just listened to PFTC just now on some decent speakers and I’m having those same chills and tears again. I was actually doubting my “faith” recently -- I have been loving every new surprise, but also wondering when I would have another one of those moments when David completely takes me with him, body and soul, to that place when I’m contemplating the joy and pain of the human condition.
It’s not technical, either. It’s those moments when David really FEELS a song. Please, Jive -- give David 1 or 2 songs that let him show his compassion for the human race. Make us feel again.
Rascak, a comment from katharinekatkat at IDF, along the same lines
I’ve said this before, but David absolutely NEEDS to have a sad ballad on his next album. In other words, he needs a sad song that would make us cry and show us his AMAZING vocals.
A nice piano ballad but not about love. About something sad. ^_^
*Rascal
ronaldsf -- A nice piano ballad but not about love. About something sad. ^_^
Don’t know if it’s because I’m a softy….
Save the Day
Falling
Somebody Out There
Do it for me every time….tears
I’m dying to hear him sing Save the Day and Falling live!
Oh….Forgot one Desperate….Please let him sing this live!
Rascal, love the article! David is indeed hard to “get.” I would love to see him go the ballad route, at least for some of the next album, so that we can luxuriate in that “sleek charcoal tone.” Yes, let there be some ballads on this new album. Some nice, slow, sad ones. But I see another issue – that of the difference between studio David and performance David. The songs on the 1st CD were okay, but came alive in performance. Some songs, like Touch My Hands, that I loved for David’s voice, but frankly thought were a bit bubble gummy, turned into compelling artistry in live performances. Here is my question: how can he get that “performance” David onto the CD so that everyone can hear what we can hear? Is this a matter of experience, or of having the right producers?
Since Delta Airlines is on such good terms with David they should use Zero Gravity and David on a tv commercial. Don’t you think it’d be perfect?
ronald #65, has that commenter not listened to FALLING? It’s one of my favs, and it is very sad and somewhat dark, which is why some fans won’t listen to it. Even though David WROTE it, lyrics & music, some fans just don’t think it’s “David”. He feels pain and anguish just like anyone else. He’s human. Granted, he’s an elevated human.
The other two, Desperate & SOT, are sad and uplifting at the same time, like Falling.
I just watched the video of David singing Prayer of The Children, several times. I wish I had been there. He was simply magnificent. The Voice..what an instrument he was blessed with. The song is not easy to sing, but he made it sound easy. He learned it a couple of nights before the appearance, which is just amazing. It was just beautiful. And I’m a mess now. I didn’t expect it, was not quite ready for it to be…what it was.
I agree with the first four paragraphs, but with respect, the rest reeks of platitudinous windbaggery.
Baobabs! I remember you! What are you doing here? Trying to stir up trouble, I see.
Anywayz, my fellow TDCers, can I just say how especially giddy and contented I feel… considering the awful way the week started with that hateful incident at work, I am so pleased to have David erase so much of that stuff with
1. A Fan Pack that I’ve been playing on a loop on my ipod.
2. An opportunity for me to unleash my creative juices producing a video for ZG.
3. A video of David singing a cappella.
For someone who keeps us guessing about what’s coming next, and when we’re going to hear from or see him, David sure keeps us satisfied as a fanbase, and I’m just so happy to be an Archie! I just wanted to say that.
As for this preference for ballads, I would love for David to reclaim what made him popular and what definitely makes him stand out in today’s scene.
But I’m not sure I want to choose between ZG David and Prayer for the Children David. Both versions moved me deeply this week. The danceable track picks me up and makes me think of circuses and space flight and dancing the night away. The softer, balladeer David brings me to tears or calms my nerves.
It’s all good. He’s all good! It’s been a beautiful week!
Hellogorgeous-- So glad you remember me (apparently, for all the wrong reasons), but that’s just my honest take. Not trying to “stir up” anything. Simply put, I can love David as much as the next bloke without the accompanying idolatry.
baobabs727: “Simply put, I can love David as much as the next bloke without the accompanying idolatry”
Oh, really? Then why are you hanging out on David fansites with all of us other crazies? LOL Just couldn’t resist. I welcome an alternative view. Honest.
hmm baobabs727- interesting comments….really.
you’ve captured my attention…..
In the midst of all this seriousness, this video is hilarious:
Well, since this is a cult perhaps we should start using daily passwords so as to keep the right crazies inside and the wrong ones outside. Oh, never mind.
Oh my goodness! I just watched the PFTC video. The tears just started streaming uncontrollably… Then my husband asked me something about a concert yesterday evening which didn’t interest me at all. With tears still on my face, I just smiled at him and said sorry, I don’t know.
He’s used to me tearing up listening with my earbuds, and he’s probably thinking “It’s Archuleta again.”
David is truly glorious with acapella renditons. I think he should do an acapella album, only his Voice. He can do the layers, the different voices himself. Just like he did in his first cd. No backing insruments, just his Voice is enough.
We have a local composer who did one during his younger days at the height of his career. He doesn’t have the best vocals, but his acapella album showcased his musical ingenuity and it remains to be one of my favorites that has come out of the local music scene. David has the vocals and has the passion and he connects so well that his voice alone touches not only the heart but also the soul. An acapella album will show critics his real worth as a musical genius and legend. It will blow them, all of us, away. That’ll be worth a page in the music history books!
Marlie, #77,
He had me bustin’ out laughin’ too many times. (My family is looking at me like I’m a little crazier than normal!) Ha! Ha!
Check this out, too. Great stuff on David as a mastervlogger.
If this site is real, we’ll get to hear David sing “Go the Distance” from the movie, Hercules. Jordin, Taylor and Katy are also listed on the CD.
http://hannahchata.blogspot.com/2009/06/disneymania-7-tracks.html
I am in awe of this kid who in one week commanded the stage in an arena full of soccer fans on one evening and a hall full of state department dignities, including speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi, on another.
Hey gang, you must check this kid out. “Go The Distance” and it is amazing. The tag on the end gave me chills.
Gosh rascal, how do you do it? Your posts open up a whole new vista of thought that leave me slack-jawed. My fuses are blown on that one. I totally get what you’re saying, and at the same time, am wondering if that’s because of my own musical proclivities. I’m Irish, and steeped in the genetics of balladry, and I would love nothing more than to hear a whole album of WYSYLMs written *just* for David. Every fiber of my being screams YES!!!!! At the same time, I wonder--like YJfanofdavid--if that’s what David wants. And as others have mentioned, the issue of a producer who *gets* David is key. Foster? eh, not so much (in spite of his awesomeness). I’d rather see someone like Max Martin (who did double-duty as co-writer on Pink’s stunning “I Don’t Believe You”) or Stargate’s production of Rihanna’s “Unfaithful” (beauuuuutiful, simple piano… very understatedly dramatic)… um, dang! it’s too late to get this wound up right now. To be continued. Guh! Thanks rascal!
Rascal,
So good to hear your eloquent voice once more. I am seriously impressed and in awe all over again by your writing. This stood out for me as about as concise and incisive a way of describing David’s persona as I have ever read:
“…his gentle nature staked with a steel spine”
That is so beautifully put and powerful.
To stake his claim with that steel spine as the Balladeer at this time may be premature and problematic. I think David is aware that he is walking a razor’s edge in his early career. He can not appear too much the balladeer just yet. I think he is too young to settle down with one genre. Music is his lover and he is eager to play the field. Loss of a cool edgy vibe at this stage would very likely be lost forever.
And as much as I adore his ballads with the rest of you, it is his more upbeat songs that I find myself enjoying more and more. Apologize was my favorite of the AI tour. My favorite songs of his are Crush,(still), YEDL, WFY, WFM, ALTNOY and ZG. I love the ballads, can’t nobody do a ballad like David, but I also love the urgency that emerges in the upbeat songs. I love the lightning fast phrasing and head/body whips, and the way he strides the stage and uses his whole body to interpret the feelings his voice expresses.
If he does what he loves he will not go far wrong. I think he is surely destined to be the contemporary male singer who will one day own the ballad. I just want him to have a little more fun before he settles down to that marriage made in heaven.
Angelica — I never suggested that David should do only ballads or even primarily ballads. But the plain fact of the matter is, people will never be stunned into Archusubmission by even the most appealing beat-based pop tune, even if it’s a monster hit. Hit makers come and go. David can be as succesful as anyone in a range of genres, but it will be the ballad that connects with people on an entirely different level, that signifies him as standing apart from the pack, and identifies him as a candidate for legendary status. It’s never too soon to start seeding that hallowed ground.
Similar to the fanpack ~ I’m willing to put anything on the risk that if David put “a power vocal” track on iTunes biweekly ~ it would consistently generate revenue and awareness.
I wonder how much time and money it takes to put those up?
He doesn’t need much ~ give him a studio and a couple hours ~ heck ~ he doesn’t need a band or a piano ~ just let him belt out something.
Too bad we have no say in that matter ~ in the meantime ~ I’m glad Rascal came back ~ because I can always count on him to bring what I’m feeling home.
Rascal #87
I have this vision of soul/pop/blues David with a solid hit-making career, and yet, getting the standing ovation when he does a ballad on the Grammy’s, a ballad for a TV show, or an a capella ballad at the end of his soul/pop/blues concerts like he did the Christmas one’s at the Jingles. He doesn’t need to give up the rest, just make that a kind of “signature exclamation point” in his career.
“Music is his lover and he is eager to play the field.”
Great imagery here, Angelica. One of the things I love about this community -- since Noting David then Just David and now TDC -- is how we set the tone for serious contemplation, every now and then veering off into some silly fun, but at the core is this deep respect for David and each other.
Now, this is an interesting analogy because I have a feeling -- just as David can describe what his ideal partner will be like right now, even if he’s not pursuing a serious relationship -- his approach to music is the same. I get a sense that David knows exactly the kind of music that moves him and that he wants to pursue. He also has enough wisdom to know he needs to do some experimenting with a debut album (read: being open to what his label wants him to experiment with).
I mean, the debut album is definitely a lot of getting his feet wet with the professional side of music, but I suspect he wants to hunker down with a particular type of music for his sophomore effort. Still, what made him popular was his interpretation of the ballad. Nothing wrong with a heavy pursuit of that genre. A ballad-heavy album with some uptempo and dance tracks would be quite successful, I believe.
I’m still loving me some ZG, but of course it doesn’t slay me like ATM or PFTC or Angels. “Archusubmission”? Is that what you call it, Rascal?
#26
Re posting my reply in case you didn’t see it.
JR
I am on the east coast, so I will not be attending those shows. Dawn and I will be road tripping to Providence RI and Manchester NH. There will be epic car ride video!
I have an offer to extend to your friend. If she will come here and comment 2 times, I will send her a Solo tour CD And SLC concert CD. How can she remain a lurker now? After twice, she may become desensitized and realize how much fun it is to express her feelings.
Abrra
JR: I am going to Atlantic City and Hershey -- east coast only. Wish I could help your friend.
prd9601 . June 12, 2009 at 3:34 am .
OK
That video is just too freaky. Even for this freak.
LOL!!!!!
Abrra
refnaf
You’ve got mail!
Abrra
Dear rascal…
You have dared to go where others fear to tread…and my wish is that someone from the powers that be for David would ‘read and learn’.
Also kizzi,…you have rather urgent mail…
SB
Rascal!!!! You’ve spoken again with so much love--the same love that I feel for David, but just don’t have the “word knowledge” to put it into writing.
I can’t even begin to pick a favorite part of your comments because the whole post just rings so true. It just makes my heart swell to the same level that it was at in seeing my daughter in-law graduate last night. An overwhelming feeling.
Thank you, thank you
:)
Rascal#87
The thought occurred to me before I logged back on this morning that you didn’t mean David should do only ballads. Then I saw your reply. LOL. I stand corrected.
I think an album of half upbeat pop and half ballad would be a very smart move, with at least half the ballads acoustic or acappella. Throw in a soulful groove, (like a reworked expanded Reno rendition of Works for Me,) and World Archusubmission is all but inevitable.
HG#90
I agree with you that as with his ideal partner, David knows exactly the kind of music that moves him and that he wants to pursue. He has said that he loves serious musical artists that do work that has meaning and depth. I think that in both personal and career goals, he is extremely patient and focused like a laser.
Trust the Archulator. 8)
JR — I am also on the east coast and going only to Manchester but I will happily add an incentive to Abrra’s challenge and make a bookmark for your friend. I know, who reads books anymore, but the bookmark sure looks good while it’s keeping place in that book one has been planning to read and has every intention of starting in on sooner or later!
An occasional lurker here, but really agree with #87 Rascal -- I have been saying to my kids that all these current “hit” artists really won’t be around in 20 years,t hey are here for the current wave and then most of them will be gone, replaced by the new crop of what’s hot. Don’t think we’ll see a lot of rap being played in retirement homes in 50 years.
Angelica -
I think an album of half upbeat pop and half ballad would be a very smart move, with at least half the ballads acoustic or acappella. Throw in a soulful groove, (like a reworked expanded Reno rendition of Works for Me,) and World Archusubmission is all but inevitable.
May TPTB read this….. this would be bliss on earth.
JR- I will be going to LA Nokia, so will davidfanliz and mikesd we all have VIP. Does she have VIP?
If so, maybe you could put her contact info in the contact page.
JR, I am going to SJ VIP. Would be happy to meet your friend!
This from aolradio on twitter:
aolradioDavid Archuleta fans: Hear “A Thousand Miles” and “Zero Gravity” on the Pop Idols station in heavy rotation @ 4 pm ET. Enjoy!
Tweet from AOL Radio…
David Archuleta fans: Hear “A Thousand Miles” and “Zero Gravity” on Pop Idols station in heavy rotation @ 4pm ET. Enjoy!
http://player.play.it/player/aolPlayer.html?v=4.5.23&ur=1&us=1&id=16929
Tofan #11 Yup Shop Around started it for me as well and Desparate has had me in crying. Crazy -- when I finally figured out YouTube -- also had me in tears (is that a ballad?). Works For Me has also seen the tears from me, especially when he sings “There were days when my voice don’t make no sound for me, For me”.
“The Voice” will prevail.
After reading everyone’s comments -- I don’t think that David needs to ‘fit’ into any one genre. The ballads will be on one music station, the dance grooves a different music station, the inspirational on yet another etc. He’ll be the turtle; slow but sure wins the race. I’m thinking that he will do what he needs to do now to become well enough known and reach a point financially to then do his version of ‘soulful pop’.
*Swoons*
The latest from David’s Twitter:
“Fast Car -- Tracy Chapman just came on the radio! Happy day! …”
Every time I think I can’t love David any more, he dials it up a notch. Sigh.
Oh Rascal, so nice to have you back, not that you ever left!
I so agree with your post, about David being a balladeer. During AI7, we fell in love with David through his ballads and yet he got criticized for singing too many of them. Did Cook get criticized for singing too many songs with a rock beat?
David has proven over again that he excels in many different genres. He is multi-faceted and it’s hard to pin him down to one genre, so why even try? It’s a futile effort! He has even proven that he doesn’t need music to back him up. His voice alone carries the tune. It’s the mark of true talent!
“But when it comes to the expressive sophistication of the human voice alone, nothing offers as suitable a setting as the ballad.”
I am quoting you, Rascal, because you are spot-on!
On another note, (pun intended!) please no tomatoes but I, for one am elated that David is going to sing the song “Go The Distance”, theme song from the movie “Hercules”. In fact, I was just about to submit this song for the “Song In A Series” post because I think David is perfect for this song. It’s one of those BALLAD songs with a message that David loves. Oh, he’s going to shine! For those not too familiar with the song, here’s the original singer’s version, Michael Bolton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6v_gOmVJ4I&feature=related
Check out these lyrics:
Go The Distance
I have often dreamed
Of a far off place
Where a hero’s welcome
Would be waiting for me
Where the crowds will cheer
When they see my face
And a voice keeps saying
This is where I’m meant to be
I’ll be there someday
I can go the distance
I will find my way
If I can be strong
I know ev’ry mile
Will be worth my while
When I go the distance
I’ll be right where I belong
Down an unknown road
To embrace my fate
Though that road may wander
It will lead me to you
And a thousand years
Would be worth the wait
It might take a lifetime
But somehow I’ll see it through
And I won’t look back
I can go the distance
And I’ll stay on track
No, I won’t accept defeat
It’s an uphill slope
But I won’t lose hope
‘Till I go the distance
And my journey is complete
But to look beyond the glory is the hardest part
For a hero’s strength is measured by his heart
Like a shooting star
I will go the distance
I will search the world
I will face it’s harms
I don’t care how far
I can go the distance
‘Till I find my hero’s welcome
Waiting in your arms
I will search the world
I will face it’s harms
‘Till I find my hero’s welcome
Waiting in your arms
Okay, I’m a tweet follower LOL. David tweeted this:
“I’ve seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I’m on my way -- Yes (the band). Good song!”
So, here it is:
marlie7 . June 12, 2009 at 3:58 pm .
GMTA!
I had this song in my head all afternoon since I read that tweet! Thanks for taking the time to post it so that I can get it finished! It was very innovative in its day.
Abrra
Longtime reader since ND (“Lurker” sounds weird to me)…rare poster…
am posting without reading others yet, before my spontaneity fades…so forgive me if I repeat someone’s thought or am out of sync. ..and apologize already for a long post, I hate long posts..sigh……….
I enjoy all that’s written here but must say I especially love seeing a new Rascal entry, who I always anticipate will hit some DA nerve I’ve had, and articulate it to the next level!
I know the main point here is about THE VOICE being the distinguishing factor that will give David his due, and the ballad the best vehicle for that. And since it is so undeniably who he is…I believe it will evolve over time back to that. You are most definitely right…he alone owns it.
But the aspect that strikes me in this article is something I’ve thought about a while…how
David doesn’t fit a “type”, he is his own, original… he is not iconoclastic, just a human-being…being…David. After you breathe the fresh air that comes with that…it feels stunningly powerful because it’s so rare in that business. Like he said in a recent interview “It’s not that I’m trying to be some great person…I’m just living my life the best way I know how, being myself…and it’s nice to see “who you are” works.”
I hope for him, in a business built on icons, he is somehow able to continue to redefine his own unique brand of celebrity “as himself” and is able to continue to live a real life, as he so desires. I believe he can and will.
We’re a world that’s gotten so used to superficiality, celebrity-culture, marketing hype and “perception as real”…so when…really REAL comes along…it’s too quiet. Too unfettered and unassuming. Either people miss it or don’t know how to relate. Or just don’t think it’s all that special..as if! Not because David’s brand of “normal”, though rare, is so hard to “get” or see…but because many have lost touch with their own humanity and are unable to connect with the real stuff, much less give him his due in the business that is built on bull.
I think those that gravitated to David and “got it” even before we could explain it…on some level, were responding to the realness, purity and joy David brings that’s been lost to ourselves and our culture for so long. It kinda felt like a natural high, something good and real and grounded, so rare yet so disarmingly normal…more familiar to our own nature than the usual brand of “show-biz.” How else do you explain the enigma of so many peoples’ strong response to him. (beyond the stunning vocals of course..)
David’s what I call “A Happy Place.. with an awesome Soundtrack!” What’s better than that?!!
And yes…we all feel protective of him (Adam the most amazing performer to ever come out of AI, are you kidding me?!!!)
You wonder…how are people not getting this?!…it’ not the messenger…it’s how he’s communicating the the message…not everyone has switched gears back to simple basic “real” to see what’s there I guess..
It’s frustrating to us when he doesn’t seem to get his due…but David Archuleta is new territory…and groundbreaking takes time. He’ll keep paving the way.
I really really DO…”Trust the Archulator.”
I trust he will keep being true to himself. I believe he will continue to sing music he loves, of all genres, including meaningful ballads. I’ll be listening and lovin’ it all.
That undeniable VOICE and his infectious, authentic spirit, which absolutely distinguishes David Archuleta is irrepressible and will happily keep keepin’ it real, no matter who “gets it” and follows along…
amb4dja -- APPLAUSE!!!!! Thanks for posting….that was beautifully said.
amb4dja, BRAVO! Standing Ovation! Great post! Agree with everything you so eloquently said! Please don’t stay “just a reader”…
Hey, thanks for the warm response guys…
Happy to post about David…just can’t always articulate my super-charged DA thoughts!
Gotta log out now, laaaaate to dinner…but will be back~~
ps. will at some point figure out how to replace the “invisible avatar” too..duh..
Remember the PC Richards event held in NY? The stripped versions of ALTNOY, Angels and ATM are available ON Demand. Go to:
http://y100.com/cc-common/ondemand/player2.html?program=vod&track_id=22703&s=d
Right now, they only play in my Explorer browser. I can’t pull them up in Foxfire.
Hey, haven’t been around in a while.
Rascal, love what you have to say! Why would one away from your their greatest asset?!
why would one shy away from…
amb4dja #111 Yes you can articulate how you feel. Kudos -- well said.
desertrat 116… only for US citizens, sigh
amb4dja #111 (can I call you amb?
), LOVED your post, esp. this:
“he is not iconoclastic, just a human-being…being…David. After you breathe the fresh air that comes with that…it feels stunningly powerful because it’s so rare in that business.”
That took me back to last season on A.I. when I’d read ridiculous reviews that invariably criticized David for not being more slick in his responses to Ryan’s questions. It astounded me that being genuine and real was somehow considered a flaw.
I love that David describes his preferred style as “soulful pop” because ballad or up tempo, it’s that “human being…being…David” sweet, genuine soul that will elevate whatever he sings to something sublime.
This from Fanscene regarding David’s Christmas album…I hope they decide to add Mary did You Know, as it seems to be an overwhelming favorite among posters at other sites, so I hear.
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may only be the second week of June but the promise of a Merry Christmas is already here.
Ever since David Archuleta recorded his demo of “O Holy Night” back in December 2003, fans have been eagerly anticipating the release of his first Christmas album.
Fan Scene was allowed a sneak “peek” into Santa’s workshop to see what might lie in store for all the good little boys and girls this holiday season.
While most of the presents are still under wraps, Santa told us that “O Holy Night” and “Silent Night” will both be making the CD!
“Mary Did You Know” and “The Christmas Song” probably won’t make the cut at this point, but the elves are still working on song selection so it may be a month or so before they are sure which songs are the best mix.
In the meanwhile, they’d like to hear what songs YOU would like to hear on the David Archuleta Christmas Album. Please leave your suggestions in the comment section below!
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So you may want to go to fanscene to post your favorite, or perhaps TDC can have a poll here and send it on…somewhere??
I dunno?? But maybe someone here knows someone who knows someone who can let David or Jeff know.
# 108 bebereader
I’m excited about Go the Distance too!
While we wait for David’s version which I’m sure will be breathtaking check out Ricky Martin’s.
I find his moves so over the top -- a walking latino cliché, but I hope David will eventually display his kind of confidence, if only once in a while and just for fun.
SF, I took a peek at the tweets Jeff’s been getting and it looks as though he’s getting spammed with Christmas song requests. I think I saw everything but “I Saw mommy kissing Santa Claus”
Although someone there suggested Joni Mitchell’s “River” … I think I’d spontaneously combust, but it would be worth it.
This is kind of out of the blue, but just been thinking about how I continually marvel at his reservoir of talent. Could Groban do WFM? Mraz ZG? Mayer WYSYLM? a heart wrenching a capella Prayers Of The Children? work the stage with such intuitive rhythmic moves and that incredible charisma?
Include the gift of musicality and great potential as a songwriter, throw in self accompaniament on the piano(and hopefully someday guitar), and last but not least, the voice.
Who out there truly compares? And he is 18 freaking years old!
#120 awestruck & other from outside the US
this link to the “stripped” Angels may work for you; i have my fingers crossed:
http://a23.v18227d.c18227.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/23/18227/v0001/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/stripped/current/DavidArchuleta_Angels.wmv
#123 i enjoy ricky martin’s over the top moves. he performs as if he’s modeling.
amb4dja: Whoa! You MUST keep posting here. Well said!
amb4dja, wow!
I love this song. It has a Christmas vibe to me. It was used in the film “Love Actually” which has Christmas as backdrop. Last but not least, it’s sung by the Sara Bareilles. David’s voice in it would be unbelievable. Just David and a piano
This is my winter song to you.
The storm is coming soon,
It rolls in from the sea
My voice; a beacon in the night.
My words will be your light,
To carry you to me.
Is love alive?
Is love alive?
Is love
They say that things just cannot grow
Beneath the winter snow,
Or so i have been told.
They say were buried far,
Just like a distant star
I simply cannot hold.
Is love alive?
Is love alive?
Is love alive?
This is my winter song.
December never felt so wrong,
Cause youre not where you belong;
Inside my arms.
I still believe in summer days.
The seasons always change
And life will find a way.
Ill be your harvester of light
And send it out tonight
So we can start again.
Is love alive?
Is love alive?
Is love alive?
amb4dja,
Thank you for your insightful and well written post. I took the liberty of copying it and saving it to my computer for repeat readings. You make some great points to ponder.
“…when…really REAL comes along…it’s too quiet. Too unfettered and unassuming. Either people miss it or don’t know how to relate. Or just don’t think it’s all that special..as if! Not because David’s brand of “normal”, though rare, is so hard to “get” or see…but because many have lost touch with their own humanity and are unable to connect with the real stuff, much less give him his due in the business that is built on bull.”
Lately, I have been thinking a lot of Wordsworth’s “Preface to Lyrical Ballads.” I was very young when I first read these lines, but they hit me with such force, I never forgot them. He is speaking of writers, but I think any of the arts could be substituted for that word. I think, in a way, you are saying much the same thing about why some people are incapable of getting or appreciating David. I am posting the part of his writing that correlates to your own thoughts and that had such a profound effect on me so long ago.
“For the human mind is capable of being excited without the application of gross and violent stimulants; and he must have a very faint perception of its beauty and dignity who does not know this, and who does not further know, that one being is elevated above another, in proportion as he possesses this capability. It has therefore appeared to me, that to endeavour to produce or enlarge this capability is one of the best services in which, at any period, a Writer can be engaged; but this service, excellent at all times, is especially so at the present day. For a multitude of causes, unknown to former times, are now acting with a combined force to blunt the discriminating powers of the mind, and, unfitting it for all voluntary exertion, to reduce it to a state of almost savage torpor. “
DESERTRAT on #126 -- do you have the links for the rest? Thanks
AMB -- pls post more often. It is so nice to hear fresh perspectives from new posters
Welcome to TDC
VEE -- missed ya woman!
Rascal,
I have a question for you.
On another website (gay website), I found this comments. Is that you?
“If David himself is gay, the barriers to his coming out are about as steep as they get, what with having a Mormon upbringing and a deeply homophobic father who is also part of his management team.”
Posted by: rascal | Jun 11, 2009 12:37:14 PM
I don’t know where to add this comments but it seems that the balladeer topic is where you guys are at.
Mia…. I am so offended by your question on the comments you brought over from the “other” website I am not sure how to respond. I don’t want to see or hear questions about David’s personal life to be dissected here. Thats IT!! ITS HIS LIFE!!!!! If he chooses to share it with anyone… well great. But until then…Its not a topic for discussion. Its about his music and his character… Yes? Or am I mistaken about the purpose of this website?
#26 -- JR -- I live in Portland, I’d be happy to connect with your friend--you can reach me through the contacts page--dfLIZ knows where to find me!
Apologies for ducking in with such hasty messages, sometimes—like this morning. I get so excited contemplating issues such as those rascal mentions, then run off exploring who the heck produced this or that song that I love. And I then have no time to put together a coherent sentence. Anyway, what I was wanting to say earlier was that my dream team for David would include a producer who could take a [freshly written by or for David] ballad and put a contemporary spin on it that would project it into a whole new genre. I think, perhaps, the notion of “ballads” makes heels dig in because they are perceived to be rather old school. And heck--they are! Humans have been singing them for centuries! So that’s why I started looking at who’s pushing the envelope.
That’s why I thought to pull the curtain back on Pink’s production, and find Stargate (never heard of them!) Or Beyonce’s “Irreplaceable”… it’s a ballad with a pop beat. A hybrid. Or Rick Rubin’s work with Justin Timberlake on “(Another Song) All Over Again” .
Mind you, I’m talking producers—I don’t necessarily like the artists I’m mentioning (well, Pink is terrific!), but these producers seem to have been able to push the artist to a level that is otherwise uncharacteristic. Not that David needs to be pushed in this way—but the *genre* does, in order to get a toe in the door on the radio. And I would so love to hear this ballad on the radio, not just on my own iPod!
Oh, and one more thing—I would also love love love to see David team with Rudy Perez on a latin song.
Mia,
You ask rascal a question but you say nothing else other than quote a couple of sentences from another website.
If it were rascal, he didn’t discuss it here at TDC because here discussing aspects of David’s personal life is off limits. So I am curious as to what you are wanting by bringing this here.
I for one don’t care to engage in the subject at TDC unless it is something David is happy to get into.
There is a contact button at the top. Please feel free to use it.
highervibe, I’m with you, I feel I have no time for putting together my thoughts either. So much I want to say, have wanted to say along the way. So maybe real quickly before my eyes shut completely. I do these late night drive by some nights.
HG, belatedly, terrific ZG video! Love the imagery of the different types hovering above the ground and ending it with some dancing people is totally cool.
TOfan, brilliant suggestion! Never thought of what you thought but so true. A non-fangirly fan video is easier to pass on to your boss, haha! Can’t wait to see more videos.
rascal, Ode to Joy was a joy to re-read and reminded me of what was so wonderful about ND and all that you had done there.
And speaking of Ode to Joy, if anyone cares, “One of our loyal and beloved notingDavid regulars emailed me earlier today and gently suggested that I might turn my gaze to joy” was none other than good ol’ dfLIZ and not someone else as some had guessed back then. I outed you Liz lol.
amb4dja #111, thank you for such heartfelt words. I am always touched and moved by how many loving and dedicated fans David has.
Good night folks. See you all tomorrow.
MIA:
My-oh-my Mia! Shame on you! I had to learn the hard way here @ TDC…..discussion of personal life a definite “no-no”. I once brought up boxers and was so ashamed that I disappeared for awhile. I have not been the same since. (Poor me … lol!)
Actually, I thought your post was quite odd and I definitely question the meaning behind bringing it here…..just saying….
Hello everyone! Wasn’t David divine in DC??? Oh my….I cried!
He is so much da’ bomb!!
Bye!
jackryan4da 131, i just found these on another website; hope they work.
Links to stripped songs -- for those not living in US:
ATM
http://tiny.cc/upzNz
ALTNOY
http://tiny.cc/AvKne
Angels
http://a23.v18227d.c18227.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/23/18227/v0001/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/stripped/current/DavidArchuleta_Angels.wmv
RE. #138 -- in case the tiny urls don’t work:
ALTNOY
http://a23.v18227d.c18227.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/23/18227/v0001/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/stripped/current/DavidArchuleta_ALittleTooNotOverYou.wmv
ATM
http://a23.v18227d.c18227.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/23/18227/v0001/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/stripped/current/DavidArchuleta_AThousandMiles.wmv
Good morning everyone! It’s always great to have someone else move out of lurkerdom (or “readership”) to join in the conversation.
Thanks for your excellent points, amba4da!
Thanks for your feedback on my video, Vermeer!
Mia, my concerns about your post is less about the subject matter and more about interrogating someone about comments made elsewhere. As Vermeer already pointed out, there’s a contact list to contact individuals privately with such questions. Talk about taking things literally out of context!
desertrat MANY thanks for the links! Ask and you shall receive -- it is Christmas after all!
Thanks desertrat. I was able to to do sneaky strip at Y100 (LOL, not easy!) and have uploaded them on my youtube account so non-US fans can see the stripped versions.
Stripped ANGELS
Stripped ALTNOY
Stripped ATM
But just the same, thanks for the akamainstream links
Downloadable mp3s, mp4s and wmvs can be found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b168764a61c78fdf67cd7f7bd65f7eef210045b154886e74b8eada0a1ae8665a
Oh also, have uploaded Chef Archuleta’s stint at the Samurai Cook-off, so if anyone is interested, here you go!
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA738C0971FABF9E
JR: I was watching these last night wondering how I could get them down on my PC so that when they disappeared I’d have them …Bless you!
Mia: If those comments made on another site bothered you so much, why spread them around to every other fansite? Instead of spending your time on that, go volunteer at a children’s charity or a nursing home. You are wasting your time.
I’m with you, Awestruck!! iheartdesertrat&jackryan4da!!!! Thank you so much.
After several days of waiting and hoping, I guess we aren’t going to get the video of David singing Imagine in DC. Sigh.
TOfan -- dress shoes! Is this a first?
Sorry, I said I didn’t know where to put my comments. Obviously I am new here. I just knew Rascal comes in here. I was mad that he personally assumed and judged him, his dad and religion behind his back. I don’t care what he says about David’s music. It’s been always not what David wants, but what Rascal wants to hear.
But, although David himself clearly mentioned in an interview that his interest is in the opposite gender, Rascal brought up that issue again on a gay website, not believing what David said whatsoever, which made me so frustrated. I know there are many David bashers out there, but it is my biggest disappointment that self called ‘a huge supporter’ still spreads rumors in unpleasant ways, which hurts David and his family.
David would say “There is nobody I can trust….” OK, I am done.
Mia: So you are angry about something said, and you repeat it all over (and yes, I saw the discussion proliferated on FOD). Is that how you squelch something you think is a rumor? By repeating it and spreading it all over? Seems like you are just enjoying the controversy.
And I hate to ask, but are you stalking rascal or just eavesdropping on “gay sites” for titillation? Unless, of course, you are gay, and then my apologies.
Mia: what you supposed we respond? I don’t quite get it. I am NOT going to discuss what you said, coz I don’t want giving you any chance to stir up.
Thank you.
MIA
IF you read the post by rascal, you see he starts off the sentence with IF.
So, he can have his opinion and suppositions. We don’t have discussions here at TDC about David’s personal life unless he brings up a topic himself.
We discuss in depth his artistry and talents. We use full sentences. We debate. We are not prone to sugar coating and letting something slide when we disagree with a poster. Its how we roll.
Taking a post in pasting it on many sites will certainly dilute its context. Please respect others’ right to free speech?
Abrra
Abrra
hmm
I am spamming my name a lot lately.
Abrra the name spammer
I shouldn’t have said anything. I’m done. I lost my cool and I apologize to the other TDCers.
We have only 6 days until Del Mar. I want to know who is going, who is taking videos, if someone is going to get back online QUICKLY after the concert and report in to us. We don’t do well when we have long stretches of no David performances. Our addiction to David makes us all fidget and yearn and stuff. LOL
mia ~ What Rascal may have brought up on a gay web site was meant for that site, within that context, and should have been left there. If he had wanted them posted here, he would have done so himself. He obviously didn’t want them posted here where David or his family might be hurt by them.
You did.
jackryan4da . June 13, 2009 at 10:33 am .
What program do you use to rip the stripped videos?
Abrra
Abrra -- thanks for that: At TDC -- “We discuss in depth (David’s) artistry and talents. We use full sentences. We debate.”
Any comments that fall within the description above are welcome here.
Oh, I just got my TDC pins and my second t-shirt. (feeling fangirly about that).
I LOVE my TDC button!
Second tee-shirt???? Oh my, you are out-of-control, girl!
Mia,
After being admonished by several more-knowledgeable commentators that your topic was not suitable for this site, you went ahead and continued to expound on it anyway.
Your decision to ignore the guidelines of the site after being given several warnings has resulted in your comments being moderated.
dfLiz #157 -- Well, I bought the first one and it wasn’t made for a woman over the age of, oh, 12. LOL So, I’m giving it to my son’s girlfriend (teeny, tiny, skinny minny) and keeping the larger one for me.
JR -- Thank You X 1000 for the mediafire files! Greedy piggy here would like to know if the .wmv files (Angels and ALTNOY) can be converted to mp4s (like ATM)? I don’t know how to do so, and can’t play .wmv files on my iPod.
highervibe . June 13, 2009 at 1:09 pm .
I use a nice conversion program called Any Video Converter. There is a free version.
http://www.any-video-converter.com/
Turn off your anti- virus to download it, or it may be blocked. Turn anti- virus back on when you have it working. I bought the paid version and am very pleased with all the options for conversion.
Abrra
I made a merry go round. Sayreville, DLG. Note the consummate performer embodied in the collapse and the expression as he rises. Ahhhhh.
He makes me do these things.
Roll Call for Del Mar-
I am going with Lily (gma4)
River
River…sadly I am not going to Del Mar…too many other events planned at that time…
I have 2…front row seats…section 3…which is in front of the stage to the right about where he plays the piano…
If anyone wants them…and I will sell for the regular ticket price…(but paid dearly for them, my fault I guess)…please reach me through the contact page…I will courier them to anyone in time for the concert…
SB
JR, thank you SO MUCH for the Samurai Cook Off videos!! David is such a joy to watch no matter what he is doing!
Marlie #152, no need to apologize at all. You are great!
See you all later. A full day ahead.
Angelica #162…Those are the most mystifying moments in his history of singing that I have seen…It would be interesting to have people’s take on it as I am at a loss for the words…Deep in his musical thoughts with passion and emotion, expressed in the most musical way…my guess.
I apologize if the iheartradio videos have already been discussed, but I just got to see them today (big thanks to desertrat & jr4da) and I’m blown away.
Angels alone is pure poetry. The whole thing.
From David writing “David Archuleta Stripped” on the blackboard (talk about getting our attention, lol)
to the camera floating above the crowd like an angel watching, listening
to those hands gliding over the keys
to the screens glowing like fireflies
to the soft,smoky rays of light
to the joyful face of Everyfan
to the faraway look in David’s eyes
to the magnificent, magical loveliness of That Voice
… it’s like a beautiful dream, come true.
Think I need some air.
TOFaN 167…..SIGH. Just when I think I can’t fall in love with David any more, this week we get the Fanpack and the stripped songs and ethereal videos. Your description is perfect. Yeah, he strips our emotions bare.
TO Fan.. believe me, to be there and see the joy in David’s face was unforgettable. I had wondered about the bigger cameras and now I realize we were part of something very special. He, however, paid no attention to anything but his people and his singing, as always. He said it was one of his very favorite performances and we all felt so glad to be a part of that.
Came home to the links of the stripped David (haha) via TOfan with many thanks to JR and desertrat… absolute bliss after a long day.
I appreciate so much the words of my fellow TDCer’s to describe David. The Voice with it’s “enormous subtlety of phrasing, the sleek charcoal tone, the hunger and yearning that opens caverns of emotion.” thanks Rascal ((hug)). I can never put it into words, so glad that others can.
Angelica #162, eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
TOfan#167, no air on this David ride….he takes our breath away.
Del mar roll call,,, teee heee
My daughter and I!!!!
Del Mar! Here I come. Just me, husband can’t make it from Geneva.
Marlie, Sorry, I don’t have a video camera, and not a good photographer anyway.
Del Mar..oh yeah! My sis, her Daughters, mr brother & his wife and I are all going to David’s concert. So excited! Can’t wait!
BTW, Jeff tweeted about guitars on order for David & Daniel…hmmmmmm, wonder if Daniel’s is a bass guitar???
MY brother, not mr brother…We are on a first name basis!
SB#166
Mystical? David does go there while on stage at times, but that signature collapse of his is something he has done at practically every performance of that song on tour.
You do it once, it’s mytical. You do it every time and it is performance art at its best. That’s my take on it and why I said he makes me do these things, because he absolutely blows me away with his skills. I have to keep watching to take in how incredible he is. He is acting out *not letting go*, by dropping and hanging suspended by just his grip on the mic stand. His limp body portrays a visual of how exhausted he is with the struggle as does the passion and determination on his face as he rises to do battle again. I will say it again…David Archuleta is a genius.
TOfan#167
I have to wait till I get home from work to watch the stripped videos. Your description is making my anticipation much more intense. I saw the pic of the blackboard on another site, but I didn’t know it is David’s writing and they filmed him at it. I will have to be content to repost your description instead, which deserves another read.
“From David writing “David Archuleta Stripped” on the blackboard (talk about getting our attention, lol)
to the camera floating above the crowd like an angel watching, listening
to those hands gliding over the keys
to the screens glowing like fireflies
to the soft,smoky rays of light
to the joyful face of Everyfan
to the faraway look in David’s eyes
to the magnificent, magical loveliness of That Voice
… it’s like a beautiful dream, come true.”
You torture me. Thank you.
SF…check your email please…a small gift awaits you…
SB
TOFan, oh YESSSS. The stripped vids truly are simply TMTH! PHEW!
…speaking of which, omg, imagining David doing anything from Joni’s “Blue” album gets me all *shakey.* I’ve imagined him singng “River”, too. MANY TIMES. It’s just that pesky “… loved me so naughty, made me weak in the knees” line that might pose a lil itty bitty problem. LOL. But HEY, who KNOWS. He names that album among his all-time faves (mine, too!) — maybe he WOULD sing it, “naughty” and all. =:O Seriously, if he ever performed/recorded that song… it could possibly kill me. Daid. Jez sayin’.
ps- this thread is so full of stuff to blither about I can’t even pretend to START. Just {{{rascal}}} SO happy to see/read your post. David is the maestro of the ballad … and much, much MORE!
*fluffing pom-poms* \o/
Valbraz #123
“Go The Distance” sounds beautiful in Spanish too! It’s a lovely melody. Can’t wait for David’s version. It will outshine all the rest, as always,
I’m so excited about the Stripped versions of the songs from the PC Richards show. Dawn65 you were so right that night, when you said that “Angels” was David’s best one to date. Wish I had been there, that magical night. TOFan #167 Loved your description!
We haven’t forgotten about the campaign to have David sing the full song “One”. More details to follow very shortly. Get your letters ready!
ABRRA -- no software. I read the source codes LOL
MARLIE & THE OTHER IE-USERS — By default, IE temporarily stores media files played online into a temporary folder. This means when you played the Y100 files in full, your computer already saved stand alone files of them.
To look for the files,
1. From TOOLS, click INTERNET OPTIONS
2. Click SETTINGS under the BROWSING HISTORY tab
3. This will bring you to the Temporary Internet Files & History Browsing window. Click the VIEW FILES button
4. This should bring you the TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES windows. If you sort the files by size (largest to smallest), the video files should come up 1st.
5. Drag the video files to your PC/laptop -- voila, you have the files already.
rascal-
this thread-
beebee177- ♥. Can I take that as a submission for the Songs Series?….
HIGHERVIBE #160 — I made sure that the most popular media types are in there (mp3, mp4, wmv) so everyone can enjoy them
Please tell me you see the mp4 files in my mediafire?
Hey everyone! Just checking back in for the latest. Thanks for the vids!
BEBEREADER -- David singing the full version of ONE will be the end of me… can’t wait LOL
happpyyyyy♥♥! Yes you may take that as a submission. I have so many of them I can’t even begin. It would be a spam-o-rama if I started.
jackryan… I’m with you (and bebe) on “One”, too. *thud!*
*waves to bebe!*
btw, HG, I really love your ZG vid!
annnnnnd …
marlie (89) YES!!
“He doesn’t need to give up the rest, just make that a kind of “signature exclamation point” in his career.”
amb4dja, (111) what a GREAT post. And “That undeniable VOICE and his infectious, authentic spirit, which absolutely distinguishes David Archuleta is irrepressible and will happily keep keepin’ it real, no matter who “gets it” and follows along…” YESSSSS
emmiegirl, (125) you summed it all up for me perfectly. David is the real deal and the complete package like nobody else. Can’t say it enough. “Who out there truly compares? And he is 18 freaking years old!”
JR #179 Wow, thank you. I use Firefox, but now know I can switch to IE and follow your guide. I had no idea!
Del Mar roll call
Will be attending with daughter, granddaughter and granddaughter friend.
SandyBeaches….so sorry that you’re not going to make it.
dja -- how old are the grandaughter & her friend? When my grandaughter (almost 4) heard I was going to a David concert, she demanded to go. Unfortunately we’re on opposite coasts, though I will be on the east coast near the end of tour. All the decent seats in DC are gone except nosebleeds to the right. Not sure my son would allow her to go, anyway.
fandaforeverti48 -- granddaughter and her friend are 12. They love David.
I have a 4 year old granddaughter who listens to him all the time and says he’s stuck in her head….lol
But she’s to young for me to take… bathroom breaks and all.
My daughter is the mother of the 12 year old…she’ll deal with that. Do I sound selfish?…..lol
MARLIE -- i suggest that you don’t drop FireFox cos in terms of security and facility, it is still a better browser. I actually keep IE just for THAT purpose LOL.
FANDAFOREVERTI48 -- 4yo demanding to go with you to see David — how adorable is that!
GUYS -- By the number of TDC’ers going to Del Mar, it is turning out to be a TDC gathering. Hope to see some videos of you guys!
Do you know the way to Del Mar?
Yep, my daughter and I will be attending.
Rascal, you make my brain hurt and I say that with much respect. After rereading and thinking, I have to say that I love all of David’s music so far but is does seem to be his ballards that I connect with most (it was Imagaine that drove me to the internet), that move my soul. I have already lost count of the number of times I’ve listened to that Prayer of the Children video. Beautiful doesn’t really describe it. Just love him!
marlie7 #89, signature closing ballard FTW!
amb4dja #111, welcome, great post.