The fact that David is retaining any visibility at all as a true musician in the midst of the tsunami that is Jive’s marketimanufactory is a freaking miracle. Even aside from the album’s assembly line production and overwrought arrangements (if we could convert just the violins into currency we would have enough for another bailout package), there’s this infuriating business of bonus tracks, extra cuts, special releases, deluxe editions and retail channel exclusives. I’ve purchased the dang album twice already and I still don’t have all the songs.
Memo to Jive: When you’re too slick, you’re slimy.
I understand that David is just doing the very little best he can within a wide web of music industry hacks and spiders, and feeling grateful for the opportunity to live his dream. Well, I hope he gets over that but quick. David has too much depth and too much heart to continue for too long to play the good industrial soldier so that others can shore up their coffers before the tweens move on to the next doe-eyed boy crooner.
For all his sweet softiness, David has a steel spine when it comes to his principles and his work ethic. He will need to start thinking about where his principles are with regard to not only his musical integrity but also his market integrity. Is he going to tow the industry line of maximum exploitation (have they even allowed him to sleep in the past three weeks?), or is he going to devise a more personal approach, one that matches his own interests and sensibilities more closely?
At the very least, I hope David is observing and absorbing what the wing-tipped American music industry considers important, where its interests really lie, and how its methods may–or may not–play to the more thoughtful and sensitive factions of the music consuming public. Maybe it wouldn’t matter if David didn’t appeal so much to the truly thoughtful and sensitive among us (even though this album doesn’t really map to that). But the many, many stories about expanded awareness, personal transformation, and spiritual breakthroughs triggered by David’s earlier performances tell an extremely unique story about this artist, and they are about as uncommon as Jive’s venal marketing methods are common.
When David signed on to be an American Idol, he made a Faustian bargain that he’ll need to live up to for a time. I only hope his commitment to purity and avoiding corruption extends beyond the corporeal to more complex cultural and economic dimensions.
I Have paid for Itunes and 3 cd’s. To get mp3’s of the bonus tracks , I had to hunt on the net. I have them and its silly that I had to take that route. I tried my best to use a converter on the Itunes songs, but i got white noise. So, I did what I had to do so that I can HEAR what i paid for on my Zune player. I share the frustration of chasing songs via multiple media.
Abrra
Powerful words rascal. I have wondered about the dichotomy of cultures he walks. Even for him to be on AI was a puzzle for me.
However, he says with complete authenticity that he wants to sing Top 40 pop, music he listens to, music for his age. He is realizing and living his dream. I am thrilled for him.
Yet there will be more tough lessons for a sensitive, talented, caring 17 year old as he grows and expands his interests, talents and career direction. I have complete certainty that he will walk the path that beckons him, not because it is paved with gold, but because he knows in his heart and soul what road he will take.
Write on, Rascal! Brilliant. Love the graphic, too. In the card I gave to David at Ford Day, I said something like “if the business side of things ever gets you down, just remember that your music matters to us in deep and profound ways” — keep that faith, David!
Well rascal, I hear ya. I’ve got the Amazon pre-order hard copy on the way, and the iTunes Deluxe download. I also instructed my husband to pick up the deluxe version at Walmart tonight. It is a little sleazy of Jive to do this, knowing full well that the diehards will buy every single one.
Well said, Rascal. I agree completely. It is going to be quite interesting to watch as David grows, learns more about himself, makes his own foray into the world, and makes decisions that some people (including some fans) may not agree with.
David’s new blog at Alloy -- “sea cucumbers feel really weird.”
He looks “gangsta” in his knit cap. Disguise?
http://www.alloy.com/5/108/8396/1/ref/archive/5/108/
Kizzi
Again GMTA. I was ready to post about sea cucumbers! And I left a note for David asking is that was supposed to be a disguise !
Abrra
Abrra -- we should “pinky swear.” Its what the grand kids do when they do the same thing at the same time -- LOL
When I was young………. We used to say “Jinx! You owe me a coke!” When we said the same thing at once. I drank a lot of coke. /smile
Abrra
I hate to say this, but in order for David to get to the point of doing his own thing…something WE ALL want and wish for, David will have to do what needs to be done with this album in order to make JIVE happy,,and the way to do that is money/honey..the bottom line is what counts..this is BIG business and David is a comodity. That he was able to make THIS album is due to the “steel in his spine”. I shudder to think that had he not had musical integrity, how different this album would be. I understand the frustration of not being able to get all the songs in one album, Is it any wonder why there is so much illegal downloading?
I didn’t have any problems but I would have been VERY upset if I had..the difference I think is that I would not have even thought for a minute to blame David for any of it. ( I know you aren’t either rascal ). He’s doing what is required per his contractual responsibilities, no matter how tired he is, or sick, or just plain may not want to do any more promos, he’ll do it because he has principles and integrity. I really think that if David is aware of the problems his fans are having getting all his music, he will take it on himself.
And that bothers me more than anything.
I wonder how long the contract is for that David signed with Jive… we may never know the answer to this, but it would be my hope that it is for a relatively short duration. Then he will be able to move on and forge his own path.
Step one: AI -- Get the exposure
Step two: Jive -- learn the “business” and establish a wider fan base
Step three: ?
Hey everybody! Look, I know I’m new to this site and all and probably have not earned the right to criticize anyone, but is it okay if I really, really liked David’s CD? I realize that I’m not that terribly sophisticated in my musical sensibilities and don’t have an insider’s understanding to the music business (which I know, earns its big bucks by dealing in “commodities” as it were,) but there were several songs on David’s CD that spoke to me on a profound, almost spiritual level. Most notably, “To Be With You”. It brought me to streaming tears and brought back the memory of so strongly yearning for love that it almost ached. “Desperate” reminds me of my 25-year-old son who is going through his own period of soul searching and personal pain. Those are only two examples of how this arrangement of songs penetrated my heart and stirred my soul. Is it perfect? No. Is David deserving of greater excellence from those who are supposed to represent him? Absolutely. Do I hate the fact that I have to jump through ridiculous hoops to be able to purchase all of the tracks? Heck, yeah!!! But please be kind to those of us who love this CD and have found so many reasons to do so.
carollann -- the only investment required to be able to comment on this site is the ability to do so. In fact, I agree with everything you’ve shared, including the power of the two songs you mention (I think “Somebody Out There” completes the trio of top tracks; it is inexplicable and unconscionable that this one was only available with an iTunes pre-order--just utterly ridiculous).
I think what happens is that sometimes visitors to this site don’t realize that we operate on a foundation and under an assumption that David Archuleta is an artist for the ages. He is, in our hearts and minds, unsurpassed as a singer; up there, already, with the true greats. We hold him to impossibly high standards because we know he will, in time, reach them.
My mandate is not to be a cheerleader but to be a thoughtful analyst. To swoon with rapture when the universe explodes in his song, and to deconstruct the complex machinations of his experiments in getting there. I hope that what I do will be acknowledged as the deepest respect. Because not every artist deserves this depth of attention.
Look, I hear you! I’ve already compromised my principles by purchasing David’s CD at Walmart’s when I was hoping to offer the sale at my favorite book/music store, were it not for their bonus-track gimmick. But, I made my choice, just like David made his.
So far, I’ve purchased the itunes downloads and got my physical CD (which I would’ve bought without the itunes promise of bonus tracks since the artist benefits more from physical CD purchases than from itunes).
I agree that Jive is too slick and milking his popularity for every $ they could squeeze out of his Archies. And, because we are so devoted to ensure David’s success (knowing full well that today’s record labels are so bottom-line-obsessed that they’d easily pass up David’s massive talent if he doesn’t bring in the kind of money they’re expecting) we would buy anything just to support him.
Anyway, I’m not griping (fortunately, I immediately went to my itunes library and found the pre-ordered tracks there so I didn’t make any multiple purchases), but I am going to raise eyebrows and seriously question why all the bonus tracks -- every single one of them (“Waiting for Yesterday” “Falling” “Let Go” “Somebody Out There” “Works for Me!”) -- are superior in production compared to what’s on the standard CD, the one that most people outside the Archies fanbase, including the typical music reviewer, will be listening to. I believe the bonus tracks would have told a different story than what’s on the standard CD, and I’m distrustful of Jive’s motives in suppressing the kind of work that perhaps best defines what David is about musically. And, yes, I resent that they’ve created this complex web of gimmicks to get his fans to jump through hoops just to hear his bonus material.
It’s absolute nonsense, when you think about it. There’s no reason why his regular album couldn’t have had up to 17 tracks. Seriously!
Hello Gorgeous -- your last two paragraphs of #15 -- you nailed it. I agree wholeheartedly and it is just utterly ridiuculous that these are the bonus songs when they are clearly the best of the lot. Even “Waiting for Yesterday,” while certainly poppy, feels fresher and more authentic to me than some of the album tracks. “Let Me Go” packs a punch and listen to the lyrics -- is the song about AI/19? Seriously, did they think no one would stick with David if he didn’t go for the “tweens”? come on now….
On another note, I hate Wal-Mart so much, I haven’t caved to buy this version….yet…..
…”there’s this infuriating business of bonus tracks, extra cuts, special releases, deluxe editions and retail channel exclusives. I’ve purchased the dang album twice already and I still don’t have all the songs.”
You wll have all the songs, soon enough. You are resourceful, among other things.
Unfortunately, special business arrangements are a necessary evil. I personally don’t believe that Jive, by design, is embarking on a slippery or slimy slope. It is imperative for Jive to provide their product in varying formats (on-line and hard copy-my preference) to meet their customers’ demands. As far as unraveling the mysteries of differing business arrangements -- to paraphrase Obama “it’s above my pay grade”.
Any technical difficulties with i-tunes would seem to be outside of Jive’s control. I am hoping that for those encountering such difficulties, i-tunes will resolve them fairly and equitably.
Oh…speaking of overwrought and violins, on the “lighter-side” here’s an observation:
The origin of this action [“air” violin] started with the song “Hearts and Flowers” published in 1899. The violin version came to represent in silent films any scenes that were melodramatic, sentimental or mock-tragic. Pretending to play the violin (and humming the tune if you know it) when someone is complaining about something means you are playing “Hearts and Flowers” for their melodramatic scene or problem like was done in the silent movies.
Memo to Jive: Cue the violins.
Okay…just kidding. I know, I know…back to the ether without a wink or a nod (but not without my DA CD!!!).
Hey rascal! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! I too was hoping that David’s first CD would be filled with the awe-inspiring ballads and emotive musical pieces that we all came to expect from one so obviously gifted beyond his years. I guess I am just so desperate for any offering from the music industry that dares to go beyond the banal and mediocre that I drank in all of the music offered by David with pure abandon. I don’t want to present myself as someone so empty-headed that I give a rubber stamp of approval to everything David does; in fact, there are a couple of songs that I may just have to skip over on my next listen through. Rascal, I do respect your opinion very much. I’ve visited this site many times and deliberated for a while before I decided to join up. You bring intelligent insight into a business about which I know very little. I would not want you to compromise who you are in order to please all of us who love David so much. He does deserve much scrutiny because he is so capable of greatness. I think we just need to be patient and wait for the day when David is allowed to have more creative control. And what a great day that will be!!!
hello gorgeous -- in another thread I posted a theory I have about the song selection -- it is a bit cynical but do you think they went with the “cheaper” version by using multiple songs from production teams? It would certainly be more cost-effective that way..or maybe they are fulfilling contracts or doing favors for these industry regulars..anyway the songs done by the same teams are..
CRUSH, MY HANDS, and TO BE WITH YOU
TOUCH MY HAND and BARRIERS
YOU CAN and YOUR EYES DON’T LIE
What do you think?
It would explain why “You Can” made the cut and not “Works for Me” or”Somebody Out There” -- I mean, all three songs have a similar vibe, so why not use one of Davids orginals? I think the answer is: follow the money :[
Mushroom, your theory makes a lot of sense and I’m going to be studying the production teams more closely to see if there are any other patterns.
Well, I DID jump thru hoops and did everything in my power to be able to hear every song put out there ~ and I DID do some Christmas shopping besides covering all the bases ~ and I understand what everyone is saying ~ on both sides ~ but I would, at this point, follow David in whatever he decides to do. I’m so happy, too, that he has his Dad watching out for him. I trust him to look after David’s welfare, since it seems that all David wants to do is SING at ANY COST (as far as $$$ are concerned) ~ and that’s the real reason I jumped thru hoops today, to do my small part in helping him to take this “first step” and to make him “feel the love” today. The rest will come sooner or later (I hope sooner).
(SF, loved your post)
Thanks for the feedback HG! I posted it before and no one commented so I started thinking well maybe I’m just crazzzy! hehe
“Because not every artist deserves this depth of attention.” -- Rascal
This.
I am listening to “Somebody Out There” for the upteenth time. I just love this song. Until Rascal mentioned it, it had not clicked with me that *this* was the song that “disappeared” from iTunes. That really sucks, in plain words, as it’s a beautiful song and arguably one of David’s best vocals. Because many fans won’t hear this song, I hope other fans get the word out about this song.
OK. Rascal, I think your post is a good and thoughtful post and a good discussion topic. At the same time I can’t help but tease you in that upon first read I had a vision of you stomping your feet and saying “I want my tracks! NOW!” LOL!
And I think David knows he’s swimming among sharks. I am recalling one of the radio interviews recently where he talks about his Dad now being his co-manager and how he thought “it’s really important to have someone there who’s on your side. Because, you know, when everyone else is ‘How can we make money off of this person and drop you when we’ve worn you out”, with family they want what’s best for you and are not going to drop you….”
And as I posted in the previous thread….to my ears, he’s totally channelling Stevie Wonder in Works for You. haha!
er….Works for ME. oooops!
One more thing: imagine this scenario, and if Jive just had to stick to 12 tracks, what if we had on the standard CD:
1. Crush
2. Touch My Hand
3. Barriers
4. Works for Me*
5. Desperate
6. Waiting for Yesterday*
7. Falling*
8. Somebody Out There*
9. Let Go*
10. To Be With You
11. Running
12. Angels
I think this would have represented David just fine and would be a much more impressive debut. There certainly wouldn’t be too many reviews complaining about “generic” music. But that’s JMHO.
Rascal:
Terrific last two blogs. Agree with almost everything you wrote. At the same time I think Kizzi #2 hit the nail on the head though when she wrote,
“I have complete certainty that he will walk the path that beckons him, not because it is paved with gold, but because he knows in his heart and soul what road he will take.”
I loved your comment of the 9th, that,
“David does darkness extremely well. I happen to believe that one of the reasons his “uplifting” songs work as well as they do–”Angels,” “Imagine”–is because of an underlying melancholy, symbolized by that cry in his voice; the feeling that in grace lies an awareness of suffering.” This is precisely the core of his attraction for me, “that underlying melancholy …… an awareness of suffering.” Beautifully said.
He was criticized during AI because of his preference for ‘message songs,’ a farcical comment because all songs are messages of some sort, else why bother? The real criticism was that his choice of material told that the world is filled with injustice, sorrow, and suffering., and HE CARES! That was his crime according to his AI critics, the fact that he drew attention to that suffering, and with that, implied a criticism of the brutal, uncaring powers-that-be who create and/or tolerate such horrors (think Darfur, as an present example). The folks at AI want their show to be light and fluffy, the better to keep their vapid viewers, most of whom have the attention span of a gnat, coming back for more sweet nothings. How utterly refreshing to have seen one who wore his feelings, true and honorable feelings, on his chest, proudly and defiantly. He remains that person, I believe, no matter the immediate needs of his industrial malefactors.
After listening to the album a couple of times, this is my opinion of it.
Tracks 1-5: Bubblegum music for his core, tweener demographic.
Track 6: The artistry begins -- a seemingly autobiographical tune of incredible beauty and feeling. Poignancy to the point of pain. “If anyone can make me fall in love, you can.” “Show me that good things come to those who wait……” The palpable heartache. Incredible.
Track 7: Autobio, sort of, like 6, but up-tempo and no where as deep.
Track 8: Wild, energetic with a purpose. Hints of Deprech Mode.
Track 9: Carley Simon in feeling. Pretty.
Track 10: Kitschy. I don’t know why I like it.
Track 11: The great surprise of this album. Certain to be played in clubs. Powerful R&B beat, with country undertones. Michael Jackson and BB King, all the way. Fantastic!
Track 12: Great sound, but could have been better if post-bridge the producers reprised the introduction’s tonalities.
Target is selling the album as a promo for $9 and change. WalMart wanted $4 more for their bonus track. Bonus track game playing.
Juliebug, he’s channeling Stevie on Works for Me, Your Eyes Don’t Lie, Running, etc. Yep, I hear the echoes! ha ha!
juliebug — Are you calling me petulant? Okay, I won’t lie to you, there may have been a bit of foot stomping. Mamma Josie might just tell you just how loudly.
But my frustrations about every aspect of this thing have been growing for weeks. It concerns me, frankly, when I see him looking so tired. There’s no cause for that (I mean, shit, the kid doesn’t even party).
Hello Gorgeous -- I like it! Although I think I have one change: I would swap out “Desperate” for “Your Eyes Don’t Lie”…..I just can’t get into “Desperate” and feel it has sooo many layers of techno beebops to it to render it completely un-archified. But that’s JMO 🙂 I can’t help it, I love YEDL even though it is totally quirky. I think that song could help him break onto urban radio (the next Robin Thicke?)
Here’s something interesting to think about -- since you can buy all the songs individually, I was curious to see what songs were connecting most to iTunes purchasers who are only buying a song or two rather than the album. Here are the songs in order of popularity, from most to least (of course, bonus not included, grrr):
1. Crush (includes all prior single sales)
2. A Little Too Not Over You (duh, Jive, duh!!!)
3. Touch My Hand
big gap, then the next are…
4.Barriers
5. To Be With You
6. Angels
7. My Hands
8. You Can
9. Desperate
10. Running
11. Your Eyes Don’t Lie
12. Don’t Let Go
I want David to be commercially successful enough to plot his own course, prodluce his own records or anything that he wants to do in the music (or any other business). The more mainstream and successful he is (or is considered to be) the faster he will reach that goal. I think that since his management company is separate from Jive, hopefully, they are looking to his future.
HG -- True. I just mentioned Works for Me ’cause that’s the one everyone is talking about. But you are correct, Stevie is in all his R&B flavored stuff. And Running isn’t getting as much love as the others around the boards. But I LURV it! Love that vibe. There’s some Motown in the boy’s soul and a little raggae for good measure. And with Somebody Out There….he could totally do Jazz if he was inclined.
Personally, I don’t want him to ever “decide” on one direction or the other. I want him to “experiment” for the remainder of his long, long career. I want him to crisscross genres at will and set them all on notice. haha!
I still remember when Aretha filled in for Pavarotti at the Grammy’s one year a decade or so ago. And sang Opera! haha! Freaked out the whole music industry. I want David to do that sorta thing on a regular basis. Please.
Ok, I just got my CD today. The wait has been LONG and PAINFUL, but oh so worth it.
Wow, I can officially admit to being an Archuletoholic. The craving for the Archuleta has never been so intense and can be only satisfied by following the 12-step recovery program:
01. Crush -- This is one crush that ain’t gonna go away. Impressive first-lead single.
02. Touch My Hand -- Pure Top 40 material; very hip, modern, and catchy. My second favourite of the entire album.
03. Barriers -- reminds me of one of Madonna’s songs on her Hard Candy CD, “Incredible”.
04. My Hands -- soulful?
05. A Little Too Not Over You -- decent effort; he co-wrote this one.
06. You Can -- a touch of country? Nicely done.
07. Running -- a filler.
08. Desperate -- first impression: curious; second impressive: haunting, especially when he calls out “desperate…”; third impression: love it!
09. To Be With You -- serious, mature, sensitive, intimate.
10. Don’t Let Go -- another penned by him; good beat, catchy.
11. Your Eyes Don’t Lie -- Gosh Dang It, this one has been on the repeat for hours so far today. The whistles remind me so much of that awesome movie Kill Bill, Part One. It’s a teasy, sexy, molten hot number with a bootilicious beat and catchy lyrics. This one will burn up the dance floor with an extended remix. If you want to die, imagine his eyes in your mind as you listen to this one. My hips don’t lie either as I move instinctively and uncontrollably to the beats. (haha) And his “mmm…” at the beginning: HEAVEN! Sexy, sexy song! I was captured from the start to finish. Chills, chills, chills, DA BOMB! Please, please, please TPTB: unleash this one onto the world as a single!
12. Angels -- This is the recovery song, contemplative, uplifting, and spiritual.
Overall, way better than I expected, especially since he didn’t have that much time to make this in the first place. I really like the modern, urban, hip sound. DA FTW!!!
LittleMushroom : interesting stats. Not sure what to make of it.
LittleMushroom, I like YEDL too, but I was making some cuts, and there were others I like better. I think YEDL, Barriers (esp. if a Timbaland version comes out, like he did with “Apologize”), Works for Me, and Running all have a shot at urban radio.
OK, Popwatch and EW are really bringing their David hate on. In the DA headlines, I come across this little blog post, making fun of David’s tween fans (I guess to cushion themselves from the blow that will most likely come when his album sales hit the roof?):
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/11/the-agony-of-de.html
They’re so transparent, it’s now getting tedious. On the flip side: those little girls are hilarious! Their remark about Cook’s win: “How did that loser win? He doesn’t even shave!”
BWAHAHAHA!!!!!
I know you were serious Rascal, and rightly so…but there was a tipping point, and I saw it coming from a couple of your posts in the earlier thread. I was just pointing that out because I’m evil. hahaha! Luv ya.
rascal, I echo your concerns about the crazy promotion schedule. I have no idea if this is normal or not, but 3 cities in one day for radio promotions, endless radio and now TV appearances, with NO down time just seems like too much. What was it… he’s had something like 16 days home since February. It really is crazy.
Somebody Out There is sooooo beautiful, simple and heart-rending. My way of coping with the “disappearing” nonsense is to send a mp3 file of the song to family members and friends who don’t really know his music, to encourage them to buy the CD.
rascal -- I hope you get all your songs soon. Have hope, it will happen!
i don’t know if anyone has mentioned this, BUT did anyone hear what David SAID on TRL today about the songs he wrote when asked if the inspiration came from “personal experience”? David said that on this album the inspiration was from HIS OWN PERSONAL experiences…hmmmm? Very interesting!! I’ll have to go back and review the songs he had a hand in writing. We already know about FALLING. I have a feeling David is gonna be ready to go to the next phase in his Book of LIfe sooner than later..perhaps finding or going after a certain someone he may already have eyes for. He’s given hints here & there, but we haven’t really listened.
hmmmm? ( sorry to go off topic.my mind wanders sometimes )
I did notice the baggy eyelids on the Today Show. David’s being a really good sport about the whole thing, but I do wonder about his down time.
Rascal and Liz -- I know he’s 17 and resilient…but the bags under his eyes are not going away. Actually, I’m not sure how long its been since they haven’t been so obvious. I don’t see any serious rest in his future until maybe around Christmas time?
random remark--> rascal, love the artwork, btw
david is never totally ready to sing in the AM.
Goodnight Everyone,
I would like to echo what Collegemom posted. Regardless of what happens -- I want David to acquire the fanbase as well as the money to really indulge in and unleash his creative side.
Unfortunately, this is the price he has to pay for right now. That being said, I was smiling from ear to ear when I popped David’s cd in my car player. I’m just happy to do my part for his ultimate success. I have never gone through so many hoops to obtain material from any of my previous favorite artists before -- so to do this for David is very telling.
I’m also in agreement with Rascal with regard to David’s schedule. While selfishly enjoying every moment of media exposure, it sure was painful to watch all the Fox interviews from yesterday. David was barely coherent and he looked sooo tired.
Despite all these negatives, I plan to take enjoyment from the fact that I currently possess new, post-idol material to feast on 24/7 until David steps foot into a recording studio for another go-round. I will reflect on the gift we have been given -- with one fully functioning vocal cord no less, and pray for his continued vocal health. I simply LOVE David to bits.
The hotness! The hotness! Check out these pix from TRL:
http://www.david-hq.org/photos/thumbnails.php?album=318
Anyone see this photo posted at FOD…see, how can we keep a clear head when David looks like this??
http://fansofdavid.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/picture-211.png
SF, the link says “forbidden” so I went over to FOD and…
THUD!
Silver -- I don’t think you can link directly to the pics on FOD. You have to link to the page they are on. Good picture! o-0
sf…. that link is “forbidden” pour moi. 🙁
hg, I already downloaded those babies. :p
HG#46, The hotness indeed!!! I really am trying not to think of David in “that way”, but DANG IT!!!!! I’m only human!!!!
hi all! I have been lurking on and off for a couple of hours, too busy to post my thoughts.
SF- your new avi may be the best yet and is one of my new favorite photos. He looks like an old time movie star- what a face!! It’s really remarkable when so much beauty (inside, outside etc.) is present in one human being. What a pleasure for us all!
just returned from kid activity carting. As I stopped into Walmart for my second-copy-of-identical-songs plus one I had to laugh at myself. Cold and dark, into the Walmart to buy songs I already own. But I knew no one would ever type to me again if I didn’t buy a physical CD. And I was happy to contribute in a small way to David’s success. I also knew that at $9.97 the single song was costing me the same as the pastrami on rye I bought for lunch today- and that pleasure is already over.
Anyway, rewarded for my loyalty I was!! (a little Yoda-speak) I LOVE the bonus track song!!! Worth every bit!!!
brb
I echo the prevailing opinion that the bonus tracks are better than some of the regular tracks, but loving it all.
I love the bonus track, because it is very “David”, and what I was feeling “lack-of” in the standard version. In certain extent, I guess it’s the reason why they have been cut, to rip David’s AI image up. Of course, to hard-core friends, it’s ridiculous; however, to non-fans, it might be a good chances to know David again.
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I must say I am a positive thinking person… but if that makes me feel better, why not?
David’s schedule is pretty crazy, I agreed. However, it’s a correct action, if I assume Jive would like to push him to be a “super star” (as least to be acknowledged as a new artist, before the new AI season started), which hard-cores think not necessarily to be (a super star).
As I said long before, I prefer David could do whatever he wants to a mega-hit singer. However, it seems it’s his fate to be huge… I will do whatever Jive expects, provided that they let David has his freedom on music.
FORBIDDEN?? I kinda thought you all would get that message..WE ALREADY KNOW DAVID IS …shhhhhh…{{{forbidden}}} TO US..shhhhhh!
Hi good morning friends, and Rascal, great article as usual, understand what you said.
Had been listening to David’s CD for the umpteenth time since I got hold of it yesterday afternoon, with his poster looking at me. What a bliss!
I am not a music connoisseur, but I venture to say that I am very happy with David’s first album. I am not crazy with ALL the songs in there but I love the way David sang and handled them. As Randy often said, David can sing a phone book. “Running” and “Don’t Let Go” have yet to rub on to me. I have yet to get the “bonus” tracks – It is hard to keep up with all these chasing around.
While listening to David and have him looking at me from his poster this morning, I decided to do a google search, to get the latest news, and there I stumbled upon a latest EW article, and it spoiled my morning. There they go again!
Remember to Vote on VH1 for CRUSH!!
David will be on Regis & Kelly tomorrow!! No rest for the weary!!
gotta sign off now..g’nite all!..and to night I want to add The Prayer for David more so because of this thread..hope you don’t mind rascal…
Dear Lord, We are unworthy to ask, but we are asking anyway, please Take Care Of Our Earth Angel, David.
Watch over him, protect him from all harm.
Cloak him with your love and give him the strength to endure all that’s thrown in his path. Give him the courage and guidance to SAY NO to those who ask for more than he can reasonably give. Surround him with loving and supportive people who love him as we, his ARCHANGELS do. Seperate him from those who have agendas other than for his well being. Give him rest when he needs it and stamina when he feels fatigue.
Give him assurance when he feels doubt. Give him joy when he feels sad. Cloak him always in your protective
arms. Keep him healthy and strong so that he can continue to fulfill the Destiny that was written in his Book of Life before he was born.
This we, though unworthy, humbly pray. Amen.
Sweet dreams David, be safe & secure in our love always! CONTIGO SIEMPRE CON AMOR! Take care.
SF56- amen. YOU are beautiful. 🙂
silverfox -- thanks again for the prayer for David. I hope you enjoyed your Archuholiday!! Sweet dreams!
Just listened to the bonus songs at the mossipblog.com
Very nice work. Wonderfully autobiographical in feeling. Excellent counterpoint to the album because the songs are not overproduced. David’s beautiful voice comes through clear and pure. This is the kind of material that David does so exceedingly well.
“Because not every artist deserves this depth of attention.”
Amen.
Just taking a peek, guys… more deadlines to beat -- hah! Last week I was partying blogging here & there, with all the time in my hands with the forced bed rest — so now it’s make up time 🙂
A STORY: On my way home last night, euphoric over getting the iTunes downloads, I stopped by a mall to pick more xmas home decors. So I just tested & went into the music store to check when they will have The Archuleta. They were already closing… the sweet sales lady said “O mam you’re lucky we still have a couple -- they are sure disappearing fast! OMGoshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
I managed to cover my mouth but not before a yelp escaped so you can just imagine everyone there chuckling with my reaction!
So like a kid with his much sought after xmas gift, I hurriedly walked to my car BUT, I had the CD out of my bag, displaying the cover for every person that crossed my way to see. And with their quizzical look, I answered even before they actually asked, “In Landmark -- hurry! Soon to go out of stock!” Haha!
RE the convoluted distribution scheme: My theory is that contracts may already been drawn up for certain writers/producers for this album. LittleMush you may something there at post#19. Economies of scale.
However, I think the inclusion of bonus tracks was a product of David & company insistence to put more meat in this debut offering and therefore not part of Jive’s original plan. Having said that, I still cannot rationalize why there has to be a WalMart version and a DeLuxe version & one song disappearing after some time, etc… that’s where the frustration mounts I think.
But you know what? Setting aside all the pain (I hear/t you RASCAL!), the bonus tracks = of things to come.
Meanwhile, we should let Jive/19R hear the heart of the matter and unequivocally trumpet what interests us buying public for David!
With that, I have to go back to work. CYL
rascal
I just read and re-read your article. I am in an Archiehaze from staying up late last night listening and spazzing, and my head is full of new David songs, so it’s a bit hard to focus on anything else. However, your words ring true. There is this dichotomy between the top 40s market machine and the David we love. I want the world to change to accommodate David, not the other way around. I want David to find his voice and his place in the world on his own terms, and not be squeezed into some market niche. I want David to be allowed to be himself and develop as an artist from his own heart. I want that part of David to shine that connects our hearts, and surrounds us with love and bliss.
“Surround him with loving and supportive people who love him as we, his ARCHANGELS do. Separate him from those who have agendas other than for his well being.” AMEN.
Sorry some of you had trouble with itunes, but that might say a little too much about how often you download from itunes.
As far as getting all the songs you only needed to pre-order from itunes and get a cd from Walmart. Yes, Walmart sticker price in store reads $13.99, but at checkout it rang up $9.99.
Also, you could have pre-ordered from itunes and downloaded the Walmart single for free; the outrage felt for Jive would have over ridden the illegality of the download, but for $12.99 you would have all the tracks.
However, I am glad JIve did what it did to satisfy the different stores, and to give some fanatic fans a reason to buy a physical cd. The money investment by Jive must be astronomical, and I have no idea how David’s family is supporting themselves without any income.
aawww! I just missed SF too bad!
ANOTHER STORY: My office mates are all Cookies. I gave them CDs of Cookies’ snippets & SNL appearances and DA’s album MOD version. What can I say… they will all be buying DA’s CD and are re-thinking doing so with Cook’s.
aww jr4da ~ we think alike ~avi~ you beat me… i will change mine~~~ sweet dreams~~
hi djb- we’ve been missing each other. What fun we had today!
good night all. Thanks for the fun.
SF #56, What a sweet prayer for our David!!! Thank you for sharing it, and I will be sure to include it among my prayers tonight! Sweet dreams!!!
Nothing new to add to this discussion, but to say thank you to all of you. All these posts have been wonderful to read and have echoed some of my frustrations at jumpig through the various hoops to get all of David’s music. In fact, I missed one. Computer issues disabled me on downloading on I-Tunes. So I missed the I-Tunes exclusive. 🙁 . Though I am going to buy the deluxe album on Amazon.
And alot of these posts have rejuvenated and enlightened me on the course that we all hope David takes with his music and his life.
Hello Gorgeous- I just read your review about the album- I loved it. Like I stated on your blog, you, Rascal and so mnay others here are so wonderful at saying things that I feel in my heart.
JackRyan #60 & 63- Way to go! All of us Arch Angels converting the world one CD at a time. 😉
Here is a video of David signing his CDs at the Virgin Megastore. I wish the camera person would have panned the crowd. I want to know how many people were there.
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Echoing Silverfox -- Don’t forget to vote 😀
http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/top_20_countdown/vote.jhtml
Gosh, what happened, there’s a bunch of grumpy people here tonight! Aside from the pact with the Walmart devil (which not even David can make me secumb to), I don’t have a problem buying a couple of versions from different sources, because in the long run, the convoluted marketing gimcracks *are* making more $$ for David.
Actually, I think it’s a fairly clever way for Jive to test the waters with the DA-penned tracks. He *is* a new artist, and this is big business, so it’s no surprise that Jive would do what they think they must to stay solvent, at the very least. I don’t understand the music business well, especially these days, but I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t have David’s music in our hands if it weren’t for a label that manages to stay in business. I don’t blame them for going with the big-gun writers, for this freshman effort. In fact, seems to me it’s quite a feather in David’s adorable stocking cap, to have worked with material from the heavyweights. While some parts are better than others, about the only thing I really can’t stand on this CD is that dang whistling on YEDL.
I enjoyed mailing off my letter to David on this historic day, c/o Azoff, congratulating him, thanking him for all his hard work, and telling him that the tracks *he* wrote (or co-wrote) were my favorites. ***I hope they read his mail ! ! ***
SF -- Amen! Beautiful prayer.
Ooh, sorry to hear about download frustrations--been there, done that! No fun.
You *can* resolve problems with iTunes downloads by going to “Help” and then “Provide iTunes Feedback”, and send a message to them. They will respond, although they didn’t understand what I was saying at first. It took some email back-and-forth, but I did get my account credited for defective downloads.
I have become paranoid with iTunes download after my experience with “CRUSH”; being a fan outside the US. Eventually I had to donate and get gifted. Now with five “bonus, deluxe, etc, etc” songs I don’t know how I am going to handle.
So I went to YouTube to listen to “Let Me Go, It Works For Me, Somebody Out There, Falling, Waiting for Yesterday”. Gosh, these songs are really really amazing and David’s voice is so clear and pure without those overpowering instruments and background “annoying noises”. I was so infuriated I broke down and cried! Instead of selling them under “extra” as downloads, why can’t they just add these on to the main CD and charge? I have bought many hard copies as gifts to friends who appreciate David’s music but not in the habbit of buying CDs and I want them to have the best of David’s. I can’t gift them the iTunes downloads because some are not computer savvy. So frustrating!
I can easily download illegally these five songs (to save the trouble) but being a diehard DA fans I will not do it. I will check it out with TeamArchie Gifting Campaign.
Graaaahhh!
Good morning all! Yes, I’ve recovered from my fainting spell last night. 🙂
Anyone know David’s full schedule today (apart from being on Regis and Kelly, which I believe is today)?
davidfanLIZ -- #61 -- Yes, that’s my point, which some others here seem to be missing (it’s not about problems with iTunes, people, although that doesn’t help). I have nothing inherently against the almighty American dollar or gimmicky marketing tactics (I’m in advertising for Pete’s sake), but I cannot for the life of me imagine David treating his fans or his public this way on his own, no matter how business savvy he becomes. David is a straight-up kinda guy, with enormous respect and appreciation for his fans. Naturally, folks with the level of devotion they have for him don’t mind purchasing the album multiple times, but that doesn’t make it right. And I’d venture to say that David would be appalled at the idea. It just doesn’t reflect who we know him to be. But it’s even more than that. It is, as davidfanLIZ observes, the fact that Jive has failed in every way to extract and highlight what makes David unique — not only in the production of the music but in the marketing, too. They just didn’t do anything that wasn’t right out of Teen Pop Star Marketing for Dummies. This is of course the problem when the overarching criteria for everything is speed. You simply cannot be truly creative and thoughtful when velocity is your main priority. You have to do what you know, what’s been done a hundred times before. The incongruency is that David, more than so many others, has not been done a hundred times before. Unfortunately, if you don’t know that already, you won’t get it from Jive.
Speaking of trouble with iTunes…I see I was not the only one that had trouble…and trouble I did!! I pre-ordered the cd and proceeded yesterday to download the rest of the songs. Itunes said the songs were downloaded, but when I tried to burn them to a cd…IT DIDN’T WORK! Imagine my frustration when that didn’t work on the much anticipated D-day, as I called it. At first the songs would not even play and then later in the day they did. But, I still could not copy to a cd. I thought it was my cd burner, but I was able to burn other songs previously put on my media player…so I knew at least it was not my computer. ITunes was showing that the cds were burning, but there was NO sound and NO music on the cds when the burning process was done. I tried it over and over and over. I even sent an email to ITunes requesting their help with this. I was going to be charged for the album, of course, and did not have the tracks. Finally, at about 1:00 a.m. I got the album to burn on a cd…WOOT WOOT!! I have bought many songs from ITunes before and never had this trouble. I tried to buy the without the bonus tracks, and there was a message that told me I could not purchase that item as it was being modified. So there were probably some people who did try to buy yesterday and could not. I was going to Wal-Mart to get the cd there also for the extra bonus track and that would have been fine…but then I would have missed the bonus tracks ITunes offered…what a joke Rascal! I so agree with you on so many things. Jive has people running around like a chicken with its head cut off!!! I would have thought I would have never done this for anyone…until DAVID!!! This is the impact he has had on so many people. As far as the bonus tracks…I think they ARE better than some of the songs on the album. I was chatting last night on FOD and heard a song that caught my attention. I thought ….who is that? That cannot be David singing this song. It was the song “Let Me Go”. I thought…WOW…this is a fun, fast, and edgy song for David. I was dancing in my chair ha ha. Although, my favoite song is “Falling”, which soothes my soul in just hearing his voice. The Let Me Go song would be a HUGE draw for the teenagers. The only song my sons have even said they liked was “Desperate”…because it is fast, and is different from what they have heard him sing. They do not like any of his other music. That is the way most teenagers are. Nevermind a great message in a song…they normally want the fast music and generic lyrics. I have to say I think as far as the younger crowd goes…they would love “Let Me Go”. Jive should have put that song out as his next single if they are targeting the younger crowd. There are only 2 songs that I really do not care for…and it’s not due to the singer…cause he is amazing! As long as David is singing anything I will be listening. I just do not think the music and lyrics are that good. I do believe Jive could have done better, considering they actually have someone who can sing this go around ha ha. They also was on a time limit soooo….I will take what I can get.
Listen to the lyrics on Works for Me and Let Me Go…I hear a message to AI execs…LOL! Let Me Go packs a punch!!
Oh my heck!! Yesterday they were only offering the standard album on itunes…now they have the Deluxe album listed…maybe since so many people had trouble downloading they decided to put all the tracks back on for people to purchase. Bonus tracks didn’t go awayayayayayayayay!!
Inspired by David -- The two different versions (ugh) of the album on iTunes have always been available. The track that was available exclusively with a pre-order is “Somebody Out There,” which is now unavailable for purchase anywhere. Am I the only one for whom this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever?
rascal -- I am utterly incensed that “Somebody Out There” is not available. I can’t believe it and have a smoldering sense of injustice. This song is David, his voice, his interpretation is beautiful.
To reiterate what has been said, the album is for tweens/teens, not us! I would love to see the purchasing demographics Jive is looking at. Has to be 10-15 year olds over all, i think?
I prefer “Somebody Out There” to “You Can” and I would probably prefer “To Be With You” of all three if not for the female vocalist who is disguised as a back up singer yet it seems more to me like a pseudo-duet (very distracting).
rascal, “Somewhere Out There” is one of the best tracks, and it is incredible that it is now unavailable for purchase anywhere.
Oops, of course I meant “Somebody Out There,”
Rascal#73, I completely agree and knew this was your main point. My issue about the way Jive is handling him -- music-wise and promotion-wise -- is that I don’t get the sense that they really “get” him, you know? I understand when reviewers don’t see David past “teen pop,” but I certainly don’t see any signs that Jive is able to look beyond that either. And by “teen pop,” at least from a Jive label perspective, that’s not necessarily about seeing him as another Jonas Brother or Zac Efron (or whatever his name is). I get the sense that they see him as Justin Timberlake, when Justin was at that age, who they plan on aging into a “future sex/love sounds” image when he’s in his 20s. I’m just getting that vibe from them, and that’s so contrary to what David’s about -- no matter how much he matures and changes with age.
It’s great they allowed for his bonus tracks to even be available, but I still say, considering these tracks sound most like David, they could have come to a happier compromise where these tracks were included on the standard CD rather than resort to these gimmicks. If I weren’t paying attention to blogs like these, I would have just bought a regular CD without knowledge of other bonuses.
They have an opportunity to market someone who’s so different, and they’re being lazy and trifling in their approaches. I’m actually thinking of that Wal-Mart marketing memo, which detailed pretty much who they think is his primary market -- teens and parents -- and how such a view fails to understand David’s musical potential.
Heck, just hearing that story of how they produced the album-version of “Angels” based on the AI studio version, rather than from the many different videos of his live performances on tour -- was someone not even assigned to attend some of these tour performances even? -- shows how they’re not thinking out the box at all. Not to mention the possibility that they are not scouting out his dozens and dozens of fan sites, where the different discussions could have revealed who David’s core fans are. It is not hard to figure out who loves David and why we do, if you did a basic internet search. It took them forever to update his myspace page, they still haven’t created an official Jive page for him, which indicates that they’re so behind the curve and haven’t figured out the core of who their artist is.
So far, I’m content with the standard CD, but I’m not too pleased I had to purchase an itunes deluxe version and a Wal-mart CD just to get a complete David album. I would only do this for David, but I’m peeved I had to do this at all.
Oh dear! I had no idea “Somebody Out There” is no longer available!
See! And this is why I will never ever denounce music piracy on the internet. Because of actions like this.
I mean, you try to be a good fan and a good citizen, and because of stupid gimmicks and confusing promos, people have to miss a good track?
I don’t know how to rip and make the song available on the internet. For anyone who knows how to do this and who has the song, I hope you will soon make it available for those who don’t have it.
Subvert the machine! *raises fist in the air.*
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youtube link to “Somebody Out There.” HQ version. There are multiple youtube vids for this song already.
Thanks, Kizzi! I figured people were already on top of this. Power to the Internet! Power to the People! 🙂
And, no, Rascal, I’m not comprehending why “Somebody Out There” would not be available, unless they wanted to have a benefit for why people should pre-order.
I actually pre-ordered for fear that none of the bonus tracks would be available.
David is on Regis and Kelly right now! He’s singing Crush!
i have been reading reviews. Those that give a positive review of the album, like different songs and pan songs other reviewers say is the best or highlights David’s artistry. In general, they GET that David is a vocal artist, a musician in the growth phase and beginning of his career and they appreciate David as a person.
Those that don’t like the album, tend to go into a personal diatribe on David’s personality…hmmm….don’t seem to have reviewed the album including bonus tracks, seemed steeped in misinformation from the AI days or were big supporters of other AI contestants during Season 7…and, again, similar to the positive reviewers, if they like a certain song, it is all over the board and pan songs other negative reviewers comment in the positive on.
One reviewer actually strongly criticized David saying David didn’t care about his mature fans because he failed to put songs he wrote or co-wrote himself on the album; he goes on to say that the writing of all songs was mediocre (didn’t read the song writer list on the album, did he). He then goes on to say how David’s innocence and sincerity were at odds with 98% of the music industry--I actually think this reviewer was very conflicted in what he wrote and if he had but researched the events and information out there about the album prior to its release, he would have written an accurate review. Oh, and the song he picked out of the 12-tracks was “Your Eyes Don’t Lie” which many reviewers have panned.
HG -- Just saw David on Regis. He did a good job w/Crush. The band and he are getting more in sync and the loudness in past performance in spots has disappeared.
Would any of the singers who post here lend any credence to “morning voice” for singers?
I liked his coat and scarf ensemble.
Good interview with Regis. Awkward question about how often he shaves but he handled it well, didn’t he!
Oi, the reviewers! *rolls eyes, except for Rascal’s and my own of course. ha ha.*
David was warmly decked out in a wool jacket and scarf (looking really dashing). Regis commented that he had the “best smile in the world,” to which David responded by beaming some more.
GAH! Who in their right mind could possibly hate this kid? He changed up “Crush” a bit, and he’s really learning to use his eyes sensually when looking at the camera. Prince (the only other guy who can make love with his eyes through a camera like nobody’s business), WATCH OUT!
Dec. 28, hurry up, already! ha ha!
Kizzi, just now saw your post. Yeah, that “shaving” question (right after commenting on how “smooth his skin is”) is, uhm, interesting.
Methinks somebody has a crush! ha ha!
HG -- Yes, Regis seemed genuinely interested in David and whoever gave him his questions (or maybe he wrote the questions) knew something about David and his activities since May. What’s not to love!
I didn’t get much sleep last night and I layed down to wait for David’s appearance on Regis and Kelly. I dozed off right before he came on. I awoke to him singing the second verse of Crush. Even Regis noticed the smile and commented on his beautiful skin LOL! Regis had a fangirl moment too…tee hee! Go to sleep thinking about him and then wake up to seeing and hearing him…ahhhhh…so sweet LOL!
OK Archies, I need to get offline and head out for the day. It’s been a lovely morning seeing David (eyeing me through my tele and all). His eyelids don’t look so baggy today, so I hope he’s getting some shut-eye.
Until next time!
I am intrigued by the reviews and want to ferret out (as much as feasible) grains of truth across all reviews. Ultimately there is the “truth” and the “perceived truth” which rests with the individual music listener based on our beliefs, culture, assumptions, and preferences. So, I am trying to look at the “perceived truths” across the continuum for trends.
Since David says his album has songs from different music styles so he doesn’t pigeon-hole himself at his young age to one style, I find it fascinating that the negative reviewers do just that, pigeon-hole him. Tells me they haven’t done their homework and they don’t have the motivation to do it (either monetary or personal work ethic, or both) or they have a personal agenda in play.
The motivation and/or secondary agenda behind the negative review is fascinating to drill down on. The “why” of what a reviewer says is just as relevant as the “what”--in fact the “why” is the filter to understand the “what.”
And reviewers do have a certain power to sway opinion over a segment of the public. Thus why we love the positives and bristle at the negative reviews. I have yet to see a truly definitive review from the entertainment media reviewers.
I would speculate that tweens/teens are NOT reading the reviews in great numbers but some segment (who comprises that group and how large the group actually is, IDK) is reading the reviews. What impact that has will be interesting to trend.
As I have said previously, these speculations about who Jive is marketing too and why would be answered by the demographics they must have as to who buys music and all the marketed/purchased paraphernalia that goes with pop singers.
Kizzi #87, yes “morning voice” is for real. Ideally, your sinuses, chords the whole enchilada have to warm up before you “warm up.” Some pros refuse to sing before noon. So David is bound to sound different in the a.m. but I thought he did a great job. And I think the volume on the band has more to do with the studio sound people.
And Regis? Too cute. And here I thought Kelly was the one with ODD! 🙂
Everyone has to start somewhere however brilliant they are. David is no crawling and soon he will be able to stand on his own,and before you know it he will be walking…all this Jive bussiness and marketing hoop la..will be behind him and he will be able to take his own bull by the horns…we should all embrace him (as we are already doing) and contribute to his continued success in what ever way we can…those who can afford….buy from Itunes buy from WALMART TARGET VIRGIN MEGA where ever you can remember jive may have an agenda but David will ALSO be benifiting no matter how we view it.
Other questions I have pondered:
Is Jive “using” David? Have they dismissed his artistry and potential?” I believe they are executing to their agreement with him. I believe it is still too early to tell if they have dismissed his artistry. I believe, as previously pointed out, the speed to produce the album has out weighed other considerations.
Is David “using” Jive to achieve his dream of recording an album? I believe he entered into an agreement with Jive as he did with AI, reviewed by his advisers, and is fulfilling his agreement. Certainly there are gray areas that have to be negotiated over time as in any agreement.
Finally, just my perspective. When one chooses to take on a role that has tremendous responsibility as well as reward, real or potential, there is a certain amount of compromise and learning that takes place to get to the point that one understands the boundaries of those roles and responsibilities described in a business agreement and how to execute what they want to achieve, on both sides. I think David and his advisers are on this course right now. I believe it is too early to say that David isn’t standing up for what he wants and believes in. I would say that in the early go in these types of relationships with so much at risk on both sides, David is listening to whom he believes is giving him sage advice while upholding his agreement, whatever that may be--and, that has nothing to do with age--adults do the same thing when in such a pressured, high risk, high reward situation. He is on a straight up learning curve and I am continually astounded that he keeps his head and his balance through all this. However, I have complete certainty that over time, as David digests these early experiences, he will emerge with his integrity and artistry intact. He will be seen for who he is and his music will be as he determines, what ever that is. And if it is Pop then I am a Pop fan.
# 88 I love your comment..WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD’NT LOVE THIS GUY…HE LOOKED GREAT ON REGIS AND YES REGIS HE DOES HAVE THE BEST SMILE IN THE WORLD A GOD GIVEN GIFT….HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERY ONE
David on Regis and Kelly was so freakin’ great! Regis seemed like he might have just contracted a little ODD. ‘Greatest smile in the world’ and ”softest skin.’ He got all hypnotized/mesmerized by the Archuglow!
~avi ~check
If anyone can make me fall in love…YOU CAN
Take me sailing in your deepest eyes….
Bring me to my knees and make me cry……
……YOU CAN…………
On “Regis and Kelly,” David’s smile and singing were great, as usual. What stood out to me though was that (during the song) his eyes seemed so tired.
TOfan#94: I thought this was the best he sounded with his band yet. Just heard people talking about the impact of “morning voice.” Thanks for the information. Wish I could sing!
Baby when you look at me…Tell me what do you see. Are these the eyes of someone you could love…..
it is official..may FAV…..YOU CAN….slays me..everytime.
my ~avi~says it all……
happy~ hope to catch you later !!!
According to many articles all idol fans buy multiple copies of the debut cd’s.
Here is an excerpt from Idol Live predicting Cook will sell more than our David:
So after considering all of the above and the history surrounding album releases by Idol alums in the holiday season, look for big numbers for both. IDOL LIVE predicts David Archuleta will pull in 221k copies in its first week, landing at #2 on the Billboard 200, while David Cook will net 236k copies for a #3 debut on the Billboard 200.
That’s enough for me to go out and buy another copy. Holiday gifts.
Hi everyone, I know I don’t post here very often, mostly due to a lack of time. I enjoy reading everyone’s comments when I can. I’m one of those David fans that have been there from the beginning, as most of us here have, and I have tried very hard to be ojbective while having ODD -- no easy task! I have agreed and disagreed with Rascal on various points, but I always find that a healthy discussion about a topic can be fun, educational, and fulfilling.
Rascal, I understand some of your points in this thread, and I believe that your heart is in the right place when it comes to David -- you want him to be successful and you recognize his awesome talent. I just must tell you that seeing the picture at the top of this thread, on the day of his album release, really sickens me. Perhaps I have a poor sense of humor. I get what you are trying to say here, I really do, but I could do without that image of my sweet David being ground into money. It screams negativity to me, it just does. Even though I get it, I just don’t like it. I suppose you’ll tell me to not visit here if I don’t like what I see, and that’s fine if you feel that way. It’s your website, so you get to decide what to post, and we all do not have to like it. I just wonder what David would think if he saw that picture. I think he is proud of his CD and happy about where he is right now. I know I am.
funny girl 105…that sums it up for me you could’nt have said it better……..now a days for one to be able to produce the music you realy want as an budding artiste you have to be loaded from the start…..David is not that’s why he signed up with a label…we know what David’s capablities are that why we love him sooo much as I said in an earlier comment he’s crawling right now soon he will stand on his own and next thing you know he will be walking….
I haven’t seen a ton of comments about this so if someone else knows where there are threads about this please let me know …. is anyone else in pain watching David trying to perform Crush live? The first time I saw it on the Ford Day I thought that maybe it was just because it was the first time …. David is such a HUGE talent …. the song was a half decent first choice to pull in some new listeners. BBUUUUTTTT … it isn’t in his optimal register …. it isn’t why we all love him. It isn’t even a great “band” song given how overproduced it was in the studio. Put him in front of the cameras with a piano/keyboard or guitar and have him sing You Can/Somebody Out There/Falling/To Be With You and OMGosh!!! THOSE songs are why I will be buying a ticket to just about anywhere he goes on tour. (Not to mention Imagine/Angels/Crazy/etc. etc.) He even looks like he’s in pain when he’s singing Crush … he has to hear how bad it sounds. I’ve even noticed him stamping his foot … kind of to the beat but appears to be more frustration … he knows it sounds bad but doesn’t know how to fix it. He is a perfectionist and he can’t be happy with getting dragged through these performances and feeling like that is his one shot to reach someone who is watching these shows that may not have heard him before. Truly … if this was my only exposure to him I’d think the whole “hoopla” surrounding him was crazy. Does ANYONE have the ear of these record people that are dragging him down this path? Stop them … please. Let David be David …. the beautiful amazing soulful spirit that he is.
I’ve been watching, listening and reading since David’s auditions for AI. Yes, I have ODD, but I don’t express it very often. That’s my own hangup. Guys my age do ODD in silence. 🙂
David’s accomplishment is thrilling to me, and I am so proud of him. But I have to say that I consider most of the material on the album rather weak. Most of these songs, in my opinion, will not stand the test of time. All these melodic fragments make me yearn for that Archuleta highway with its line, contour, shape…
I think David will ultimately leave this kind of stuff behind out of sheer boredom. I can enjoy this album because of what he adds to the music, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to hear anybody else do these songs.
I haven’t listened enough yet. Maybe I need more time with the songs. Time spent with David’s singing is good for the soul--no matter what he’s singing.
The music industry is so annoying…