Hey Baby, Let’s Go to Vegas!
Adventures With Wheat Bread and Apricot Trees

I had no idea how much fun I’d have at the Las Vegas Demi/David show. The miracles that have usually surrounded David events in the past were back in full force. I have missed them. Let’s just say I needed it. A lot.
Las Vegas is far from my favorite place. 116 degrees of baking Fahrenheit heat beating down on you is a case in point. But David was opening for Demi in that city, (even though no one would know it if they looked at the marquee in front of the Orleans where his name was conspicuously absent) so with family and friends, I piled into the car and 207 replays of “I Wanna’ Know You” and “Zero Gravity” later, we were there.
The concert: he REALLY brang it! When you think you’ve seen him at his best, he digs deeper and pulls out more. I don’t know how he does it. I want to listen to Vegas Barriers every day for the rest of my life. Apologize made me cry. I couldn’t keep track of the new riffs and runs he threw into every song. He charmed the pants off of the Demi mom/daughter combo who started out his set sitting with their arms and legs crossed, which progressed to mom tapping her toe and bopping her head, which progressed to her taking pictures of David with her mega-camera, which progressed to both of them singing full out every word to CRUSH at the end. Bring it David, bring it!! And I jumped with The Princess to Zero Gravity.
But first was the VIP experience. Can I just say, David is a charmer, pure and simple and I get the distinct feeling that he totally knows it? Sure, he likes to pretend he’s just a spacey, weird kid, but I have no doubt that he owns and delights in his ability to make people happy whether he’s singing, taking polls of the audience or rhapsodizing over wheat bread. The boy is entrancing and irresistible and delightful and completely fascinating all at the same time.
He told us it really wasn’t very ‘heat-ey’ outside except the wind was blowing and sucks every last bit of moisture out of you and makes your skin itchy. He polled the audience numerous times about numerous things, but then finally sang Heaven and Crazy. I just want to know one thing: David, what are you thinking about when go to that place where it all comes out in a blaze of gorgeous sound and glorious emotion? I really really REALLY want to know. Because that ability to communicate soul-to-soul is not just about raw talent. It’s about who you are as a person and how much you want to give to your audience. And you do it at the drop of a hat. I think the word I’m searching for is GAHHHH! But I really want to know.
Heavenly music over, souls touched and tears shed and it’s time for the questions. Did I mention that both my friend Mary and I were chosen to ask a question? What are the chances? I mean, really, what are the chances? Apparently I let out a scream when my number was called – which I was sincerely hoping was correct, because I didn’t have my glasses on and I had to rely on our new friend John to tell me what my ticket said. But since no one tried to take my spot when we went up to the front, I’m assuming he was correct.
First up, a sweet girl wanted to know about the car-chasing incident with Jason Castro someone tweeted about the evening before. She asked David what happened with the fans last night and he diplomatically said ” I don’t know, I wasn’t paying attention.” Really. Just like that. “I don’t know. I was talking to someone else.” Then, realizing this was sort of a lame answer, he started talking about what he ate with his buddies. Turkey burger on wheat bread.
Outside of his singing, the most passionate we ever hear him get is when he’s talking about food. Gotta’ love that in a man. So it shouldn’t be a surprise to us all when he gives a little moan at the thought of the taste of wheat bread. What can I say? I’ll bet the majority of the people in that room wished they were a piece of wheat bread right about then. Someone asked him to write a song about wheat bread, but he said he would have to write about wheat fields because it would be more romantic, but even if it became someone’s wedding song, he would always know it was really a song about wheat bread. White bread – ugh. Stretch-ey and foam-ey. (Lots of -ey words. Like the acoustic-ey set he wanted to do at his solo concerts and what should he sing.)
My friend Mary was up next. Beautiful voice, 7 months pregnant, inspired David to sing a little Earth,Wind and Fire about her due date in September. Sweetness overload. Her question was could she sing with him and he complied. After going through a little comedy routine worthy of Victor Borge at the piano, he found the starting chord and off they went. We cheered and clapped and David said “Hey that was good! I’ve never sung with a fan before!” He continued to charm, the audience loved it and it was PRICELESS.
Then it was my turn. I want to say that David looked at me and said “Hey mom, I’ve missed you! Did you bring organic cookies?” but he didn’t. He did say “Hey, how are you?” with a smile and I knew he recognized me, so I really can’t complain. I proceeded to ask him a very self-indulgent question from Utah peeps “David would you mind singing your favorite Primary song?” Primary is the name of the organization the children ages 3 – 11 go to in the LDS church – like Sunday School. Singing is a major part of this experience. There are some beautiful hymn-like Primary songs that would make you all cry, but David, ever the diplomat, didn’t want to get too doctrinal in a non-religious setting, so sang the one we were all betting he would sing “Popcorn Popping on the Apricot Tree.” It comes complete with hand motions, which David did. Pretended again that he couldn’t remember all the words, so Utah peeps helped him out. Claps and cheers again.
But I wasn’t through. I told him I assumed that was just the warm up and would he please sing “Jesus Wants Me For a Sunbeam. “ He laughed, immediately started singing it and popped off his chair on the word “BEAM” which is exactly what he probably did when he was three. Discussion and hilarity ensued. Then he felt guilty and apologized for the “Mormon jokes” but I don’t think anyone minded. Thank you David for doing this. You have no idea how happy you made a lot of your fans.
Seriously, how great was that VIP? You ROCKED David, you ROCKED AND ROLLED. Charmer. Flirt. Stand-up comedian. GAHHHH.
To end the evening, my friend Karin summed it up best – “Let’s go eat and just talk about how wonderful David is for the rest of our lives.” My new philosophy in life. We did. And we will. We bet on love in this trip and came out Big Winners.
~ momjulee









I don’t know how anyone can not see the total goodness and complete love in David. It just oozes out of him, and he is so willing to share!
For the archu-novice: Open your heart a little, open your mind a smidgen, look at that beautiful expressive face and most of all just listen. You’re right. David doesn’t even have to sing, and we are all still captivated 10,000 times over.
“GAHHH” doesn’t even begin to cover the feeling!
Plus, who knew “wheat bread” could be romantic? Thank you, Momjulee for sharing this wonderful archu-experience. The questions were lovely, and I’m sure very appreciated by David. You reminded him of his home and first love.
Hi Momjulee,
I don’t post here very often, but just had to drop in to say thanks for sharing every delicious detail of your VIP and concert experience! It was a terrific read, and I am now more determined than ever to get me the heck to one of these VIPs, cause these fan encounters with David are PRICELESS!!
So happy for you!!!
Chicago was great last night! We didn’t do VIP, having saved that for the smaller solo venue. I got some photos and vids that I’ll post when I get back home.
Anyone knw anything about Grand Rapids?
I had to Google the “Popcorn” song having not grown up in that tradition. Here’s a contemporary version of it (haha):
Freo, I get the feeling the Grand Rapids thing was a big tease. (I hate to be so pessimistic)! Ever the optimist, I am holding-out in dire anticipation for this one. It would be my last chance for a VIP this summer.
Angelica, your videos show a tenderness for David that can’t be denied. I appreciate the way you project that tenderness in all your David creations!
JR4DA, I wanted to thank you for all the David LOVE you show too. It is a great way to start the day watching and listening to the VOICE!
Momjulee, Great recap! You girls were blessed to be at that VIP. Seems the crowd knew how to ask the right questions. (you were able to get him to sing more than any other VIP!)I’ll always appreciate the “wheat bread” story. He is so REAL. Thanks for sharing your story with us. I felt like I was right there with you.
Momjulee,
I loved reading your VIP. Yes, I think he is very aware of his charisma. At the Lafayette VIP I attended, he held everyone effortlessly in the palm of his hand. Loved this:
Can I just say, David is a charmer, pure and simple and I get the distinct feeling that he totally knows it? Sure, he likes to pretend he’s just a spacey, weird kid, but I have no doubt that he owns and delights in his ability to make people happy whether he’s singing, taking polls of the audience or rhapsodizing over wheat bread. The boy is entrancing and irresistible and delightful and completely fascinating all at the same time.
On another note, I tried to upload to YT again this morning and surprise, surprise, they accepted the song this time! Thanks to all for the words of kindness. It is much better quality from YT and can be watched in HQ. Enjoy. I’m now going shopping for my trip to Archu World…eh…Disney World.
Hey guys! Just came from a welcome back NAREE get together and we had a blast! Naree is still high from all the VIP sessions she attended (6 to be exact!) And she is thankful to all Archies, TDC members, who helped her during her stay there. \
According to her, there was never a dull moment cos even when they were simply lining up and passing the time, just listening to all the David stories around her was fascinating. She felt the love of everyone. To those who met her, thanks for making her feel at home
She is already planning her next trip, would you believe! LOUISE, another Pinoy Archie will be leaving for the US next month and will be able to attend Atlantic show. Anyone here attending that one?
BTW, CHICAGO Tour Page is now complete with a number of HD HQ upclose vids available. Check ‘em out!
http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2009/05/chicago-il-july-24-2009
Brought this over from the previous thread as I didn’t realize there was a new post up..now I will catch up & read momjulee’s post..
Dear Angelica,
Your video is GORGEOUS! I said this before, I’ll say it again..you are a Master of David Videos, bar none! There are hundreds of wonderful tribute videos dedicated to David, but none capture the ESSENCE of David, how he transforms into the beautiful creature he becomes on stage..or during other “vulnerable” times. How do you do that? I know…it comes from deep in your heart & soul. You have found an outlet, a way to use how David makes you feel in a very creative and sharing way. I envy you your creativity, as well as your way with words! These gifts you give us are immeasurable! Thank you!
PS…I forgot to say, the song is beautiful and PERFECT! So perfect! David puts it all out there and he is vulnerable. So much so, that we all want to be his protectors. And we do thank him daily for “letting us in” as much as he can. I think, if he didn’t have an aversion to watching himself, that if he could watch these videos, he could start to understand the effect he has on us and why.
Momjulee:
Loved this line:
The boy is entrancing and irresistible and delightful and completely fascinating all at the same time.
David is such a study in contradictions, which apart from the VOICE of the century, keeps us constantly entertained.
Angelica! Your video is on Snarkeys~
Hi Momjulee! I read the recap of your VIP experience on your blog and loved it. So glad TDC brought it here as a feature article.
I agree with you on your thought that “David is a charmer, pure and simple and I get the distinct feeling that he totally knows it?” And YES! He is “entrancing and irresistible and delightful and completely fascinating all at the same time.” All perfect adjectives!! I love David Archuleta!!! (am gushing while I can! So difficult to do so in my non-cyber world without getting eye rolls and jabs…)
momjulee, had read your post on your blog, but it was great fun to read again (and thanks for that Wheat/whole wheat 101 lesson! lol).
Angelica, I’m with SF, amazing video. I hate to admit this but I don’t watch most of the fan vids anymore … nothing wrong with them, that’s just me. But yours are different somehow. They take those same pics and vids we’ve seen over and over and tell a story, and as we watch, we feel part of that story … this is my long-winded way of saying, you rock, girl!!!
momjulee (I feel strange caling YOU mom, since I’m old enough to be YOUR mom!
Anyway..I had already read your recap over at FOD..and I smiled the whole then as I did again today! Sounds as if David had a great time at the Vegas VIP with so many fellow Utahns. Best description of David is “L O V E” I think..since he brings it out everywhere he goes!
Cincy is having strong thunderstorms today. Must be the same ones that came through here (Louisville) last night. Some thunders rolled on for what seemed like several minutes! The roaring sounds just wouldn’t quit. Very strange!
Anyway..keeping David & his companions in my thoughts & prayers for a safe trip into Cincy…
See you all later! Have a great day!!
Ok I got some inspiration from a particularly enchanting “Barriers”. I heard the call of the Merry go Round in my head. Do not click this link if you are faint of heart or prone to hot flashes.
Abrra
momjulee: Thank you for sharing your concert experience and VIP encounter with us. I have yet to do VIP but if it’s like you described, I’m in for a real treat! *faints**
“…Because that ability to communicate soul-to-soul is not just about raw talent. It’s about who you are as a person and how much you want to give to your audience…”
We applaud, we cheer, we scream and David gives back tenfold.
But before this even occurs, David is generous and giving in every performance. That’s his style….raw honesty. He risks it all and lays his emotions down in right in front of us. This vulnerability is so compelling, you almost forget that he’s only 18 years old!
It’s no wonder that he has fans of all ages.
Abrra#14
HAHA
Archu-skin FTW!
Julee – Loved the recap! I read it the other day on your blog. But you left out the part about David asking “when is he coming?” (baby boy) I loved that so much for some odd reason!
Abrra:
I see you got your inspiration back. Just in the nick of time.
Abrra, #14 WOW, really enjoyed that! Whew! Is it hot in here??
Thanks all and thanks to Liz for editing it down. I just can’t use a few words when talking about David. The orginal blog was about twice as long and even at that there were still parts that were left out of course. He did ask Mary when ‘he was coming’ and I thought it was particularly sweet.
angelica…i just read in the FOD comments that you are the creator of the Praise the Vulnerable Man tribute vid. Is that true? I’d like to credit you properly but i believe it said “anette” on the copy I saw. And for some reason I can’t access the vid above. let me know and I’ll make the correction
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oooh! btw, angelica LOVED LOVED LOVED it!
Angelica,
This is the best one yet. Every word is David.
… and I vow not to take advantage.
{{{momjulee}}} SO happy to see this write-up here! I really should read this recap every, every day. lol. It’s like being there. What are the missing parts? Imma hafta run back to the original again. It’s like taking a running leap and landing on a big bouncy nutritious pile of Archu_world-o-wonder_whole_wheat_bread with a yummy home-made organic archu_vitamin pill cookie with apricots and popcorn on top! “David, what are you thinking about when go to that place where it all comes out in a blaze of gorgeous sound and glorious emotion? I really really REALLY want to know.” I do think with every passing day David MUST be becoming more FIRMLY AWARE of the POWER he has to DO what he DOES to us. Mustn’t he? Yes. Decidedly, YES. (Stop that, Mister Archuleta. No, don’t stop.) I’m guessing your archu_rewrite “Fields of Gold” /”Fields of Wheat” was not included because of length considerations, but, honey, LOL… it is faBOO! (“You’ll remember me… when your stomach says…it’s time to eat a sandwich…” ) LOL!
Angelica, your vids KILL ME. (and in a SUCH a GOOD way.) Oh, that outragously, corageously vulnerable man!
And, Abrra, Archu_Merry Go Rounds FTW!
I’m thinkin’ we need a merry-go-round WING and a fan vid WING in this joint. So much fun stuff. And speaking of all the fun stuff, JackRyan, you really do amaze me. EVERY DAY. The Vid Vault here is unbelievable. You are DA BOMB, BABAY.
I have watched (and watched and watched) gengen’s HD Chicago WFM! and MAN-O-MAN!! =:O Works for Me! has always been a particular fave of mine (I only have about 50 or 175 David faves…heh) and what has made it even more so is David’s progression with this HOT yet COOL, good-humoredly self-effacing while gently rebellious soulful guhroovitude. It scratches my archu_anticipatory itch in such a big way. He seem’s both so extra-comfortable and 500% in command in this particular Chicago performance. I’ve always experienced WFM! as a balance between easy-going soulful vibery (by which I mean viciously easy-going — like in “One”) and high powered archu_energy. Maybe it’s just me, but this particular performance melds the two vibes like buttah, baby — and like never before. Just LOVE it. *THUD!* It doesn’t hurt that gengen shot such a great vid. (Thank you gengen!) Now if he will just permanently slap that extended Reno WFM intro in there I could just go on ahead and officially die. (For the zillionth time.)
beebee – you say it like no one else can. And have me screaming with laughter at the same time.
“It scratches my archu_anticipatory itch in such a big way.”
How on earth did you think of that? Could be the best thing ever.(or evah)!
and abs – I’ve watched your MGR more than is healthy. Help me!
MomJulee…I particularly enjoyed your article because it made the VIP so very life-like. Maybe the articles do not need to be shortened as we have litle else to read actually that has not come from other sites.
Abrra…Thank you for that.
ANGELICA…We are not allowed to view your video in Canada! IF anyone can correct this please do or maybe it is posted somewhere else where we can see it…
betsy…I am sorry, there is no hope, but you are not alone!!!..
SB
catching up..
joymus – really enjoyed A Perfect Storm and this… “Inanimate lyrics and music notes become alive and meaningful as he interprets a song. As an audience member, you listen with your ears and understand the song in your heart by the time he is done.”
I remember the Masterclass Lady talking about Crazy and how she never understood that song until she heard him sing it.
Angelica – that video, you have rendered us all speechless.
You really do have this uncanny ability to show so clearly in your videos these minute details that seem to reveal so much about him. Every time you have a new one I think, this is my favorite video, and I am saying it again!
momjulee – read your recap on your blog. You are witty and wonderful and your observations are awesome and that you can remember all that and make us all feel like we were there and wishing so much that we really were…amazing!
and now beebee…I don’t know if you write like this about everything, or if it is just a certain someone that inspires you to create these insanely crazy wonderfully expressive words but, YOU ROCK! Loooove every word you wrote! I even have my own beebee file!
betsy – I cannot get off of that particular MGR either.
SB – hope you can access Angelica’s video, so much to appreciate!
Thank you for your article Julee! Did I hear there is a longer version of it somewhere? I really enjoy this site but mostly lurk.
Betsy
I may not be able to keep our appointment. I seem to be able to post after the page takes a long time to load, but i can’t stay connected to things like cellcasts or videos. It may be a local Comcast problem. Usually it takes a few hours to clear up. I shall keep trying……
Glad you all liked the MGR. I am surely going to Hell for it
Abrra
betsy things seem to have cleared up for now IMAGINE that!!
Abrra
SB – I can’t access the Youtube video either but Angelica first posted it under One True Media — I can’t find the thread she had it in. I think this is the link though. Hope it works because it is absolutely beautifully done.
http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=9333c7be503c3fbd1e7c35&skin_id=701&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=text_url
SB– I wasn’t able to access Angelica’s YT video either and I’m in Utah (some people do consider this a foreign country, tho’). I was able to see it last night in one media. It’s beautiful.
heh, Betsy & Emmiegirl… I think it’s safe to say my lil archu_vocab affliction is all David’s fault. He makes me act and talk funny. I am merely a fatally smitten, gobsmacked fan/victim.
stenocruiser, thanks for re-posting one true media link to “In Praise of the Vulnerable Men” Angelica, meant to say earlier, that Youtube link also told ME the vid as not allowed in my country (USA, thankyouverymuch) due to copyright restrictions.
For any who are inclined to make Videos, here is a tip: Upload a blank video with just the song as a trial balloon. If it doesn’t get rejected you are good to proceed with working on the full movie. I learned the hard way not to pour hours into a project only to have it restricted.
Abrra
Angelica: Your video is So Beautiful. From the very first scene, my heart was captured. There is so much tenderness in your video, and the song you chose goes with it so perfectly. It is addictive. I had to watch it over and over again! And I don’t know why, it makes me go back to watch David’s “And So It Goes” video many times again too!
momjulee: Loved how you called him out. “Can I just say, David is a charmer, pure and simple and I get the distinct feeling that he totally knows it? Sure, he likes to pretend he’s just a spacey, weird kid, but I have no doubt that he owns and delights in his ability to make people happy whether he’s singing, taking polls of the audience or rhapsodizing over wheat bread…..” Ha!
Eh, about his love for wheat bread….. well, when David makes a love song in the future, I would always wonder if he was really singing about his love, or his love for wheat bread!
Angelica, your video is absolutely gorgeous. I too was unable to get it on YT in my country. I live in Michigan. Thank you Stenocruiser for posting the Onetrumedia link.
Momjulee, your post and recap of your VIP session was so much fun to read. I have never been to see David live but you almost made me feel as though I had been there with you.
One day I will see him and feel more able to post and not just lurk although I enjoy lurking and all the vids etc.
I love it Angelica…all of your videos should all receive the highest praise.
Our own girl from Canada…Alanis…so very much in to her music like David. She means every word that she sings…
Thanks to all who found a way to retrieve the video for all of us foreigners…
Pittsburgh…are you getting ready for David’s solo concert?
SB
SB – I’m a foreigner too — fellow Canadian. Alanis sings her song so beautifully. We know she is a favourite of David’s — didn’t he go to her concert this year in California?
Angelica – Thank you for making that amazing tribute — the words and accompanying pictures simply capture David’s very essence. Kudos to you for doing that so well.
beebee, I enjoy all your posts. You have NO idea how timely todays was for me.
Laughter…so good for the soul! Thanks.
David is off tomorrow..wonder what he’s got planned besides church? Does he remember it’s supposed to be a DAY OF REST?
Good night everyone! For David..
Dear Lord,
Please take care of David. Watch over him, protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no to those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him unconditionally as we, his devoted Archangels do. Separate David from those who have agendas other than for his well being. Give him rest when he’s weary. Give him the stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms during this time on his journey. Keep David and and his voice healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born. And please Lord, give us, David’s forever fans, the wisdom to know when and how to do right by David. Open our eyes and help us in the way we support David so that it’s always in his best interests. May his positive and good Karma continue to attract those with positive and good Karma! May he continue to encounter goodwill and happiness! May he continue to be healthy and strong during this time in the summer tour with Demi. Keep David and his companions safe as they journey across this land of ours. Though we may be unworthy, we humbly pray. Amen
David, hope you have a good night’s sleep & sweet dreams on the road. Keep with you all our love, prayers and warm thoughts! We will always love you madly! If you are ever in need of help, tweet us an SOS and your Archangels will be there in a flash!
Contigo siempre con amor!
CINCINNATI Tour Page is up!
http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2009/05/cincinnati-oh-july-25-2009
Thanks to the speedy upload of emilyluvsarchie, we now have half of the show and she is still uploading. LOL, David has some issues with his sleeves.
I must say, David’s performance in Cincinnati was rather, ermmm… inspired. He was REALLY into it! See for yourself!
stenocruiser & SB, I could only watch the onetruemedia version of Angelica’s video too. And remember back when Ms. Morrissette started out as Ottawa’s cutsy-pie popstar “Alanis” marketed only to teens? hmmmm…
beebee, thanks for that Chicago WFM, I’d completely missed it! And I love your description: “David’s progression with this HOT yet COOL, good-humoredly self-effacing while gently rebellious soulful guhroovitude” … guhroovitude is right!!! I can’t stop watching it either. And are those actual dance moves I’m seeing?? *runs to watch again*
Jackryan – yeah those Cincinnati vids…inspired is a good word…uhh…all I can think to say is…WOAH.
TOFan….check out the Cincinnati one….he actually calls himself “ditzy” during his little intro…hehe
oops…lets try this again!
LittleM -- for sure! Esp MY HANDS -- gaaah!
Look that -- he is doing a territorial stance & hip swaying combo! DAID & SLAYED is me
And if there is any further proof that he BRANG it on:
He nailed the high note on ALTNOY -- which has been especially tricky and slippery for him in the previous venues.
I wonder what is so special in Cincinnati or that night …
yup….MY HANDS…..that one is a killer….all I can think watching these is…does someone have a little somethin’ somethin’ goin on in Cincinnati?
CINCINNATI TOUR PAGE is now complete!
http://www.thedavidchronicles.com/2009/05/cincinnati-oh-july-25-2009
Thanks to emilyluvsarchie! She even provided 2 extra videos — band intro & David’s sleeves issue LOL
Than there is a Concert & VIP recap posted at Snarkies by Chelsey
http://www.snarkyarchies.com/2009/07/chelseys-cincy-concert-recap.html
David was in tip top form – intense where it mattered, relaxed when needed. Great voice that night. LOVE THIS SHOW! Of course, I love the artist more
Good morning TDC
It’s nonstop studying for me right now, but I just had to stop by and take an Archubreak.
That Cincinnati video of My Hands?? Whoo-WEE! He most definitely BRANG it!
Just watching that left me exhausted.
Now I need a cigarette.
Ronald – bahahaahahahaha. A cigarette!
Hey, you will nail that bar. You know why I know? With such intense performance from David– and they will get more intense, right? – we will be needing a lawyer in this house soon!
I’m with you guys!! Did he have an extra dose of charm and machismo for breakfast today, HOLY COW!
That was a potent mixture of masculine subtlety and enlightened inspiration! idk if that describes it accurately, but whatever it was, it was noticeable and veeeery niiice!
(and using the sleeves for props! momjulee was right, Victor Borge, move over!)
stenocruiser#32
Thanks for reposting the link to my vid on onetruemedia. I deleted it from YT. Apparently I am the only one the link works for. I will repost with audio from a YT video of the song. That will probably do it. The present audio was ripped from her CD.
My Hands is good but beebee’s posting of Chicago Works for Me had my jaw dropping so often I looked like I was being worked by a mute ventriloquist. LOL. I even saw Abrra’s merry go round and raised her one better but refrained from posting. “I’m a good girl, I yam.” But seriously, what are we going to do with that boiyee???
Not that Abrra’s not a good girl. But my merry go round was…well let’s just say that hindsight is perfect.
BTW, if anyone is interested, photos from LA & Seattle brought to us by naree:
LA
http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/naree_07/los%20angeles%20photos/
Seattle
http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/naree_07/los%20angeles%20photos/Seattle/
Look at that profile: http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/naree_07/los%20angeles%20photos/Seattle/DSC_0108.jpg
Yup, ANGELICA – “what are we going to do with that boiyee???”
I’m tellin’ ya, we have ALWAYS BEEN SPOILED with the amazing videos and all, and having an extraordinary window into the story of David Archuleta as it unfolds… and I like to think I don’t take any of it for granted. But these performances the last two nights (and the GREAT vids OF them) to me are revealing something extra-special. I remember reading somwhere that historically, scientifically, if you will, evolution does not always happen gradually, but also in outbursts. Gradual progressions do occur, but then sudden LURCHES ALSO occur, busting through to a new level of development. Jez sayin’.
Once again, with these vids from the last two nights, I feel like a very, very tiny, and extreeeemely greeeedy little child with a HUGE bag’o'candy. I gotta go now.
::::drags bag off to room::: locks door:::
BEEBEE – nooooooooooooooo don’t lock your door. You may need CPR at some point!
Angelica, your video tribute to David was so lovely, the song so befitting. Even after a year, I still find it hard to believe that someone can be so transparent, so open, so real– so vulnerable. For some reason, he always make me feel like there is hope. I don’t know why, but David helps me to see the good in life, however small,in the mist of all that is bad. I don’t know why he has that effect upon me, but he does and your video captured that to me. Thank you.
Momjulee, thanks for recounting your wondeful VIP and concert experience.
JR, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for all that you do. TDC wouldn’t be the same without you.
JR – Please tell Naree, a BIG thank you for those pictures….
definitely captured his beauty and emotive spirit.
beebee, yes! That is still the only video I’ve seen from the last 2 nights, but you’re making me want to see the rest of them? Which ones would you especially recommend? Btw, I’m making my friend an “Enabler Disc” of all the best Archuperformances and adorkable moments that I can think of, and want to it populate it with utter fabulousness.
That theory you’re talking about I believe is called punctuated equilibrium. David himself tweeted that Chicago and Cincinnati went great. He knows something has changed, too.
Hey, it’s Sunday! That means there’s a new post on my blog!
http://ronaldsf.wordpress.com
Sorry it’s a bit boring this week, but it reflects my current zeitgeist.
JR #52, That’s exactly the motivation I need this week. Because pretty soon I might have to defend… myself! You never know what’ll happen!!
JR – just watched the MH video. And soon got lost in all of them. Of all that is holy. What happened!! He is adding things (pushing away motions!) and crazy comfortable! Forcing audience participation!
Beebee – I’m on my way too!
::::drags bag off to room::: locks door:::
Ronald, may I suggest a little WFY? Cincinnati style. If I can get the fist out of my teeth, I’ll be watching it again.
*Officially on vacation*
BETSY, my goodness Adam has grown so much! Much like our favorite singer, eh? I tell you, there must be something in the Cincinnati & Chicago water or wheat bread or weather that is making David hawter than hot.
GOBOYWONDER #59 – thank you for your kind words. But look at it this way: what else should I do? If I don’t share those vids with you guys asap – I will implode! Tee-hee
Okay – just watched Barriers. Every note is longer, every movement is more fluid – and that spontaneous grin!
What the heck happened in Cinci?
He gave it EVERYTHING. His voice was CRAZY good. He seemed so happy.
Feeling his oats.
JR – Our Adam will be 10 months old next week! Seems like just yesterday I had his newborn pic up as my avi! Now he is walking around the furniture and trying to let go. Baby steps.
JR – it took me 10 minutes to get through My Hands. Why do you suppose that is?
am officially over the edge.
Just saw DLG Cincy.
It’s populated with incredibly nice – ummm – moves.
1:40, 1:46, and something that I like at 2:26. There are more but I must do a bit more research. Further study.
Betsy who has taken Abrra’s spammer tiara
Good Grief!
David has gone through yet another evolution, to pun on my last post, while BEEBee and Betsy were locked in a room watching his last vids and eating candy -lol!. What the heck happened? Like JR said a lot of the high notes were slippery for him at certain venues, but man oh man – last night he was just sublime.
Every song got an extreme makeover. He experimented with new notes and riffs in unexpected places that just left me breathless in awe of his talent.
My only complaint? He has to do the same with his wardrobe. The distracting shirtsleeves behaved like the runaway scarf. Another habit he has picked up recently is the constant tugging down of the right side of his shirts or tees. It has gotten to the point where it is extremely noticable. People are even commenting about it on the YT vids.
I meant to add about his wardrobe malfunctions – it makes for cute moments but David is at the point of performing where NOTHING should distract from THE VOICE. It is just tooo good!
Good morning!
I just finished watching all the videos from Chicago & Cincy..and yes, David did bring it up a notch or two or twenty! WOW is all I can say. Looks like having a day OFF between venues really helped rest his voice. He was ON FIRE!
I have one complaint..On Crush..Does Kendra HAVE to do the background vocals for the Eeeya-eeya-eeya-eeya-eeyeeyaaay?? She is awfullllll! Or is it just me? She’s nice, she’s pretty. But she cannot sing, at least not with David. IMO.
David does his own background vocals for the most part via a vocal track which gives the songs a beautiful echo feel with HIS own beautiful voice.
Getting ready for Pittsburgh!! See you all later..have a great Sunday!
Freo – #4, That popcorn rap is a scream. Catching up a bit late here, but I remember that song fondly from my childhood (not the rap version haha!) To this day, when my sisters and I reunite, we tend to burst into the popcorn song, complete with hand gestures.
I watched all the videos from Cincy. They were truly outstanding in both video and, especially, audio, quality. I felt that i had was actually attending the concert.
When David sang “And So It Goes” Paula said that she felt that
David was a “storyteller”. Last night , for the first time, I felt that David was not only a great singer and great performer of his songs, but was, in the literal sense, an “entertainer”. It was “an evening with David Archuleta”. Everything flowed. It was not just a series of songs. Even the business with his sleeves seemed very real and part of the flow. He was comfortable, in charge, and interactive with the crowd, who adored him. His voice was magnificent Whatever direction his career goes, look for David to become THE must see live performer, and the hottest ticket in the biz. Last night was a taste of what is evolving right before our eyes. David needs to be the main performer on any show so that he has the time to do the encores that the audience craves.
This tour, although odious to many here, is winning David many new fans. David needs only to be experienced once to get someone “on board.” It is also honing his skills and giving him a chance to experiment. By the time his next CD comes out, his fan base will be much larger and his sales will skyrocket. That’s how you become a success in the music business.
Silverfox – I agree with your comments on the vocals. I especially like the latest performances of Waiting for Yesterday – all the echoey David background vocals, and the new spin he puts on the word “time” when he sings
I’m the one for you tonight
I’m the one for you forever
If it takes a little tiiiiiiiiiiime
gah!!!!!!!!!
SF, “I have one complaint..On Crush..Does Kendra HAVE to do the background vocals for the Eeeya-eeya-eeya-eeya-eeyeeyaaay?? She is awfullllll! Or is it just me?”
Nope, not just you. I noticed that live in Philly … she was completely flat (or “pitchy,” as Randy would say) … not sure why she jumps in there at all, the audience singing that part sounds better IMO.
Betsy, I’ve been stuck on Cinc. MH too … what the heck do they put in the water there?
BETSY, TOFAN – stuck on Cincy MH… see the “pain” I go through when completing the vid vault?! Tough job but somebody’s got to do it… bahahahahahahaha
The Chicago & Cincy, but esp the Cincy crowd got something truly special. ALL his numbers – am a lost for words.
bliss – “It was “an evening with David Archuleta”. Everything flowed. It was not just a series of songs. Even the business with his sleeves seemed very real and part of the flow. He was comfortable, in charge, and interactive with the crowd, who adored him. His voice was magnificent.”
That was exactly the feeling I got, and I kind of liked the sleeve issues, it was just real moments with real David. And the voice, and the changes, and gah!!! There was this undercurrent of another step taken on the self-awareness ladder.
And just a sidebar, his answers to a couple of recent VIP questions struck me…
“do you miss your pre-Idol life?”
“no”
He really is where he wants to be.
“what was going on when the fans were chasing you in the car?”
“I don’t know, I was talking to someone.”
These types of adulation really are of very little or no importance to him.
EMMIEGIRL – I quite agree about his recent replies during the VIP session. When asked where he sees himself in ten years: “…just being a successful artist and that kind of thing. Going farther in my career…”
That is a stark contrast to how he handled similar questions last year. Whereas before, his replies were tentative and even bordering on not even knowing when “this” will last, now he refers to a path, a direction, a tomorrow.
There is more confidence there. And the ooomph to say “successful” and “artist” in one sentence – about himself.
Last year, he did what Betsy’s Adam is doing now — “walking around the furniture and trying to let go. Baby steps.”
Well, our rawker babe did let go in Cincy last night.
JR4DA, {{{hugs}}} we do so appreciate the “pain” you go through on our behalf!!
emmiegirl, “There was this undercurrent of another step taken on the self-awareness ladder.” Perfect description. I’m not one to dissect videos but the sultry swagger-stroll in Cinc. ALTNOY from :45 to :59 is the stuff merry-go-rounds are made of! *hints*
Then at about :59, at “you’re with him now,” he does turn around and morphs into a smokin’ stomp of vengeance … 100% “in character,” bringing the song so fully to life you want to find that other “him” and smack him on DAvid’s behalf! lol
(And in all fairness to Miss kendra … she does do a lovely job on You Can
)
JR – love your analogy with betsy’s Adam!
and yes, “now he refers to a path, a direction, a tomorrow.”
TOfan – LOL!! and I can’t believe you mentioned that 10 sec slow swagger across the stage in ALTNOY! I noticed that the first time I watched that video and kept watching it over and over.
I can think of one way he could have solved the sleeve problem…
Mike – I like the way you think.
Another VIP answer:
But she asked what was the funniest thing that had ever happened to him on stage. He said it was in Tulsa during the AI tour, when Cook, as he quotes, “threw…. Some “things” at me!” The little girl didn’t get it, but we all did and were laughing.
Last year he seemed horrified by this.
He is thinking it’s pretty funny now.
Pretty sure he isn’t as easily shocked.
I can imagine he’s had a few offers by now.
Wonder what he thinks about that!
Hey all – spent the afternoon at the Rock & Roll Hall of fame today. I was standing around watching a video of Bruce Springsteen (on happy’s behalf) looking at the handwritten pages of songs they have displayed and who should walk right by me?
No, not David.
But Mike, Jerry and Dave. I got the chance to speak with them (in my low-key non-stalker way), and they said David was resting today, probably wouldn’t be out. Was doing a lot of recording in between concerts. Mike asked if I was going to the “meet & greet”, (I think he meant VIP), and I told him no, but that I would be at the VIP in AC. He said, “We’ll see you there!”. They were very nice, and didn’t seem to mind talking at all (they weren’t like, trying to get away or anything LOL).
So, that was fun.
betsy – yeah, the fact the he even brought it back up shows a HUGE leap!
**I don’t know, this whole evolution thingy might be too much for all of us, will there be anyone left!!
TOfan # 79
I ain’t good for much, but I can cut a mean Merry Go Round.
Here you go:
Archu-Stroll Merry Go Round
Abrra
betsy #182 You crack me up!
“I can imagine he’s had a few offers by now.
Wonder what he thinks about that!”
Offers? Pretty soon they will be begging him, unless of course that’s already happening.
Ahem.
Jeepers! What happeend in Cincinnati? It’s time to forget the talk about this tour not being in David’s best interests! Performing almost every night has led to where we are now…dynamite performances, confidence up the yingyang and, in short, a well-oiled and finely tuned David machine! Not to mention the exposure he’s getting and the new fans he’s picking up along the way. Smart move, this tour; of course, IMHO.
JR…Naree’s pictures are excellent! Please let her know how much we appreciate her sharing them with us. And JR a thank you is in order for you, too for your tireless efforts in arranging the tour pages on TDC.
With half the summer and roughly half the tour almost over, there’s only one week left to post your letter to David for him to sing the full version of the song “One” by U2.
Remember this? Of course you do.
JULY 31 IS THE CUT-OFF!
If we’re lucky, David may even sing it at a VIP or at one of his solo concerts this summer.
Let’s show him that we mean it!
Here’s the link to write your letter.
http://campaignforone.wordpress.com/
marlie – Hmmmm…you are cagey!! Forward thinker, very smart.
(and it almost worked!)
Abrra Cadabrra! Presto! Thanks maam!
Someone likes to Touch hands of fans:
Abrra
I’ve finally recovered from seeing David in Chicago. He was in great voice that night and looked amazing! It’s funny, he always seems to “dress up” a bit more when he’s in Chicago and seems to favor wearing a tie. Maybe he’s thinking “Blues Brothers” or something, all I know is he looked GAH!!!
To be honest, I’m not fond of David in arenas. I think they’re too big, too noisy and lack intimacy, and I look forward to seeing him at the smaller venues in Rockford and Milwaukee.
Beyond that, something was different for me watching David this time. I’ve been trying to put my finger on it and I think I’ve figured it out. For the first time I felt “calm” watching David. I don’t mean that I wasn’t excited to see him (I was the same hyper rooster I always am for days before his concerts), but this time I felt no tinge of anxiety about him performing as I have in the past.
Somewhere between The House of Blues and Friday night my perception of him has changed. I now view him as a professional entertainer, a “Pro” that can deal with vocal stress, equipment malfunctions, forgotten lyrics and personal issues yet still confidently deliver a fantastic,memorable performance. I don’t need to worry about these things anymore, he’s convinced me that he has everything under control. It was quite liberating.
I can tell you this, Chicago loves David Archuleta! Watching the audience respond to him, with huge smiles on their faces, arms waving over their heads, hundreds of colorful swirling glow sticks dotting the darkness of the arena, jumping, clapping and screaming for him was a huge thrill. Demi may have been the headliner but you would have never known it by looking at that crowd.
I have been watching Cinci vids and made a merry go round but I see Abrra has been here before me. haha. Here’s another one. He is just too sexy for his shirt, especially one in plaid. Whew! He is evolving into a very dangerous man. I did not sign up for this!
Angelica,
You are feeding my obsession quite nicely. I can’t talk about this one. Not in public, anyway!
Just know that I like it.
A lot.
Abs – where are you?
marlie #83, how cool for you! And nice to hear David’s resting (can hardly believe that, though).
Joner, great recap! no VIP?
… thanks, Abrra! … thanks, Abrra! … thanks, abrra!
TOfan – I’ve got front row seats at the Rockford show (GAH!!!!)and VIP in Milwaukee (Double GAH!!!)
This is a very cool concert series for me as I will be seeing him in three different settings…an arena, a theatre and another House of Blues-type venue in Milwaukee. It will be an interesting study of how David’s performances change in the different environments. I love the order that the concerts roll out for me too, with me actually meeting David at the last one.
I feel very fortunate to be able to see him so many times and I’ll remember this stretch as one of the best times of my life!
Marlie #83 – What a fun encounter! And you seemed to have handled it well since they “weren’t like, trying to get away or anything LOL.” Love it! Enjoy!
Bebereader #86 – I finally visited the “One” page and added my two cents. It was fun reading through all the entries. If he’s asking in VIPs what songs he should sing on the solo shows, “One” is an obvious answer.
I should be productive, instead I am doing this…
betsy -- the forehead conversation, watch the judge at the 1:28 mark:
httpv://www.youtube.com/user/justme120180#play/favorites/267/K6fKno0FVkY
sorry, hear it is
Emmie- Productivity is overrated.
Forehead touching FTW.
He’s been wowing them since he was wee one.
now, off to work.
Okay, this is weird, but my friend Carol and I went to another part of Cleveland for dinner – took a hotel shuttle. We are sitting in a window seat, eating dinner and guess who is walking along on the other side of the street?
No, not David.
But, yes, Mike, Jerry and Dave (and a woman who was not Kendra). So, I’m thinking this is weird, but they go along the street and I continue my meal. After the meal as we were getting in the hotel shuttle that was picking us up, I look down the street and there they all are getting into a cab.
I am not a stalker, I am not a stalker, I am not……
Angelica and Abrra!
You two are dangerous with those Merry-Go-Rounds of yours!
I feel like I’m running with a pair of scissors!
betsy #92
I am still having connection to the net issues. It comes and goes, I drop out a lot. Will have a tech guy come this week. /sigh
Abrra
My heart raced to see this in writing!
http://www.myidolnews.com/2009/07/david-archuleta-to-release-christmas.html
Going to bed early as I have a plane to catch for Pittsburgh tomorrow. I’m not sure yet if I’ll be taking my laptop with me. I’ll make that decision tomorrow. So I may not be in contact until I get back Wednesday night.
David will be performing a full set at the Byham and he hinted he has some surprises in store..and I cannot wait! It’s going to be an awesome show! And I was glad to hear he was resting today. But I guess his band didn’t feel the need to rest?
Good night everyone! For David..
Dear Lord,
Please take care of David. Watch over him, protect him from all harm. Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that is thrown in his path. Give David the courage and guidance to say no to those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround David with loving and supportive people who love him unconditionally as we, his devoted Archangels do. Separate David from those who have agendas other than for his well being. Give him rest when he’s weary. Give him the stamina to sustain his hectic pace. Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective arms during this time on his journey. Keep David and and his voice healthy & strong as he fulfills his Destiny which was written in his Book of Life before he was born. And please Lord, give us, David’s forever fans, the wisdom to know when and how to do right by David. Open our eyes and help us in the way we support David so that it’s always in his best interests. May his positive and good Karma continue to attract those with positive and good Karma! May he continue to encounter goodwill and happiness! May he continue to be healthy and strong during this time in the summer tour with Demi. Keep David and his companions safe as they journey across this land of ours. Though we may be unworthy, we humbly pray. Amen
David, hope you have a good night’s sleep & sweet dreams on the road. Keep with you all our love, prayers and warm thoughts! We will always love you madly! If you are ever in need of help, tweet us an SOS and your Archangels will be there in a flash!
Contigo siempre con amor!
Marlie, you most certainly are an “accidental” stalker lol!
Taking a break from tca voting to post this for your enjoyment.
(i am taking a break)
unbelievably, I think he was in the early stages of his paralysis:
*waves to Marlie*
Timing, as they say, is everything!
Any more sightings? LOL
Have a blast at the show!
Hey! Just bursting in with a random question…
I just noticed the blue band in the Grand Prairie photos:
http://www.snarkyarchies.com/2009/07/shirt-is-back-gonna-do-it-again.html
I don’t know how I missed it before! Anyway, I remember a long time back that there was some talk about a ring he wore that had some significance, but I don’t remember exactly and hadn’t seen it. Anyone know what’s up with the bright blue band?
Abrra #88 you are SO funny! But I REALLY enjoyed that!!!
David at 13 years old.
So gifted.
Exquisite.
Check out that smile at the end.
Hey Guys~
Tech question for you….does anyone know a sneaky way to download “Save the Day” into my iTunes? I want this song on my iPod, and to share it with my friends. I know it’s not officially released, but, are there any other methods to get the song into my playlist?
P.S. According to a message left on him myspace, David went to church today in Cleveland
This is NOT from this tour’s M&G but it is still from Cleveland and I dunno if you guys have see it. But am going crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy over the length of time they spent with David!
Most stories on M&G nowadays say it is always hurried. When? when? When will this thing ever happen again?
momjulee…
Can I just say, David is a charmer, pure and simple and I get the distinct feeling that he totally knows it? Sure, he likes to pretend he’s just a spacey, weird kid, but I have no doubt that he owns and delights in his ability to make people happy whether he’s singing, taking polls of the audience or rhapsodizing over wheat bread. The boy is entrancing and irresistible and delightful and completely fascinating all at the same time.
My thoughts exactly….VIP was exactly this and I believe he knows it….
Abrra and Angelica… you two are having way to much fun…
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed and enjoyed….lol
Joner…I’m going to need smelly salts!
bebe…acousticy performance surprise … imagine One in its entirety…hoping and dreaming.
SF…Have the greatest time!
oops…last post should read “according to a message left on HIS myspace”
smelling salts…not smelly salts….lol
Good evening, yall…
If any of you are interested in participating in the discussion on what can be done to improve the official DavidArchuleta website, you’ll want to check out this post from Soundscene at IDF over here:
http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=620966
It also sheds a little light on what has been going on behind a particular fansite, not with the intention with of fanning flames but to try to spur constructive dialogue. It’s worth checking out.
LittleM
I use You Tube Clip Extractor. I downloaded it online (google it?). It was free when you “take advantage of” one of their discount offers. I joined a book club – small committment!
Anyway, an “orange wheel” sits on my toolbar and I can click on it whenever I want to rip the audio from a You Tube video. It puts it right in my itunes!
So I would just search “Save the Day” in YouTube and it’s mine!
It’s very cool and very simple. I now have all kinds of music at my disposal.
Hey Ronald When’s your Bar Exam? I think what was said is true…we will need a lawyer in here sooner than later!
thank you rocketdog!!!!!
I will try this. One thing – is this program virus-free? I’m always so paranoid about downloading things I’m unfamiliar with…
Speaking of which…Ronaldsf….can you expand a bit on the fan site issue you mentioned? I’m so curious to know what you’re referring to, but I don’t go to Idol Forums anymore since I got a nasty virus there once!
LittleM I have not had any problems with viruses related to YouTube Clip Extractor (or any at all.) I use Nortons. Good Luck – and enjoy!
Ronald Just saw on your blog: this Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday! I’ll be sending you positive energy – and I’m sure I won’t be alone.
Brings back (fond) memories of the CPA exam, many years ago!
LittleM,
You can download using the following link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zjn32qijujj
Hope it works.
Quiteblanc
Thank you Quiteblanc, I think that worked!!!
I’m making my friends an ideal Archie CD…I think they will love him like we do when they hear all his best songs!
Rocketdog, yes, this Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Three days of grueling typing and bubble-filling at a breakneck speed. I hear they have sentries in the bathrooms to make sure you don’t cheat.
LittleM, here’s the initial post from Soundscene over at IDF if you don’t want to venture there. I don’t want you to catch cold!
My thing is websites. I used to be a web designer before I went to law school. I know how important official websites are for any business, especially an artist in the music business. We’ve been discussing things in a different thread about how David’s official website isn’t very good. And I don’t think some people know the full extent of who is running it or what is going on. I do know that a lot of people have figured it out, though, and I’ve been contacted by many who are very upset and hurt by what has gone on, and who no longer have the kind of trust in who is leading David’s career, or in their fellow fans, as they used to.
So there’s two reasons I’m making this post. The first is to tell you what I wish for David’s official website. There’s nothing that we, as fans, can actively do to make things change, but I think that we can at least say what we want. Whether that results in change is up to the people making the decisions.
The second reason is to get things out in the open. The secret that was supposed to be a secret is a really poorly kept secret. People are confused because nobody bothered to tell us the truth. Maybe it was because they thought we couldn’t handle it (insert Jack Nicholson “A Few Good Men” reference here). Maybe it was because they thought we would be upset (and not so shockingly, a lot of people are). Maybe it was because they didn’t have enough respect for the rest of us to just come out and be truthful. But since people have gotten hurt by this in ways that I can’t go into (because it’s their story, not mine), I’m taking a pretty big risk and writing this out, for the public to see. I’ll probably be hated by some (especially those involved, or people close to those involved), and I may get people saying I’m “jealous” (and my cry that I am not may not serve to change their minds), but I’m doing it anyway. Only time will tell if this is the right decision, but I don’t have the privilege of hindsight at this moment.
Amy from Snarkies is helping to run David’s official site (Azoff technically runs it, but Amy gets access to David no other fan gets because of her position). It’s why she disappeared from Snarkies. And she didn’t tell the fans why, she didn’t make a statement, she didn’t say goodbye. Any of the things that could have mitigated some of the hurt or distrust, she didn’t do. And now the hurt and distrust are spreading much farther, much faster than I knew. She hurt some very kind people in the process (again, not my stories). I don’t like the situation partially for the fact that some very good fans–fans that rally other fans, fans that are important to the fan base, fans that work for charities in David’s name, that work on other fan sites, that speak their minds on message boards–are very frustrated and upset over what has transpired. And some are even close to the point of ditching their online presence altogether (not ditching David, but ditching the roles that they have carried within this fan base). If that happened, I would be very saddened.
What we have in return for this pain is not any more than what we had before. Amy gets more access to David to do backstage videos. And as amusing as David is, I would give up those videos in a heartbeat if it meant that the turmoil brewing under the surface of this fan base would go away. Somebody else–somebody professional who is not a fan and who doesn’t have Amy’s particular history in this fan base–can make those videos. Favoritism and special access and privileges never work in a community like this one. Jobs born of friendship over qualification rarely work out. I’ve been through this with a fan base before, and it hasn’t ended well. David needs his hard core fans because they’re the ones that are at the center of his fan base. They’re the ones that rally people to vote for TCAs. David can win a surfboard (or 2 or 3) not because he has more fans than the Jonas Brothers, but because of these hard core fans. David raises tons of money for charity because it’s these fans that carry on the torch that David has lighted. If we lose that because of poor decisions being made in secret (and not so secret), then that will be very unfortunate indeed.
I know that many of you aren’t aware of the extent the hurt has spread so may not see this as a big deal. Up until yesterday I wasn’t as aware either. I am now. I’m very saddened by it. I realize that this post seems like I’m “calling out” Amy, but believe me when I say that I don’t believe that she is all to blame for what has transpired–my goal is not to vilify her. But if I didn’t say her name, everything would remain ambiguous and uncertain, and I’m tired of ambiguous and uncertain. Things shouldn’t have been ambiguous and uncertain to begin with.
I blame those who have made the decision to give her the choice to do this. I blame those who have decided that favoritism is the way to go. I blame those who don’t understand the importance of professionalism. I blame David’s management. And I don’t think these people are “bad” people; but I do think that poor decisions were made, and that this whole situation was handled very poorly.
Now onto the official website itself. It’s a terrible official website, in my opinion. It looks like a fan site, and one that is not run very well, either. There’s no place to find out who David is. There’s no up to date information. It’s a complete eye sore. And the only good thing about it is David’s blogs. The behind the scenes videos are great to those who don’t understand the story behind them. But I’ve been told by more than one person that they are tainted because they do know who filmed them. Bad feelings should not accompany anything on an official website.
My wish for the official website is that it is run by professionals. A web management company whose sole job is to design and manage business websites. The cost could be covered by a paid-for portion of the website (a fan club). The free portion will have all you need to find out about David, plus merchandise, news and some videos (vlogs, for example). The paid-for portion will have message boards, chat, more media, opportunities for free concert tickets or VIP passes, etc. Team Archie could gift memberships to those who can’t afford it.
And fans can have a say in how that fan club is run. Through an open selection process that could happen once or twice a year, “fan leaders” will be selected. They would not be given special privileges, but would only take on their job for the fun of it. They can post any news they find, fan videos, fan encounters, etc. The fan base will be aware that this is coming from other fans. The free portion will have the verified news. The professional web manager can cull the most important and verified news from the fan club portion for the free news. This will alleviate the professional web managers job of attempting to find news, or for David’s management from having to keep in constant contact.
The best part of all this — it’s open and honest. No more secrets. No more guessing games. No more favoritism or special privileges for the chosen ones who happen to become friends with those around David. And we get in exchange a useful website.
I agree with those who say that there’s nothing new happening right now, but I don’t believe that’s a reason why the official website should be kept in the state that it is in. People are searching for David–they should be able to get what they’re looking for.
I also want people to understand that I don’t want to run the official website. I don’t need special privileges. I don’t even stay after concerts to wait for David to come out. I don’t need to meet David tons of times. I love David for his personality and his music, but I am a fan, and I don’t aspire to be anything more than that. So if you believe I am writing this in jealousy, just keep that in mind.
So, if anybody has actually gotten through all of this, I admire your willingness to read something this lengthy. Now it’s up to you to speak your mind. It doesn’t have to be of the same opinion as mine, and some may not think I made the right decision by posting this. But if that’s the case, I will be just one of many that have made bad decisions in dealing with this fan base. I hope, however, that this wasn’t the wrong decision.
Note: Since this seems to be necessary, as far as I am aware, the people who currently run Snarkies have nothing to do with any of this. Whether that will alleviate any problems this post may cause them, I don’t know.
If any of have things to say, it might be more appropriate to address the bulk of your comments over at IDF…
LittleM,
Here’s what I found to get YouTube videos. It’s very, very simple. It gets you MP4 files, which I think are iPod, etc. compatible:
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/04/download-youtube-videos-as-mp4-files.html
Oh, shoot.
I’m actually second-guessing whether I should’ve reposted the IDF post here. The downside of doing that is that we don’t benefit (or participate) in the discussion around it.
Admins please feel free to edit it if you think that makes sense.
Okay, no more stress for me! (At least from this!) I’m sleeping now!
I am 75% through the thread. Very interesting. Going back in.
ronald – thank you for posting that for me. What a weird situation! Here’s what I don’t understand – why couldn’t Amy just tell the fans over at Snarkies what she was doing? “Hey guys, guess what, I can’t believe it but they offered me a job at the official site! Now I can update you from there! I’ve loved being a part of Snarkies – it will always have a special place in my heart.” Done and done…
I don’t get it???
As it is, those videos she’s been putting together, IMO, aren’t that great. Maybe partly because of the way the audio cuts in and out to cover her laugh…I always thought there was something weird about those videos. David’s vlogs are better.
betsy please tell me if there are any other very interesting tidbits….too afraid to hop over to IDF!!
oops Admins if you don’t want this conversation going on here feel free to delete my posts…
Hey Ronaldsf Good luck on you bar exam!! Well I appreciate the link because I wondered what in the world happened to Amy. I did not lose sleep over it mind you but it just seemed like she fell off archuworld, and heavens knows as much as we all love David, I wondered how one did that,
Angelica: I sent a request through the contact page. Joynus & I would love to try to hook up with you in Orlando at the concert. We are not doing VIP and still checking for the best seats. Very good ones available, but waiting a bit longer to see if Demi’s vip front row are released.
Little M: I agree-110%
ronaldsf #126
I was there and posted my opinion.
I long to see David surrounded by trustworthy professionals – no fans or family doing what should be done by experts. And that’s my opinion. Also, according to comments there, David turned down an invitation to perform at TCA because of the tour. Now, how can a show be more important than a live performance on tv? That’s the kind of ‘management’ that makes fans impatient.
Anyway, I have Save the Day which I downloaded from a link Rascal had posted, I guess. Love that song and hope it makes his sophomore pop album.
agree with the part about disclosure- Not exactly something that could be kept under raps anyway…However I thought the videos wre cute. If someone has not yet done it, they should make a video with all David’s cute hand motions….eating, driving, describing the arena, describing writing a song and where he gets stuck,,,, He is just so darn visual. Love it.
Little M,
Please just let me know if you need other mp3 and mp4 files. I usually convert YouTube files right away, and I can upload to Mediafire for you to download.
Have fun.
Quiteblanc
betsey#64 – “He is adding things (pushing away motions!) and crazy comfortable!”
Love those “push away motions”. Seems to me there was ONE (as in memorable) in Angelica’s slo mo video. GAH…..
Richard answering question about the Christmas album at IF thread at 2:53 am:
“Why is that bad ground? Jeff has a lot to do with the album. He is doing great with it, BTW. I mean, he found me… LOL.
I’m kidding, kind of.
We all need to give him a little bit of slack. I’m not going to say he doesn’t make mistakes, but so do I, and so do you. We are all learning and doing the best we know how. In time, we will see if we have learned fast enough. It’s the same for all of us.”
——————–
Exciting night, to put it mildly.
Quiteblanc – thank you! Do you happen to have the Japanese album Crush remix, and/or the ALTNOY dance remixes?
Valbraz – OY! You know, I don’t think it really makes sense to have people producing his album that are “learning.” Call me crazy! Ahh…to think this of all days, HG goes on vacay!
No wonder David is so zen-like…he has to be, with all these drama-stirring people around him all the time!
LittleM,
Ain’t that special?!
I think HG would be fibrillating at Richard’s comments.
I want to scream!
Good night. It’s 3:27 for me and that’s too much even for a night owl like me.
SF#71 – didn’t notice Kendra at the concert I attended but her voice is definitely noticeable in the last few concerts. I found myself saying, “Oh Kendra, would you please tone it down (actually, I might have said shut (eh, hate that word) up).” Must have been irritating or something.
Nite, Val!
UGH, did you guys see the part where he said he’s trying to have a pre-order feature for the Christmas album on FOD? Just trying to make a little more money off of David…
The IDF forum discussion is interesting. For some reason, David’s fans are so dramatic. This is another in a long list of drama between fans, fansites, etc. I guess people really do feel like they own david or something.
Of more interest to me is the discussion about the TCA. If what they say is true, then David’s management is seriously lacking. Foregoing an appearance on national TV for a small concert is idiotic if true.
baky – yeah, that TCA tidbit makes no business sense IMO…
Also interesting to me was that Richard ever-so-coincidentally decided to show up in the Christmas thread (create a diversion?), while someone named baboo (who sounds suspiciously like Jeff) started commenting in the web site thread. If there is drama in the fanbase, I think it starts with these two!
In the meantime, my guess is David is having sweet dreams. And now me too… nite all!
LittleM,
I uploaded 1 Crush and 2 ALTNOY Remix in both mp3 and mp4 to the following link.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php
Hope you they are what you are looking for.
Quiteblanc
There are 10 plus pages to read on IDF ………it would be best if we took this conversation there. It’s their topic. IMHO.
Abrra
Wow! It must be really interesting at IDF! It’s a ghost town here.
Anyway, this confirms how spoiled we are:
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A ticket in the first 25 rows*
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Miley Cyrus gift bag
Early hassle-free entrance to venue
Fun Fan souvenir laminate***
Crowd-free merchandise shopping
Parking****
There is no meet & greet included with this package.
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**Miley will not be at Pre-show party
***Souvenir laminate does not provide backstage access
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Package details subject to change without notice.
Abrra,
I’ve been up since 3:30. Watching videos. Had several ideas for mgr’s. Cannot recall a single one now. Will you teach me how to do it? I will have my cell phone with me on vacation.
Although I will be consorting with all of the Hollywood types, I will still take calls!
sleepless in Michigan
Hey betsy! More mgr’s
Yes, we should have a special tab for them here.
Anyone know what these abbreviations stand for?
from IDF re the Christmas album:
Question:“Is it going to be a single release to AC or HAC ?
Richard’s Answer:Don’t know yet.
Sometimes I get a feeling it’s time for me to back off. Once again.. my gut has not failed me. The whole thing is crap.. soup to nuts.. crap.
The website
The Christmas CD
The TCAs
All crap. I’m going to continue to support David.. just in a different way.
What a slap in the face .. on SO many levels …
I have always appreciated the passion and enthusiasm of David’s fans. But sometimes I think we need to realize that we do not have all of the information. We have pieces of it, and we attempt to fit them together with a furtive hope that the outcome will be something of which we approve. We all want the best for David, and we all have our own ideas of what that is.
Peace.
dawn65: Sigh – you said a mouthful. David needs to have professional support in all areas. Why all these hangers-on and wannabe’s get selected to work on ANYTHING, is beyond me.
IDK what to say about this situation. Like Dawn says this whole thing is CRAP! For every step forward David takes he gets pulled 10 or more steps back.
What makes me sick is that one of the most talented artists to come along on the scene is seemingly being managed by amateurs. He is not being given an adequate enough budget to do things professionally as befitting his potential and this more than anything has me upset.
Will he left to sit and wither by the wayside while other less talented acts bypass him with simply better promotion? It just boggles the mind *shakes head in confusion*
I will say this.. THANK GOD that David is immensely talented..because by the time these leeches get done trying to suck the life out of him..and bleed him dry due to their own personal interests.. that will be all David has to fall back on.
In all jest.. for an artist like David .. who relies HEAVILY on a fanbase .. to catapult him into the next level.. they sure do a bang up job of pissing everyone off.. alienating.. and using the age old divide and conquer approach… Nice work.
I can’t begin to address anything..because I’m totally defeated.
Turning down the TCA’s.. was a BAD BAD BAD decision. It was an honor.. it was pushed for by the fan base .. it was positive exposure .. and I’m sure they were willing to be flexible .. David’s set is 45 minutes .. and his M&G is no more than an hour of his time.. you can’t tell me SOMEWHERE in that time frame .. he couldn’t do this.
The Christmas album… God gave David very broad shoulders.. and apparently a VERY long coat tail.. because he’s got everyone riding upon them.
The “official website” .. cough .. another STELLAR decision .. no wonder it took this kid so long to get where he’s at .. in as much as he is gifted beyond words… he’s constantly fighting an uphill battle.. no wonder he’s got such strong thighs…
The website, a fairly quick easy fix, just get it done! NOW!
The Christmas CD, for me, I’m going to wait for the end result.
If it is amazing and sells like hot cakes, this won’t matter.
If not, they will have some serious work to do. I know one thing, even if David has to carry it, he will and he
will make it work!
TCA’s, I would like to know where the info came from that he was invited to perform and declined. Is it fact or rumor?
I agree with joymus, it sometimes feels like the one step forward, two steps back. And he works his freaking patootie off!
“in as much as he is gifted beyond words… he’s constantly fighting an uphill battle.. no wonder he’s got such strong thighs… and dawn, we depend on you for this!
You know I usually try to live by the trust-the archulator mantra and not stress about these things but I can’t help but be wonder what’s going on with those managing David’s career.
So we as David’s older fans have come to terms with David going down the “teen heartthrob” route at this point in his career. But if you’re going to do it at least do it right. If you are trying to reach out to that demographic is there any excuse for him to turn down going to the TCA for a solo concert in a small venue? It makes no sense.
David is an artist with a gold album, platinum single and is signed to a major label. Why do I get the feeling that his management is trying to figure things out as they go along. Why not hire professionals to handle his official website etc? Or at least make sure that he is able to attend an awards show where he is nominated.
As talented as he is, at this point in his career exposure is important, having a good website it important. Sometimes I get an “amateurish” feeling from his management, like they don’t want to let him go.
I know that there is only one person who can take control of what is happening. It just gets frustrating because as a fan of his music I just want his to be surrounded by the best professionals in the business now.
David deserves the very best. I rarely go to his official website because the few times I have it was out-of-date and hard to navigate.
About the TCA’s – do we know that he turned down an invitation? And if he did, I say, maybe he’s better off doing the concert. Why go on TV and then get no promotion afterwards? The concert-goers would be upset, sure he’d be on TV, but then what? Will the viewers go and buy his CD? They certainly won’t hear him on the radio after the show.
The ONLY mistake (in my opinion) that I have seen during David’s career is the lack of promotion BY HIS LABEL after Crush. Other than that, I think he’s doing better than just fine, especially considering the lack of airplay. His CD sales are very respectable, his solo tour was sold out, and his tour with McFly and Demi has gained him new fans.
I don’t think we have enough information to make informed decisions about anyone around David, or on his team. I only know for a fact what has been released or not by Jive. The official website and Christmas CD are secondary to the fact that only his die-hard fans even know that he is on tour. Many people don’t even know he has an album out, and if they happen to see it in the store, they assume he’s the ballad-boy they saw on Idol and they walk right past.
Poor decisions on what to include on the album, poor decisions on what songs to release after Crush from those that were included, poor radio promotion, poor tour promotion. These, I feel, are the root cause of any career issues that fans like to debate. Notwithstanding these issues, he is doing great. He seems happy.
I look toward the future of his career with a smile on my face, and I’m enjoying every moment of the now.
I found the entire post at IDF to be informative for many reasons one of which being the name of other artists who have great websites – Brooke White (fabulous) Michael Buble and Hanson.
If you are a newbie to DA you will get turned off. It is not user friendly. Even if _____ has been there several months, where are the much needed improvements? In my opinion even the Tour Day Vids while cute, that’s all they were – “cute”. We could all pretty much figure out what goes on behind the scenes.
IMHO, it would have been nice to showcase more of what makes him tick as an artist. How does he adjust his performances from a solo tour to a bigger arena, what considerations go into tweaking his set list? etc.
FG – it is really not in my nature to be argumentative but I just have to play devil’s advocate for a bit.
The point of attending the TCA would have been an opportunity to talk about his up-coming Christmas release. We do want that to sell don’t we? Can you imagine him walking down the orange or blue carpet with every entertainment outlet you can think of getting this information from the horse’s mouth so to speak. At this point David is his own best sales man IMHO.
While an easily rescheduled solo concert would wow 2-300 people who are already fans of David, millions more would have known about the new cd. Apart from that what about the tons of fans who even as we speak are pounding away on their keyboard, day after day power voting – where’s our cherry on top of the desert? Whether he wins one surfboard or none, nothing right now beats David on TV, mentioned, interviewed, photographed, accepting an award or better yet – performing.
My last point is just because we are die-hard fans of David, it does not mean that we have to take everything Jive or his management dishes out. I think we have the right to speak our minds if we disagree with something. They do not have all the answers and I am afraid we are very much being taken for granted without a care in the world about how anything concerning David affects us.
Hi Joymus! – I agree that publicity can only be a good thing, but I’m not sure that the watchers of the TCA would get excited about the Christmas CD. I have no clue about teens. The Christmas CD will not affect his pop career, unless it were to include a killer original track that charted on mainstream charts. Of course the chance to perform would be awesome, but in my opinion I don’t know if it is worth it since there is no single that would be supported afterwards. Crush was a big hit, and performing that would seem appropriate given the nomination. The more promotion for David the better. And yes, we have the right to speak our minds, and yes we are taken for granted. They know we are not going anywhere.
FG #158, “About the TCA’s – do we know that he turned down an invitation? And if he did, I say, maybe he’s better off doing the concert. Why go on TV and then get no promotion afterwards? The concert-goers would be upset, sure he’d be on TV, but then what? Will the viewers go and buy his CD? They certainly won’t hear him on the radio after the show.”
ITA. After reading that Team David declined the offer to perform on TCA I felt a bit defeated/deflated. I along with many fan wrote to the TCA requesting that they have David perform and the to learn… HE DID WHAT??? But I thought about it and figured that he was already committed with his concert. Lets not forget he had already canceled two shows with McFly to perform on AI. And I am not sure that was really beneficial for him–his sales after his appearance were 13K TMH and 5K cds. It may have help his image a little.
I have been wanting to ask for some time now, why is it so bad to have Jeff to continue working with David in the background? I understand his indiscretion, but he has pretty much been out of sight and he is still co-manager. I will not cast stones at him because I can’t walk on water either and am just thankful I am not as well known as he is. But I’m sure his love for his son has not changed and he still wants what is best for him. Is it not good for him to make sure David is not screwed over (no pun intended). Don’t get me wrong, I DO NOT think that Jeff should ever be visible like he was before. In fact, after David turned 18, I thought he should have became, for the most part, invisible–behind the scene (no autographs & pictures with David’s fans). If not Jeff, who else would be looking out for his best interest for his career?
An interview from the UK….David is lovely.
http://www.onlydavidarchuleta.blogspot.com/
The fact is .. TCA extended an invitation.. and it was declined. Think they’ll ask again ? What a slap in the face.. don’t be surprised if he’s not only never asked again.. but never nominated again for anything.
Sooner or later.. this stuff will start carrying negative undertones.
As for Jeff ? I guess in regards to trusting someone to “manage” your career.. it all comes down to someone making a judgement call. To me .. your character predisposes you to the decisions you make .. and I’ll say no more about that..because I think I am pretty clear without going into more detail.
DA.com .. is the last place I go for anything.. I’m not even sure I go there … all the concert information was posted wrong.. and people relied upon it. Behind the scenes .. cute..but not very professional.. I’d expect to see that type of stuff on a fansite..but not on a label expensed space.. oh wait.. now it all makes sense.
We’ve all known that bad decisions have repeatedly been made when it comes to David from the JUMP.. now it’s all accumulating into a big fat pile of steamy .. _________ .
How long do you think he can keep dodging that bullet???
For HIS sake.. I hope he shakes the deadweight.. and finally gets the respect he deserves as an artist.. not just a breadwinner.
I cannot speak for every fan but yes it not unthinkable that even die-hard fans can begin to get discouraged. Maybe they will simply just buy his music or go to a couple concerts,but any support beyond that may cease. Granted the TCA is not like a Grammy nomination, however if an organization can honor you with 3 nominations after wrestling them to the ground last year to open up a new category,and people are setting aside time in their busy schedule to power vote then yes, frustration for fans can set in. Is it all for naught?
Even in this instance instead of speculating, it could have been recommended for David to issue a statement/blog or vlog stating once and for all whether or not he will be there. In as much as we love David, he can begin to take measured steps in crafting his image independent of his management.
Brought this over
Lynn says:
July 27, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Alot of questions about Christmas album are answered at the idolforums link that sj #62 posted. Richard had 30 minutes last nite to answer questions at idf because there was alot speculating going on about it. The posts start at page#27 of that link from above.
And I was pleasantly informed. Richard did clarify that Jive is doing this album and many excellent producers are contributing to album and it will be promoted by Jive and it is going to be well produced. Hope the answers some of the speculations here.
I think they need to fire the whole lot of them and start over.
That official fan site? Haven’t been there in months. That site needs tearing down and a new one built in it’s place.
TCA? Demi is all over the talk shows and where is David? Keeping a low profile and his nose to the grindstone.
A friend of mine who liked David on AI asked me the other day…what ever happened to him? Did he ever put a record out?
Angelica – “A friend of mine who liked David on AI asked me the other day…what ever happened to him? Did he ever put a record out?” EXACTLY. But this is not the fault of Richard, or Jeff, or David.
Goboywonder/Joymus – I understand the frustration of power-voting and feeling let-down.
Dawn65 – I would hope that the TCA wouldn’t take it that way. Invitations and accepting awards cannot always be attended.
As for Jeff and the rest of David’s team, there may be contacts in place from before David turned 18, and even though he is now a legal adult, these contracts are in place. I am in no place to judge someone’s music credentials, or whether or not they should be involved in David’s Christmas CD or pop CD. I don’t really care as long as it is good. But, and maybe more importantly, will Jive put money behind it and promote it better this time around?
I’m at a conference so unable to get online much, so just checking in. Where did the info about TCA come from? Why is Richard answering questions on IDF? When is he just going to go away?
Also, another question I have: How did Amy get the job helping with the official site? Did Jeff give her the job?
i’m out of town w/limited computer access. i’m glad some of you have posted all the news here. i’m too angry and too short on time to comment.
Freo – Apart from #124, if you read the thread on IF you will see a poster by the name of ‘baboo’ who (IMO only) had a bit too much information for a mere member about what went down behind the scenes.
dawn, whenever I have a lump in my throat, you always come up with the words so that I can breathe again. I say bravo to all your posts today. We all know how hard David works and I so feel what you said towards the end of #164: “For HIS sake.. I hope he shakes the deadweight.. and finally gets the respect he deserves as an artist.. not just a breadwinner.”
David needs professionals on his team, professionals who are comfortable and capable of making David shine. Individuals who compete with David for credits of David’s accomplishment, IMHO, are not professional enough to be on David’s team. Examples include, but I am afraid may not be limited to, acts such as broadcasting that such individual was the one who came up with the change up of a certain song sung by David during AI; acts such as telling fans that such individual had come up with a new ending for a certain song for David to sing in his solo tour.
peruu #173, you 2nd paragraph, it that much different from Mr. Bestor (sp) tweeting about working on David’s album knowing,imo, that David’s rabid fans would be all over it. What about Mike K. pushing Zero Gravity? Wouldn’t he benefit as much as David? And what about the bandmembers coming out to meet and greet David’s fans? They don’t seem to be in the background or is that somehow different?
Angelica…
I can’t find the link to the Vulnerable Man video…. Could you please repost?
Thank you!
I’d be deliriously happy if David sold 13k of anything the following week. Have any concerts done that? David deserves and needs to be seen on tv and heard on the radio. That’s what all fans want.
IMO Jeff has been a hindrance since AI. This would have little to do with the recent scandal had he done good by David, but fans increasingly doubt that. Does anyone really believe Richard has enough credibility to put worries to rest? Does he speak for Jive?
I wish this was a chapter in a dvd that you just skip to get to the better parts, like you do with a less than great film. We can only hope David, being the good guy, leaps over all hurdles to get to a glorious happy ending. Yes, his fanbase is dramatic. We love him too much. Who’s ever felt like that about a singer? Not many,I guess.
Hi everyone! I’m in Pittsburgh and I did bring my laptop as you can see..I should have left it at home after all the negative vibes that shot out at me! WOW..WTH!!
Admin..feel free to delete as you see fit..
If Amy is running David’s “Official Website”, the joke is on me, cuz I thought she disappeared due to being disillusioned about David not recognizing her & Sabrina in Cleveland AFTER they did the “Interview”. I figured she thought she was wasting her time for David. Boy was I wrong! If she is running that site (badly I should add), then I guess it’s really true what they say, “It’s not WHAT you know, it’s WHO you know”!
Then again..more power to her. She ain’t gonna give it up. I guess that’s the reward for all the love given to papa…She should be up front and just tell David’s fans the TRUTH. Especially since speaking the TRUTH is what David is about. She should just BLD. Either let us know, or post a denial and end all the speculation.
Now About the TCA’s. What really worries me about that David not appearing is…what if he wins a surfboard? And they record his acceptance speech..”Sorry I can’t be there, but I’m “OPENING” for Demi and this is much more important”?? That would be real good, especially if he were to win “The Breakout Star”.
The Christmas Album..to me it’s all about David. At this point, I don’t care who’s producing it. I just want it to become a classic. That’s what I want.
All this Drama surrounding David is the pits. I feel for him, I feel for his family, even a little smidgen for papa, only because he screwed up royally! But I still can’t stand looking at his photos! I’m sure he will regret that indiscretion for a very long time. And it is true that while I wish he was not on David’s payroll (he is, you know), is there anyone else on his payroll that will have David’s best interests always, with no other agendas?
One last thing…I am David’s fan. I will always be his fan. My commitment to David is unconditional. All this other stuff has nothing to do with my devotion to David. I don’t like what seems to be going on in the background..but on the other hand, I really never did, so whatever…I have one agenda, and that is to follow David, support him however and whenever I can. I don’t have to be a commenter on a fan site, or be a member of his official web/fan site/club, or his myspace (which is also ugh!), all I have to do is continue going to his concerts and buying his music IF & WHEN it’s available.
Going out for dinner now and checking out the Byham..see you later! It’s beautiful here!
Angelica…nevermind found it….beautiful.
FG#168
“EXACTLY. But this is not the fault of Richard, or Jeff, or David.”
It is absolutely not David’s fault.
Maybe it’s nobody’s fault and no harm no foul at this stage in his early career. But even the best teams need to be shaken up and dismantled at times. Things change. New perspectives and ideas are needed. Sometimes people can be too close to a situation to focus clearly on the goal. This will not happen soon because those in the inner circle guard their positions (and movements) very carefully.
SF “She should just BLD. Either let us know, or post a denial and end all the speculation.”
I felt uncomfortable with all of her gushing about Mr. Archuleta. I hope he didn’t fall to that extent. What is BLD?
Have a great time. I wish I could go to another show. 8(
SilverFox….
Thank you for checking in.
The Christmas Album..to me it’s all about David. At this point, I don’t care who’s producing it. I just want it to become a classic. That’s what I want.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
is there anyone else on his payroll that will have David’s best interests always, with no other agendas?
Probably not….
It’s his dad… all family’s have issues, some more some less, David just happens to be a public figure so we’ll hear about it. My family has had issues, dad related, I’ll never forget when a family member told my daughter in a discussion, you hate your dad, she answered with I don’t hate my dad, family member,but look at what he put you through, he made a mistake, but my dad loves me always has and I love him and always will.
For some reason I feel this is how David feels, family is important to him…IMO
One last thing…I am David’s fan. I will always be his fan. My commitment to David is unconditional. All this other stuff has nothing to do with my devotion to David. I don’t like what seems to be going on in the background..but on the other hand, I really never did, so whatever…I have one agenda, and that is to follow David, support him however and whenever I can. I don’t have to be a commenter on a fan site, or be a member of his official web/fan site/club, or his myspace (which is also ugh!), all I have to do is continue going to his concerts and buying his music IF & WHEN it’s available.
Me too! I couldn’t have said this any better!
GBW – “What is BLD?”
To answer your question, I did not know at first but in re-reading the context of the quote I am guessing BLD is – be like David.
joymus, I was thinking it was a typo for “be bold”, but I think you’re right.
I too am committed to David, thick or thin!
Like David, I hate drama. I hate it on TV. I hate it in real life. I can count on one hand the number of arguments my husband and I have had in 13 years of marriage. I don’t do drama. So I will BLD and assume a zen-like perspective and focus on what makes me happy. It is said hubby’s birthday today and we are going out to dinner.
SF, have a great time!
Ok, I’m trying to catch up here, I’ve gotten a little behind in reading all the posts and watching all the latest videos. But I have noticed this thread has gotten a little “heavy”, so I’m just going to try to lighten things up a bit, if I may.
I’m so brain dead right now I couldn’t give an intelligent comment if I tried. After watching all the Cinci vids, I am left completely speechless, mindless, powerless, weak in the knees, and a complete pile of mush, I could go on….But then I came across some other goodies that really did me in.
Abrra you outdid yourself with your MGRs, but then I found some that were even slower and closer up. Wow! I don’t know if anyone has seen these yet, like I said, I am a little behind (no pun intended), but if you haven’t they will make your day or night.
They’re entitled “Highlights: David Archuleta”. I thought they would be highlights of the concert. Well, they were highlights alright, just not what I expected. See for yourself:
This one has a very interesting camera perspective and view that is well…….judge for yourself. By the way, the singing is great too:
I really think this whole video of TMH by Mizzfili is great. She had a great view. And I don’t usually like screaming in my ear while I’m listening to David, but in this video it is very fitting and touching (literally) to hear the girls response when David touches their hand and how close he is to them. Wow, I would die. Starts about 1:22:
New blog from David..hmmmm? Verrrryyyy interesting!
Hello all! I just wanted to let you know how my week has gone and about the things I’ve gotten to do.
First off, I’d like to welcome Jordan Pruitt to the tour! I talked to her and she’s a really nice girl. She’s really talented too. So even though I miss KSM
. I’m looking forward to having Jordan with us now! So I hope you guys enjoy her set. And also, I just wanted to say welcome to Jordan!
All right, so the shows that we’ve had since my last update have been in Kansas City, Chicago, and Cincinnati. They’ve all been awesome! Today we’re in Cleveland. Something exciting about this week is we had Kendra’s family around! We had 2 days off while they were here, so we decided to take the time and visit some historical church sites that were in the areas of Independence, Liberty, and Far West Missouri. They were all in the Kansas City area. It’s really interesting learning about the history and challenges people had to face back then, and admirable to see the courage they had when they faced them. On our other day off, we were going to Chicago but took a detour to a little historical town called Nauvoo. I loved it! All the people there were just really nice, and they had a pageant (which is another way of saying a play I guess haha) which was really neat. If you ever happen to be in the area for some reason lol, I really recommend you check it out. But it was fun spending time with Kendra’s family and going to see the sites!
After Nauvoo, Kendra’s family left, but we actually had another day off yesterday and went to another little historical town called Kirtland here in Ohio. Had another great day there! haha. I’ve heard a lot about these places since they have a lot of history with my church and beliefs, and I honestly was never that interested in going to visit them before. I just thought ok… I know a lot of stuff happened there but it’s old. But this year we decided to go since they just so happened to all be near cities we had days off in. Isn’t that ironic? lol. But wow…. I had such an awesome time. I just gained a totally new perspective of what people really had to go through in their lives so I could have what I have in my life today. It’s good to learn about our history, and see what has helped get us where we are and make us who we are today. I just have to say thanks to them for everything. You can always read stuff and say yeah ok sure I know about it already. But there’s a big difference in actually being there where it happened and feel the atmosphere of it all. You also learn in a way you could never learn by just reading. I know I don’t usually mention that kind of stuff… but it’s what I did this week, and I can’t help but show how much I appreciate and respect what they’ve done. You’d really have to go to the places to understand, and see what they were like. But anyway, this has just been a really great week
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Ok, tomorrow is a solo show in Pittsburgh! I haven’t done a headlining show since the first show in Del Mar, but yeah I’m on tour with Demi now so that’s the reason why haha. But it should be fun! The scary thing is since we’ve been on tour, we haven’t had a whole lot of rehearsal time – Even though we did get to go through the longer set with the newer band members in Del Mar. But I’m excited! Pittsburgh is a great city. I remember when Jason Castro and I hung out during our day off there. I made a video blog that night about it too haha. Hold on let me see if I can find it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnxD4zi-_7o
I haven’t seen it since the day I uploaded it, and I don’t plan on watching it now either lol. But wow that was just about a year ago! Crazy how much can happen in a year. But anyway there it is if you wanted to see what I did on my last day off hanging out in PIttsburgh. So it should be fun! Let me know if you’re coming to the show or any of the other solo shows! But hey I think I have to go to soundcheck now… So I’ll talk to you guys later!
Song for the day: Blow Away – A Fine Frenzy Kinda random I know but it’s always in my head haha. Needed to get it out.
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Hi GoBoyWonder #174, so, let me try to explain my view:
Mr. Beston(?): Mr. Beston seems to be recognized in his field. His mentioning of David in the tweeter seems to be a plus for David.
Mike: Everybody knows that Mike co-wrote Zero Gravity with David. If the song flies, Mike gains, so would David.
The band members: The band memebers came out to talk to the fans, since David could not do it himself. Their comments about David were usually like: he’s a nice kid, he’s talented, or he is a good boss. So, band members got fans excited, fans liked band members and fans loved David even more.
AI song change up: David had a great night at AI for that song. Fans were happy but nobody bothered to find out if he got any help on rearranging the song. Now with this claim, who gained?
Change of the ending on a song sung on tour: Now, if what was said was along this line; “David is going to sing the ending of this song differently when he’s on tour. It’s going to be hot! You guys would love it,” I would have no issue with it.
So, I would say the band members and Mike were promoting David through those specific actions that you mentioned. The specific actions that I was referring to, gave the appearance of self-promotion by certain individuals.
JOYMUS !!!
“I cannot speak for every fan but yes it not unthinkable that even die-hard fans can begin to get discouraged. Maybe they will simply just buy his music or go to a couple concerts,but any support beyond that may cease.”
Were you dancing around inside my brain today ?
Because seriously.. I’ve about reached that point.
It’s like living in a small town.. the archucommunity.. everyone knows everything about everybody.
It may be time for me to relocate.
And for the record.. I’m still going with my first knee jerk reaction.. it’s all crap.
When being a diehard fan.. stops being FUN.. what is the sense really ?
I can buy the music and attend concerts just as much as always.. and spare myself the unnecessary baggage.
Why IS Richard answering questions at IDF..and not on FOD? It seems like there’s a lot of cheating going on everywhere there days.
Why IS Amy running DA.com .. is anyone really running it? Between that and his MySpace page.. combined.. neither is worth a damn.. but I have noticed all David’s blogs are going through there now..
But you know what folks.. we are the ones that allow it. If we collectively pulled our heads out of her butts.. and stood for something.. and stopped being so unconditional about what we choose to do.. perhaps.. we would have less to complain about?
I mean seriously.. we’ve let them lead the fanbase around by the nose for the last year.. we’ve bowed to them.. and supported their every move.. what makes you think they’ll change their ways now ???
David just tweeted…
DavidArchieWow, this is soo neat! Thank you for helping out with Rising Star Outreach! You guys are amazing! http://bit.ly/108Di2
Joymus #165, “I cannot speak for every fan but yes it not unthinkable that even die-hard fans can begin to get discouraged. Maybe they will simply just buy his music or go to a couple concerts,but any support beyond that may cease.”
Dawn65 #188, “Because seriously.. I’ve about reached that point.”
I read on Mj’s once about Fandom Implosions, she said it happens every time. Maybe that’s what it will take for David’s management/label/David to step it up. IDK
Everyone has to make their own decision about how to support David. Who the heck made a law that says you HAVE to be part of a Blog, Fan site, Fan club, etc, etc. in order to be a fan. I choose to follow David here at TDC and very infrequently post at FOD, not to show my support for David, but to SHARE in my feeling, yes my UNCONDITIONAL feelings & support for David. If I choose to STOP being a part of the Internet-work for David, I will still be a fan. Always. Uncondionally.
I don’t care about Amy. I don’t know Amy. But I do care that because she is chose to do what Soundscene, and now momjulee has confirmed what transpired, it may cause some fans to turn away from David. And for what? Because another “fan” got on the inside? I doubt very seriously it was David’s doing anyway. I like to think he is smarter than that. Anyway, it’s another instance of what’s done is done, just like the tour.
I have more important issues regarding David than whether Amy is David’s bestest friend now. I worry more about why David is not promoted more? Why half the country still doesn’t “know” David? Why he is bigger in Asia than in his own country? Why I don’t hear his voice on the airwaves? Why he’s not asked to guest on TV Talk shows? Why his solo venues did not sell out quickly, and still haven’t? I could go on & on about the things IMO are important. I know the official fan site is a mess, but if major changed in the design were to be made tomorrow, would that miraculously make all the other issues disappear? Would he get the recognition he deserves? I think not. IMO, David needs new management with vision. David needs a new label with vision. That is what David needs NOW. IMO.
But since it’s highly unlikely THAT will happen just cuz I think it should, I will just continue to tread on, spend my hard earned money following David..unconditionally, cuz he is so worth it.
SF ((((hugs))))
Excuse all my typos..puh-leeze! :lol
Song for the day: Blow Away -- A Fine Frenzy Kinda random I know but it’s always in my head haha. Needed to get it out.
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Lyrics…
one of us is gonna be here and
one of us is gonna be running
off alone into the great unknown
you’re not me, you’re a model of freedom
all you need are your kicks when you need ‘em
come and go, caught that slow alright
with one hand off the side
we get farther away in the blink of an eye
and it’s the time we waste
swallowed into space
it’s the time it takes to blow away
to blow away
to blow away
hey, hey you, yeah you gotta be leaving,
say what you want, what you say, say anything
no one knows just how deep it goes
we are old in your teenaged tyranny
and all you need is a hunger to feed
i’ve got my own secrets though, say what?
with a heart full of mess and lore
we are doomed but we wanted more
it’s the ride we take
the many winged escape
it’s the bough we break to blow away
to blow away
and we blow away
one of us is now retreating
you knocked me down so hard i’m seeing a thousand stars
come out where you are
’cause i won’t ever be caught crying
and i will not be taken lying down
it blows into smoke
the time we waste
swallowed into space
it’s the time it takes to blow
it’s the ride we take
the many winged escape
it’s the bough we break to blow away
to blow away
it’s the times we say that no one’s gonna take your place
it’s a mistake to blow away
to blow away
we blow away
With regard to Amy, I would guess that she is barely on David’s radar.
Ok .. I just got done reading the entire drama at IDF. I personally would like to take soundscene (lisa) out to dinner.. or buy her a freaking award. I am a big fan of honesty and courage.. and she hit them both there.
As for the whole Christmas CD drama .. holy make me want to throw up … I plan on going to Walmart as planned.. I actually am planning on buying at least 20 copies…cause I’m gifting the bejesus out of them this year.. it will probably exceed 20 copies..but that’s a good figure to start with.
SF .. I’m sorry you’re so stressed.
Is there a full moon out today? I thought even the tone of David’s blog was different somehow, like a different person. I have never seen him so outward about his religion before. One thing I have appreciated about him is that he is not in-your-face about his beliefs.
dawn…
Make sure you buy no more than five CD’s at a time to count towards sales units….got this from none other than soundscene while lurking around a while back….just thought I’d let you know.
That’s my Christmas gift for everyone this year.
oh really ??? Dang it.. that means I have to make like.. 5 trips back to the store ?
It better come out in November.. cause I don’t do frequent stops in December.. it’s a madhouse crazy place around there parts.
Dawn..Actually, not stressed at all. Just pi$$ed about how this one thing can cause so much chaos throughout David’s fanbase. I really do understand how everyone feels. I know there should be no privileges given to certain fans..but really which of us would not JUMP at the chance to be close to David? To be in his inner circle? So there are a lot of bad and envious feelings throughout David’s fanbase. But for some “fans” to even think of jumping ship just because of something that David may or may not have had a part in just irks me. And all for a Website? Like that’s the most pressing, important thing on David’s mind right now! PUH-LEEZE! When there are so many other more pressing things NOT going on right now for David? I can just imagine how David must be feeling about NOT being able to attend the TCA. But he made the choice to follow through for his fans, even though he will miss out on enormous exposure.
And then we get a blog from David..so calm, so like David. You would never guess he’s surrounded by all this drama. I love him. Yes I do.
So what I can gather at IDF, Jeff was the one who asked different fans to work for the official site. I have my own suspicions about what went on that I’m not going to share publicly, but this is only the beginning, unfortunately.
Well said SF. There are three entities in this endeavor: David, his fans, and his management team. But, there is one entity who seems to be letting the other two down. Where is the promotion? Where are the high profile events? Why is there little to no radio play? Has management really earned their pay for what was done this year? David is doing his part, he takes care of himself and his voice, he treats his fans and supporters with the utmost generosity and kindness, he continues to grow as a performer, what more can be asked of David? So what’s up management?? What have you done lately??
Perhaps we are way too intellectually and emotionally invested in David to objectively evaluate his management team. I keep telling myself that I expect way too much from Team Archuleta, I mean, there has been some pretty good success this year, right?
Ultimately worrying about things that are out of one’s control is fruitless. But it is cathartic to voice one’s concern on occasion. At the end of the day, I am with SF, I continue to give my unconditional support to David, because he is so worth it, and because he deserves it.
With regard to the TCA, I am still unclear where this information is from.
Oh my heck SF… You are on a roll today…I’m with you on everything you’ve posted today.
And then we get a blog from David..so calm, so like David. You would never guess he’s surrounded by all this drama. I love him. Yes I do.
Me too!!!!!!!!
SF – what I am upset about is the cummulative effects of these blunders on his overall image.
1) The label/management cannot rely on the assumption that his core-fans will always be there regardless of their behavior. It is exactly this unconditional acceptance that will perpetuate a myth of “we know what’s best” and trap him in a bubble of mediocrity. I know I am there for the long haul in spirit but will the personal cost – stressing etc. take its toll eventually? Will newer fans be turned off?
2) All this backstage drama with the official website could have been avoided had proper disclosure been followed. Period.
3) We do not have definitive word whether or not he will be at the TCA awards. Everywhere you turn we are prompted and urged – vote TCA – to what end if he is not even going to take advantage of the opportunity to shore up weak promotion from Jive/Azoff and yes, to let the fanbase know their efforts are not going down the toilet. A taped acceptance, or performance could suffice.
Our collective wish as fans is simply to see David succeed in this business. My worries about the path to his success acts like a fire alarm at this point to sound a warning if he is being short-changed in any way. That is all we can do from afar. Maybe it is time to let go and let the chips fall where they may.
Freo .. gmta
This looks like a fun conversation going on. Apparently, I have offended some folks and I’m trying to figure out why? I don’t recall having met some of you and thought it might be beneficial for us to get to know each other before we make assumptions and accusations of ones character. Can we keep this drama free? Fair enough?
Maybe it is time to let go and let the chips fall where they may.
Now that’s a scary thought… and if that happens.. that could be disastrous.
We may not like the undertone of the fansites right now.. but lets face it .. that is the ONLY thing that’s keeping him afloat right now.
The FANSITES.
The devoted…they diehards…the give me your best shot.. and I’ll keep coming back for more folks.
I’m sick to death of the VRS .. the incrowd.. it makes it annoying. I don’t want leaks.. I want David to be able to trust the people around him.. that’s one of the reasons I hold Dean in such high regards.. cause David depends on him probably more than anyone.. and you’d never know it.. cause Dean is a classy guy .. and he is ultra professional. He should give class lessons to the rest of David’s camp.. cause loose lips sink SHIPS.
uhoh
Hey Richard, thanks for stopping in. Do you know if David was actually offered to perform on the TCA and it was declined?
210 – It’s no biggie. I am not offended. I realize that we just don’t know each other. Is now a good time?
Hey Richard!
I don’t know who is around right now, or who is lurking or what.
211 – I don’t know the answer to that. I know it was brought up early on when the dates were open and why they were open, but I am not aware that he was offered anything. Of course, I wouldn’t know. That’s not my business. They decided long ago to book a solo show. Not sure why they chose that, but they did.
I always assume that everyone reads everything on the ‘net, especially in a fan community.
Hey Liz. We’ve met, have we not?
Richard, Have you been able to be involved in the Christmas CD? If so, in what way?
216 – Me too freofan. I don’t very often come here, I have before. But I had several people lead me here today, so I thought I’d stop by.
Yes, we have met. I gave you a CD of hymns at the Salt Lake show.
Glad you got to see this site, R.
218 – Yes I have. I am producing on it. That is what I do, for those of you who don’t know. I am a producer/composer/songwriter. Recorded my first album over 15 years ago. This is why I know the Archuleta’s in the first place. Nearly four years ago, I started working with David on music. We have been planning a Christmas album ever since.
Excellent! What are you allowed to tell us about it?
Chris Rice – I love it! Have listened to it several times. Thank You
David better wake up soon and smell the coffee. At this stage of his career mistakes are to expected and he is being insulated for now because he is still considered “young” in the broadest sense. For the general public the honeymoon stage will be over with the release of the next two albums. He shouldn’t have to sweat the small stuff but he will be expected to take more responsibility for all aspects of his business.
I once saw a documentary about the Columbian super star Shakira. She started young in the business and was taken advantege of till she seized ultimate control. She said she became a control freak in the process. No detail escaped her notice and that is what enabled her to succeed despite the odds. David may not need to go that far but he obviously needs to grasp an understanding of the non-music side of things soon.
dawn…..LMAO
Cool. So glad that you enjoyed it!
218, Well I, for one, can’t wait to get it!
I’ve heard there is one Spanish song.
dja .. don’t laugh at me .. hahahahaha
I’m sitting on my hands .. like all good problem children
dawn…GMTA. I finally figured out what you meant!
So Richard, are you able to tell us any details about the Christmas CD?
LOl @ freo … like two sparrows in a hurricane
dawn… You make me cry and laugh in one breath….lo
Wowza, work kept me away for the day and now I find out the ArchuSky is falling!
The only thing I care about is that David get the same effort and excellence behind the scenes as he puts out there on the front lines.
And we don’t know for certain what goes on back there.
Re Amy, I suspected she had joined Team David in some capacity. She’s smart, creative (and, yes, well-connected, but that’s what makes the world go round, folks). Most importantly, she loves David as much as we do and if she’s involved in the official site, maybe she can help make it a more fan-friendly place than it is now. *ducks tomatoes*
The Christmas CD is a long way off, I just hope there’s another single release in the works before then to get David back on the radio!!
Hi Richard,
If you are reading this then you know we are only concerned that David is not always projected in the best light. As die-hard fans we are already grinding our teeth at the lack of airplay or promotion on the part of his label. For me he is the best thing since sliced bread and it hurts when they are seemingly pinching pennies where he is concerned.
228 – Actually, that makes at least two of us. It is coming together quite nice. Family members will be thrilled to get this one as a gift. I love the different flavors that will be on there.
232 – probably not details like you would like them. But, try me…
Hi Richard,
Rumor has it there will be Christmas tour or concerts to promote Christmas CD…Any truth to that?
dja ..I think I’ve heard that before .. and I’m sure there are a lot of people hanging their hat on me right now.. but my head is no place for a hat like that
Different flavors – please explain…
Richard .. I actually plan to gift at work as well .. anyone that knows me knows that .. being a diehard is not cheap by any means
I agree, Joymus. Richard, if you have read through this thread I stand behind everything I have said. I would share the same face-to-face. One thing I really appreciate about this site is that we can have discussions that can question and even be critical.
joymus..I KNOW how you feel about David and how much you admire his talent. We have talked at length about so many things regarding David.
But at the end of the day, we really do let the chips fall where they may. We have no control over what Jive or Azoff do or don’t do. We do, however have control over if & how we will support David. All his fans have that choice. If we never go to another concert or buy another cd, David’s career will be over before it’s really begun. I KNOW it is because of us, his fans, that David is where he is. David has had little promotion from Jive, and Azoff has done no better. David doesn’t even appear in the teen mags anymore..I know, cuz I still look through them when I’m out shopping. He is just not OUT there. There was a short span when it seemed as if David was everywhere, but lately, it’s as if he’s an afterthought where Jive is concerned. They have two other idols on the front burner now. The outrage that is being shown about the ugly website & who’s running it, would be better served if it were shown at Jive & Azoff. He is being short changed by TPTB, so why would WE want to do the same. Not me. Never. I may at some point decide to cease being a part of this cyberworld that takes so much time and is quite addicting, but as a fan of David The Voice, that will never cease. I made a commitment and I’m sticking to it.
I’m sittimg here looking out the 10th floor at the sunset reflecting on the river, what a beautiful site! Just waiting for my sis to get here!
At least David is in the same time zone as I am. In fact, he’s not too far from here! Maybe he was able to see the same sunset!
Traditional songs? Newly composed songs? Pop-Christmas songs?
236 – I agree with you. But, we have no idea what efforts they are making behind the scenes. The entertainment industry is not a cut and dry arena. So many times I have seen that when someone thinks they’ve figured out the rules, the rules have already changed and are starting to change again. I know that Jive and David’s management has his best interest at heart. Why wouldn’t they? If he succeeds, they succeed. It may not always appear that way, but I know their intents are good.
This is funny lol
239 – I don’t know details, but I am sure they will do something. I’m sure they are looking at options already, but I have not heard the plan.
We may have no idea of what efforts are going on behind the scenes, but we’re pretty aware when there are none.
Richard,
I personally wish you the very best in putting out this effort for David and the fans. Please excuse our past speculations regarding you we are unfamiliar with your experience and you have never met many of us. I guess the CD will put an end to that lol!
Repeat of #239 Will there be concerts to promote his Christmas Cd
And I personally think David deserves better than he’s getting. He’s out there working his tail off.. I don’t know any other 18 year old that works as hard as he does.. he hasn’t come off the road since AI.
He has to piece together his albums.. which we all know doesn’t please him.. and in the meantime.. it’s like pulling teeth to get any exposure for him.
It’s frustrating.. because he doesn’t get in return what he puts out there. And it ticks me off.
ok .. whew .. I feel better not sitting on my hands now.
242 – Awesome! I would love for everyone to hear it. I guess you guys call this “self-promotion”? I haven’t worked my @^#*&% off for as long as I have for people not to hear this. I will be promoting the junk out of it. Ya’ll better have a full box of tissues handy.
243 – I would hope so. I have no problem with people being honest with me and calling it like they see it. If you don’t approve of what we do, that is the way it is. I put my values out there and make my decisions based on them. For those people who are close to me, they know who I am and they are very comfortable with who I am. I am comfortable with that as well. I am very grateful to have amazing people surrounding me that forgive my shortcomings and applaud my achievements. I hope your life has afforded you the same.
244 – I like what you said here, and I feel much the same way.
Richard, thanks for “dropping in”!
Do you know if there are any plans for a single to be released from the current CD before the release of the Christmas album?
245 – would you be offended if I said yes? Actually, the final tracks have not been decided. I would hate to lead you one direction that is not accurate
Richard,
Please continue to drop in from time to time. A stranger is simply a friend you don’t know. We feel like outsiders sometimes and many people take our strong criticisms of Jive/Azoff as non-support of David. We simply choose to get things off our chest in a forum that allows us to blow off steam.
No offense LOL!
OMG..I’m talking about sunsets and we have Richard on the “chopping block” so to speak
Hi Richard..we have met, but you probably don’t remember and that’s OK..
Question..the trip abroad you, Kurt & David’s dad took, did it have anything to do with David’s Christmas Album? Inquiring minds want to know..as for me, I couldn’t care less. I just want to hear the end result!
Richard.. perhaps we’ve heard something you’ve written or composed? Unlike David I have FAR too many years of music to try to remember everything.
249 – I am not aware that there has been none. I am fairly aware that discussions and actions plans are taking place constantly. One problem is, when we see something happening, those discussions were weeks ago with the execs. They are already 3 to 4 steps down the road. They are not reactive and can’t be. They have to take a proactive approach to all of this. Not everything they do works perfectly, but in what industry does it. I really wish I could explain all of the complexities that they get to deal with.
Richard,
Two words for you – Ave Maria? If you can, please answer in one of your cryptic answers….
Richard, you are welcome to visit this site. I have long assumed that everyone reads everything, and I assume that anything I post will be read by anyone from a band member to a neighbor of the family. I don’t share your particular religious values, but I respect others’ rights to have their own views.
What a strange day between official fan site and management drama, blogs, etc. Is there a full moon or something? I’m glad that I’m tied up with a conference and missing most of it!
250 – Thank you. If you are all disappointed with the Christmas album, then please point all fingers my way. I have a feeling we will still all be friends at that point. I hope so. We are doing our best to make that happen. There have been nights in the last couple weeks that I have not slept and have done so with all of you in mind. Believe me, my selfish self would have said screw it and found my pillow.
Richard, Did I miss your respond about the Christmas tour/promotion/tv specaial?
Well if you ask me they are like 3 or 4 steps behind .. I am not a fan … and am not shy about my distaste for the lack of promotion.. or exposure. If it wasn’t for the fans.. nobody would no anything.
Perhaps they aren’t reactive, and they shouldn’t be .. it’s their business to be proactive.. and without that .. you have no other choice but to be reactive.
251 – I’ll take that. But, how many 18 year olds do you know that made a seven figure income last year? I agree with you that he is working too hard, but I actually think some of that is his choice. This is his to declare, but I think he is enjoying what he is doing.
254 – I do not know. I think there should be, but that is not mine to say.
256 – I like to blow off steam as well. i do that at the piano. Poor piano…
and that should have been know ..
sorry my peepz.. I gotta be true to who I am .. putting on a front would be hypocritical of me.. I gotta be me .. I’m not comfortable being anyone else
258 – The end result from said trip will be amazing! Tissue anyone?
Richard 263, I doubt very seriously that any of us will be disappointed in the Christmas album. Some of us have our favorite traditional songs, and we have all heard David sing most of those a capella, no less, in the most sngelic voice this side of the universe..so, no I don’t think there will be any disappointments at all!
Will there be any releases from the Christmas CD or is that ever done for an artist?
Is there any Christmas tv specials in the works – PBS? (Hey, I can dream big – lol!)
Our forum can easily take people down the wrong path if they only read one thread.
The folks here, have been together a very long time, so not a lot of time is spent on formalities.
We ride the waves together, the highs the lows.. but we discuss things here .. probably like beating a dead horse.. but we really do analyze and pull things apart.
This is a very honest community we have here .. I proud of TDC and every member here .. my heart overflows with love for them.. we travel in circles.. so reading just this thread … would be misleading about the overall context of who we all are.
# 271 Make that ANGELIC voice..from The Voice! yeah!
joymus, PBS live from MSG!!!
Ditto, SF, #271!
Richard,
so long as David’s voice is front and centre, I think I can safely say everyone here will be pleased as a bowl of Christmas punch with the CD!
259 – Probably. Most people don’t know how much work I put into recent things that you have heard, well, in the last year and a half. And I am perfectly fine with that because I am not really into “self promotion”. I love being behind the scenes and seeing people have a great experience with something that I contributed to. I get a thrill out of that. People have told me I could have easily had a solo career, but it’s not my thing. I love making others sound amazing and seeing people moved by it. THAT’s my thing…
There’s really not a lot of probably of David putting out a bad Chrismas album. I’m curious to see how it does … but I think it will do far better than the debut CD … a lot of folks that like David’s voice.. may not like pop.. so they were turned off by the debut CD .. this is just a speculation of course.
The Christmas CD .. it will fare very well.. I have no doubt.
270… I’ve been using the tissues since I first heard about the Christmas album.
When will it be released?
261 – Two words… Can’t say… (wink)
Dawn65 #273 – you’re right. We complain for a bit, then gush for a bit, then get all spiritual for a bit, and then we’re back to complaining. We’re good at complaining lol!
265 – you’ve made yourself clear. I appreciate that.
PBS brings many unknown artists outside of the US to our everyday musical vernacular. Every year I am formally introduced to a new one with their specials.
Even a DVD of a live Christmas concert…..Yowza!
Latest tweet from David…sorry Richard, but David takes precedence!
“Woo no air air. haha. Out of breathe tonight! Still had a good time. I liked singing Crush tonight more than usual. Strange”.. hm 42 minutes ago
OK, carry on Richard!
#280….. WINK? WINK?…..OMG… I HOPE IT’S WHAT I THINK!
271 – My job is to take David’s instrument and enhance it with what I know how to do. I am very comfortable with the direction it’s going. Of course, he makes it easy.
272 – Don’t know. I guess if a song is amazing and stations want to play it, they will.
That would be cool!
I hope “Have Youself A Merry Little Christmas” is on it…and “O Holy Night”…and Silent Night…and The Christmas Song…
279 – I have not heard a release date. I’m sure when we know, word will spread quickly. It usually does around here.
Thanks Richard. It holds a very special place in my heart. My mother never read music but had a keen musical ear. She taught me to sing 4 different versions by the age of 10. Two being with harmony parts.
287 – You’re probably not batting 1.000 here, but…
oh Liz.. don’t be shy.. we can gush with the best of them. We are a small community.. but we are well aware that we are a read community.
I am famous don’t you know
They don’t call us the little rascals for nada
hahahahahahahahaha
Richard #282 .. yeah.. clear I’ve never really had an issue with .. tact.. is another thing I’m working on
j/k
SF .. No Air.. probably one of the few songs I actually like of JS.. don’t tell David though
287, boohoo 8(